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2 Lesbians kill adopted children and suicide

Apr 3, 2018 3:49AM PDT
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/03/authorities-investigate-california-cliff-plunge-as-felony.html

"The Hart family's two moms, and three of the six adopted children were found dead. The three others have yet to be found and are presumed dead.

Last month, concerned neighbors of the Harts had called protective services over concerns that the children may have been going hungry.

Authorities discovered the wreckage of the Washington state family’s vehicle last week on the rocks along the coast near Mendocino, California – just days after the child welfare authorities in their home state began investigating whether the children were being abused or neglected.

New details released Monday suggest that Jennifer Hart, the woman behind the wheel of an SUV that drove off the side of the Pacific Coast Highway, intentionally pointed the vehicle toward the ocean before hitting the accelerator.

The preliminary investigation revealed that the 2003 GMC Yukon continued to accelerate until the vehicle tumbled over the cliff – sending Hart, her wife and their 6 adopted children to their deaths, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

Authorities now believe the apparent suicide plunge may have a more sinister backstory, as investigators search for a possible motive."


I've always been against homosexual couples adopting children.

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Animals follow instinct
Apr 5, 2018 7:51AM PDT

Man, the fallen creature, should follow what God has told him is the right way.

"O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps."--Jeremiah 10:23.

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Good scripture.
Apr 5, 2018 3:45PM PDT

We believe it, and in it, so we don't vote for other humans to direct our steps, either. See how sensible the Bible is?
Works for us.

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Does this apply to you also?
Apr 6, 2018 12:54PM PDT

It's too easy to interpret it as "James' instinct is to be gay and enjoy it, but he doesn't follow his instincts, because God doesn't allow that." That must be a rather painful feeling, being so restricted.

I hope my interpretation is wrong.

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Re: last time I checked
Apr 4, 2018 12:48PM PDT

You checked in current science (biology, psychology). James checks in the Bible, that's science (or maybe ideas is a better term) of 2000 and more years ago.

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Ahh, so science, biology, and psychology,
Apr 4, 2018 1:27PM PDT

(aka "soothsaying") has taught you there's no controlling your sexual parts, they just willy nilly lead running after whatever they want to do? If you replace your brain and logic for a sexual part, what does that make you?

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"Willy"?
Apr 4, 2018 1:31PM PDT

Don't know if that means the same in the USA, but i know what it means in the UK.
Dafydd.

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Before you explain, Dafydd,
Apr 4, 2018 1:46PM PDT

remember you're a Mod, held to a higher standard of behavior. Happy
Willy nilly is a corruption of "will he, nill he". As when a situation is out of one's control. I always thought it was English.

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I'm Welsh.
Apr 4, 2018 1:57PM PDT

We have slang terms for this. But it's used when a baby runs around naked, where parents would say, "I can see your willy".
Yes, I'm expecting carp for this, but won't bite.
Dafydd.

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The carp never bite when I'm fishing.
Apr 4, 2018 4:54PM PDT

One of the euphemisms here is Johnson. Now we know his last name.
A public service announcement from CBS.

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RE:The carp never bite when I'm fishing.
Apr 5, 2018 8:21AM PDT

And others don't answer the door?

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Even you should it's 'fishing for men'.
Apr 5, 2018 3:20PM PDT

Good one, though.

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RE:'fishing for men'.
Apr 5, 2018 7:42PM PDT

Do you gut them?

Have you ever thrown any back?

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Throw back???
Apr 5, 2018 8:28PM PDT

Whaddya think hell is for???

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RE:Whaddya think hell is for???
Apr 5, 2018 8:40PM PDT

So...YOU try and save them, IF they don't want to be saved, you leave them alone....and many years later they eventually croak, and you claim to know that/why they are in hell?

You are way better at your job than you are getting credit for....I'd ask for a pay raise....

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Pay attention, Bill.
Apr 6, 2018 4:08AM PDT

There is no hell. It's an invention of man-made religion to keep the people in line. Also, illegal in Canada, so you're safe.
Men torture other men irrationally, so they made a god 'in their image' to justify it.

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RE:Men torture other men irrationally,
Apr 6, 2018 4:50AM PDT
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You're off on a trip; lost me.
Apr 6, 2018 3:23PM PDT

What do you hear from the Service Overseer?

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RE:lost me
Apr 6, 2018 7:46PM PDT

You said "Men torture other men irrationally"

I responded that they torture them irrationally by going door to door spreading the word..you know...when some are on a crusade....a crusade to save me from myself.


I lost YOU?

That's the reason I have a peephole in my door...I don't want to get lost...YOU know HBH.

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Bill: "It hurts when I do this."
Apr 7, 2018 6:55PM PDT

Doc: "So, stop doing that."
...
Bill: "It hurts when ..."

What do you hear from the Service Overseer?

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RE:What do you hear from the Service Overseer?
Apr 7, 2018 9:34PM PDT

Now YOU have lost ME....

Service Overseer?

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common JW tactic
Apr 8, 2018 1:55PM PDT

deflect and go cryptic when they realize their error isn't being swallowed, or their faith in Watch Tower is rattled.

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You missed it too, hotshot.
Apr 8, 2018 4:46PM PDT

Not surprised. I'm familiar with how you 'read the Bible', and its correct exegesis. Grin

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Speaking of which,
Apr 8, 2018 5:11PM PDT

I note that you did reply to it, with your usual prolix and clumsy exegesis, proving you read it and understood its topic, at least.
Which makes me wonder why you would reinforce Bill's reply, instead of correcting his misapprehension, as I did.

