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Another person for TheRUMP to pardon?

Sep 1, 2017 4:11AM PDT
Milwaukee sheriff and ardent Trump supporter David Clarke resigns with a one-sentence letter

MILWAUKEE — Outspoken Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, who built a following among conservatives nationally with his provocative social media presence and strong support of Donald Trump, resigned on Thursday.

Voces de la Frontera, an advocacy group for immigrants and low-wage workers, had sharply criticized Clarke for seeking authority for his deputies to perform the functions of immigration agents.

The tough-talking, cowboy hat-wearing firebrand made himself a darling of the political right through his brash social media presence, his staunch support for Trump’s crackdown on illegal immigration and his support for patrolling Muslim neighbourhoods.

A lengthy inquest into the dehydration death of a Milwaukee County Jail inmate earlier this year raised troubling questions about how Clarke managed the jail — just as the White House was said to be considering him. The Milwaukee County District Attorney’s Office is considering charges in the case, but not against Clarke, because prosecutors said he wasn’t directly involved in the events that led to the inmate’s death.


Sheriff Joe...eastern version?

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Ahh, finally.
Sep 10, 2017 9:15AM PDT

Let me in on the BIG secret. What are my motives? Something other than not wanting people being hoodwinked by false doctrines? Even to denying Christ came "in the flesh"? Even beyond pointing to the only Mediator between God and Man? Even beyond pointing out you follow the "chain of command"?

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Lost track of this part.
Sep 10, 2017 11:22AM PDT

>Even beyond pointing out you follow the "chain of command"?<
The chain we follow is the same one "John the Revelator"* had. Rev 1:1-3. Paraphrase: Jehovah to Jesus; Jesus to his angel; the angel to John; John to us; we to the world.

*Ever hear the song? Catchy.

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Why ring, when a section of
Sep 9, 2017 11:25PM PDT

4 x 4 lumber with a handle makes a bigger impression?
Not us, except in your fantasy world.
Reality: Only the Catholics and Lutherans are also under the Great Commission. Would Jesus consider it a subject for practical joking? How does it go for them when they try it in seriousness? Have you asked?

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"Do unto others, but....
Sep 10, 2017 9:21AM PDT

.....not unto me?" Surely, all considered, you'd not mind some door knocking New Age Bible sellers knocking on your door at supper time? As for Jesus, I don't recall him going door knocking, but "as was his custom" preaching in the synagogues, and at the temple and on hillsides to those who came to hear him. Other than when he called the first 12 disciples to him, the only doors he was found at is where he'd been invited.

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James, you specified sending people to pretend to
Sep 10, 2017 11:05AM PDT

"preach the good news of the kingdom" [Mt 24:14] as a joke or annoyance.
You refer to Matthew ch. 10, but say it ended there. That of course lets you off the hook; you can worship Jesus as God with no obligation to obey him or Jehovah. [Mt 7:21 ff.] But, as you failed to recall, it continued even then. [Lu 10:1]
We began in earnest at Acts ch. 2 and continued to Paul's day and beyond. [Acts 20:20]
We continue today, as Jesus' earthly representatives in "hallowing God's name". [John 17:6,26; Lu 11:2]
We continue today, promoting his Father's kingdom as the only way for mankind to have the good government it desires [Lu 11:2] while others continue to look to their fellow imperfect men for guidance. [Mr 7:8; Ps 146:3; Jer 10:23; your daily paper]
We continue today, asking people we meet to pay attention to the warning signs all around them. [Mt 24:38,39] You would rather ridicule. [2Pet 3:3,4]
When God's word on these matters is shown to you, you make up excuses for not reading it for yourself, and find fault with its messengers. [1Pet 4:4]
James, how could any Christian deny that Christ came in the flesh, when the Bible says unequivocally that he did? [1Pet 4:1] Everyone knows "the Word became flesh and resided among us", for the same reason. [John 1:14] John saw him on a daily basis.
Unless ... Do you mean 'God became flesh'? John didn't say that, nor did he say it was Jehovah that men were seeing. [John 1:18; Ex 33:17,20] So what we affirm and what we deny can be seen in your own Bible.
Unless you make an excuse for not reading it for yourself.
Twenty scriptures, twenty excuses?

