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RE: no class?.......Netanyahu?

Isn't he the one that used an Oval Office meeting in 2011 to lecture Obama on Jewish history?

Obama, Netanyahu seek to get past Iran differences

Netanyahu's strident complaints about U.S. policy on Iran in mid-September plunged U.S.-Israeli relations into crisis, but also spurred a backlash at home and in the U.S. media for seeming to meddle in American politics.

In recent days, the Israelis have sought to dial down the rhetoric, culminating in Netanyahu's speech to the General Assembly, which was seen as sending a message that Israel would not blindside Washington with a unilateral attack on Iran any time soon.

Obama's aides were furious that Netanyahu was trying to put pressure on the president in the midst of the election campaign and refused to budge on the red-line issue, despite the risk of alienating pro-Israel voters in election battleground states like Florida and Ohio.

At the same time, Israeli officials - mindful of the danger of antagonizing the Jewish state's main ally and of poisoning relations with the man who could occupy the White House for another four years - moved into damage-control mode.

Michael Oren, Israeli ambassador to the United States, flew back to Jerusalem last weekend, during which he urged Netanyahu to tone down public statements that could be construed as interfering in the U.S. election or supporting Romney, according to sources in the Jewish community in Washington.

The Israeli desire to defuse the crisis may also have reflected an interpretation of recent U.S. opinion polls showing a widening of Obama's lead over Romney, who has suffered a series of political stumbles.

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BO has not once

as President gone to Israel.....I can understand why N would figure he knows nothing about the Jewish history, when BO made a point to not only go to Cairo and talk about how he would figure into talks with radical Islamists and fix everything and then tried to pressure Israel into going back to the 1967 borders after 50+ years of acceptance by the USA. N was correct in assessing the situation and realizing that BO personally is no friend to Israel and would use the Presidential position he enjoys to fit his agenda. After all, Arrafat was given the Peace Prize........and BO was given the same prize two months into office and had done nothing to deserve it. Now we have a new leader in Egypt who is also no friend to the USA OR Israel and Egypt was the only country over there that was doing anything about making sure Israel was relatively safe from that position considering they are surrounded on three other sides by countries wanting to erase them. Now they are completely surrounded. I wouldn't trust BO if I was N either.

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You do remember that Arafat shared the Peace Prize with

Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin, don't you Toni? And it was for an attempted peace accord which didn't last, but was at least a worthy effort.

And then there was Henry Kissinger who was given the Nobel Peace Prize apparently for authorizing the bombing and invasion of Cambodia.

You probably think the UNHCR and the International Committee of the Red Cross, and Amnesty International and all the other groups who have been awarded the Prize are Communist Front organizations..

In the words of old detectives Qui bono? Who benefits? Netanyahu had been elbowing every moderating suggestion aside from the beginning of the Obama Administration. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was in Jerusalem to meet with Netanyahu in March of 2009, which is damned early in the Administration.

Obama visiting Cairo, and lending stability and a sense of respect to the Islamic Brotherhood who won a free and fair election made sense. It was an attempt to stabilize the regime which has not turned out to be militantly Islamic, and which has been able to govern, perhaps not as you wanted, Toni, but better than the chaos that was expected. Bibi Netanyahu, now that his legal problems are behind him, effectively smacked Obama in the face during his Bar Ilan speech of June 14, which followed Obama's speech on June 4 of 2009 was needlessly confrontational with the US and rejected the already agreed upon (2002 George Bush) Road Map for Peace.

"The roadmap for peace or road map for peace is a plan to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict proposed by a "quartet" of international entities: the United States, the European Union, Russia, and the United Nations. The principles of the plan, originally drafted by U.S. Foreign Service Officer Donald Blome, were first outlined by U.S. President George W. Bush in a speech on June 24, 2002, in which he called for an independent Palestinian state living side by side with Israel in peace: "The Roadmap represents a starting point toward achieving the vision of two states, a secure State of Israel and a viable, peaceful, democratic Palestine. It is the framework for progress towards lasting peace and security in the Middle East."

The Bar Ilan University Speech: " Netanyahu stated that he would accept a Palestinian state if Jerusalem were to remain the united capital of Israel, the Palestinians would have no army, and the Palestinians would give up their demand for a right of return. He also argued the right for a "natural growth" in the existing Jewish settlements in the West Bank while their permanent status is up to further negotiation.?
" He also stated that a complete stop to settlement building in the West Bank, as required by the 2003 Road Map peace proposal, was not possible and the expansions will be limited based on the "natural growth" of the population, including immigration, with no new territories taken in."

Quotations drawn from Wikipedia entries on Benjamin Netanyahu, and the Road Map to Peace. The Road Map for Peace resulted from the Oslo Accords where the US under George Bush presented the plan. Netanyahu has been a bitter opponent of it from its inception.

So Netanyahu was smacking your boy George in the face too, and you expect the President of the United States to visit!!?? You don't make a speech like that to win friends, and the whole of the US was being insulted through the disrespect for the President. The Road Map for Peace wasn't some radical liberal idea, it was George Bush's idea, but it was far too radical for Bibi Netanyahu. Mind you, he has unbent this year to the point where he will consider a Palestinian State, totally unarmed (which makes sense to me) with no right of return (which seems a simple recognition of how things are).

However Israel continues to throw conflict into the jaws of conciliation, as some commentator once said in viewing the post '73 situation in Israel. Everytime there's a chance for easing of tensions, one or the other side does something stupid. I don't expect Hamas and the Palestinians to be anything but stupid, they've been oppressed too long, mostly by other Arabs. But I do expect some civil conduct and some indication of moderation from Israel. They're better educated, better armed, better fed and far more respected in the world generally. Usually that leads to a moderation, rather than a ratcheting up of tensions. But Netanyahu's power base in Israel is built on the old Begin Shamir hard liners, and that's who he plays to. Both Begin and Shamir incidentally were leaders of terrorist organizations in Palestine between 1945 and 1948. They were not leaders of the Palmach or what developed into the the Israeli Army. They blew up buildings including the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. I don't say I wouldn't have been with them at the time given the circumstances, but to bring that intransigence into the realm of Foreign Affairs and International relations because we're talking about US Israeli relations, is foolish and counter productive.

Rob

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