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ACORN fraudsters changing name

Mar 15, 2010 4:30AM PDT

Get a new name, pretend not to be ACORN, maybe fool people into giving you money again, maybe get some more tax money, maybe do it all over again. Is anyone surprised that people engaged in fraud would do an identity change? Not me. Just keep track of who the players are, no matter what the name, and expose the chameleon each time.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/15/acorn-branches-rename-rebrand-video-scandal/?test=latestnews

Affiliates of the once mighty liberal activist group ACORN are remaking themselves in a desperate bid to ditch the tarnished name of their parent organization and restore federal grants and other revenue streams that ran dry in the wake of a video scandal.

The letters A, C, O, R and N are coming off office doors from New York to California. Business cards are being reprinted. New signs with new names are popping up in front of offices.

The breakaways are trying to shed the scandal that emerged six months ago when videos showed some ACORN workers giving tax tips to conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute. But while their names are different, most groups have kept the same offices and staff.

One of the latest groups to adopt a new name is ACORN Housing, long one of the best-funded affiliates. Now, the group is calling itself the Affordable Housing Centers of America. (jd- yeah, crank up that pressure for more subprime lending!)

California ACORN is now Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, and New York ACORN has become New York Communities for Change.

A distinguishing feature of ACORN for years has been its complex web of affiliates, some of which shared money and manpower without ever assuming ACORN's name, said Frederick Hill, spokesman for Republicans on the U.S. House oversight and government reform committee.

"The idea that some ACORN organizations are trying to obscure who they really are should be troubling to Americans," he said.

A recent report on ACORN compiled by the House Republicans whom Hill represents describes ACORN as a "shell game" with a structure "designed to conceal illegal activities, to use taxpayer and tax-exempt dollars for partisan political purposes, and to distract investigators." (lots more scandal in article)

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Worse than that...
Mar 15, 2010 6:38AM PDT

WE are still being forced to fund them due to court order...

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/3/11/he....e_acorn_funding

A federal judge has reaffirmed her earlier ruling blocking the congressional effort to de-fund the anti-poverty group ACORN. On Wednesday, Judge Nina Gershon cemented a decision from last year that stripping ACORN of its federal funding amounted to an unconstitutional ?bill of attainder.? Judge Gershon has asked all federal agencies to allow ACORN funding without delay. The congressional vote followed the release of videos appearing to show ACORN staffers offering advice to two right-wing activists posing as a pimp and prostitute.

ACORN has long been a target of right-wing scorn for its work helping low-income Americans with voter registration, tax problems and foreclosures.

That's a lie. They are being scorned for their criminal activity and voter fraud.

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That judge is cracked.
Mar 15, 2010 6:41AM PDT

Has nothing to with Bill of Attainder, but then Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with Interstate Commerce either. Hey, let's just lie a lot and call it truth and the American way.

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AHEM !!!!!!!
Mar 15, 2010 7:00AM PDT

They are being scorned for their alleged criminal activity and voter fraud.

But I understand how you could come to your conclusion with the overwhelming evidence (that some refuse to see).

What's the over/under for the soon to come suggestion that FOX news........

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That some refuse to see...
Mar 15, 2010 12:02PM PDT

on purpose when they know they're busted.

Nothing to see here... just move on. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

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Alleged...
Mar 15, 2010 1:13PM PDT

except for the convictions.

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Changing their name? What chicanery, shades of Blackwater
Mar 15, 2010 11:39AM PDT

and US Steel and dozens of other companies who have had their names smeared rightly or wrongly, or have simply reorganized.

There is no there, there. There is no admission of crime in changing a name. And there is no apparent provable crime connected to ACORN. Nor is there any indication of pressure for sub-prime lending but rather that there should be more low income housing (rental) made available. Now I know you won't approve of the construction of low income housing, but that's what is intended.

It would be nice if the number of refusals these Conservative Agents Provocateurs (which is an illegal thing for police to do) ran into before they finally found a couple of stupid representatives of ACORN.

