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Anyone here willing to defend HClinton's actions?

Mar 30, 2016 12:36PM PDT

On anything starting with when she began as an attorney and fast forward to today............

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Oh...give her a break
Mar 30, 2016 1:27PM PDT

She's screaming herself hoarse telling us how she's going to unite the country while blaming the Republicans for all the evils in the world. Is there a better way to show the desire for unity than to loudly bash roughly half the population of voters? She's still driving on her learner's permit so she's bound to miss a turn signal here and there. Besides, if it's right to say nothing if you've got no good to say, isn't it proper to do nothing if you've no idea what to do?

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starting at Whitewater?
Mar 30, 2016 3:54PM PDT

Or jump ahead to the Whitehouse files scandal with Livingston? Or jump forward to her relationship with Vince Foster and his untimely and unusual death circumstances? Or all the bimbo problems she's helped cover up for her husband? Or all the women she's disappointed by covering up for Bill? There's so many places one could start to try and cover for her.

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Her faults are indefensible
Mar 30, 2016 5:38PM PDT

You would replace her with a male (Trump)version?

You couldn't defend Trump so you divert and deflect?

We're more alike than you want to admit?

4 more years of complaints?...and then another 4 more years of complaints?

If you can't work with them....work around them.

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If her faults are indefensible as you say,
Mar 30, 2016 6:52PM PDT

does that mean you would vote for Sanders if you could? He's the only other option for a liberal like yourself.....or are you a Socialist? It's getting harder and harder to tell the difference between a Dem and a Socialist, if there even IS a difference anymore.

It's actually kind of refreshing to see you admit, though, that HC can't be defended even by you.

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RE: It's actually kind of refreshing
Mar 31, 2016 4:40AM PDT

ENJOY...those moments don't occur very often.

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which one
Apr 1, 2016 12:17AM PDT

she does and says so many things wrong.. which one should i speak against..

but then there is something wrong with every contender.. can someone plz make a list of their pros and cons.. like a cheat sheet or something.. before the exam..

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(NT) Anyone here willing to defend Bush's actions?
Apr 2, 2016 10:51AM PDT
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Yes....which one(s) are most important to you?
Apr 2, 2016 11:39AM PDT

Considering that he's not running for office again though, I suspect that most of your complaints have already been hashed over repeatedly and don't matter much anymore. Obviously, you aren't interested in trying or are unable to defend the Dem 'front runner' so it's easier to change the subject completely, which is a typical liberal maneuver.

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I just remember, when I was on unemployment in 2002 and
Apr 2, 2016 1:07PM PDT

couldn't find a job, she presented a bill to extend unemployment another 13 weeks and it was shot down. Could have used that.

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I don't remember you complaining
Apr 2, 2016 2:50PM PDT

when BO stopped the COLA in 2010, 2011, and again in 2016 (2016 was the same year that he gave previous president's a raise in their retirement benefits, which will include him, and again this budget he's presenting/presented will increase that amount by an additional 16%), so if that 13 weeks is all you got for the complaint list, Bush did better than BO all around. Also noted that HC is getting a pass from you.........

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He didn't stop the COLA anymore than he could
Apr 3, 2016 11:34AM PDT

stop the Congress critter's raises.

The problem is that the COLA is based on a working person's expenses instead of a retired person's expenses. He is trying to get that changed but Congress says we can't afford it (we have unnecessary wars to pay for) and refuses. Sanders is trying to get at least a one-time shot of money but it won't change the baseline.

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Your argument/reasoning falls flat
Apr 4, 2016 1:38AM PDT

especially for the 2016 COLA halt when you consider that BO has bragged repeatedly that employment is UP causing more money put into the economy.....it's refreshing to see a liberal like yourself admit that it's all ******.. numbers and that prices have kept INCREASING for all necessary goods, including health insurance premiums, food, and energy for heat/cooling....all thanks to BO. If find it completely ironic that the ONLY years that the COLA was halted were ALL done during BO's terms (two while Congress was HELD by DEMS and one as Boehner walked away after passing the budget so Ryan didn't have to deal with (what a load of crap THAT was, since it included the BO raise to former presidents and wants another one now just in time for HIM to be gone).

