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And you guys say Bush isn't lying through his teeth.

by Ziks511 / May 2, 2005 5:45 PM PDT

"By now, every journalist should know that you have to carefully check out any scheme coming from the White House. You can't just accept the administration's version of what it's doing. Remember, these are the people who named a big giveaway to logging interests "Healthy Forests."

"Sure enough, a close look at President Bush's proposal for "progressive price indexing" of Social Security puts the lie to claims that it's a plan to increase benefits for the poor and cut them for the wealthy. In fact, it's a plan to slash middle-class benefits; the wealthy would barely feel a thing."


Let's not forget my personal favorite Bush terminological inexactitude (lie) this week harking way back to pre-election 2000: "No Child Left Behind". Yeah, right.

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This is getting so old, I can't
by Jerry562 / May 2, 2005 8:10 PM PDT

hardly read your anti-bush post anymore. Can I beg you to start working in a positive manner for the good of your own party?

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Got to give Krugman credit ...
by Evie / May 2, 2005 10:48 PM PDT

... for clever accounting to push an agenda.

The average worker - average pay now is $37,000 - retiring in 2075

Surely that's a typo! 2075??????? That's 2-plus DECADES after date that revenues would only be able to sustain 75% of benefits promised.

And shhhhhh, don't point out that 3X $37K = $111K which explains the lower cut in benefits as a percent of income.

What is your solution Mr. former Enron advisor? LOL

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Lies with numbers. The man is comparing income levels by
by Kiddpeat / May 3, 2005 12:23 AM PDT

calculating the benefit cut as a perecentage of preretirement income. So, a Cheney could have his benefit cut by 100%, but this guy would report the cut to be less than 1%. That's a lie.

Now Rob, you have indicated that your standard for for someone lying is that they be personally aware that their statements are not true. Let me ask you two questions.

1. Do you think that President Bush did the math and ascertained that what this NYT reporter is saying is true, and that he then said that the opposite is true?

2. Did you know that this NYT reporter was playing a numbers game, or that all such claims should be weighed against opposing points of view before reaching a conclusion?

Did you lie when you flatly accused President Bush of lying?

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