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Any spouses/family members of US military here?

Sep 7, 2016 9:24PM PDT

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My son, as you know, is a Chief in the US Navy
Sep 8, 2016 6:24AM PDT

and we had a conversation about this topic this morning.......and he agrees with Trump....including his following statement about how only 240 +/- cases were actually prosecuted because it's a military case and those cases are so backlogged and take so long to bring to a tribunal that most cases are rarely able to be heard before people leave or are mustered out anyhow. He wants that process sped up in order to get justice for the thousands that never make it to court. I don't know if you remember this particular case back in 1991, but it was an continues to be a huge scandal that actually brought a light to what was happening in all branches of the military. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailhook_scandal

Positions of power will always have the black cloud of superiority and the attitude of "I'm the boss and can do as I please" surrounding that power....whether you are in the military or in a civilian position (look at Ailes, and many government levels in local, State, and Federal government, including the President). Nobody is immune to it and it's been the downfall of many through the years.

As long as anybody believes they are in positions that can influence or intimidate others, you will continue to have these situations come up, but the justice system in the military especially needs to be overhauled to make it abundantly clear that justice will be swift for the victims and stop protecting and mollycoddling the perpetrator instead (thanks to liberal bleeding hearts). I'm a firm believer that we need to have tiered court systems.....minor crimes such as shoplifting etc need to be in a court that only handles those types of crimes and major crimes such as rape and murder need to have their own tier so justice comes rapidly instead of two or three years before they are brought to a backlogged roster. The same has to be done in the military tribunal system.

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RE: He wants that process sped up in order
Sep 8, 2016 6:56AM PDT
He wants that process sped up in order to get justice for the thousands that never make it to court.

He comes across as believing that military personnel can't control their "urges".

What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?
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My oldest
Sep 8, 2016 7:43AM PDT

Is a sergeant in the US Marine Corps, and a drill instructor at Camp LeJeune. She teaches new recruits how to break down, assemble and properly shoot the M-16 and some other combat lessons. Previously she was a welder and stationed in Japan. She's had no such problem as described in the report.

When I was in the AF, I saw no such problems directed at the women. My wife was also in for 10 years and encountered no such problem. I would be interested in knowing the particular job area where such problems may occur or happen most frequently.

I can tell you that some women in the military will claim harassment when their job performance is lacking or they screw up in some manner and they end up getting a less than satisfactory report on them about it. The report seems to back up this by all the reports that turned out to be false.

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POV from experience
Sep 8, 2016 10:10AM PDT

As anyone may or may not know, there weren't many females in the military back in the 70's. Though that has greatly changed in the 21st century of the new US military. While many are there certainly to do a trained job, many are also replacing what was so-called male preference and/or that's all there was. Whenever, the posting can be filled, it hardly matters now in the low-levels of the military currently. Thus goes the old man-female interaction WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN an issue and where-as many higher-ups didn't want to deal with it or dismissed so readily. However, times have caught-up and basically you can't get away with it or push it away. Plus, all these hot young service people are bound to cause fiction sooner or later even under the best circumstances. I really have to say, females in the military will always have issues but those in command better have in place some quick means to deal with it and start the legal process when things get out of hand. But then if it doesn't change or become fixable, then things can only get worse for the low-level military and make such issues come to the fore-front and reduce the pool of talent willing to enlist now and in the future. -----Willy Happy

FYI- The recent internment of a WWII WASP female pilot in Arlington Cemetery. Prior to that no WASP fulfilled what was required of military service to be so interned. The recent passage of Congress Bill:
https://susandavis.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/senate-passes-mcsally-davis-wasp-act-to-allow-wwii-pilots-access-to