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Why deep divisions have never healed.........

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Good question ? And as many answers as there are people
to offer an answer.

My own opinion is the degradation of personal responsibility
and loss of respect for authority thruout society that
took root during the '60s and '70's. Add to this the
Mouth full of want, and Hand full of gimmee attitude.
The idea that government should provide everything to all.

I acknowledge there are many homeless and addicted veterans
out there mixed in the larger crowd that were never in
uniform, officially.

I was infantry in Korea '50 - '51, and '51 - '52, and
later Vietnam full tour in the mid-'60s. I, nor any of
my friends or associates, were unable to cope in society
upon our return, or later. I'm not disallowing problems
for some, but I fail to appreciate the continual crying.

There are too many out there making good livings thru
their efforts to stir up sympathy for veterans. Sympathy
unwanted and shied away from by most.

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Re: Why deep divisions have never healed.........

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mac ill say something that maybe you will understand,

i did 2 tours nam heavy fighting at times lets leave the rest in your minds eye.
ok i came home to spitting jeering scum bums.
i came close to giveing in to my inner rage and if i did i wouldnt be a free man or alive as the death penilty was in affect.

ok every man/woman has a diferent breaking point.
you didnt give in i allmost did othere definetly did, so remember your roots, half of thes people in SE havent served in a war zone or if served was peace time

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It's not just Americans. After WWI, some Germans had the view that they hadn't been defeated militarily, but had been "stabbed in the back" by the civilian government. The French had their own version. It's part of the human condition to want to blame someone else rather than face our own mistakes. Various mythologies led America into the Vietnam War and led us to lose there, just as mythologies led us into Iraq and will likely lead us to lose there. Looking at our current problems might mean holding someone accountable. Why, when the State Department did careful planning for after the war in Iraq was that advice ignored? Whose interests are served by ongoing crisis and killing in Iraq? If you care enough to get beyond the parroting of talking points, go to a library and read some books on the middle east. Read some of juancole.com. Find out about Iran and Musaddiq.

A Vietnam-era vet.
(When I first typed that, "era" came out "ear", but that's another story...)

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Re: A vet's lessons from Vietnam

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Well, 911 changed everyone's way of thinking didn't it.
Son is no wimp and did, with John Kerry's approval and the majority of the Americans approval, what papa Bush did not do in Iraq #1....get into Baghdad and get that guy who kills his own people, sometimes with WMD (chemicals).

JR
Korea & Nam Vet

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