Another problem to worry about, besides

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Surprisingly, the first and last paragraphs

by TONI H Dec 16, 2018 6:10AM PST

of the article are the most important ones.....I agree with both. Forcing people to pay for something they can't afford should not be up to temporary country leaders because the people themselves will be suffering for it long after those leaders are gone. Any decisions done on a local level should be put on a ballot so the people affected can have a say in it.

Another statement made in the article shows that only the elite investors will benefit from world-wide 'rules', and if you don't think the countries' leaders making these decisions aren't also investors, you're dreaming. Just ask Al Gore and all the millions HE's made on this topic alone, even though he's a total hypocrite about it in his personal life.

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RE:he's a total hypocrite about it in his personal life.

by JP Bill Dec 16, 2018 7:29AM PST

"total"?

HE has absolutely nothing to do with "carbon offsets"? NO contributions whatsoever?

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In what way are you talking that

by TONI H Dec 16, 2018 10:28AM PST

he has contributed to carbon offsets? I'd really like to know how someone who wrote and produced a movie that was discredited that made him millions, speeches that he flies a private speech to, world 'climate change' meetings that he also flies private jets to, a house that uses 4000 times the amount of electricity the average household and some COMPANIES use, and browse thru this Bing search list of the various 'climate change' companies that he has invested in.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=cimate+change+companies+al+gore+has+investments+in&form=EDGNTT&qs=PF&cvid=ebcae336d63f4a179e83f95a7b50accc&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AXK1c4IvZoNqPoPnS%21QRLOOewBuQ3LsugPMQkfvboqziwm32TkK543AlLDBHXdpZSn2I8N1uphDrMH*dBaZY4Xz5WJqbSXwrVy6F8ldX7zsp&plvar=0&PC=HCTS

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RE:In what way are you talking that

by JP Bill Dec 16, 2018 12:39PM PST

In what way are you talking that he has contributed to carbon offsets?

By making a monthly financial contribution.

I could tell you how much he is said to pay monthly towards carbon offsets, and it wouldn't be enough for you. And you would dispute the source.

However it would dispute YOUR claim that he is a "total hypocrite".

Would you like me to provide the link so you could prove that I am correct when/if you respond?

Don't agree UNLESS you won't dispute the source and the figures.

He lives in a 20,000 sq ft house with a pool others live in a 2,000 sq ft house without a pool, others live in a 600 sq ft house.

WHERE is the justice? PS:The bigger the house the more you pay? Anyone have another method of being "fair"?

browse thru this Bing search list of the various 'climate change' companies that he has invested in.

Don't you recall the crying the last time you told me to use BING?

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OK..I'll take your challenge...

by TONI H Dec 16, 2018 3:40PM PST

provide the links that show how much he CONTRIBUTES vs how much he MAKES. YOU can use Google or Yahoo or whatever you use as a search engine. I've already provided all the Bing searches re: his investments and the SOURCES are plentiful. I don't care what source you use....but you better make it worth the effort because I have plenty more that CAN dispute it.

As for the size of the house HIS CARBON FOOTPRINT still equals 4000 times the average....and WE don't fly around in private jets every time we leave our houses....what's THAT carbon footprint look like?

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RE: vs how much he MAKES

by JP Bill Dec 16, 2018 5:54PM PST

How much he makes?.....That wasn't in MY challenge

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(NT) So what exactly IS your challenge?

by TONI H Dec 17, 2018 2:40AM PST

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RE:As for the size of the house

by JP Bill Dec 16, 2018 6:32PM PST

As for the size of the house HIS CARBON FOOTPRINT still equals 4000 times the average.

I can find 34 times, 20 times AND 12 times..... so I think 4,000 times is a bit of a stretch.

Sounds like gross exaggeration to me.

Al Gore's residence uses considerably more energy than the average American home.

Al Gore, who was criticized for high electric bills at his Tennessee mansion, has completed a host of improvements to make the home more energy efficient, and a building-industry group has praised the house as one of the nation’s most environmentally friendly.

The former vice president has installed solar panels, a rainwater-collection system and geothermal heating. He also replaced all incandescent lights with compact fluorescent or light-emitting diode bulbs.

“Short of tearing it down and staring anew, I don’t know how it could have been rated any higher,” said Kim Shinn of the U.S. Green Building Council, which gave the house its second-highest rating for sustainable design.

Gore’s improvements cut the home’s summer electrical consumption by 11 percent compared with a year ago, according to utility records reviewed by The Associated Press. Most Nashville homes used 20 percent to 30 percent more electricity during the same period because of a record heat wave.

Drew Johnson, a senior fellow at the National Center for Public Policy Research, a conservative think tank, wrote the August 2017 piece. (Johnson appears to have been behind the 2007 claims about Gore’s energy use as well.) In that article, he cited his own report for National Center for Public Policy Research (without making it clear that he authored the report), in which he found that Gore’s electricity bill for September 2016 was 34 times more than the national average. However, Johnson, as well as other sources that replicated his claims — including the National Center for Public Policy Research’s own press release — implied in the headlines or bodies of their articles that Gore’s home “consistently devoured” 34 times more energy than the average home, which was not the case: that figure was based on estimates for a single month during the previous year, and that single month was August, a time of the year when energy usage typically spikes due high mid-summer temperatures.

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