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2 Laptops with GTX 970M. A versus analysis needed!

by ma_251 / October 11, 2014 8:45 AM PDT

Hello,

My first ever thread Happy

Basically I am interested in buying one of the following laptops with GTX970M.

1- MSI GT60 Dominator 1065 with GTX970 3GB
Price: 1499$

VS

2- Sager NP8262 (Clevo P150SM-A) with GTX970 6GB
Price: 1399$

All other specs are the same with Core i7, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD.

I am not concerned with proportions,portability or looks. I just want pure gaming performance. So I think it comes down to the following issues:
a) Video Memory: 3GB vs 6GB GTX 970
b) Price: Sager is $100 cheaper even with the 6GB GTX970
c) Thermal: Most importantly, which one may have better heating management/any thermal issues that may hinder gaming.

Please advise and provide analysis regarding the above mentioned a,b, & c points adding any other info or recommendations that you might have regarding this comparison. Specially the 'c' part regarding the heat management of these laptops.

I am basically relying on the experience of the community regarding these brands (MSI/Sager) as I have no prior experience with these brands.

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c. Ongoing issues for laptops.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 12, 2014 12:10 AM PDT

If you worry about this, or didn't know, gaming on laptops is still troublesome. I find that even current machines are pushing the envelope so get it on a cooling pad and enjoy for a few years. Life spans are reduced over say the desktop models but in spite of all warnings folk want the laptop form factor.

Look at the paltry warranty to see this confirmed.

a) While I think 2GB is ample, a few rare games may like more. Only you know if the game you want to play takes advantage of this.
Bob

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True, but...
by ma_251 / October 12, 2014 1:19 AM PDT

You are right but there are certain situation is one's life when a desktop is not an option even though desktops are better in every way. (except portability)

a) & b) 3GB is sufficient indeed as you say but for $100 less you can get a 6GB 970m in Sager (Would have to wait till end of October though).

c) I think both of these laptops have 2 fans. 1 for GPU and 1 for CPU. Still, just in terms of cooling, which is the better choice? Do you think Sager laptops usually have better heat management than MSI laptops?

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C.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 12, 2014 1:25 AM PDT
In reply to: True, but...

Can't tell. Head to notebookcheck where they do thermal mapping of laptops. If the model is too new you may have to wait. I will not guess which is better because each model changes. That is, I know better than to base an answer on make, or similar model because each one differs.

Also, since the model is not out, why are you expecting solid answers? And then you may fall into the trap where another shiny model will show up and you start over again.

You can see why folk don't chat about non-shipping models much.
Bob

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Correction
by ma_251 / October 12, 2014 1:34 AM PDT

Correction: Sager model is NP8268*

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I wish you would supply full model numbers.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 12, 2014 1:45 AM PDT
In reply to: Correction

For example the GT60 has many models. That's a series and asking folk to pick over the dozens of models to find which one you want opinions on, well that defeats what you asked for.

GT60-2PC81B for example is at http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GT60-Dominator-Notebook.116067.0.html and reveals what a good review is.

The temperature testing shows the USUAL in this class machine. Not one today seems to do what folk want. Get over that and you may be OK.
Bob

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Already provided in the first post sir!
by ma_251 / October 12, 2014 2:04 AM PDT
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Why this?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 12, 2014 2:15 AM PDT

Sure, I read that but didn't find the exact model number. Only "MSI GT60 Dominator 1065 with GTX970 3GB"

Now you can bicker and complain or we can get down to it. Your choice.

OK, the Exotic is no sale here as what they do voids the maker's warranty. For years, well, why repeat the past here?

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-MSI-GS70-65M21621-Notebook.101807.0.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dnotebookcheck%2BMSI%2BGT60%2BDominator%2B1065%2B970m%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Drw2%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Drcs%26biw%3D1536%26bih%3D731 is another model so we'll have to wait for reviews since this is just out.

I don't expect any significant change to the results. That is, you're still looking at surface temps over 50C.
Bob

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Budget!!
by ma_251 / October 12, 2014 2:28 AM PDT
In reply to: Why this?

I think I forgot to mention that my budget is strictly under $1500 and I want a gtx970m.

For that I have 3 options. The above 2 and another Asus ROG G571JT-CH71
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232202

But this Asus is 17.3" which I do not prefer.

So thats why I narrow it down to the above 2 and give specific attention to throttling/cooling issue.

Thanks for the discussion though.

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You'll have to wait for the reviews.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 12, 2014 5:09 AM PDT
In reply to: Budget!!

As it stands I see no changes to prior experiences. You can help with a decent cooling pad but laptops don't have the big vents to get the heat out so when stressed they must throttle.
Bob

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