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"All Authority"
Sep 10, 2017 3:26PM PDT

Of course this might mean something else in JW doublespeak.

Here's 19 verses which Trump your misleadings and misconceptions above.

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/All-Authority-Has-Been-Given-To-Jesus

All Authority Has Been Given To Jesus

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Ephesians 1:21
far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.

Matthew 28:18-20
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

Matthew 11:27
"All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

Philippians 2:9
For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,

Colossians 2:10
and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

1 Peter 3:22
who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.

John 3:35
"The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand.

Ephesians 1:20
which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,

Matthew 28:17
When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful.

John 17:2
even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.

1 Corinthians 15:24
then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.

Philippians 2:10
so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

John 19:11
Jesus answered, "You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason he who delivered Me to you has the greater sin."

Matthew 26:64
Jesus said to him, "You have said it yourself; nevertheless I tell you, hereafter you will see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."

John 3:31
"He who comes from above is above all, he who is of the earth is from the earth and speaks of the earth He who comes from heaven is above all.

Psalm 8:6
You make him to rule over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,
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Remember the words of Jesus to the Pharisees in his day (first century Jehovah Witnesses)

Matthew chapter 7

15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Please notice [my third-graders did]
Sep 10, 2017 9:30PM PDT

that the bulk of your 'quote-bites' re-expose your incompetence with prepositions and possessives. Two people; one always subordinate to the other.
We noticed also that Eph 2:20 and 21, and Php 1:9 and 10 are together in my NWT but widely separated in your post. Even they recognized that the first of each pair invalidates the trinitarian spin on the second: that 'Jesus is above even Jehovah'. You thought they wouldn't notice.
More important is the same teaching at 1Co 15:26,27. "For God 'subjected all things under his feet [xref Ps 8:6]. But when he says that 'all things have been subjected,' IT IS EVIDENT that this does NOT include the One who subjected all things to him."
Why the difference? Using the Bible to teach the Bible, we learn that Ephesus and Philippi were spiritually mature, obedient congregations. At the time of Paul's first letter, though, Corinth was neither. Good hearted Christians vs. hard hearted ones. Each got the teaching it could use. Corinth did turn itself around. [2 Corinthians]

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"The Pharisees of his day"
Sep 10, 2017 9:55PM PDT

To keep us all honest, I call them 'the mainstream religious leaders of his day', bringing it down to our day. Then as now they persecute us followers of Jesus, as he himself prophesied. John 15:20.
Then as now they oppose the truth of God's word with the false traditions of men. Mr 7:13.
Then as now they observe us doing godly work, then go and plot against us. Mr 3:6.
Their motive? They are afraid of losing the high regard they have from the rulers, and their status, to "men unlettered and ordinary". John 11:48; Acts 4:13.

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Sep 10, 2017 3:29PM PDT
" Do you mean 'God became flesh'? John didn't say that, nor did he say it was Jehovah that men were seeing. [John 1:18; Ex 33:17,20] So what we affirm and what we deny can be seen in your own Bible."

Look up Jesus words "Before Abraham, I AM" and understand if you can what it means, GOD IN THE FLESH. Also look up "We are ONE". Why do you think the JW's (Pharisees) of that day wanted to stone him?
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Your first ¶ quotes me, so it's correct and proven
Sep 10, 2017 7:52PM PDT

by the citations, which you show you did NOT read.
Your second is discredited as a proof of trinity because (1) no holy spirit person in it, (2) "I am" is not an accurate translation of the sentence at Ex 3:14, the short form of which is Jehovah, and (3) the translation you do offer of "I am" is completely false. 'God in the flesh' is in your primitive and faulty KJV but like the Comma is no longer in better translated Bibles. Doctrine of men, not God.

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The Jews understood what Jesus meant....
Sep 11, 2017 10:03AM PDT

...even if you don't 2000 years later. If I saw you, your wife, and daughter walking down the road and someone asked me if I'd seen you and I told them "yes, he and his wife were walking down the road earlier", then that doesn't mean your daughter wasn't with you too. You are straining at gnats in attempt to defend your error, which are actually JW errors, from their teachings to their New World Bible translation.

