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1st Note book purchase

Sep 27, 2004 7:14AM PDT

I am looking for an relatively inexpensive, reliable laptop that I can use to surf the web, play games, and have my daughter be able to watch a dvd on trips in the car. Any recommendations on products that would fit this description and what accessories I may need with it? I was hoping this would be a better use of $ instead of the $1500 auto dealers charge for their installed DVD players. Thanks

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Re: 1st Note book purchase
Sep 27, 2004 8:11AM PDT

There are several interesting options for you but you have to be clear on what you want:

1) Have you gone to best buy, Costco.com, etc to check out the dedicated DVD players (not a computer) which have their own LCD screens ? You can get a very nice one for $500 or less in many cases but these only play DVD's on their own built in LCD and are much thinner and lighter than any notebook computer. Examples of quality brands: Toshiba, Panasonic, etc in varying LCD sizes/Costs

2) HP just came out with a brand new model at hpshopping : dv1000 -- it allows you to play DVD's without booting up the computer (or CD's) with controls on the front panel. Also, it has a remote PC card that goes into the PC card slot when not in use. It has a 14" LCD and is a Pentium M (Centrino) notebook 1.2" thick and 5.3 pounds. This may be ideal for you uses except for one thing -- GAMES -- it has integrated graphics (not a dedicated video card) so it will play simple games and do web-surfing, etc but it will not play Doom 3 or any other game requiring a built in dedicated video card chip. This notebook also should fit well between the car seats assuming you mount it on something properly.

3) A full-fledged multimedia computer like the Compaq X1000 or HPZT3000 (I have one of these) has an option for 64mb dedicated graphics (128mb is better but most of those are at or close to $2000), a 15.4" widescreen LCD, etc. These can very easily be purchased for under $1500 after discounts ($100 custom order rebate) but they are wider and heavier than the above -- 6.5 pounds.

Give me more of an idea of what you want. If you really want one device to use in the car and use for wi-fi (web surfing, Microsoft office) then the DV1000 is a decent choice (or similar new Compaq model is somewhat less but doesn't have the built in remote control and some front panel controls).

If you really want a notebook that can play games you would be better off buying a 7" Toshiba Dedicated DVD player (meaning DVD player only -- no computer) with LCD (very small and light) and then get a notebook somewhat larger and with a dedicated video card for games.

Let me know which way you are leaning.

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Re: 1st Note book purchase
Sep 27, 2004 8:14AM PDT

The critical thing is how much space do you have in the area you want to mount the DVD player for the car ? I assume you would mount it between the front seats and have it viewable from the rear seats but what type of vehicle is this ? Most of the built in solutions have the LCD come down from the ceiling but of course that is all customized and expensive.

If in fact you can mount a dedicated DVD player or small and light notebook computer between the front seats (on a board or something flat) then you must find out how much space you actually have to do this upfront (especially width).

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Re: 1st Note book purchase
Sep 27, 2004 8:17AM PDT

Have you considered a refurb? I'm typing on my p266 166$ Compaq Armada 1598dmt. Oh, I added the 8 buck wifi card...
It boots and I see google.com in just over 2 minutes.
The unit even came in a HP box!

There are some DVD units at compgeeks.com

About "games". That pushes the discussion into what games?

Bob

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Re: 1st Note book purchase
Sep 27, 2004 11:41AM PDT

By games, I'm just talking about some kid's stuff for my 7 year-old. I'm talking Reader Rabbit, Barbie -type stuff on DVD and some games she may play at the house on Cartoon Network and such. I'm not into the adult gaming thing. I might play some on-line poker , but that would be it.

I did check out the portable DVD units at Costco ($179-350) and they would do, but I would rather put that $ into a notebook. My other computers are desktops and we spend some time at a vacation house,so it would be nice to have a notebook to take along.

I haven't figured out any of the mounting aspects yet. And it may wind up being better to get the $179 DVD player and spend the rest on a desktop for the vacation house. I'm trying to examine all variables. I appreciate any help.

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Re: 1st Note book purchase
Sep 27, 2004 1:42PM PDT

The HPdv1000 I mentioned above is a good option for you given that you are stating you will probably not require dedicated video RAM. I push this dedicated video RAM upon nearly everyone else as it is not upgradable later but for your use this may very well be your notebook.

See the cnet review -- the remote control is also slick and mounts right inside the PCcard slot.

Also, choosing a notebook that does not require booting to use the CD or DVD player not only will keep the notebook from crashing (as hard drive is not on) but also you get longer battery life in this scenario (as the full windows operating system is not required to play the DVD).

This notebook still has the built in wi-fi for web surfing if you add a wireless network, it is light enough for travel, and the only shortcoming is the missing dedicated RAM for complex games and programs (Autocad, etc).

Note you can get a $100 custom order rebate for any HP or Compaq custom order notebook through 12/1/04. See X1000forums.com if you can't find the rebate PDF file under mail in rebates (1 each for HP or Compaq notebooks) at the hpshopping homepage.

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Re: 1st Note book purchase
Oct 4, 2004 12:13AM PDT

Does the $100 mail-in rebate apply to the DV1000? I could not find it listed on the HP rebate form.

Also, the brightview is $100 extra. Was it previously standard? Is it worth it?

I'm a real novice, so how much will reducing the processor to 1.5Ghz, the SDRAM to 256 and the hard drive to 40GB effect the proiduct for my uses? I'm looking to stay in the $1000 budget. Thanks for your help.

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Re: 1st Note book purchase
Oct 5, 2004 10:00AM PDT

I would not go below the Pentium M 725 1.6 Dothan processor as the 1.5 Pentium M is not a Dothan and has only 1mb of L2 system cache instead of 2mb. You are not paying much more for the 1.6 and it is the current generation Dothan Centrino chip.

Yes, you can order 256mb now and add your own RAM later for less anyway. In fact, you can add a PC2700 512mb RAM module to go to 768mb RAM for less than you will pay now for 512mb RAM from HP (will cost under $100 to add 512mb later -- I got a Kingston module for 69.99 after rebates).

Yes, getting a smaller hard drive is fine and you can always upgrade this yourself later for a faster hard drive speed or higher capacity if desired.

The HP $100 mail in rebate good through 12/1/04 is good for any HP custom order notebook not just this model (states configure to order at bottom of rebate language). That is any custom order notebook from HPshopping.

You find it by clicking mail in rebates on the hpshopping homepage (at lower left) selecting HP notebooks and then opening and printing the Adobe PDF file for that offer ...

Here is the link again (I already posted this once and have referred to it many times):

http://hpshopping.speedera.net/www.shopping.hp.com/shopping/pdf/rebate_choose_cool_hp.pdf

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Re: 1st Note book purchase
Oct 6, 2004 5:50AM PDT

Thanks a bunch.