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Also amazing how low some folks will sink, trying to prove their superiority and walking all over others. Not giving a thought at all to their feelings or the fact that they too have a right to an opinion
Maybe we should be honest and admit we sometimes enjoy jumping into a nonsensical thread once in a while as a break from the gloom and doom we're facing from all fronts - the war, the flu, unemployment and disasters from all corners of the earth.
Since CNET is not generating any revenue with ads, there seems to be no reason to have many people posting tons of messages.
Seems like CNET does not need us.
Warm and inviting.
Indeed.
Merry Christmas CNET.
Since CNET isn't generating ads in the forums, lucky us with no pop-ups either, why not make CNET a Christmas present of voluntary donations from members???? Maybe they would be able to use the money to give us the features for this software that they can't afford........
TONI
If a member donated a big enough chunk of change, would that mean that said member would have enough clout to can any mod who is patently biased?
Probably safe to say that most members know that banning does not work, so you may want to save your money.
I'm comforted by the fact that I'm the only one in this thread to say "Merry Christmas CNET" whilst several other members seemingly find it amusing to bash a fellow member.
Real nice holiday spirit here.
Ever heard of those who don't stay with one ISP for the rest of their lives???
The POINT here, Mark, is, you CANNOT silence dissent.
You can try, but look what happened to the leaders in Iraq. Need I name more dictatorial regimes?
Period.
I wonder if Cnet banned an ISP if it would be just to the forums or to the entire cnet website?
While the number of participants in the forums using one particular ISP or sub-block of ISP might be limited, blocking the entire cnet web site would almost certainly block more.
Unfortunately, before it came to that as a pernament solution, I suspect Cnet would just close the troublesome forum, and any more than became involved.
So many people would end up losing.
roger
CNET PTB very nearly decided to not have the forums at all when they switched over to the new software....and it wasn't in order to kill the nation, Tim. The decision was based strictly on a financial angle....the forums bring in no revenue, and yet costs them by having to pay certain people to maintain them. Not just the technicians to keep them running, but also people like Lee Koo who oversee them.
When enough modalerts from the same people over and over and over show Lee who the town criers are, and that the same complaints are the same ones that were being made before from the same handful of people, Lee will make the decision that either this handful of people are the dissidents and trouble-makers and ignore them by leaving the 'handling' of them to the Moderators at SpeakEasy or he will make the decision to ban them again (repeatedly if necessary) like he did before.
Just because this is new software and everyone was given a second chance with a clean slate doesn't mean that everyone's 'history and pattern of behavior' didn't actually follow them....the names are known to Lee from before and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that some people just can't change and given enough rope will hang themselves every time.
If SpeakEasy goes down, it will be because a financial decision was made by TPTB that constant disruption just isn't worth the money it takes to try to get a handful of trouble makers to act civil and stop moderating the moderators. Same old, same old...find a new playground where you can spew the outrage you feel or sit your *** down and act like an adult.
TONI
problems going away' in a forum which moved such discussions to private threads.
I didn't notice less vituperation, I was subject to considerably more.
Ian
Literally: a slap across the face with a large fish. Effectively, a polite version of "BS".
The problem started in the public arena. The manager of the forum moved the discussion into a private area, at which point I abandoned the discussion. I didn't care less what the person said to me in private, after all, it was nothing much more than what had been emailed to me about my attitudes in Speakeasy. I cared very much when the slander/libel and abuse was happening in public view.
Ian
Hi, Blake.
>>DK has requested that everyone use it instead of responding publicly to the blatant crap. That way the moderators can stop a heated battle before it ever has a chance to get too over-heated.<<
That is not what I requested. We post our yahoo e-mail box address after our names so complaints and discussion can use that venue, and not bother the Moderators on the other 49+ CNet forums. If you want Lee to be aware of the discussion, just cc: him as well, and we'll "reply to all" on our replies.
-- Dave K.
Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com
The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!
#Other than the SE moderators, who else has access to the seamods4@yahoo.com account? You can claim that no other members have access, but why should anyone believe that claim#
Modalerts go to every Moderator on every forum, not just SpeakEasy and Lee. Modalerts are for complaints about spam, flaming, advertisements, etc.....however, there are NO other CNET members who hit that Modalert and abuse it by adding the comments/demands/insults to the Moderators. The ONLY members who do this are a few from SpeakEasy and they are all seen by all Moderators across the CNET forums....There are then emails from some of THOSE Moderators wondering why we are putting up with the crap that comes through on those alerts.
None have been sympathetic to your cause....they are all wondering why WE haven't done anything about having you all banned, to be honest. Whether you wish to believe that or not is up to you; however the Modalerts WORK.
All other Modalerts that come from other forums include a short explanation about the alert, such as "this is spam" or "these kinds of comments aren't necessary" etc. When we get a Modalert from one of you guys, it's a freaking book of comments and threats/demands and even if we agreed with you that a post should be removed, it is difficult to comply (even though we do most of the time) without choking on the knowledge that your smugness will believe that it was because of the threat/demand/comment rather than because we agreed with you.
As a member, I would think that your public whining would be an embarassment to you knowing that other Moderators from other forums can see the same crap coming from the same couple of people over and over. You may think that by continuing with the comments/demands/threats in the Modalerts that it's getting your message across, but all it's actually doing is red-flagging your names to everybody who gets them as constant complainers and cry-babies who can't just turn in a Modalert without being a baby about it.
TONI
Instead of BITCHING about the fact that the mod alerts from this forum are read by all mods, why don't you request of TPTB that the system be fixed the way you want it to be.
I see your complaining here, and the SAME freakin' complaint in at least one other of your posts, to be nothing more that mod WHINING.