120Hz & videogames

by fuzion17c May 5, 2008 7:39PM PDT

Hey all,

I know movies & TV/sports programs are affected by 120Hz LCD TVs, but what about videogames? Do 120Hz LCD TVs improve the graphics & framerate of videogames?

Any input is appreciated!

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120Hz and Video Games

by Dan Filice May 6, 2008 11:54AM PDT

I'm not sure how to answer you question, but I have a PS3 hooked up to my Sony 1080p SXRD which is 120Hz and the games look stunning. The only way for me to know if the games would look equally stunning on a 60Hz TV is if I had another TV for side-by-side comparison, but I don't. I don't play the PS3 games but my two sons do and I look at the video on the screen. I see no adverse affect. The 3-D intro movies at the beginning of some games look like I'm watching a DVD. So far, I'm a fan of the 120Hz for DVDs and TV watching (sports), but some people don't like it. They say it makes DVDs look like video. Hmmmm...not sure about that.

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120Hz and Video Games

by fuzion17c May 7, 2008 8:30AM PDT

Thanks for the reply! Anyone else?

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nope, nada

by sefuly May 9, 2008 10:14AM PDT

120hz is over-hyped, it's so marginal over 60hz. refresh rate that is over-hyped. 120hz is only good for blue-ray players, and even then it would be hard to tell the difference. 120hz equals an arm and leg. Remember even 1080p is only good for blue-ray players. None of the networks support 1080p, uses too much bandwidth. well, gotta go, so keep it real.

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I have to disagree.

by directvsucks Oct 24, 2008 6:31AM PDT

I have a 52" LCD television with 120hz refresh rate. Of course, the picture is phenomenal but that is not the point. I recently bought a new A/V receiver which could only pass the video signal through at 60hz. (This TV displays the signal resolution and refresh rate, so no guessing here.) Believe me, there is a substantial improvement between 60hz and 120hz even with the same resolution! Maybe the difference becomes more evident with larger screens, I don't know. I'm not a tech-head but I do know the difference between good and phenomenal! BTW, I am having trouble finding a receiver that can truly support this refresh rate. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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it doesn't really have to do anything with the receiver

by jostenmeat Oct 24, 2008 6:46AM PDT

as far as 120hz.

120 hz is a common denominator of 24hz and 60hz. So no 3:2 pulldown required. 5:5 pulldown for 24fps. (actually its 23.976 and not to be confused with the extremely rare 24.00 fps that WILL cause judder).

as for receiver, you just want to know if it can pass 24 fps (which i assume almost all do), and that there is no alteration of black levels, colorspace, etc.

i can't tell you which ones, for i don't know.

side note: some older tv's boasted 120hz, but it was bs marketing. still applying 3:2 pulldown, then 2:2, which is basically easy bait for the unknowing consumer.

i don't like lcd tv's, but i am glad you are enjoying yours.

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Interpolated frames take time

by j_a_s_p_e_r-18898677845122086628774458260115 Sep 15, 2010 11:33AM PDT

When TVs run at 120Hz or 240Hz they interpolate frames. They create motion smoothing frames, the calculation takes time. For normal TV or video video the lag is synched with the audio and you don't notic it, but videogames have realtime input and the lag is noticed.

I just looked up the topic at Philips.com and its one of the FAQs. In the case of philips TVs, they have a "game mode" that keeps the framerate at 60Hz as presented from the source. Another option is to switch to 60 hz. I noticed that some TVs have a "computer" HDMI port , at first this confused me, but now I suspect this port may be 60Hz autoswitching port since HTPCs will have the same problem.

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