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Forget Alienware please !!!!
They have the poorest after sale service. Dell is fine and take a look also to the HP Pavilion dv4000 or the Hp Pavilion dv50000t. The dv4000 has a powerful ATi Mobility Radeon X700 and the dv50000t has a wonderful nVIDIA nforce 4 graphic chipset with a GeForce Go 7800 graphic controller. Very nice to play games.
Unfortunately, the Dv4000 no longer comes with
the X700 GPU, in fact today the HP web site only shows it to me available with Intel graphics...HP must have a new model about to launch that has the more powerful graphics package because they now only offer the ATI 200m.
Alienware... you'd be wise to do a search on this forum Alienware before buying one...lots of horrorshows out here about Alienware support (and although I'm not a Dell fan, their high end machine will do all you want for a lot less dough).
Get a Dell
To make this simple...if you want to have an incredible gaming laptop, with tons of cash to burn, get the Alienware. If you want to save some money, and still have a very, VERY good laptop for gaming, get a Dell XPS2.
It just comes down to how much are you willing to spend on.
i think that the money factor is really important becuase i was looking and the xps notebooks seem to be less then the alienware. but on the other hand the alienware notebook you can have a 3.8 ghz pentium 4 processor with ht instead of the 2.6 ghz for the xps with the pentium m. the only other difference is the dual hard drives, dual dvd rw drives and the 3gb of ram instead of only 2. which funtions better? also which proccessor work better also because you can either get the intel or the amd? also has dell bought alienware because their web pages look strikingly alike? hmmmm... also what is better nvidia or ati?
Better off with a Dell
Yes, Alienware does have P4, however its a desktop version. Dell now offers laptops with the Intel Duo processors. Which, in theory, will process more efficiently than the P4. with that in mind, should be better off in terms of gaming. Also, the Intel Duo is better (battery wise = 3+Hrs) as the P4 is a power hog and thus your laptop will not survive beyond 1.5 hours of battery power.
If you are really interested in dual hard drives, I would say don't waste your money on that. Just order one with a large primary hard drive. (Less things to fail if you run into an issue.)
In terms of performace, its a toss up now if you want either Intel or AMD. Intel Duo or (in May) AMD Turion 64 x2. But Dell only has Intel Procs.
Both Dell and Alienware has Dual DVD burners, so the choice is yours.
No, Dell did not buy out Alienware.
In my experience, for todays graphical cards, I go with NVidia. NVidia process 3D better for smoother animation. ATI seems to look alittle 'fuzzy'.
Hope that this help.
thanks everybody! you guys have convinced me and i have decided to go with the dell. xps2 i think. i also want to get one of those finger print bimetric lockouts that fit in the pci slot so if you have any favorites or comments please reply. But thanks again for everything! I'M GETTIN' A DELL!
I take that back, Dell is buying Alienware
Just read an article..http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/dell_alienware_dc, today that Dell is buying out Alienware so that Dell can get into the gaming market. However, theye will leave Alienware as it is, for now, but they are being bought out.
Reading on this site and the Tom's Hardware site it has been proven without a doubt that AMD processors are above and beyond anything Intell has. Dell only uses intell and has bought alienware to sell products with AMD processor
P-Ms rated at 2.6 will run rings around a P4 rated
at 3.8. A P-M's rating should be multiplied by about 1.6 to get the equivilant in a P4. P-4's run hot, consume lots of power and generally suck as notebook processors.
Dell all the way
The dell xps m170 is better all round than the alienware and cheaper too.
Also the XPS comes with its own support section dedicated to XPS users.
I'm getting a dell very soon and i cant wait ^_^
hey you people who love dell. i am assuming that you have already seen the new XPS renigade. that looks ******* awesome. well i suggest that you sign up to be posted about the drawing for one of the two they are giving away april tenth. i signed up and I WILL WIN! i have to beleive it for it to come true. fingers crossed.
Alienware vs anything else == anything else
I'm not a Dell lover but I'd go with Dell rather than Alienware. That's the worst $3000 I've ever spent. Not the notebook but the customer service's quality is just a joke.
HP all the way!!
Have had about 10 laptops thru the years and have to say, HP is best. No doubt. No problems, Customer?tech support are fast and effecient.
I sure agree with you - wifes has all HP - desktop - printer etc. Not that many problems but if one they slove it quick. My only problem is that they dont have the AMD 4400 processor in their 8000's series laptops. As soon as they do I am buying one.
For as long as I've been in the IT feild, I have always been using HP products, and to be very honest, I have never met an HP product that I hated. Been through three HP laptops, and countless printers. All within acceptable parametes...=) Even my new 17" laptop is an HP, the new (or was new) dv8000z. Always have been with HP, always will.
DELLS VERY POOR CUSTOMER SVC
With the super poor customer service I can not see how anyone can recommend Dell unless they can or know someone to repair it. The outsourcing of customer service has led to individuals that speak english but dont understand the meaning of words. They Never returns calls with real information (41 trys 4 me).
Dells customer service
I have 2 desktops and one laptop, all from Dell. I have never, in 7 years, had any problems with Dell's customer service. I agree that we are sometimes connected to a person who doesn't speak or understand much english. That's when I ask to speak with a supervisor. No problem, issue resolved.
Poor is an understatement
I wish i would have known that dell used outsourcing in India.
Even when you speak to a supervisor i think i used "repeat" and "what did you say?" every other sentence.After they assured me i would get a refund i look at my account 3 months later i still havew no refund!
I just made a complaint with the dept of consumer affairs.
Dell has the worst Customer service
If you open a dell preferred account BEWARE! make sure you check your statement.I ordered my first and last Dell in december 2005. When it arrived The preinstalled software was in conflict with the MS media center edition o/s. I spent over 6 hours with customer service/support in 2 days and after reconfig numerous times support states there is nothing thay can do.
Needless to say after another 3 1/2 hours on the phone i was to send back the computer and was charged $145.00 to my account for software support !!
3 months later i am still trying to get a refund. Oh did i mention i signed up for the preffered account because it was SUPPOSED to be 0% interest.
They ended up trying to charge me 11% !!
Poor Customer Service
If you want a Dell thats fine, but be prepared for long phone chats with someone from India if something goes wrong with you Notebook...
Same with HP, and Compaq as my step-mother just had to replace her Hard Drive and she needed disks and it wasnt easy with HP CS...