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Adobe Photoshop Elements 3. OEM???

Jun 25, 2005 3:29PM PDT

I found an ad from an online retailer for "Adobe Photoshop Elements 3.0" OEM for $19.95.

What does OEM imply?

In bold letters was also"Registration not included".
What does that mean? Are there additional costs or problems involved?

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Pirated
Jun 25, 2005 10:47PM PDT

Sounds like pirated software. OEM stands for Other Equipment Mfgr. and relates to software included with equipment purchase. You wouldn't be able to register it if in fact it even would open after loading.
Bob

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(NT) (NT) Thank You
Jun 26, 2005 7:38AM PDT
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OEM
Jun 29, 2005 3:57PM PDT

usually stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer, not Other. Photo Impressions was free from Adobe a few years ago. $19.95 sounds right.
Go to Adobe and check out the price. May be $39 from Adobe.
Canon has Photoimpression for editing photos also. Comes with the software for the camera. Have never checked it out. I use Adobe Photoshop.

Kevin

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Photoshop Elements
Jun 29, 2005 4:13PM PDT

is what I ment to say from Adobe, not Impression. Sorry for the confusion. Late at night. I had signed up for the original offering of Elements from Adobe on my PC some five years ago and it was free. Never used it. Simple photo editing program for the general public to use.
On my Mac I use Adobe Photoshop.
The offer for $19.95 may be good and not pirated.
Like I said before, go to Adobe.com and check out the price.

Kevin

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Thank you, but ...?
Jun 30, 2005 1:41AM PDT

I was more curious about the phrase "Registration not included" in bold letters. This is from an online software retailer with good credentials.

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Registration Not Included
Jun 30, 2005 2:00PM PDT

Dromel, Wonder why registration is not included? New one to me. I do remember that I registered with Adobe because I used to get a newsletter about the Elements software. It was the early original version back about four years ago. Not V3 as it now. Who was the trusted supplier?
Limited version?
We all can go to Adobe and download all their software for a FULL tryout version. The only thing that you cannot do with any tryout is to do a SAVE!
I will go to Adobe and see what is with the latest version of Elements. Maybe good if you do not want to spend $$$ for Photoshop. I will let you know.

Kevin

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Adobe Photoshop Elements.3
Jun 30, 2005 2:29PM PDT

Dromel, Went to adobe.com to find out about Elements V3.
Top new features:
?Brush away flaws
?Easily adjust shadows and highlights
?View before and after
?Get high quality with camera raw and 16-bit support
?Enjoy flexible print options
?Instantly improve photos
?See the full color range
?Click away red eye
?Add decorative edges
?Divide scanned photos

Download version for Mac & PC is $79.
CD versions are $89.

There are many features from Photoshop in Elements. Does look very good for the majority of edeting use. And, will save you $$$ from purchasing Photoshop CS.

The original $39 offer from a good supplier is not that far off from Apple. Still cannot figure out why you cannot register it with Apple. Try asking Apple.

Amazon had a special promo going for Apple 10.3 TIGER X software at $100 before the release. Apple charges $129. Try Amazon and get a price for Elements. It will be less expensive than Apple and with a CD version.
Hope that I helped you out a little.

Kevin

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Here's the link, judge for yourself
Jun 30, 2005 2:43PM PDT
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Kinda strange...definately pirated
Jul 2, 2005 1:33PM PDT

First, I'd like to note that this software is definately pirated, and thus illegal.

Key signs:
* Unusually cheap price...you can find software discounted, but if it sounds too good to be true, it is.
* Not listed as a legitimate distributor/partner of Adobe, yet is selling the software in bulk.
* Cannot register the software. You can register ALL legal software, including OEM versions. If the manufacturer usually has you register their products and the distributor states that you can't with their product, there is a reason.
* No box or user manuals included. They are simply burning copies of a disk they have and may or may not be making the disks look real.
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I looked into the site, and found something a little odd. It is registered to Jim Polkowske of Herndon, VA, and owned by SoftwareDiner.com, also based out of Herndon, VA. However, the servers are actually in France. (See Netcraft's data sheet on the website.) Then, on the site itself, it directs all mail to Chandler, AZ.
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A few lines copied from their site:

1. "What are the limitations of not being able to register my product?

The only limitiations in some instances is that you can not update your product. Not being able to register has nothing to do with unlocking the full program. All of our programs provide everything you need to fully unlock the product."


This implies that the CD they ship contains their own program, which will "unlock the product." In other words, they aren't hacking the software themselves, they are giving you the hacking tools they created and letting you do it yourself. (Once less crime they can be sued for, but you can. Wink)

2. "Why is product registration not included with a particular product?

Certain distributors don't support this feature pertaining to a particular product because of the low cost that we receive the items at."


Bull! Registration is a part of the software the manufacturers designed. You can't register it because it has been hacked/cracked...and thus illegal.
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Finally, the English is fairly good, but grammer is slightly off throughout the sight...not indicative of a high-quality business, and possibly indicating that they are not native speakers (explains why the server is in France).

Hope this helps,
John

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Thanks John
Jul 2, 2005 2:21PM PDT

Thanks John. Your post confirmed my suspicions. Always good to have a second view.

Thanks again, but I have to go now. The widow of a former South American finance minister wants me to help her move several million dollar$ out of her country, AND she is willing to pay me to help. All I have to do is ......

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Millions
Jul 2, 2005 5:47PM PDT

Me too. Weird scams.

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Pirated
Jul 2, 2005 5:44PM PDT

Nice post. Great information concerning piracy.
Adobe want to know about this. Send them an email.

Kevin

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Link
Jul 2, 2005 5:36PM PDT

What a strange link. Also incuded Red Nova as a pop-up. What is that all about?

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Piracy
Jul 2, 2005 6:21PM PDT

Link reported to piracy@adobe.com

Check out the Adobe site and ask questions if in doubt about one of their products. Adobe is a great web site for information, help tips and tech help for their software.

Kevin

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More piracy
Jul 2, 2005 8:23PM PDT

Just ran across a pirated version of Photoshop CS, will report it to Adobe. Thanks for the link.
Non

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Piracy
Jul 3, 2005 1:28PM PDT

Bob, Not just Adobe. Look at the past links. Just about every software imaginable.
One word of caution going to that past link. I had a pop-up from Turkey.
Hope not a virus for some of you.

Report all Adobe piracy to piracy@adobe.com. Interestingly enough, adobe will contact you with a personal message. Not a form message thanking you. You will see it!

I was working in Boston a long time ago as an Art Director when Adobe had an open house to show off the software for ADOBE Photoshop and Illustrator as well as Adobe Reader and PDF format. Happened to meet the founder of Adobe. He was a programmer and his wife was a Graphic Artist. She wanted to do something that did not exist. He wrote the program to help her out and the program (Incapsulated Postscript File) and software.
Kind of neat to meet a person like that and admire his accomplishments. Adobe. The greatest! :

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