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80% of American oppose recent Supreme Court ruling

Feb 17, 2010 6:03PM PST

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That's very true.
Feb 17, 2010 9:49PM PST

It doesn't matter. It's just remarkable that so many people think it wasn't the right decision.

Same, of course, for gay marriages in certain states and Obama being president and other things some people don't like and others do. Life is full of compromises.

Kees

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the people have been mislead for many years
Feb 17, 2010 9:56PM PST

We need to change school curricula back to what it was before the leftist and socialist managed to subvert the teachings of what it really means to be an American. It will take a generation after recapturing our education system, but it will be worth it. Already that movement has taken strong hold with private schools, church schools, and home schooling. We still have a ways to go yet, but we will get there eventually.

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Not that remarkable...
Feb 17, 2010 10:07PM PST

considering the disinformation spread on this issue by the various powers-that-be.

Someone once said, "You can fool all of the people some of the time..."

Even now, Congressional "leaders" like Chuckie Schumer are forging legislation aimed at thwarting the decision. I doubt very much that whatever they come up with will be Constitutional, but I doubt they care about that at all.

My rule of thumb: If Schumer is for it, I am against it.

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Obama was incensed over it
Feb 17, 2010 10:14PM PST

Seemed hypocritical to me considering the special interest monies he received for his election. He was so angry over it he actually included it in his State of the Union speech. Did anyone think he'd even had time to read the entire ruling and dissension, take a look at the case, etc? No, he was just shooting from the hip with no in depth look at it prior to his speech. He's a reactionary, and if anything proved it, that did. Hopefully the end of this year will provide the brakes on his fast speed train to nowhere before it takes us all over the cliff.

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He actually included it in his State of the Union speech...
Feb 17, 2010 10:29PM PST

and got it completely 100% factually wrong. Now maybe he wasn't lying, but he claims to be an expert in Constitutional Law, so...

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What did he get wrong?
Feb 18, 2010 2:33AM PST

You keep saying that but don't say what.

Diana

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This was discussed here extensively at the time.
Feb 18, 2010 3:19AM PST
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/print/60660

During his first State of the Union speech on Wednesday, President Barack Obama incorrectly stated that foreign nationals and foreign entities can now contribute unlimited amounts of money to U.S. political campaigns because of a recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling lifting certain campaign finance restrictions.

This prompted an immediate reaction from Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, who, sitting directly in front of the president, shook his head and apparently mouthed the words ?not true? when Obama made his remark.

The high court?s 5-4 ruling in a First Amendment case, Citizens United vs. Federal Elections Commission (FEC), lifted restrictions for companies, unions, and other organizations to make independent expenditures in political campaigns.

The court decision, however does not allow corporations to contribute directly to a campaign or coordinate expenditures with a campaign. Nor did the ruling lift existing law that blocks foreign contributions to political campaigns.

In his speech, Obama also claimed the court reversed 100 years of law when, in fact, it overturned a 1990 decision in Austin vs. Michigan Chamber of Commerce. Also, parts of the McCain-Feingold reform bill from 2002 that restricted independent political advertising in the closing days of an election were struck down.

?With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests ? including foreign corporations ? to spend without limit in our elections,? Obama said.
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From a Librtarian point of view....
Feb 17, 2010 10:15PM PST

The SCOTUS decision was a long overdue victory against Progressives of which McCain is one,it's a victory for free speech.

"McCain/Feingold" was a progressive attack on individual liberty,people opposed to the SCOTUS ruling just don't understand the implications of what "McCain/Feingold" did.

Despite of what people think about Glenn Beck,he does a good job explaining in this short video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1X4hGBdP-E

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Glen Beck
Feb 17, 2010 10:40PM PST

good link. I enjoy Glen Beck's stuff at times. He takes it right back to the simple truth so everyone can understand it, although some after understanding will still reject it.

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Well...
Feb 17, 2010 10:54PM PST

I felt that way and this was discussed here as well. The same people sided with whatever. My gut feeling and is usually right it wasn't good and felt as if the strings had been pulled that they came into sight. In other words, this is NOT in the best interests of the people but rather ambiguous groups or entities that become more self serving. -----Willy Happy

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Gut feeling...
Feb 18, 2010 12:00AM PST

is not enough. My gut feeling is the opposite of your gut feeling.

I prefer reason.

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Things can change
Feb 18, 2010 3:55AM PST

I deal only with my gut feeling, not yours. Your answer pretty much sums up what I expected.

As for the SC action to pass that law. Those can be reversed, maybe not now but can be. Remember, the law as it stands, then both sides which ever is in power will use it to its benefit. In no way will the people really benefit. This is really throwing money at the issues. So, if you don't want a coal-fired power plant in your area(ieHappy then their money could easily outspend local groups and/or those against it. The other side of say, building a new highway through your area, taking your land by imminent domain, will rule or should if you can try to stop it. Influence local politics or get on-board against or for it, who has the most money. Figure it out, its no longer the people, but self interests having their way. Since, I'm one of those 80% in disagreement with the new law, then I'm not alone. Your defense of it can't be because you actually like it or something else. -----Willy Sad

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I deal only with my gut feeling, not yours.
Feb 18, 2010 4:03AM PST

How about using the gray matter between your ears instead? My point is that "gut feelings" are unreliable since they vary from person to person.


Figure it out, its no longer the people, but self interests having their way.

Wrong. It's exactly opposite.

The way it was before the ruling, powerful interests had much more power than the people because they could gain access that ordinary citizens and smaller groups cannot. Why do you think the big unions are so mad about this? Because they are on the people's side? Hahaha!

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I had a gut feeling...
Feb 18, 2010 12:36AM PST

...this month. Turned out to be stomach flu. After I got cleaned out by it, my gut feeling changed. Maybe yours will too.

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Stop STOP!
Feb 18, 2010 3:01AM PST