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Amateur Film Maker Camera recommendations?

by Parody / November 21, 2006 1:31 AM PST

I'm looking to make a short film and would like to know the best camera to buy. I would like:

A camera that will create good quality using no artificial lighting other than standard lightbulbs in rooms.

Some shots will be outside at night so if possible the camera must have good night capabilities.

The best quality and resolution for the money.

A hard disk.

What do you guys think the best camera for the job I can get is for

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Then you need film.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 21, 2006 3:06 AM PST

Sounds pricey. Today's HD cameras need light. The only way I know of to get great shots without lighting is to use film.

They should have covered this area in class. Don't they anymore?


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What can I do?
by Parody / November 21, 2006 5:58 AM PST
In reply to: Then you need film.

What would be the cheapest option to light the scenes?

I don't want to have to use advanced lighting just to use a HD camera. Does the lighting really have that much difference with a HD camera? Remember this is amateur and not a Hollywood blockbuster, I just want to portray a story.

The only reason I wanted HD was so I could edit it on scene with my laptop and not have to go home and use the firewire port on my desktop computer then to transfer something only to find flaws or imperfections in the scene.

Is there any other alternative that will provide as much space on the camera and also no loss of quality over time?

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It's film.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 21, 2006 6:15 AM PST
In reply to: What can I do?

You did write about making a film so that's the right answer for this situation. After the film is processed then it's transferred to digital. Again, didn't they teach this in class?

I'm a little surprised about your statement of quality loss over time. Have you seen some of the masters? I just saw Woody Allen's Sleeper and it was just as great as it was 30 years ago. Wouldn't that be long enough?


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I realize this is a US store - I have every confidence...
by boya84 / November 21, 2006 9:59 AM PST
In reply to: What can I do?

similar deals can be found across the pond...;jsessionid=5tkgpScd9sU6Rkj8o6yIqg**.node1?cat=-47194&pType=pDisplay

For US$30 you can add FireWire to your laptop.

Definition heads up: HD as in "Today's HD cameras need light" I believe is "Today's High Definition cameras need light"... and they do, otherwise they get grainy/noisy (I use a Sony HDR-HC1). And at entry for the Canon HV10 at about US$1200, I think that is a little over your budget - but I don't know what

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I was just about to say....
by whizkid454 / November 21, 2006 10:12 AM PST

Thanks for clearing up the confusing abbreviation HD. Listen everyone just for future reference:

HD= High Definition

HDD= Hard Disk Drive

When these two are confused they create a bunch of misunderstandings.

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I've already said
by Kiddpeat / November 21, 2006 10:48 AM PST

drop the abbreviations. This is exactly the problem. Hi-def or hard drive don't take that long to type.

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so... just for the record,
by boya84 / November 21, 2006 10:14 AM PST

My paragraph about image quality and shelf life and all that pertains only to consumer/prosumer grade digital formats... I presume you are not in the market for a real film camera - your budget does not allow for that, plus the funding for transfer to digital, an off-board audio capture system, etc... that is a very expensive proposition - but is *the* best quality and longest shelf-life (like a big-screen movie) available.

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