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All the XP updates in one fell swoop. . .

Dec 14, 2003 10:08PM PST

I just bought my daughter a new Compaq with XP Home. She's on dialup and it will take forever to get all the updates. I have broadband and want to download the updates and burn them to CD. I thought there was a site where I could download the updates in one package (or several), but I'm having trouble finding them.

Any help would be appreciated.

Wayne

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Re:All the XP updates in one fell swoop. . .
Dec 14, 2003 10:16PM PST
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(NT) That's it, thanks
Dec 14, 2003 11:02PM PST

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Re:maybe it's just me, but i got this (XP SP1+Opera)
Dec 14, 2003 11:28PM PST
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/thanks.asp

Your requested page cannot be found


Try one of the following:

Refresh the page (click Refresh on your browser).
If you typed an address, make sure the punctuation and spelling are correct.

Select from any of the following pages for information about Windows Update services:

Windows Update Home Page
About Windows Update
Support Information

If you think you have received this page in error, send us your feedback.


You can also get online support if you are having problems with Windows Update.
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it's me ;-(, IE6 gets the M'soft page..NT
Dec 14, 2003 11:30PM PST

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But only for the computer used....
Dec 15, 2003 10:19PM PST

1. Downloaded files from the Microsoft Windows Update site cannot be installed on another computer, [Q283147]. When the Automatic Updates feature downloads an update, it is determined by the system connected to and by the Windows Update Catalog only.

2. Anyone care to state this isn't so? -- for future reference.

Bill Gaston

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The D/L from Windows Update Catalog can be used on any PC....
Dec 15, 2003 11:58PM PST

Bill,

Read the article carefully...
It rightly states that Critical updates downloaded using the Automatic Update feature cannot be reused on another PC.

That is why the article also points to Windows Update Catalog site that allows you to save any Updates onto your HDD for use in the future & on any PCs.

I've done this many times and it works.
This is particularly useful for network deployment or on PCs without Internet connection.
Especially so with SP1 which is a 133MB download for the full SP1.

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NT -- Thanks for pointing out that last sentence. I stopped reading to soon.
Dec 16, 2003 3:52AM PST

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Re:But only for the computer used....
Feb 3, 2004 2:45AM PST

Gee, I am glad I did not read this before updating my wife's PC with the updates automatically downloaded by Windows Update to my PC.
Listen, folks, I let Windows Update d/l to my PC but not install. When I am notified of a new d/l, I copy it to another folder for future use and eventually copy the folder to a CD. That way, if I ever have to reinstall Win, I don't have to d/l the whole mess again.

I run Win Update on my wife's PC to see what are the receommended updates for her PC. I then load the ones I have off the CD to her PC and download any others that her PC requires.

I suspect that what MS is really saying is that the listing of recommended updates will be different from PC to PC.

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Re:Re:All the XP updates in one fell swoop. . .
Feb 1, 2004 9:33PM PST

Regarding this, I have downloaded the updates for XP professional and installed them, but when I went to Windows update and it checked my pc, itshowed a lot of other updates which needed to be installed. Why is this?

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Just to be cautious.....
Dec 14, 2003 11:15PM PST

The article [Q325192] discusses and describes know issues that may occur after installing certain Updates to Internet Explorer or Windows.

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Re:Just to be cautious - I would be, but. . .
Dec 14, 2003 11:46PM PST

I can't get anything to download. I selected the updates, (about 40 Meg), clicked to select the HD folder, clicked to download, and it just sits there. I get the disclaimer to agree to, but then nothing. I close, go back in, try again, and nothing. It's like MS is putting the files together, but nothing happens.

I went to the laptop (wireless networked) and selected one file, WMP 9.0, and downloaded it with no problem. But trying to download all the updates at once chokes something.

Maybe I selected too many at once. I'll try again later and just do a few at a time.

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Re:Re:Just to be cautious - I would be, but. . .
Dec 15, 2003 12:27AM PST

I just went there and downloaded 57MB of data on a cable modem. No problem.

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Something's not right. . .
Dec 15, 2003 3:10AM PST

I've tried three times to download the updates. I can't even download one of them, much less the 43 Meg that I wanted. The download box opens and just sits there.

I've never had a problem with any other updates for this machine. I've not changed any settings either.

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Re:Re:Just to be cautious - I would be, but. . .
Dec 15, 2003 10:14PM PST

1. First, be sure that the date and time of your system is accurately set.

2. The article [Q811269] states that when you download a Microsoft Windows Update, the installation process may stop -- and the issue can occur if using the AOL Web browser interface but should this issue occur otherwise, is to clear your Internet Explorer temporary files and cookies and then remove the Windows Update temporary files.

3. If you use a Windows XP-based computer to connect to the Microsoft Windows Update site through an authenticating Web proxy that uses integrated (NTLM) proxy authentication, the connection may not succeed since the Update site uses ActiveX controls to determine which updates are installed and these ActiveX controls do not properly use HTTP keep-alive headers when IE is configured to use HTTP 1.0, [Q312955].

4. "Appendix B - Troubleshooting Strategy for resolving problems in Internet Explorer v6.x" -- heavy concerning ActiveX.

5. "Chapter 4 - Security Zones Internet Explorer v6.x" - TechNet article.

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Re:Re:Just to be cautious - I would be, but. . .
Feb 1, 2004 4:27PM PST

I had the same problem twice:
In each case the SP 1(extra) update package was attempted to be installed soon after a HD format -- so I was at odds.

