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by jonah jones / November 16, 2006 5:46 AM PST

since the new software came on the scene, we are no longer able to delete isolated posts, this means that if post #2 in a 7 post thread (or sub-thread) is deleted posts 3-4-5-6 and 7 are deleted too...

sorry for the inconvenience

jonah

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Would you explain more?
by Glenda / November 16, 2006 5:51 AM PST
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an example
by jonah jones / November 16, 2006 6:08 AM PST

in this 7 post thread if #3 was deleted, 4 5 6 and 7 would go too, if #6 was deleted, 7 would go too...

in which case, your "single post" question does not apply


hth...


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Really? That stinks!
by Evie / November 16, 2006 6:21 AM PST
In reply to: an example

Or did you misstate and it's just the subthread? IOW, in this thread, if #3 was deleted (currently showing in the threaded view as duckmans "it sounds like" post) would perhaps only take out your reply to that (currently listed as #4) but not #5 (which is this post of yours to which I am now replying) since it is not a sub of the #3 post?

I think this is probably a good thing. W/o any trace that a post was deleted, replies get orphaned and then make no sense causing more confusion because it then looks like they were replies to other posts in the thread. A drawback is a perfectly good post can get obliterated by responding to a flame.

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to clarify
by jonah jones / November 16, 2006 6:34 AM PST
In reply to: Really? That stinks!

this means that if post #2 in a 7 post thread (or sub-thread) is deleted posts 3-4-5-6 and 7 are deleted too...

#Or did you misstate and it's just the subthread? IOW, in this thread, if #3 was deleted (currently showing in the threaded view as duckmans "it sounds like" post) would perhaps only take out your reply to that (currently listed as #4) but not #5 (which is this post of yours to which I am now replying) since it is not a sub of the #3 post?#

i didn't misstate, and yes, your example is correct


#A drawback is a perfectly good post can get obliterated#

time and energy permitting, i (speaking only for myself) will try to repost anything relevant to the thread (as i did previously for a post by Bill Osler)


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Too bad you couldn't ...
by Evie / November 16, 2006 6:39 AM PST
In reply to: to clarify

... have been a bigger person than you are and done that for me instead of the "funny" stunt you pulled.

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Back away from the keyboard!
by Cindi Haynes / November 16, 2006 7:01 AM PST

Evie,
You've gone spastic and I don't recognize you anymore. I think you need a break, and I'm not trying to be mean. You're letting your anger get the best of you.

Cindi

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Did you see the posts Jonah made?
by Evie / November 16, 2006 7:11 AM PST

I can hardly think so. Were I to hypothetically suggest that you take your suggestion and shove it or IF I were to say you had your cranium up your rectum, might you feel a bit angry and rightly so? How about if I were a moderator telling you that? C'mon Cindi. I have great respect for you, but you are either not in possession of all the facts here, or you are being grossly unfair.

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If and I said IF you were to post that,
by duckman / November 16, 2006 7:12 AM PST

just be sure to "self report" it to Lee.

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Re: not in possession of all the facts?
by jonah jones / November 16, 2006 7:39 AM PST

you have them, and deliberately misuse them

the one fact that you constantly/conveniently forget is that my post was to make a point, and that was "as a mod i do not receive total immunity, and as such, if i were to make such a post in a moment of anger, and it were seen by a mod, it would be pulled before the first mod alert arrived"


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Your post was what it was
by Evie / November 16, 2006 9:49 AM PST

I'm not misrepresenting anything.

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I have seen the posts.
by Cindi Haynes / November 16, 2006 7:41 AM PST

But as they say, two wrongs don't make a right, and you're injecting your anger into every nook and cranny you can.

Can't YOU be the bigger person and end it? You know this crap has gone on since the beginning of time, and will continue long after you and I are dead and gone.

At some point you just have to let it go. As your friend who also has a great respect for you, I am asking you to.

Cindi

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(NT) Well I'll try OK?
by Evie / November 16, 2006 9:56 AM PST
In reply to: I have seen the posts.
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(NT) Couldn't ask for more. Thanks, Evie. :-)
by Cindi Haynes / November 16, 2006 12:45 PM PST
In reply to: Well I'll try OK?
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All "children" of a deleted message
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / November 16, 2006 12:41 PM PST
In reply to: Really? That stinks!

are automatically deleted too with the new software, Evie. To our benefit, that ofen decreases the number of deletions we must do manually if we can identify where the trouble started. On the other hand, if there's a mixture of good and bad posts after a certain point (as often happens when a subthread first starts south), now we automatically lose both the wheat and the chaff.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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(NT) Hey, you proved me correct. Thanks !!
by duckman / November 16, 2006 6:36 AM PST
In reply to: an example
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A problem that I see...
by Terry Browne / November 16, 2006 9:32 AM PST
In reply to: an example

with the threaded look is that it is impossible to link to a specific post. The links go only to the page where the post is. It would be good if there was a way of for example double click on the post and have only that on the screen in order to link to it.
Off topic, but thought I'd give my opinion.

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(NT) That's what "Permalink" is for, Terry.
by Cindi Haynes / November 16, 2006 9:36 AM PST
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Oops!
by Terry Browne / November 16, 2006 9:40 AM PST

My lack of knowledge about the new software. Thanks Cindi! Blush

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Thanks Cindi, saw it on other fora (forums if you prefer)
by Ziks511 / November 16, 2006 1:18 PM PST

but didn't know what it was and was loathe to get into something I couldn't back out of.

Rob

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Tell you the truth, Rob, neither did I!

Mods got maybe five days' advance look at/testing of the new version (enough to eliminate about 80% of the initial bugs), and no more "users manual" than anyone else got!

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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does this apply to all cnet forums?
by WOODS-HICK / November 16, 2006 7:33 AM PST

could a drive by, etc then disrupt a lengthy thread if it was not noticed immediately? some OP's do not generate secondary sub threads. example: several NT w/o sub threads in a row.

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if the deletion is by a mod, yes
by jonah jones / November 16, 2006 7:43 AM PST

although i believe individual posts can be deleted by the Cnet admin (Lee Koo or whoever sits in the chair) as the result of a mod alert


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(NT) Woods-Hick: OPs???? Translation, please?
by Cindi Haynes / November 16, 2006 7:44 AM PST
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(NT) not WH but OP Original Post
by JP Bill / November 16, 2006 1:27 PM PST
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(NT) Thanks, JP. :-)
by Cindi Haynes / November 16, 2006 11:28 PM PST
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(NT) You're welcome.
by JP Bill / November 16, 2006 11:46 PM PST
In reply to: Thanks, JP. :-)
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They've been there awhile now
by Cindi Haynes / November 17, 2006 10:05 AM PST

Hi Woods-Hick,
Targeted advertising has been in the CNet forums for some time now, at least several months. I think posts are scanned for keywords, and the ads come back based on the keywords. Sometimes, depending on the text in the post, the ads can be quite strange!

Cindi

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Really?
by Bill Osler / November 17, 2006 11:07 AM PST

It's amazing what I don't see with AdBlock Plus and Flash Block. I really need to see if they still work in FF 2 before I upgrade.

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