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Here is the post, a reply to YOU, from THIS thread.
Apr 8, 2018 4:44PM PDT

Quote. Our assignment, our mission from God, Happy
by drpruner / April 5, 2018 3:37 PM PDT

[In reply to: RE:Home but hiding]
is to preach the good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth, and then the end will come. If you're hiding, then the game is you're pretending to be not at home. [That's NH.] We like games, so we pretend you're not at home, and look for you another time. See how it works?
If you get tired of games, call or meet the Service Overseer at the local KH, and tell him to mark your house as one that will burn in ... I mean, that we should skip from then on. That is what should happen, barring human error. Or, put up No Trespassing or Private Property signs. We honor those, although real terrorists will not. See? All you had to do was ask.
Toni says her experience is otherwise; I'm not sure why. I can't help her myself without getting her address, and I do not want to go there, as they say.
BTW about every year a couple of our elders will come by to ask if you still feel the same way. Say Yes; done. [People change or move.] End quote.
Is it really so much easier to curse the darkness than light a candle? I wouldn't know; we're illuminators, as the Bible calls us.
You also missed the other time I asked about the Service Overseer. Pay attention. Make the call.

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RE:BTW about every year a couple of our elders
Apr 8, 2018 7:22PM PDT
BTW about every year a couple of our elders will come by to ask if you still feel the same way. Say Yes; done

Make the call.


Just so I understand...IF I complain to the right people,(Service Overseer) some more people will come by regularly to annoy me to make sure I haven't changed my mind.

I guess knowing that someone is hiding from you HBH isn't a good enough HINT..

You can figure out someone is hiding, but you don't associate hiding from someone, with "they don't want to talk to you"....

Some have to be hit on the head with a hammer, a REALLY BIG HAMMER.
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The hammer, for the time being, will get you
Apr 8, 2018 9:25PM PDT

a term in federal custody. US or Canada.
Yes, you should complain to "the right person". Like our God, Jehovah, we're organized. Gen 1:1. He will get together with the Territory Servant and make a note on the card for your territory. Then, barring human error you're clear for another year. You can't take even that much terrorism, you say? Tough; you're not in charge of the preaching work, Jesus is. You've seen what he has to say about it in the scriptures I've cited in the past. Oh, you don't bother to read them, do you? In that case
QUITCHER BELLYACHIN'!
The reason for the annual visit to your house - not to you - is to see if the attitude or the resident has changed. Organized, like our God, Jehovah.
"You can figure out someone is hiding, but you don't associate hiding from someone, with 'they don't want to talk to you'...."
Of course it means they don't want to talk to us, then. We come back and maybe they will be
> in a better mood
> over their illness
> not on their way to a concert
> not hosting their pastor [who got them into his church simply because they moved into town last year]
> not so satisfied with life they were living last week
> wondering how a "loving God" could allow a bus full of Junior League hockey players to crash, or 17 children to lie in their own blood in a schoolhouse, or hundreds of civilians to be bombed by their own government in Syria. [Oh, wait. They're the "other"; just Muslims. Never mind that one.]
Typically it takes about two or sometimes three circuits of a territory to cover it, then you're safe from our terrorist activities for six months, anyway. Hide three times, and you're done for a while.
See? All you had to do was ask.

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RE:See? All you had to do was ask.
Apr 8, 2018 9:47PM PDT

Ask 5 times?

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Bill.
Apr 9, 2018 4:47PM PDT

You didn't ask; you're not that courteous to us.
That statement of mine was sarcasm because I had just answered the question you failed to ask: 'How do I get rid of them pesky torturers?'
You missed reading, or perhaps understanding, my answer. That's on you, 110%. Your equally rabidly anti-JW helper failed to help you. That's 110% on you, for choosing your associates poorly.
Just do it, or
QUITCHERBELLYACHIN!

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Re:Bill. You didn't ask;
Apr 9, 2018 7:58PM PDT

That's correct...You figured it out for yourself..... HBH

It was SO obvious that you even have a code for it....HBH

......and you want to send a Service Overseer to confirm what their "underlings" have relayed to them.

You don't trust/believe each other?

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Sheesh!!! Pay attention, Kees!!!
Apr 4, 2018 2:08PM PDT

How many times have I told youse guys about science vs. the Bible???
Round earth; 'hanging' in space; value of a calm heart in preventing and treating disease ... The list goes on. Moreover, it's the non-biblical contemporary science that was full of superstition. Even the great Galen was great only in his times.
OK. Apology accepted. Back to our story.
It's clear there are many problems with the human condition. Genetic diseases are sins in the technical sense [not complete; missing the standard] but not in the moral one. A straight male who cheats on his wife is a sinner, even though he's programmed to go after women. The moral part comes from "Thou shalt not ..." And from the wife when she catches him. Tell HER 'the Bible is just a myth'.
Same with gay men and women. If they don't act on their urges they look good to Jehovah, just like an alcoholic who doesn't take a drink. They have a well-founded hope of living forever in a Paradise on earth if they endure to the end. In that case, no more defects, as in Eden.
Of course, most [99.9%] don't have that hope. That's why we keep preaching.