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A sobering realization..........

Mar 15, 2004 6:26AM PST

In another thread Dave K and myself have exchanged a few words (nothing new here Wink) about smear campaigns and how they can get old quickly.

In that the closest to actual campaigning most of us will ever become is in conversations such as take place here in SE. We take a bit of pleasure in poking fun at the principal personalities in a political race. Some will call this smear activity. I don't consider it smear when there is a grain of truth, however subtle, in the ribbing. Otherwise, just having fun at the expense of a contestant.

Having thought of the exchange with Dave, I came to a stop when I asked myself if this motivation, at this time, to have fun was really having fun with candidate Kerry,...or...was this an opportunity to exact a measure of retribution from the author of a continuous smear toward the President and his Administration for the past three plus years.

Sadly, and embarrassed, I answered my question.

But I yet intend to have fun.

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Re: A sobering realization... 'Smear' is an unfounded criticism, Del.
Mar 15, 2004 1:24PM PST

None of my criticisms of Bush over the past three years has been unfounded, and many of my dire predicitions have in fact come to pass (where's Ian with his record of the old forum when I need him? Wink ) OTOH, the continual throwing of unfounded accusations at Kerry is demeaning to the throwers, and will eventually backfire big-time to Bush's detriment unless a real problem with Kerry crops up. So far, nothing close -- and creating phony pictures and sound-bytes trying to link Kerry to unpopular positions just shows the lack of scruples, that typify Republican political campaigns, and the depths of their current desperation. BTW, this is nothing new for Kerry -- see Nixon targeted Kerry for anti-war views.

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Brave young Kerry, standing up against that mean ol' Nixon.
Mar 15, 2004 9:02PM PST

If only Kerry hadn't found it so pleasant to travel in the company of liars he called friends. Birds of a feather flock together, and this one's a turkey.

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And now here are a few other birds
Mar 15, 2004 9:22PM PST

Ken Lay,the boys of Halliburton,Rumsfeld,Robertson,and all the others who keep saying that the writers of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution really didnt want to separate religion and the state. I am sure there are a few more one can add including all the mind twisting theocrats who hang out on the internet!

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Re: Brave young Kerry, standing up against that mean ol' Nixon.
Mar 15, 2004 10:15PM PST

James, a liar is one who lies. Telling a truth you don't want to hear is not lying, much as you;d like to think it so.

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That means that Kerry is a liar...
Mar 15, 2004 11:30PM PST

as the "truth" he told in his testemony to congress was full of lies from people he knew were not who they represented themselves to be.

Kerry is a liar and has been right along--you just don't want to admit it so you are avoiding anything that shows his lies so you can later say that you didn't see any evidence. That is why you don't read linked material, because you know that, like the O'Neill "comments" you like to bring up, the linked material will show that you are believing a liar and biased editorials.

Here is just the latest example of one of Kerry's lies
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/15/politics/campaign/15TRAI.html

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None of your smears have had any sound foundation...
Mar 15, 2004 11:24PM PST

Dave, just weak and inevitably disproved accusations you have heard from your party or HC editors. That is why it is so hard to find anything that supports your many accusations.

Kerry on the other hand has a record that speaks for itself and fully supports what conservatives are saying about him.

His vietnam service record is there for those aware of what it actually demonstrates about the man INCLUDING the words of his commander regarding the fact that Kerry should have been courts martialed for his action--think political influence from his Kennedy friends might have had something to do with his commanders failure to do what should have been done?

Hiding your head under that basket and refusing to investigate doesn't say much for your self described "open mind" you keep saying Conservatives don't have.

Nixon would have been derelict had he NOT had Kerry watched like any other who was aiding the enemy and contributing to their comfort and support.