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Anti Virus AVG

by raybies / March 28, 2005 2:26 PM PST

I started with Spybot, Ad-Aware, CW Shredder. First time I ran them they pulled out over 10,000 suspect files. I quarantined them, not being certain that some of them may effect the operation or parts of the operation. It was suggested that I get a good anti virus so I downloaded AVG after reading mostly good things on different forums. I ran AVG and it identified over 10,000 suspect files. (Netsky was dominate). Now I'm wondering two things. First, could these files that AVG identified be the same ones that are quarantined? Secondly, it is taking an inordinate amount of time for AVG to "heal" the files. It is approx. 40% through the 10,000+ files (by it's own display) and it's taken over 15 hours. Is this normal?
Sorry for the long questions.
Thank you.

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by MarkFlax Forum moderator / March 28, 2005 5:08 PM PST
In reply to: Anti Virus AVG

suspected files is an incredibly infected machine.

I'm really most surprised that you've been able to use it at all with that level of infection.

I'm not sure about AVG recognising the quarantined files but as AVG and the other anti-malware programs you used report roughly the same number, then I suspect that AVG is checking the same files.

I suggest that you cancel out of AVG. If your computer is running well with those files from Spybot, Ad-Aware and CW Shredder now in quarantine, it is now time to delete those quarantined files. Get rid of them.

You haven't said what Windows OS you are using. If it is XP, disable System Restore, (Control Panel > System, System Restore tab and tick "Turn off System Restore").

Reboot your computer. (With XP, this will delete all the restore files where a lot of viruses and other malware can hide). Update the definitions for Spybot, Ad-Aware and CW Shredder, and run them all again. Quarantine any other infections. Reboot the computer again and check that it works ok, eg internet, programs, games, music, etc. If so, delete the quarantine items.

Make sure that the AVG definitions are uptodate, then run AVG and do a full system scan. Quarantine all infections.

Re-enable System Restore, reboot, and create a System Restore point immediately, (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore).

Download and install all Windows critical updates.

Make sure you have an effective firewall. Windows XP does have one, but it is not as good as third party ones like ZoneAlarm free.


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I would add to Mark's great advice
by glb613 / March 28, 2005 7:31 PM PST
In reply to: 10,000

get Spyware Blaster. It immunizes your computer and prevents spyware from getting on your computer. Then you need to seriously evaluate how you use the internet. There are only a few ways to get that much spyware installed. If you don't change your surfing habits, the chances of getting reinfected are very high.

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Thank you for the tips
by raybies / March 28, 2005 11:20 PM PST

Mark and GLB. Please excuse me for the silly question but is rebooting the computer simply shutting it down and restarting? I don't think my surfing habits are any different than most. There was a teenager using this computer up until about a year ago, tho. I know there was a lot of music sharing going on (Kazaa). Re; large number of files suspect: I was reading about certain strains of netsky in the AVG stuff and some worms copy themselves. I was watching the list of suspect files fly by and noticed a ton of the same files. Computer seems to work fine. Maybe I caught it in time. Rookie luck? Thanks for the help.

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(NT) (NT) Yes to your rebooting question.
by roddy32 / March 28, 2005 11:25 PM PST
In reply to: Thank you for the tips
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OS Xp Pro
by raybies / March 28, 2005 11:29 PM PST
In reply to: Thank you for the tips

Am running xp pro behind a linksys router configured to highest security levels.

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Then again...
by Willy / March 28, 2005 11:48 PM PST
In reply to: OS Xp Pro

"linksys router configured to highest security levels."

Well, then after 10,000 malware hits, is that really secure. Something is amiss and I thought the h/w is to blame, you should serious review what you "grant access" for and use the fore-mentioned AV and scanners more often.
While the free AVG is pretty good and well, a more deicated AV pgm. should be had and thus pay for its use if you're going to be that infected. Consider the use MS own beta released scanner based on Giant's scanner and that free for personal use.

enjoy Happy -----Willy

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Router newly installed
by raybies / March 29, 2005 5:17 AM PST
In reply to: Then again...

I should have mentioned that the router was just installed about a month ago. No security whatsoever before that (beyond xp firewall).

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10,000 malware files is a lot
by glb613 / March 29, 2005 5:30 AM PST
In reply to: Thank you for the tips

And is more than I've heard anyone having. I helped clean up a computer that had over a 1000 files and I thought that was excessive. P2P sharing is the main cause of this type of problem.

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What are examples of P2P sharing?
by raybies / March 29, 2005 10:42 AM PST

I think KaZaa is one but what are others? How would you identify a P2P sharing site? I have heard that porno sites can "infect" you, as well. Are they "sharing" sites, too? I have also heard that printer and file sharing on xp can be a way in for malware. I am hoping that is only when not protected by firewall, router, mac addressing, etc. It would be interesting to learn where the malware comes from, how it can get in, best way to protect against, etc.

The development of this sort of (trojan, worm, virus, whatever) thing is just mindless vandalism perpetuated by teensy minds, with no real purpose except to try to bring others down to join them in their pathetic little existence. They should all just kill themselves. (or am I missing something here?)

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I did the thing
by raybies / March 30, 2005 4:03 AM PST
In reply to: 10,000

Mark, I did the thing like you suggested. Feel much better now, having gotten rid of those pesky problems. I did notice however that after I backed out of the initial AVG "healing" my computer is noticeably slower. Improved a little after cleansing, still slower than it was. Any ideas?

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