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Adventures in eminent domain

Nov 21, 2003 6:32AM PST

Ah, eminent domain, the system by whuch government steals, er, appropriates, er, uh, obtains land from those greedy, er, selfish, er, uh, civic awareness challenged among the population!

This should give Gov. Ahnold reason to wonder if it isn't too late to change his mind: Fresno businessman finds school erroneously built on his property:

A 10,000-square-foot mistake led contractors to build part of a new county-operated school on property owned by a Fresno businessman.

But instead of fixing the mistake, the county schools office plans to use a legal maneuver to force the landowner to sell the property.

Businessman Willard Eisner says he returned from a Hawaiian vacation last summer to a message on his answering machine. An official from the San Joaquin County Office of Education had some bad news: A construction team had accidentally built part of a new school on land Eisner owns and is leasing to a car dealership on East Hammer Lane near Tam O'Shanter Drive.

Eisner told the county office to move the building. But the county said it was too late, and now it plans to take the land by using eminent domain -- its power as a government agency to take the land and pay Eisner the market price.


And Mr. Eisner's reaction: Tear down the damn school!

A group of Valley landowners wants to demolish part of a new school that was accidentally built on their property, their attorney said Thursday.

The landowners, Willard Eisner of Fresno and his business partners, also have sued the county schools office, a construction company and the architect who designed the building, seeking damages for trespassing, fraud and conspiracy, attorney Roger Stewart said.

Eisner, who owns a 60,000-square-foot lot in the 800 block of East Hammer Lane, next week will ask a judge's permission to destroy a 10,000-square-foot portion of a school that the San Joaquin County Office of Education accidentally built on his property.


Just one question: Does the San Joaquin County Surveyor still have his job - and if so, why?

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I've got a better one for you:
Nov 21, 2003 9:15AM PST

About 3 - 4 years ago, the Minister for Lands, who is responsible for all land titles registrations in QLD, OZ, sold the vacant block of land next to his home.

After the sale was settled, the new owner paid for an up to date property survey. To evereyone's astonishment, the Minister hadn't sold the vacant bloack of land at all - nup - he'd sold the property with his house on it!!

The courts upheld the sale - all paperwork regarding property identification and title deeds had been presented and handled in accordance with law, and the Minister had to move out.

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Ian

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BWAHAHAHAHA!
Nov 21, 2003 9:22AM PST

He literally sold his house out from under him? That's hilarious!

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Sounds unreal. Doesn't intent figure in here anywhere?
Nov 21, 2003 1:39PM PST

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Speaking of houses reminded me of something. Ian, in the old forum you told a story that involved I think your parents and a house they purchased that was to be moved. The movers didn't get a permit and while moving it in the middle of the night were stopped by the police and made to unload the house on the nearest available vacant property. What ever happen to that house? I have been wondering about it all this time!

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It took two years, but eventually
Nov 21, 2003 4:56PM PST

the house was delivered and reconstructed.

Unfortunately, Mum didn't get much time to enjoy it.

Yhe idiot house mover left all his special 12 inch by 12 inch by 40 foot boards and other equipment on Mum and Dad's land. They finally gave up 'phoning him to vollevt it, and sent it all to the dump.

Ian

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(NT) vollevt = collect?
Nov 21, 2003 5:13PM PST

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Yeah, well you know the c and v are right next to each other.
Nov 21, 2003 6:11PM PST

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In the dark they look alike. LOL

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I was thinking he was a touch typist...
Nov 21, 2003 6:18PM PST

but then the 'e' should have been an 'r' and the 't' a 'y' if the left hand was place on the wrong keys...

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do vlrbrt kriyh, uou gihutrf iy ouy
Nov 21, 2003 6:55PM PST

so clever keith, you figured it out

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Re:do vlrbrt kriyh, uou gihutrf iy ouy
Nov 22, 2003 6:58AM PST

Don't you mean...
do vlrbrt Kriyh, you gihutrf iy ouy

The real 'y' is on the right hand and wouldn't change. Happy

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NT unvanny how cery vorrevt you van be :-))
Nov 21, 2003 6:19PM PST

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Thanks, Ian, I told my neighbor about your story and she wanted to know
Nov 21, 2003 6:15PM PST

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what eventually happen to the house. Of course I didn't know but said I would find out. I kept forgetting about it and she has asked several times. She will be so glad to know that your parents did finally get their house!

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Re:Adventures in eminent domain
Nov 21, 2003 9:57AM PST

Should also sue the county and the title company because both are supposed to sign off on the building every step of the way.

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Re:Adventures in eminent domain
Nov 21, 2003 6:46PM PST

The Houston school district (HISD) has thousands of acres that it has "taken" by eminent domain and most of it is unused. They even have some that are on historical sites and can't build anything so it just sits there collecting things -- like drug paraphernalia. Most of their property is just up in weeds Sad

The ones that really irk me is what I have been seeing in the news in other places where towns have taken property and turned it over to businesses like Wal*Mart so they can increase the towns tax base Sad

The greater good? Yeah! Right!

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Is that an example of trickle down economics? LOL
Nov 21, 2003 8:22PM PST

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Ah, just a question: Where was the owner of the land when this was in progress ?
Nov 21, 2003 8:37PM PST

Don't suppose the wait was intentional, do you??

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He was on vacation. LOL Must have been some vacation! (NT)
Nov 22, 2003 3:53AM PST

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Re:probably sitting there watching his land appreciate in value?
Nov 22, 2003 4:06AM PST

if i was into weird scenarios, i would say:
A: he will rent the land to the school, or,
B: he owns the company that will be called in to pull it all down...

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Re:Re:probably sitting there watching his land appreciate in value?
Nov 22, 2003 7:00AM PST

I think he will settle for more than market value. Wink