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Question

anyone make an adapter (usb to Western Digital "weird"SSD?

Mar 26, 2019 12:10PM PDT

I have cloned numerous SSD's using an adapter (usb to ssd) and cloning software. BUT I have hit a snag. Does anyone make an adapter (usb to Western Digital "weird" oblong SSD with strange contacts)? I need to clone a HD to a "WDC PC sn520 sdapnuw 512Gb SSD.

I know this is a strange request but I need to clone a smaller "weird" ssd to a larger one of the same strange type (512Gb).

Thanks for any replies.

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Answer
That's not weird at all.
Mar 26, 2019 12:15PM PDT

The last time I had to clone those I cheated (more than once now.) I cloned this drive from the internal to an external drive, then removed power, battery when I installed the new SSD then I booted up my clone software to clone from the external to the new internal SSD.

I'm encountering technicians that didn't think of that and instead buy another adapter which are now somewhat plentiful on Newegg and Amazon.

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what type of adapter can be used to clone my type of ssd?
Mar 28, 2019 4:48PM PDT

R. Proffitt: what type of adapter can I use to clone my type of ssd: most of the adapters I have looked at say they will not work with sata (at least the ssd's with 3 different sets of contacts on the end.
As I am sure that you figured out a long time ago, I am older and not too computer literate. I do certainly appreciate all your help. BUT please keep your answers as simple as possible (so maybe I can understand them.
Thanks again,

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I was unclear.
Mar 28, 2019 5:03PM PDT

I did NOT buy the adapter. I cloned from the internal to some USB 1TB that we have in the office.

The new internal drive was installed and then I cloned one more time from the external 1TB to the new internal SSD.

Why did I do this? 1TB USB HDDs are about the same price as adapters plus I would have to change my cloning routine which is to use an Apricom USB 3.0 clone kit. Why should I buy another adapter plus change how I clone?

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Clone
Mar 28, 2019 8:20PM PDT
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I've learned that in some systems
Mar 28, 2019 10:26PM PDT

It avoids other issues as the clone from internal to external and back to internal seems to side step some cloning issues other techs were having. Since my method works I did not investigate why. I have plenty to do already.

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confused
Mar 29, 2019 7:38AM PDT

"the clone from internal to external and back to internal seems to side step some cloning issues"

I already cloned a 512 SSD (before I realized the ssd in the computer was different physically). My question is how can I use my clone software will be on a usb port and I cannot boot the computer etc. Please explain in a little more detail.
Thanks,
glenn

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Sorry but I can't guess what needs more detail.
Mar 29, 2019 9:42AM PDT

I've written twice of the steps used. Maybe you were asking me why you can't boot from USB but the short answer is that Windows doesn't do that.

To finish your clone job since you did clone from internal to external you would install a new internal drive to that slot and clone it from external to internal.

I see that HP (from your other post) DID NOT DOCUMENT THE CARD SIZES SUPPORTED.

This means you would have to inspect the SSD card area to see if it allows the other sizes. Did you do that?

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Two questions
Mar 29, 2019 10:08AM PDT

First question is : can I change (temporarily) the computer to boot from the USB drive, shut the computer down, change the ssd in the computer and then boot from the clone I already made and then clone the new internal ssd?

Second question: would this ssd work for me: WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB PC SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, M.2 2280 - WDS500G2B0B
by Western Digital

Thanks.

sorry to be such a bother

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First.
Mar 29, 2019 10:41AM PDT

No. And I'm keeping this simple and not about to open the Pandora box about what it takes to get Windows running from USB.

Second, I can't tell for the reasons we covered in your other discussion where you reveal which HP and what M.2 you have.

YOU or a tech must check if your PC has the space and mounting for the longer 2280 card.

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Length
Mar 29, 2019 11:51AM PDT

My old ssd is a 2280.

SDAPNUW-128G-1022 SanDisk PC SN520 128GB m.2 2280 PCIe3.0x2 Internal Solid State Drive 783555213292.

My older hp (an elite 8300 workstation boots from USB if you plug in a windows containing drive. ??

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A few things.
Mar 29, 2019 11:58AM PDT

I was incorrect it seems to use the datasheet to find the size. This from my prior answer:
"First I'm reading https://www.sandisk.com/content/dam/sandisk-main/en_us/assets/resources/data-sheets/Western-Digital-PC-SN520-Commercial-Datasheet.pdf which tells us the 128GB model is the short M.2 2230 size SSD."

Since the old and new SSD are both 2380 in size, there is no issue here.

Just get your new 2280 SSD and finish the work as noted in your discussions.

As to Windows booting from USB, there is only one version of Windows that does that and I've never seen it supplied with a consumer class PC. I don't want to open that issue here and write that nope, no PC I know does boot its supplied Windows OS from USB unless we talk about the install systems, the rare Window To Go version and Linux.

