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Al Gore's son arrested for drug possession again.

Jul 4, 2007 7:45AM PDT

On the positive side, he was driving a hybrid.

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I didn't think a Prius could go 100 mph! Must have been downhill.


--Ed, the cartoonist who thinks he is a thinker!

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Also, driving at 100 mph...
Jul 5, 2007 1:07AM PDT

on public streets, most likely while intoxicated, is a serious matter.

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(NT) Never denied that it was, did I?
Jul 5, 2007 1:22AM PDT
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Didn't say you did...
Jul 5, 2007 1:50AM PDT

just pointing out an important fact that you neglected to mention.

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(NT) So noted. I did not mention it.
Jul 5, 2007 2:00AM PDT
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Ah, now we should look at the facts?
Jul 5, 2007 1:20AM PDT

In the Libby case the fellow is not guilty because you say so? Where are the facts there? We had a recent discussion where judicial "mistakes" were "regrettable" but the state bore no responsibility. Lets just agree to view Libby as a "mistake" for convenience sake. It's not like he has to do the time or pay the fine now anyway, and we all think he will be pardoned at the end of the 18 months.

The viagra case was just foolish, vain stupidity on that fellows part. But it was drugs that were involved and there was no prescription. Why should a man who called for zero tolerance when it comes to drug abuse be shown... tolerance? I detest a double standard.

Look, each side has their favorites. Me, I could care less when it comes to drugs and criminal sentencing unless the crime involves violence or danger to others. I'm more concerned about treatment and future prevention.

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What does 'Libby' have to do with Gore's kid?
Jul 5, 2007 1:23AM PDT

or is this just a political post?

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You might notice I never said it did.
Jul 5, 2007 1:29AM PDT

So why are you asking me?

Try reading a thread before posting.

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That's funny!
Jul 5, 2007 2:10AM PDT

You mention Libby in a thread on Gore's kid,

then you say you didn't! That's quite a feat!

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Your argument is contrived.
Jul 5, 2007 2:28AM PDT

Reread the thread. Even Ed points out that JP was the one who mentioned him first.

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I continue to be AMAZED! 'Bill' never mentioned 'Libby'.
Jul 5, 2007 3:05AM PDT

YOU did! Contrived? That gives the word new meaning.

I suggest that you follow your own advice. Reread the thread.

ROTFLMA!

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Ask Bill...
Jul 5, 2007 1:47AM PDT

He dropped the line into the water.

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(NT) Sub thread closed!
Jul 5, 2007 4:14AM PDT
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Everybody knows...
Jul 5, 2007 1:44AM PDT

that a prosecutor can get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich. Libby "lied" about when he didn't do something he was not charged with doing. Anyone who talks to the Feds can be charged with something at the whim of the prosecutor and a jury can always be fooled.

It was purely political, as you probably know. It is my opinion that he was innocent, and the victim of a witch hunt. Hope he gets a pardon.

I do believe if you look back on that Viagra case you will find that the DA or Sheriff or whoever involved, admitted that no crime was committed. I distinctly remember that at the time I suggested that those who hysterically claimed it was a crime should apologize.

Them's the facts.

You imply in your subject line that I don't always look at the facts. I do.

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Technically...
Jul 5, 2007 1:58AM PDT

... statements made by "DA or Sheriff or whoever involved"... (whoever?)... could be considered facts of stated opinion if they are on the public record. It's just that when you are the DA or the Sheriff then your opinion is the one which counts. Happy

The "prosecutor" and "grand Jury" discourse is an indictment of the legal system but not necessarily "fact" as you put it. If true then every legal decision ever made under this system should be called into question. Is that what you are saying? That every prosecution made by the Grand Jury system is questionable?

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Is that what you are saying?
Jul 5, 2007 2:05AM PDT

No. What I said was what I am saying. It is quite clear. No need to muddy the waters.

No more. Bye.

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(NT) This sub thread is closed !!!
Jul 5, 2007 4:13AM PDT
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I guess DUI at 100mph is OK with you.
Jul 5, 2007 1:22AM PDT

As long as a bigwhig Democrat's kid is doing it.

Interesting MODERATE view on life.

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When did I say that KP? When?
Jul 5, 2007 1:27AM PDT

You infer I said it, now prove it.

What's that? You can't.

So why the flame KP?

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Prius going 100 was a surprise to me.
Jul 4, 2007 8:25AM PDT

Politician's kids partying is not.

What ever happens let us hope the kid gets his life straightened out. At 24 he is getting a bit too old for this kind of behavior to be written off as youthful indiscretion.

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Looks like he was just 5 MPH
Jul 4, 2007 8:53AM PDT
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Not too bright.
Jul 4, 2007 9:10AM PDT

Use drugs while recklessly driving a car. Kind of like flashing an arrest me sign on the car's roof.

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Intelligence has nothing to do with it....
Jul 5, 2007 1:53AM PDT

....if you have a drug problem.

Driving too slowly is also a red flag for impaired drivers by the way. It's called overcompensating. That's what Bush was doing when he was arrested for DUI. Wink

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Took you long enough...
Jul 5, 2007 2:07AM PDT

to bring up Bush.

Who won the pool?

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My BIL's parents used to live in Vermont...
Jul 5, 2007 2:17AM PDT

... and often vacationed in Kennebunkport in the 60's and 70's. They have an interesting, eye witness story to tell about a certain restaurant bar patron and his arrival, extended patronage, and departure. I've heard the story several times and the details stayed the same so I assume it was fairly accurate. Let's leave it with "Dad" had to drive the car home... but he didn't drive the car there.

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And that bit of hearsay is relevant how?
Jul 5, 2007 2:49AM PDT

What happened to "looking at the facts"?

Just wondering.

By the way, note that if it was Teddy Kennedy he would have been driving BOTH ways.

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LOL, that's why I don't live in Mass or DC!
Jul 5, 2007 3:00AM PDT

As for the other bit? It's anecdotal but it does illustrate the point that one can deal with these issues on a case by case basis... but if one begins to claim nepotism or special treatment as an unfair advantage then one should remember that it isn't just right or left that commits such acts.

What was it you said the other day? He who is without sin...?

Consistency in committing such acts is extremely serious and increases risk of harm to others but doing drugs and driving even once can be just as risky. Let's treat each one of these cases seriously but let's not kid ourselves and pretend that people on both sides of the political spectrum haven't benefitted from their connections.