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by Steven Haninger / January 14, 2016 1:17 PM PST

Answer to my own question, no I can't. I can create a new discussion but cannot reply. I did the same in the test forum. Something is broken. I did change the email address in my profile yesterday and went through the Cnet verification/validation rigmarole. It took about 3 tried but seemed to go through OK but, today, not working. I see others are doing OK. Did I corrupt my profile?

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Post was last edited on January 15, 2016 2:47 PM PST

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Hi Steven,
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 14, 2016 1:27 PM PST

You didn't have this problem before. Are you running an Adblocker?

If so, it's most likely preventing the JavaScript on our pages from executing. Turn off ad blocker for our site and see if this is still a problem.

BTW I'm deleting your other post that you created titled: Can I post here and reply?

If you want to test, please feel free to use the Test forum here

Let me know what you find.
Thanks,
-Lee

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Looks like you're right
by Steven Haninger / January 14, 2016 2:01 PM PST
In reply to: Hi Steven,

I'd gone to the test forum first and encountered the same. I've tried other PCs and operating systems with the same result. I can do nothing using IE (older version) when logged into Cnet so can't test for ad blocking that way. Yes, I do you adblock plus and have noted some other sites refuse entry to anyone who doesn't want to ads popping up. I'll need to think about this for a time as I didn't bother with blocking ads when they were fewer. Thanks for your reply.

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Firefox and Adblock+ is now inop.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 14, 2016 1:37 PM PST

Confirmed.

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I'm already using a different one
by itsdigger / January 14, 2016 2:10 PM PST

everything works just fine

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Edit
by itsdigger / January 14, 2016 2:18 PM PST

It only worked for a few minutes. Back to square one

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What are you using and is it with Linux?
by Steven Haninger / January 14, 2016 2:21 PM PST

I'm using Win7 and Mint with FF as my browser. I can disable ABP just for Cnet but, if it gets to looking like trying to drive down the main drag at 2:00 AM in Vegas..... Happy

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Hmmm where are the slots and tables?!
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 14, 2016 2:28 PM PST
Wink

Post was last edited on January 14, 2016 2:29 PM PST

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It's Fugly
by itsdigger / January 14, 2016 2:37 PM PST

and distracting. Sad
Hopefully there will be another way to block these ads.

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Ya, know. If an ad will just sit there at the side
by Steven Haninger / January 14, 2016 2:53 PM PST
In reply to: It's Fugly

and not change, move around, and deliberately try to get attention if I ignore it, I'd probably not bother with adblock so much. I've had to help other people with their PC problems and couldn't even troubleshoot properly due to constant ads and other clickbait. I've taken to disabling 3rd party cookies clearing everything upon exiting my browser except for cookies from a very few trusted sites. I suspect I'll pay for that too.

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The black band at the top of CNET pages...
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 14, 2016 2:59 PM PST

serves our internal promotions and the one currently running is for our new autos site, Roadshow. Just as a reminder Steven, that serving ads is our business. Without ads, site like ours or most of the Website on the Internet you visit would most likely not exist.

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I'm aware of what you're saying about business
by Steven Haninger / January 14, 2016 4:55 PM PST

and I didn't install adblock because of Cnet but mainly because of the ads on news sites. Of course, they are also a business.

FWIW, this just started happening today and I didn't see this change announced anywhere. While the tzars of Cnet would have no obligation to do so, it would have been nice had there been a banner running on top to give notice a few days beforehand. Had they done so, this conversation wouldn't have taken place. Thanks again for your prompt response.

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Sorry I'm not too sure I understand Steven...
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 14, 2016 5:06 PM PST

what you mean by CNET "banner running on top to give notice a few days beforehand."

Are you talking about us giving warning about the Ad blockers misbehaving with our site?

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Not at all
by Steven Haninger / January 14, 2016 5:33 PM PST

As I mentioned, this just started for me today. In my feedback post, I did mention having changed my email address yesterday so I needed to consider that might have something to do with today's problem until you asked about ad blockers. I've had ABP for some time and never had a problem. After your suggestion worked, I thought Cnet flipped some switch between yesterday and today to cause this. Perhaps that's not true. In any event, Cnet has always given warning when changes were due to be made that would affect forum availability or function such as when they would be in "read only" mode. If nothing happened within the forum software between then and now to cause what I started seeing today, I stand corrected.

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I'm so use to it, I don't even see it...
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 14, 2016 2:53 PM PST
In reply to: It's Fugly

What changed recently with the ad blockers you are using?

It didn't seem like you all had problems before.

I'm curious.

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It just started today
by itsdigger / January 14, 2016 3:04 PM PST

The Real Time forum doesn't refresh, can't post, can't go into my profile
I'll be looking for a work around.
Happy the other forums I go to don't have ads.

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Thanks digger!
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 14, 2016 3:28 PM PST
In reply to: It just started today

Which ad blocker are you using specifically? Is it Adblock+ as Bob mentioned?