Remember, Jesus also said no man had seen the Father except Him.

John 6: 36
But I have testimony more substantial than that of John. For the works that the Father has given Me to accomplish—the very works I am doing—testify about Me that the Father has sent Me. And the Father who sent Me has Himself testified about Me. You have never heard His voice nor seen His form, nor does His word abide in you, because you do not believe the One He sent.

John 1:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

17 - For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 - No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

As for the Holy Spirit.

29 - The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 - And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

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Oh, little Jimmy ...
Sep 11, 2017 10:44AM PDT

"Descending UPON"
"Son OF God"
Light, not heat.

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Oh, Duggy....
Sep 11, 2017 12:06PM PDT

"Son of God, Son of Man". I know those two create a conundrum for you.

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Duggy is abdominal! And I am unanimous in this!
Sep 11, 2017 3:23PM PDT

Doogie has renown, at least. My Vietnamese friends called me Dung, apparently a homophone. After all we've been through, you're free to call me ... Sir.
More gods for you, unto whom one is not enough.
Eze 2:1 "He then said to me, 'Son of man*, stand up on your feet that I may speak with you.'" [He = Jehovah, to me = to Ezekiel.]
Luke 3:38 "son of Enosh, son of Seth, son of Adam, son of God."
Here's an easier scripture, nicely quoted for you.
"The righteous will possess the earth, and they will live forever upon it." Ps 37:29, a really good Bible.
Future tense; doesn't that make it a prophecy or prediction? Will we see it fulfilled? If so, when?
Lee's gonna lock us if we don't bring it back to the OP or its orange elephant in the room, so: Gollleee! Sounds like someone wants to make the earth great again!
*Fn, in a really good Bible: The first of 93 occurrences of this expression in Ezekiel.

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Did you mean abominable?
Sep 11, 2017 4:20PM PDT

You completely changed the line of thought from who Jesus is, his relationship to the Father, who is in charge of this earth and the resurrection, et al.

Now you want to switch to Isaiah and Revelation concerning the situation of the earth in the future?

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Three questions, not one answer. Typical, and
Sep 12, 2017 12:30AM PDT

not encouraging.
The "line of thought" hasnt been changed, it has been ended. I present the Bible's view of the relationship and you deny it.
If you tell me what passages in Isaiah and Revelation you have in mind, I can respond to them. Isa 45:18 says something about the earth, but that was long ago. How could it have anything to do with the 'future situation'?
Giggle the BBC show Are You Being Served?
Or did I mean Goggle?

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(NT) NT - Having a tummy ache?
Sep 11, 2017 4:23PM PDT
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I apologize if this is a double post. Bad day for
Sep 10, 2017 11:12AM PDT

stupid phones.
James, you specified sending out people to pretend to "preach the good news of the kingdom" [Mt 24:14] as a joke or annoyance.
You refer to Matthew ch. 10, but say it ended there. That of course lets you off the hook; you can worship Jesus as God with no obligation to obey him or Jehovah. [Mt 7:21 ff.] But, as you failed to recall, it continued even then. [Lu 10:1]
We began in earnest at Acts ch. 2 and continued to Paul's day and beyond. [Acts 20:20]
We continue today, as Jesus' earthly representatives in "hallowing God's name". [John 17:6,26; Lu 11:2]
We continue today, promoting his Father's kingdom as the only way for mankind to have the good government it desires [Lu 11:2] while others continue to look to their fellow imperfect men for guidance. [Mr 7:8; Ps 146:3; Jer 10:23; your daily paper]
We continue today, asking people we meet to pay attention to the warning signs all around them. [Mt 24:38,39] You would rather ridicule. [2Pet 3:3,4]
When God's word on these matters is shown to you, you make up excuses for not reading it for yourself, and find fault with its messengers. [1Pet 4:4]
James, how could any Christian deny that Christ came in the flesh, when the Bible says unequivocally that he did? [1Pet 4:1] Everyone knows "the Word became flesh and resided among us", for the same reason. [John 1:14] John saw him on a daily basis.
Unless ... Do you mean 'God became flesh'? John didn't say that, nor did he say it was Jehovah that men were seeing. [John 1:18; Ex 33:17,20] So what we affirm and what we deny can be seen in your own Bible.
Unless you make an excuse for not reading it for yourself.
Twenty scriptures, twenty excuses?