Rob

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give it a break
Mar 15, 2010 12:32PM PDT

Their guilt is self evident. Even setting aside taking tax funding while providing criminal enterprise advice, let's not forget the rampant corruption during the election of registering voters who either didn't exist, no longer lived in the area, no longer lived at all, etc. The best term however is "Sleazy".

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Let's not forget...
Mar 15, 2010 1:12PM PDT

Voting twice by sending in absentee ballots then going to the polls to vote again.

They now have several indictments in various states, I believe. If there's any justice some ACORN members will be headed to the hoosegow coincident with election time, which would be fitting.

INDICTMENTS:

MO- 2007- Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.

MO- 2006- Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.

NV- 2009- Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called ?Blackjack? or ?21+? for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.

OH- 2007- A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.

OH-2004- A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called ?blatantly false? forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.

PA- 2009- Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.

MISDEEDS, CHARGES and CONVICTIONS:

AR- 1998- A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.

CO- 2005- Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
CO- 2004- An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.

IN- 2008- Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.

MI- 2008- Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN.

MO- 2008- Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.

MO- 2006- Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.

NM- 2004- An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote.

OH- 2008- ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.

PA- 2008- State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.

PA- 2008- An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records.

TX- 2008- In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.

VA- 2005- In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote.

WA- 2007- Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.


As of Oct. 2008, at least 14 states were actively investigating allegations against ACORN.

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It's called "racketeering"
Mar 15, 2010 1:35PM PDT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racket_%28crime%29

Unfortunately it seems RICO is limited to crimes affecting commerce. Still, if it included election fraud, then they'd be a criminal organization under RICO. Same difference really, except financially gaining by who they can push into public office using criminal means to do so.


The RICO Act allowed law enforcement to charge a person or group of people with racketeering, defined as committing multiple violations of certain varieties within a 10 year period. The purpose of the RICO Act was stated as "the elimination of the infiltration of organized crime and racketeering into legitimate organizations operating in interstate commerce." S.Rep. No. 617, 91st Cong., 1st Sess. 76 (1969). However, the statute is sufficiently broad to encompass illegal activities relating to any enterprise affecting interstate or foreign commerce.
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Hey, RICO should apply if this does.
Mar 15, 2010 1:40PM PDT

I think RICO was misapplied here, but since that door's been opened, it can swing both ways.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act#Pro-life_activists
Pro-life activists

RICO laws were successfully cited in NOW v. Scheidler, 510 U.S. 249, 114 S. Ct. 798, 127 L.Ed. 2d 99 (1994), a suit in which certain parties, including the National Organization for Women, sought damages and an injunction against pro-life activists who physically block access to abortion clinics. The Court held that a RICO enterprise does not need an economic motive, and that the Pro-Life Action Network could therefore qualify as a RICO enterprise. The Court remanded for consideration of whether PLAN committed the requisite acts in a pattern of racketeering activity.

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I would not expect any Federal charges in this case...
Mar 15, 2010 8:57PM PDT

Think about it. Who benefitted from the criminal activity? Who's in charge?

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Statute of Limitations
Mar 15, 2010 10:01PM PDT

Maybe we can get the right people into Congress in time to take care of it the way it deserves.

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Re: Congress
Mar 15, 2010 10:14PM PDT

In post #2 I read that there's some court order. I didn't know Congress was able to overrule court orders.
In post #9 I read about a lot of Acorn people sentenced. Somehow, I don't expect that you want Congress to do something about that.

So what should those new Congressmen do exactly, once chosen?

Kees

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You're right...
Mar 15, 2010 10:16PM PDT

the change needs to be at the top.

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(NT) You can HOPE for that CHANGE !!!
Mar 15, 2010 10:46PM PDT
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bring pressure to bear
Mar 15, 2010 11:30PM PDT

...on the appropriate legal forces, in this case it probably would be the FBI, but might be local authorities. How? Congressional investigative committees where they haul up those responsible for bringing RICO cases and making them justify not having done so where Congress felt it should have been done. Just the threat of facing that can be enough to get the ball rolling as a means to avoid it.

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Response
Mar 15, 2010 9:05PM PDT