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Thanks,
Mar 29, 2019 12:32PM PDT

I will keep you posted as I stumble along.....
Thanks
glenn

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Link to your other discussion.
Mar 29, 2019 10:46AM PDT
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Will this work to clone
Mar 29, 2019 7:18AM PDT

I already cloned a 512 SSD (before I realized the ssd in the computer was different physically). My question is how can I use my clone software will be on a usb port and I cannot boot the computer etc. Please explain in a little more detail.
Thanks,
glenn

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Clone
Mar 29, 2019 8:17AM PDT

Does your clone software run under windows?

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Yes, but
Mar 29, 2019 10:14AM PDT

Yes, the clone software runs under windows, but after I change the SSD in the computer, the software will be on the USB drive that I originally cloned by mistake. (thinking that ssd's were small square boxes). If I can boot from the USB I think I could make it work. Please see my response to Proffitt above.
Thanks

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Then you have 2 options
Mar 29, 2019 10:29AM PDT

Download this and put it on a disc or usb stick.
https://www.backup-utility.com/download-iso.html
Boot it up and clone the old ssd to the new ssd with the adapter I mentioned above.

Boot it up and clone the old ssd to some spare disk.
Install the new ssd.
Boot the clone util and clone from the spare disk to the new ssd.

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adapter....
Mar 29, 2019 11:58AM PDT

I am sorry, what adapter did you mention previously. I am (confused as usual).
Thanks,

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Adapter
Mar 29, 2019 1:17PM PDT

Newegg says they cannot ship that item to my location????
glenn

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Similar at Amazon.
Mar 29, 2019 1:41PM PDT
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Thanks
Mar 29, 2019 1:49PM PDT

I found the same item on ebay for same price. thanks.

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no recognition of drive
Apr 5, 2019 5:03PM PDT

I installed SSD in new adapter, but computer does not recognize it. Wrong type off adapter? I tried it in both old and new computer and no recognition.
Stumped!!
Help!!

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Ship to
Mar 29, 2019 1:46PM PDT

Then find it from some other merchant that can ship to your location.

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OK
Mar 29, 2019 1:50PM PDT

I found the same item on ebay for same price. thanks
same brand

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Now what
Mar 30, 2019 8:46AM PDT

I downloaded and purchased Poweriso, but now I have no idea how to put it on a usb stick or a disk. (Stick preferably). Need a couple of guidelines. No hurry though.
Thanks,
glenn

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You've gone down the road I didn't.
Mar 30, 2019 9:51AM PDT

At the office we do the two step clone because we don't feel like paying for the adapter you see above and we already have a clone kit and software. Here's the kit we use every few weeks it seems. https://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Notebook-Upgrade-Connection-ASW-USB3-25/dp/B005C983NA

We use it on desktops and laptops and in your case we would plug in some 1TB HDD to hold the temp clone copy. With that step done, the new M.2 drive is installed and we clone from external to internal.

About poweriso, reading http://poweriso.com/tutorials/ I don't see how that would be used on this clone job.

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New problem slowed me down...
Apr 5, 2019 12:07PM PDT

Last Saturday night, my new computer crashed. Would not boot. Screen finally told me I needed to install an OS to my C drive. Neither I and a HP tech (half way around the world) have any idea why. We tried to save my files on the drive but could not. The tech made a recovery drive using my OS from the old computer and we finally got the computer back up at 2am (my time; it was noon wherever he was).
Anyway I do have the backupper and whatever back on new computer. I received the 500Gb drive and today I received the "device" from ebay.
Just wanted y'all to know what is going on.
glenn

I have been busy just trying to catch up.

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Poweriso
Mar 30, 2019 11:10AM PDT

What are you going to use that for?

If I understand the pieces correct.
You cloned the internal to a 2.5 inch ssd.
Then you found out you needed a m.2 ssd.
You bought a 500GB m.2 ssd but if you install it you have no way to run your clone as it runs under windows.

That's where the clone util I linked to comes in....it's free.
Download it and put it on a disc or usb stick....the link tells you how to do that.
Install the new m.2 ssd.
Connect the 2.5 ssd.
Boot from the disc or usb stick you made and clone from the 2.5 ssd to the new m.2 ssd.

No need for poweriso or an adapter for the m.2 ssd.

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Power iso was one of my mistakes.....
Apr 5, 2019 12:09PM PDT

Last Saturday night, my new computer crashed. Would not boot. Screen finally told me I needed to install an OS to my C drive. Neither I and a HP tech (half way around the world) have any idea why. We tried to save my files on the drive but could not. The tech made a recovery drive using my OS from the old computer and we finally got the computer back up at 2am (my time; it was noon wherever he was).
Anyway I do have the backupper and whatever back on new computer. I received the 500Gb drive and today I received the "device" from ebay.
Just wanted y'all to know what is going on.
glenn

I have been busy just trying to catch up.