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RE:.it's refreshing to see a liberal like
Apr 4, 2016 3:52AM PDT

.it's refreshing to see a liberal like yourself admit that it's all ******

I guess you can only see out...and not inwards (towards yourself)

If only we could get Conservatives to admit that it's all ******

In the meantime....ENJOY the refreshment.....2 refreshments? You're having a good year.

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Conservatives and Republicans
Apr 4, 2016 4:28AM PDT

HAVE been saying since 2010 that BO's policies are all *****....where have YOU been that you haven't noticed? Watch yourself, JP....your Alz is getting worse, I'm afraid.

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Yeah...Bush was delusional
Apr 3, 2016 2:01AM PDT

He thought the best thing we could do to end problems in the middle east was to sow the seeds of democracy there so they'd become more like us. He thought that if brutal dictatorships would end and people could choose their own leaders, the area would become more stable and would stop spawning or harboring dangerous terror organizations. He had it all wrong. What those people need is to be kept under the thumb of a powerful ruler who will gas them if they rebel. They need to fear losing their heads if they don't toe the line. Bush was wrong in thinking the world should be more like us and should lose their fear of being stoned or having their heads removed. If they could be more like us, the most they'd need to worry about is someone taking away their rights to sex without fear of pregnancy or having someone balk at making them a wedding cake. Bad boy, Mr. Bush. You should have known that focusing on global warming would have taken care of everything evil in the world.

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Absolutely right
Apr 3, 2016 11:41AM PDT

This country had a history of an aristocracy running the show rather than just a King or Queen and the Founding Fathers got rid of the aristocracy (although we still seem to have one). Even then they had problems bringing this country together and made a lot of compromises - like slavery and no votes for women and the electoral college to name a few and had a bloody civil war over slavery (don't care what the South says).

The Middle East is still made up of warring tribesmen that were cut up into countries by Europe with a strong man at the top. They have no history of democracy so they don't really know what to do with it.

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Did you really understand were I was going?
Apr 3, 2016 1:18PM PDT

You should have been jumping down my throat for making such a mockery of...you'll need to figure that out.

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you made too much sense
Apr 3, 2016 6:08PM PDT

they don't think like us.

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Point taken
Apr 4, 2016 3:46AM PDT

But still there needs to be someone to teach them democracy.. the meaning and the whole idea of it..

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You don't teach them democracy by
Apr 4, 2016 9:28AM PDT

firing all the soldiers and cops. Patton had it right. He put the German soldiers and cops to work protecting the German people.

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Was he?
Apr 4, 2016 3:55AM PDT

Should he have not though about the living conditions of the people living there.. should he not have tried to improve their living standard..

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they did a lot to try
Apr 4, 2016 7:42AM PDT

but it seems obvious they can only get along with each other under strongman govt unlike what we would approve of being involved in for today's world. There seems to be some breeds or races of people who must try and fit within a larger other group and live according to their manner, or if the majority group end up needing something different to live in peace, even if guarded peace, with each other. It's nice to think democracy would work for anyone, and maybe it would if 2-3 generations were slowly brought into it, but that's not our mission in the world.


Look in USA, where a 15% minority group (blacks) is responsible for 48-53% (based on past recent years) of ALL violent crime. About 90% of that violence is directed at other blacks. As a group they can never be satisified either. If stronger actions are taken in their neighborhoods they whine about police brutality, profiling, try to compare percentage wise to the lesser crime rate in white neighborhoods and then use that to complain about "discrimination". When that stronger force is backed off, you can see what happens like in Baltimore when it becomes a riot holiday for them. That's while also whining about needing a reduction of crime in their areas. They are their own problem and looking to blame it on others.

I didn't grab the figures from the air, they are all available from the FBI yearly reports on crime and demographics of it. Notice, none of what I mentioned above was involving drug arrests, just the violence.