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Any truck drivers here? Hold on to your hats....

by TONI H / December 7, 2006 5:49 AM PST

This is how ridiculous things have become....

Think about all the trucking contractors and companies with fleets of trucks, not just UPS or FedEX....think Pepsi, Coke, food distributors, liquor/beer runs, etc. Now think about how many of those contractors looking to cut back their overhead by eliminating high-wage union drivers will be able to use this to fire drivers rather than lay them off and have to pay unemployment benefits.

Most truckers exist on cigarettes and coffee....I know...I was married to one (Derek's dad), and not one of his fellow employees was a non-smoker (they hauled Coca-Cola products from one state to another).

Supposedly this law does not affect interstate truckers coming from OTHER states, so how do they expect to stop an Ohio trucker from lighting up once they cross the state line into PA for instance? How will Smokie know which truck drivers are from Ohio and which are from another state when they cross into Ohio??? From the side of the cab or front plates because most times, the trailer is from some other state.

If that's not enough....since so many people in Cleveland have now quit smoking or are buying loose tobacco and papers and rolling their own in order to cut down on the cost, the taxes collected on those non-existent cigarettes has been slashed considerably, even though the original increases were to pay for two new stadiums and a convention center in downtown Cleveland, which those paying the most for weren't allowed to smoke in.....Now they have passed a state law in order to increase the tax revenue again wherein there is a tax imposed PER SHOT and PER BOTTLE OF BEER or WINE that you purchase in either a liquor store, a grocery store, or restaurant/bar you go to now. It's all based on how many shots, etc. each bottle of booze normally gives you and bartenders and store owners/operators are required to collect that tax.

Now think about how many bar owners actually water down their stock to make it go further, without reducing the price per glass they pour, (I've worked in bars where this was done on a regular basis and could actually get three bottles of booze rather than the one original cuz most drunks can't tell the difference by the end of the night anyhow), the bar owner is now collecting sales tax three times the normal amount. Who do you think will get that money? It sure won't be the state, honey.

Good grief.........

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talk about asinine laws :(
by Mark5019 / December 7, 2006 6:13 AM PST

this is un enforceable

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It does say that it will be enforced by complaint
by Diana Forum moderator / December 7, 2006 6:24 AM PST

Cops won't be stopping the rigs to check if the driver is smoking.

I know how smoke can permeate a vehicle. I won't ride in my son's car because of the odor.


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The odor means nothing
by TONI H / December 7, 2006 6:41 AM PST

to a trucker when most of the rest of the truckers who would also use that cab would also be smokers, Diana.

The consequences for smoking in that cab will be all the excuse some employer is looking for to fire a trucker who has high union rank and wages and hire a low-wage rookie instead....and you better believe it will be used frequently since fuel costs have gone up for that employer. He'll be looking to cut costs any way he can, and the fact that no complaint to a 'smokie' caused a ticket for the trucker won't matter if the employer can say 'you broke the law, you COULD have cost me a fine, you're fired'.


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I don't know that much about union drivers
by Diana Forum moderator / December 7, 2006 6:48 AM PST
In reply to: The odor means nothing

My ex was an independent. It seems like this would only affect local drivers. Are these mostly union?

My girlfriend's husband worked for a local trucking company that the union forced into the union (most of the workers didn't want any part of it). The company were able to make the first raise but went under on the second raise six months later. 30 people out of work.


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Late breaking new from my inbox
by Steven Haninger / December 7, 2006 10:04 AM PST

from the Columbus Dispatch newspaper is that, for now, the law will not be enforced until specific rules can be written. It's a sketchy article saying rules need to be in place by June '07 and no enforcement will take place before then.

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Toni, Good luck to Ohio
by taboma / December 7, 2006 2:37 PM PST

I live in Taxachusetts, where Ted Kennedy tries to make the laws for everyone else. Good old Ted never would have voted on a tax increase for booze if he lived in Ohio!!!
His father was a rum runner from the word getgo and that's where his dad made all his money. Now it seems that good old Ted is just a rummy!
Too bad for Joan Kennedy.


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What a crock....
by Willy / December 8, 2006 12:52 AM PST

I understand the technical side of 'on the job work area' but Gezzzz, it really cutting it close. I think the real side effect is that now law enforcement has another tool to stop you to inspect and otherwise possibility issue a ticket. Only recently, Ohio voted down or restricted the usage of 'red light cameras' so there it goes. What one law intends to do and in reality just now is it enforced is entirely difficult to do and/or just gets into your craw if you think about it.

You can see the smoking ban people are so happy. As the old saying go. 'give an inch, they'll want a foot' or something like that. It used to be a 'no smoking area' then no smoking on the job site, then no smoking in the building, then it got to no smoking anywhere on company property and further, you'll lose your job if you refuse to quit after x-days to remain employed. Heck, we all die sooner or later, just allow me and others some pleasure in life even if it kills me. You get cancer from alot things 'naturally' and yeah man-made, but we're still living longer than our grandparents.

tada -----Willy Happy

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