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And when we're done with ISIS

by Steven Haninger / March 28, 2016 2:23 AM PDT
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I dont know
by Femaleadda / March 28, 2016 3:57 AM PDT

how much time is it going to take? its spreading its roots in the minds of people.. whatever is happening.. when i read about it.. it seems like i am reading something from the time when hitler gained the power..
one religion better than the others.. despicable condition of people.. wars all around.. helping no one but a blind cause

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we may have to take steps that are repugnant
by James Denison / March 28, 2016 7:24 AM PDT

It may not be enough to threaten these terrorist since they've shown their acceptance to die with their bombs, so long as they can take others with them. Would they be so willing if they knew their families would then be gathered up and also destroyed by a bomb within their midst? Then they are not just destroying themselves but also their fathers, mothers, sisters, wives, children.

In the Bible we are told to not punish the father for sins of the son and vice versa, but that's as a nation, doesn't apply to war time situation. In fact, during war, often God demanded a genocide on some people. The most famous may be the one where Saul had been told to do such and he chose not to, so the prophet came, slew the foreign king himself, and then told Saul he'd lost his kingship and would be removed. What people were they dealing with then? The same type we see doing this in today's world.

At most, we need to contain this Islam the same way we fought and contained Communism. Ban it in our countries, and stomp on it everytime it wants to expand from it's own area give over to it.

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If it's true that the brainwashed ones
by Steven Haninger / March 28, 2016 7:53 AM PDT

consider other Muslims as martyrs who die as collateral damage, I don't think we're dealing with our own values. Haven't we read about mothers putting bomb vests on their own children. Perhaps these radical ones consider they'd be doing their own family a favor to have them die as martyrs. If that's the case, we cannot use christian values and arguments as a tool to convince them of anything. I agree that this will take something, as you say, "repugnant" to us but I don't think threatening their families will go far. They know it works on us westerners and have used that to their own advantage. I don't think it will work on them. The repugnant act just might be that we need to fight this in the way we approach cancer treatment. Killing the mother tumor alone doesn't work. It requires that every malignant cell needs to be neutralized in such a way that it cannot awaken and begin to reproduce itself again. It means that good tissue will also be sacrificed. It may take that approach to beat back ISIS and the like. I'm taught that an evil act is only justified if it countermands another evil or serves to prevent a greater one. The slaughter that happened yesterday and the reason for it might be enough to justify such an evil.

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we can't make them POW's and then release them
by James Denison / March 28, 2016 8:57 AM PDT

It seems many if not most go right back to what they were doing before, but with more "creds" to be leaders and respected after "suffering" in American prison, like Gitmo. We can't reform these people toward peace, or even restricting their fight against military and not innocent crowds. Seemingly just existing as someone not Muslim gives them the idea they can do what they want to such. Even Muslims that seem to want peace, are looked on as collaborators and become acceptable collateral damage in any area they want to set off a bomb. The only way to end it is to end all those who think that way, which means all such "fighters" rounded up need to be killed, not imprisoned and released. We aren't fighting a European type war where a war ends, POW's released and mostly it's over, finished.

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And when we're done with ISIS
by JennyBaron / April 1, 2016 2:47 AM PDT

I just read this answer from another forum and i think this is the right solution.

"To be really honest, I think the only way to do that is from within ISIS. There should be an internal rebellion or rather assassination of the top decision makers, and replaced by Muslims who are sincere. There are many sincere Muslims who joined ISIS for the promise of jihad and caliphate, only to find that they are surrounded by a khawarij ideology. They either run (some succeed others got killed by IS), just be silent and do their job, or try to do their part in doing some good. These people should gang up and do something about IS leadership. The problem will be to find someone with a lineage like Abu Bakar al-Baghdadi (which is not too hard to find) AND with similar credentials, to replace him."

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(NT) like replacing worse criminals with lesser criminals?
by James Denison / April 1, 2016 6:11 AM PDT
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Isn't that what we do all the time?
by Diana Forum moderator / April 3, 2016 11:54 AM PDT

Make a deal with a lower level criminal to get to a higher one?

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But do you think
by Femaleadda / April 6, 2016 4:10 AM PDT

thats really possible? I mean this group of people that you are talking about.. is a very small group..rebellion cant be done until the its more than half the people.. plus its not just that.. ISIS has support from outside too.. how would those terror sponsors react to this.. there are people who want unrest in the world.. they make their fortune off of that.. Its not just the muslims..

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