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All of a sudden losing ram to something unlisted win95B

by MK / June 9, 2004 7:46 AM PDT

Win95b 233mhz 345MB ram 60GB HD
Computer working well when all of a sudden( for about a week now), there is not enough ram available for most programs
use rambooster and it often shows 15MB or 0MB when before it showed 256MB or more consistently.
Tried ad- aware and deleted cookies.
Ran Spybot S&D and deleted cookies.
Ran AVG but could not get it finished due to lack of Ram showing
Mouse jumps around. Got new mouse. This ocassionally stops and everything is fine for a few minutes and then it starts up again with freezes and rebooting necessary. When I do ctrl-alt-del, there are no additional items listed...just antivirus, firewall etc. Help appreciated or at least the right direction to look in.
M

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No fix available.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 9, 2004 8:08 AM PDT

"Windows 95 leaks about 200 bytes of main memory for each thread creation. Each connection in MySQL creates a new thread, so you shouldn't run mysqld for an extended time on Windows 95 if your server handles many connections! Other versions of Windows don't suffer from this bug."
- http://mysql.mirrors.key2network.com/doc/mysql/en/Windows_vs_Unix.html

Microsoft has no plans to fix this issue. In 1995 to 1998, the Internet wasn't a big deal and this memory leak went unnoticed. Now it shows up with firewalls (on 95) and other IP applications.

Again, no cure is known to exist.

Bob

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Re:All of a sudden losing ram to something unlisted win95B
by Cursorcowboy / June 9, 2004 8:15 AM PDT
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why 95B???? reduce ram
by reefurbb / June 13, 2004 11:32 PM PDT

You are so ripe for Win98se. I took my PC up to 128mb 72 pin ram and it ran worse. Back to 64mb, runs fine. Pull out some ram!!! Win will use a % of ram, no matter how large amount you have, but it takes time to pipeline stuff through it. maybe you're running out of virtual mem? If you had Norton Utilities 2001 (last workable for w95) you could watch the processor useage and free ram change as you turn something off. There is an msconfig for w95 so you can see startup stuff,161kb. email me reefurbb@yahoo.com...

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Re: why 95B???? reduce ram
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 13, 2004 11:59 PM PDT
In reply to: why 95B???? reduce ram

reefurbb,

I checked your posts at http://cma.zdnet.com/texis/forums/search.html?q=reefurbb and you never revealed which machine did this slowdown. There were some Intel based chipsets and Pentium 1's that slowed as you went past 64 megabytes(MB), but that was not any effect of Windows but a hardware design issue. The L2 Cache memory was only in effect up to the 64 MB address. In those dated machines, 64 MB was very expensive and the chipset designers didn't see this as a problem.

Newer chipsets moved that address limit up and then with the P2 and forward CPUs, the L2 cache moved in the CPU so the issue and slowdown vanished.

If you want, your post with the email addresses can be deleted upon your request.

Bob

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Re: All of a sudden losing ram to something unlisted win95B
by Kees Bakker / June 14, 2004 4:13 AM PDT

- First see if it's something unlisted:
Run wintop from the Windows 95 kernel toys; this shows the running programs (and their CPU usage); download the package from http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/contents/WUToys/W95KernelToy/Default.asp.
- What is/are the exact error message(s)?
- Did you run interactive virusscan from housecall.antivirus.com
- Enough free space on the disk for virtual memory? No limit in Config Panel>System>Performance?
- Does system monitor (that's c:\windows\sysmon.exe) show anything unexpected with regards to usage of RAM or virtual memory?
- What's the use of rambooster if you've got 345 Mb RAM? What happens if you deactivate it?


Kees

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