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(NT) HAH! Told you so!
Sep 10, 2017 11:13AM PDT
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REWe call it HBH - home but hiding
Sep 6, 2017 10:17AM PDT

Do you have a code for Video Doorbell?

VD?

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(NT) Electronic Doorbell.
Sep 6, 2017 5:04PM PDT
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RE: (NT) Electronic Doorbell
Sep 6, 2017 7:19PM PDT

Do you also indicate the Brand and Model number?

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First, re-read your own post.
Sep 7, 2017 10:29AM PDT

Second, assume I got the joke.
Third, re-read my reply.
Fourth, connect the dots.

Quoting another poster: "Are you really that dumb?"

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RE:Second, assume I got the joke.
Sep 7, 2017 10:50AM PDT

Let's continue then...

Another VD is Vicious Dog?

Got a code for Trail Cam?

How 'bout Hiding Behind Drapes?.....HBD....sometimes confused with Has Been Drinking?

Drinking?...

Those are houses I'd look for...we could have a drink and talk foolish.

Is there a code for people that turn their lawn sprinklers on when their house is approached?

Some of your compatriots came here about 20 years ago...I don't recall what I said, or did, but haven't seen them since.

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I have an acquaintance and sometimes Bible call
Sep 3, 2017 1:39PM PDT

here in town. He's a decent guy; a retired teacher who always went overboard for his kids.
Anyway, in his language the following are all synonyms: liberal, Democrat, druggies, Mexican and cockroach.
Wait, there's more. He's Hispanic; let's call him John Vasquez. [Background: Here in NM the ancestry is actually Spanish, not mestizo or whatever.] When he's ranting about the Spanish surnamed part of the above, I tell him, "John, your name is Vasquez. Back in L
A. you would have been my natural enemy!" He hangs his head and says, "Yeah, I know." Happy

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Why a 'natural enemy'???
Sep 4, 2017 3:30AM PDT

Heck, back in the day, if your last name ended in a 'vowel', people steered clear because of your 'association' with the mafia. I guess I'm not getting your point, but at least he's right about one thing even though they appear to be YOUR words and not his...... "the following are all synonyms: liberal, Democrat, druggies, Mexican and cockroach".

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I'm reporting his words.
Sep 4, 2017 5:47PM PDT

He's very outspoken. I've seen him insult the RCC at the Senior Center lunch.
"Natural enemy" means because of one's prejudices, of course. He got my meaning.
You did not.

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Natural enemy??
Sep 5, 2017 2:22AM PDT

I think we have a conflict in our definitions. When I think of a "natural" enemy, I think of such things as the food chain. In this case, a natural enemy is a predator, a parasite or a critter that competes with them for the same food source or territory. In the animal world, we call this behavior "instinctive". I'd have to say that, in your example, the status of being an enemy would be learned and not instinctive. We learn that humans don't really have any natural enemies (though I'd say mosquitoes were given a pass) and humans have competed for food and territory but I'd not want to implicate racial differences as having created a natural barrier between us. Just my two cents. I'm sure you have some scripture up your sleeve to offer as a rebuttal. Devil Happy

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That's just what I meant.
Sep 5, 2017 12:54PM PDT

As one might say 'The Mall is my daughter's natural habitat.'
If we're prejudiced to the point of blindness then we become predators and prey to others, no questions asked. There may be a news item or two about that today ... or yesterday ... or tomorrow.
One passage that's relevant is Acts ch. 10. You should read the whole thing, or have James read it to you. The punch line is vv. 34,35.

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In many ways, we get subtle clues
Sep 5, 2017 1:26PM PDT

as to the root causes of prejudice. I can imagine Europeans entering the African jungles and coming upon the darker skinned people who were only partially clad and imitated the sounds of the native animal species. It might have been very natural to think that, though they resembled other humans, they were missing something. The real problem was that there was no way to communicate with these people. Today, I see a bunch of young folks in the mall acting strangely and speaking a language that only roughly has any similarity to English...and I know how the early missionaries must have felt. Happy