I found out 2 things:
1- The 1st time there was a virus (worm) caused by the only software I installed after the formatting and reinstalling Windows XP home edition.

This caused me to reformat and play it safe.
The problem occured again after the 2nd formatting and reinstalling of Windows XP home Edition because I chose not to save the Service pack on my hard drive (My reasoning as to why I chose not to save it was because I did not want all that extra stuff in my computer taking up space considering that I would never want to uninstall it anyway-- it is needed for other updates.)
So how did I solve this problem? Strangely enough the 3d time around I chose to save the Service Pack to my HD afterall and the problem stopped. All went well.

The question remaining, and that I leave opened to all who would like to answer, is: Why does the SP-1 cause this problem when it's not saved to disk-- and could the back-up (not the SP) and all its folders and sub-folders be removed safely after installtion?

Thank you

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Re:Re:Re:Just to be cautious - I would be, but. . .
Feb 2, 2004 3:49AM PST
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Windows Update CD?....
Dec 15, 2003 1:16AM PST
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Wayne, You can also D/L XP Updates using Mozilla from here....
Dec 16, 2003 12:19AM PST
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Thanks David, it works there. . .
Dec 16, 2003 6:35AM PST

with Mozilla. But I'm stumped as to why it won't work with IE.

You once gave me a link for repairing some files using regsvr32 to repair several dll files. It worked, but I've gone blank as to why I used it. Can you enlighten me? Was it for the same type of problem? I haven't run it yet, just trying to remember what that problem was.

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I just posted the article on this thread...
Dec 16, 2003 6:42AM PST
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(NT) That's what I was looking for, I'll let you know.
Dec 16, 2003 8:38AM PST

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No joy. . .
Dec 16, 2003 9:14AM PST

Re-registered all the files. Verified the registry entries were correct.

This is something new. I've been able to get updates from day one. I haven't installed any software or hardware in weeks. I can browse sites, windows open properly.

I just verified my security settings and they haven't changed.

Now I'm concerned.

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Try the following...
Dec 16, 2003 9:27AM PST
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(NT) Also have you deleted all your Temp Internet Files??
Dec 16, 2003 9:28AM PST

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Already tried SFC. . .
Dec 16, 2003 10:42AM PST

Took almost thirty minutes.

No problems, no joy.

Emptied cache/temp files.

No joy.

I can download anything from anywhere. But when I try the update, the download/installing window pops up, but nothing happens.

I turned off all firewalls and pop-up stoppers, no joy.

The only thing I can think of is that about two weeks ago I installed a new CD RW drive (Sony 52/24/52) and the software.

I haven't tried updating in a while because I read the updates several times a week and they don't pertain to me. Microsoft scans my PC and recommends updates. This part works. Now I see a couple of updates I want and the damn thing won't work.

I'll use the link you provided above and use Mozilla.

If you think of a magic fix, holler at me.

Thanks for trying,

Wayne

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Wayne, here's the fix...
Dec 16, 2003 11:02AM PST

Windows Updates hang on downloading stage:

After accepting the EULA, the Windows Update - Web Page Dialog window appears but the download never starts.
Nothing "moves" on the download progress bar, no matter how long you leave the connection open.

Resolutions:
Please re-register the following files:
regsvr32 msscript.ocx
regsvr32 dispex.dll
regsvr32 vbscript.dll
regsvr32 scrrun.dll

1. Click "Start," and then click "Run."
2. Type regsvr32 msscript.ocx in the "Open" box and click "OK."
3. Repeat for dispex.dll,vbscript.dll, and scrrun.dll.

Next, make sure file (open) type .JS is properly associated:
1. In Control Panel, click "Folder Options," and then click "File Types."
2. Locate the .JS extension and click "Advanced."
3. Make sure the "Application to perform action" field contains: C:\WINDOWS\System32\WScript.exe "%1" %*
This is for a Windows XP computer. For Windows 2000 substitute the C:\WINDOWS\ with C:\Winnt\.
For Windows 98 and Windows Millenium Edition substitute this: C:\WINDOWS\System\ for C:\Windows\system32.

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Re:All the XP updates in one fell swoop. . .
Dec 16, 2003 10:55AM PST

Afternoon Wayne, Tom Bostock on this end. Somehow I have this idea that MS do not want you to have your cake and eat it. Tried a similar foray last year but the wheels fell off. All I wanted was one small group of updates but had to settle for doing them piecemeal.
Wish you better luck than I had. Seasons greetings & there is still nothing wrong with a twisted pair!

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Re:All the XP updates in one fell swoop. . .
Dec 16, 2003 10:57AM PST

Afternoon Wayne, Tom Bostock on this end. Somehow I have this idea that MS do not want you to have your cake and eat it. Tried a similar foray last year but the wheels fell off. All I wanted was one small group of updates but had to settle for doing them piecemeal.
Wish you better luck than I had. Seasons greetings sunshine!

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David, I owe you a cold beer. . .
Dec 16, 2003 11:25PM PST

Reregestering those file types did it.

Thanks!

And thanks to the others who chimed in! You all gave me something to investigate, all good information.

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You're welcome Wayne. Glad it worked.
Dec 17, 2003 12:03AM PST

But it's too cold here & snowing...so cold beer's out! LOL!

Cheers.