Thanks,
-Lee

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(NT) It's adblock plus Lee
by itsdigger / January 14, 2016 3:57 PM PST
In reply to: Thanks digger!
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Thanks, if you find a way to make it work...
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 14, 2016 4:24 PM PST
In reply to: It's adblock plus Lee

without disrupting our sites JavaScript, please let me know.

I'd appreciate it!

-Lee

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For now
by itsdigger / January 14, 2016 5:00 PM PST

I switched to Chrome and the ad blocker works there until you guys find a way to kill it too.

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A though, though this isn't the right forum for it
by Steven Haninger / January 14, 2016 5:12 PM PST
In reply to: For now

Firefox does allow a person to create multiple profiles and launch that of their choice with each session. It's something I've done if I have a few sites that don't work well with my standard configuration. There are other sites such as Forbes that have gone the route of no access if ads are blocked. I expect we'll see more of this. I may just create another profile for the "No ads, no service" sites rather than run wide open to anything that gets pushed onto my screen.

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We aren't killing anything Digger.
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / January 14, 2016 5:20 PM PST
In reply to: For now

It's not like we did something to intentionally disrupt our site usage for people who have ad blocker installed on their system. My suspicion is that something in Ad blocker plus changed that is stopping our JavaScript from executing. This is not our doing.

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Hmmm...you may be onto something
by Steven Haninger / January 15, 2016 1:52 AM PST

I am wondering if it's Firefox as it's also been recently updated. When I had the problem on my PC yesterday morning, I switched to an old laptop that hadn't been turned on recently. I was able to press the reply button once and bring up the expected screen. As I probed other forums as a test, the reply button became inactive. This laptop also has ABP in Firefox. It could well be that one of these updated itself and killed some Cnet functionality. What I could and might try is to restore an old image on my own PC and see what happens. I suppose this could be my AV program as well but I haven't tried disabling it as of yet and may do that too. I'd like to get to the bottom of this if possible. If it's ABP, FF or Avast, I'm sure there will be web chatter about it soon.

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OK Lee
by itsdigger / January 15, 2016 3:52 AM PST

I updated FF about a week ago and had no troubles until yesterday.
But it might make sense as Chrome with ABP works fine .

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My experiment, FWIW
by Steven Haninger / January 15, 2016 5:02 AM PST
In reply to: OK Lee

I restored a week old image on my Windows 7 PC. The FF version was 43.03 on that image. I was able to post replies just fine. I updated FF to 43.04 and Cnet got messed up again. The reply button ceased to function. I have 4 user profiles on that PC and switching profiles, once again, allowed me to use the Cnet reply button but only for a short period. I noted that my ABP showed a last update of mid December so it hasn't updated in a while. I began to wonder if FF wasn't the problem so I booted into Linux mint on the same machine. The FF version on that one is 43.0 and was so prior to the Cnet problems. The ABP add-on for this OS was also last updated in December so it doesn't appear to be suspect either. What I can't figure is why restoring the old image worked for a few mouse clicks but failed again. I could wonder if some dynamic process is at work but I've no expertise in this area...some site certificate or something?

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Same here
by itsdigger / January 15, 2016 5:27 AM PST
In reply to: My experiment, FWIW

I hadn't updated FF yet , still had v 43.0.1 and everything worked fine.
Updated FF to v43.0.4 and had to disable ABP

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Something else weird
by itsdigger / January 15, 2016 5:56 AM PST
In reply to: Same here

I don't have to disable ABP on Chrome to use the Forbes site

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It's not just the ads but the tracking
by Steven Haninger / January 15, 2016 6:03 AM PST
In reply to: Same here

I can't fault advertisers for wanting us to see their ads. I do wish some were more respectful of my personal space. But the tracking makes it worse. I don't believe it's right for my presence in a store or on an internet site to become license for a vendor to use that to place ads in front of my face wherever I go. That's what's happening. You can be watched in a store for other than security reasons. Your smart phone can ID you to the merchant. They can record what you look at as well as what you buy. To me, that's a personal intrusion that I don't care for. My interests belong to me and surreptitiously acquiring knowledge of them so that I can be targeted for any reason is just plain disrespectful. These tracking sites are better than the CIA at knowing our every move. Happy

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Just noticed this
by Steven Haninger / January 15, 2016 12:19 PM PST
In reply to: Same here

ABP "easylist" shows update on 1/13/16 though ABP shows update in December. I was confusing the application with the subscription. The Cnet issue probably has something to do with the subscription. Somewhere in the mile long filter list will lie the culprit. Happy witch hunting.

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Won't the ABP
by itsdigger / January 15, 2016 12:24 PM PST
In reply to: Just noticed this

on Chrome be the same ?

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BINGO. Changed from Easylist and FF+ABP worked.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 15, 2016 12:43 PM PST
In reply to: Just noticed this

Wondered which changed. CNET or ABP or a list. Thanks for the research.

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