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General discussion

1GB RAM + Pentium M 730 or 512 MB RAM + Pentium M 760

May 31, 2005 8:50PM PDT

1GB RAM + Pentium M 740(1.74 GHz) + 100GB Hard drive + 15.4"

or

512 MB RAM + Pentium M 760(2.0 GHz) + 60Gb Hard drive + 14.1"

i m really confused on these 2 specifications...please help me choose!!

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At first that was easy.
May 31, 2005 9:13PM PDT

Since you'll never change out the CPU, the nod for me is the 2.0GHz. I still think that wins to last longer in spite of the screen size (.5 inches is a lot of screen.)

You can always add RAM, but today 512M is the right spot with XP and most applications including video editing (I have a story why.)

The one thing that you must understand is that in 1 year you may regret this if you paid dearly for this laptop with 64-bit everything happening by year end. Make your decising in this light so you don't regret it.

Bob

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dont understand
Jun 1, 2005 1:19AM PDT

i was also thinking the same but its still confusing. btw what do u mean by 64-bit in the last message

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The 64-bit Tsunami is in plain sight.
Jun 1, 2005 1:25AM PDT

TIf you haven't been watching or just will be running what you have today, then don't look into the next wave of PC computing.

My point here is that in 1 year (or less), those that paid dearly for a 32-bit only machine may be a little upset as more 32/64-bit applications appear. Today I already use Virtual Dub on a 64-bit laptop and it does help reduce the transcoding time.

But if this is not something you'll ever consider and will be happy with what softare you have today, then you don't have a worry.

Bob

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what bout these programs i use
Jun 1, 2005 1:35AM PDT

i also use bigger progs macromedia flash, adobe photoshop, premiere etc.. so do u think that i would like tsunami or i need it?
i hate to wait while switching programs while using these softwares..

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The word Tsunami in this discussion is ..
Jun 1, 2005 1:45AM PDT

The damage and chaos that we'll witness as the market flips from 32-bit only machines to 64-bit capable machines and ... as more applications arrive. I already use a few such apps.

As to waiting for apps to load, RAM helps, but a faster RPM hard disk (for laptops) really pays off. Here's my example.

My old Acer ter-600 took just over 4 minutes to boot Windows 2000. I tweaked and twiddled it as much as I can, compared notes with the best and finally one day tripped over the bottleneck. It was the hard disk. I removed the 4200 RPM drive, cloned it onto a 5400 RPM drive and it bow boots under 2 minutes. More RAM would not have helped here.

Bob

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got da point
Jun 1, 2005 1:55AM PDT

i got the point. so basically i wouldn't need to think bout 64 bit processors as long as i get 2.0 GHz pentium M with hard drive with speed 5200rpm(is there more faster than this?) and of course 512mb of ram(guess i wont need 1gb)
i guess this will last for at least 3 yrs still being on top.

the screen size still bothers me, is there that much diffn betwn 14.1" and 15.4"

and ya 128mb shared or 64mb independent graphic adapter??

thanks for being there

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This and that.
Jun 1, 2005 2:12AM PDT

That was the issue that didn't make this one a slamdunk. The screen size was .5 inches smaller. Too bad that was not equal.

As to shared video RAM, that only is a red flag item for gamers. Video editing, photo editing is not affected by this. I also adjust the shared video ram down to 32MB from 128MB (a bios setting on the Dells I've used) since we don't use 3D games on those and it gives it back to the OS.

There are 7200 RPM laptop drives but many charge a premium.

Again, things you can't upgrade later:

LCD and CPU.

Things you can upgrade later:

RAM and hard disks.

Bob

PS. I'd get the 2.0GHz with the better screen. But then again, you won't find me buying any non-64-bit laptops or desktops.

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i also play games ;)
Jun 1, 2005 2:28AM PDT

as i play games i should need a separate graphic adaptor

and i have to forget bout 64-bit processers..thats too much to think at the moment...or maybe i dunno

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Just as long as..
Jun 1, 2005 2:37AM PDT

Just as long as..

You make a conscious decision.

Given you want to play games, you really need to give that R4000 a looksee. I've seen it for under 1200 and it's quite nice. We have a few of the former R3000 models.

Bob

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R4000??
Jun 1, 2005 2:44AM PDT

which notebook has R4000?
this time i changed my specifications..

pentium M740(1.7GHz) or M750(1.86GHz)
at least 15"(wxga) its just i love widescreens
at least 40 gb (7200rpm)
512mb ram
at least 64mb GA

any good ones in ur eye with these features??

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same difference...
Jun 1, 2005 1:48AM PDT

Truth is, you are not going to notice or
see much difference in terms off application
speed. If you render lots of graphics, then
sure maybe the 2Gig will 'out-perform' marginally
(at best) but in real world, if you are going
to $ave with the M730 a significant amount
then way waste more?

If you want my advise, I'd go for the M730
(assuming you got a decent price) and Max
out the RAM and Swap the drive for a 7200
spindle. The HDD upgrade alone will make
you believe you are achieving a 40% gain
and application processing. Trust me on
this one.

Far too often many people play the numbers
game (thanks to Intel) and when people
see larger numbers they believe instinctively
that its 'better' but Intel knows far too well
that by deliberately producing and manufacturing
CPU's with incremental increases rather and
larger steps creates more revenue for the bottom
line which makes their shareholders happier.

Go with what you need and don't be fooled by
marginally higher cycle numbers. Your biggest
bottleneck is RAM and HDD spindle speed and
graphics performance.

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a relief
Jun 1, 2005 2:26AM PDT

i guess i have to change my chosen laptops which were
dell latitude d610 and hp dv4000
so wht i m thinkin now is

pentium M740 or M750
at least 15"(wxga)
at least 40 gb (7200rpm)
512mb ram

what do u think?

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Odd, Link..
Jun 1, 2005 2:55AM PDT

Just search for R4000 on the failed link.

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thanx
Jun 1, 2005 3:17AM PDT

thanks i have enough information to go

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one more question
Jun 1, 2005 3:39AM PDT

i carry my laptop probably 2-3 times a week. does weight matter??

compaq r4000:
pros: everything is nice and affordable
cons: they dont have 7200rpm hard drive and they're bulky

compaq v4000:
pros: lighter, pentium m, also affordable
cons: lack of separate video card

i dont know what to say....

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Just a note.
Jun 1, 2005 3:43AM PDT

The r4000 may not have dedicated video ram.

I take my r3000 with me on the road every other week. It's working fine for me and the larger screen helps in the demos.

Bob

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guess it has....
Jun 1, 2005 4:22AM PDT

what does it means then??
128MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory(TM)
isnt that a separate radeon graphic memory???

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Depends on the options you choose.
Jun 1, 2005 4:25AM PDT

Use the 800 number if you need clarification.

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if thats da case
Jun 1, 2005 4:41AM PDT

if the memory is included i think i m goin for hp dv4000 coz it is light, looks cool from outside, pretty similar features except the fact that it has M740 instead of athlon 64. what do u say?

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Just policy...
Jun 1, 2005 4:47AM PDT

At the office, we don't buy 32-bit only machines.

I agree.

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great!
Jun 1, 2005 5:30AM PDT

its 128mb dedicated video RAM. m definately goin for compaq R4000. guess thats the lucky ******* Wink
thanks for all the help!!

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That's about as...
Jun 1, 2005 6:03AM PDT

Good as it gets in laptop video land.

You should have a lot of fun with that one. I know our R3000s have been super.

Bob