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Another anti-marijuana "fact" debunked

May 28, 2006 7:39AM PDT
Study finds marijuana not a cause for lung cancer; Results 'against our expectations,' researchers say. (Chronicle login: semods4@yahoo.com; pw = speakeasy)

>> The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years. "We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought. <<

It's long past time marijuana was put on the same basis as cigarettes and alcohol -- legally restricted to adults, but readily available (and taxable!) in stores. The amount of tax money (and law enforcement person-hours wasted) seeking out pot dealers and users, and the number of lives destroyed by the government's vendetta against weed, surpasses tragic ant enters the realm of the obscene. And, btw, I haven't had a "joint" in well over 20 years now, so this is not a matter of special personal interest.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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No, Dave thinks that. He stated so himself ...
May 29, 2006 1:13AM PDT

... and defended the position lest there be any misinterpretation of that ridiculous assertion!

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Ah yes,
May 28, 2006 8:46PM PDT

the "living" document theory

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What should they pay for?
May 28, 2006 10:28AM PDT

1. National defense
2. More national defense

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(NT) (NT) secure boarders
May 28, 2006 10:37AM PDT
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OK - no more medical research, no more space travel
May 28, 2006 10:43AM PDT

no more student aid or loans, no more helping the poor, no more roads or mass transit, no more radio, TV, cell phone regulation. Is the FDA in the constitution?

Diana

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Roads are legit ...
May 28, 2006 10:51AM PDT

... as are mass transit (although local governments should be involved). NPR is a waste of money. Regulation (to some degree) is a reasonable government function and expenditure. Subsidizing is not. All social programs should be scrapped on the federal level. Research has become so politicized that even if one believes funding research is legit, the way its funded is abominable. Give that to the free market. People will always invest in good ideas.

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Where does the consitution say the government
May 28, 2006 1:32PM PDT

should build roads or railroads or canals or airports.

Diana

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Interstate commerce clause
May 28, 2006 1:48PM PDT

Don't get me wrong, not saying that the government involvement hasn't extended far beyond what the framers intended.

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So, what are you saying?
May 28, 2006 11:37PM PDT

Just a guess: All roads/highways should beprivate and paid for by the public?

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Did you not understand what she said?
May 28, 2006 11:39PM PDT

The Constitution allows the feds to be involved in interstate transportation

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(NT) (NT) Thanks for making that clear to me.
May 28, 2006 11:43PM PDT
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Read the Constitution and tell me
May 28, 2006 11:57AM PDT

where medical research is part of the Federal government's responsibility

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This isn't even medical research
May 28, 2006 12:08PM PDT

It's propaganda. Regardless of one's position on the legality of drugs, whether or not MJ causes cancer is irrelevant.

Evie Happy

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Still, show me what is to be funded.
May 28, 2006 12:14PM PDT

It is a VERY short list

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"whether or not MJ causes cancer is irrelevant."
May 28, 2006 11:39PM PDT

Yes? Is that irrelevant? Not to me although I don't even smoke cigarettes stuffed with tobacco.

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Whether it is relevant to you or me is not the issue either
May 29, 2006 2:30AM PDT

If you have sufficient personal interest in the matter, donate to the David Geffen Medical Center. Why should taxpayers fund studies into whether or not those that are breaking the law are at increased risk for lung cancer? Think about that.

There is legitimate research to be done to see if certain canniboids can be helpful in certain diseases. Whether or not the federal government should be funding these studies aside, they WOULD be relevant. There seems to be a great deal of dishonesty among those touting ''medical marijuana'' who are really just for legalizing the drug altogether. That might be a valid position to take, but exploiting (and in many cases co-opting) the cause of those seeking relief doesn't reflect well on those doing so. If certain canniboids are useful, they should be pharmaceuticalized. Certain opiates are currently prescribed, we don't allow folks to turn their back yards into poppy fields!

MJ being illegal is based on the fact that THC is classified as a hallucinogen and is a Schedule I drug. This classification has NOTHING to do with ''general'' potential harms and everything to do with the balance of potential for addiction/abuse vs. medical benefit.

This study is irrelevant to the issues considered if MJ were to be rescheduled. Now if it's legalized for recreational use, I still don't think we need to study for every possible deleterious effect. Waste of limited resources.

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Bottom line...
May 29, 2006 2:47AM PDT

Why is there something like taxpayers at all? No one should have to be a taxpayer. It's a burden.

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(NT) (NT) Light finally dawns?
May 29, 2006 2:57AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) There you go Diana! I agree with you 100%!
May 28, 2006 10:25PM PDT
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Marijuana and even cigarette doesn't cause
May 28, 2006 5:58PM PDT

cancer or other directly...

It effect something... maybe... but like anything else, it always contribute to something.

All Government or any organization, Statements, Laws, Rules concerning something, always end up in concensus that directly based heavily on Politic and Money ... the research is just that .. a research.

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It seems to me that a lot of the posters
May 28, 2006 11:42PM PDT

have a "laizzes fair"-attitude.

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YES!
May 29, 2006 12:07AM PDT

"laissez faire, laissez aller, laissez passer," a French phrase meaning "let do, let go, let pass."

AKA...LIBERTY!

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I'm very worried,
May 29, 2006 12:11AM PDT

you know too much French

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or as Timothy Leary said
May 29, 2006 12:56AM PDT

turn on
tune in
drop out

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MJ probably doen't "cause" cancer
May 29, 2006 1:00AM PDT

but who argues against smoking in general as a "cause" (read contributing factor) of cancer...


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With my lung cancer
May 29, 2006 7:39AM PDT

one of the world leading cancer hospitals didn't blame my 3 packs of cigs a day for 50+ years as causing the cancer. They never said...course I didn't mention smoking some 'joints' some years back which would have made no difference.

Legalize MJ today, and I may smoke some more.

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Shooting yourself in the head doesn't cause cancer either..
May 29, 2006 2:22AM PDT

Doesn't mean you should do it.

I stopped years ago too, but I know a lot of people who didn't stop. There's no doubt in my mind that it is bad for your physical and mental health.

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Yah! Let's restrict it to adults just like we do with
May 29, 2006 4:18AM PDT

cigarettes and alcohol. Rriiigggghhhhhttttt! Just what we need! Even more impaired teens and adults driving vehicles around. Even more lives destroyed by drugs. That does sound like a good liberal idea. Let's all get high and have a good time. After all, no one gets hurt by any of this do they?

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Let me ask you KP....
May 29, 2006 5:08AM PDT

Do you think the statistics are too high today and you don't want to make them higher?

Well, if they're too high as it is, why not go into prohibition again and also ban all mindaltering drugs?

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LOL!!!
May 29, 2006 5:14AM PDT

Let's do that!!!! Good idea Devil