12 marines MAY face court martial

or become a liberal

when you can dial in to the drive by media and catch Murtha's words of wisdom?

Besides, it shifts blame from the real offenders! These attacks on Murtha remind me of how the guy who single-handedly brought My Lai to light was ostracized for many years,
though he finally ended up winning an Air Medal for his courageous actions that day...

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This is being investigated. The facts will be released. If it was as alleged, the Marines will be dealt with severely but JUSTLY.

I don't care what the eventual outcome is as concerns Murtha's despicable behavior trashing the Marines before all the facts are in. Those jumping on the bandwagon of prejudgment are equally repugnant.

The investigation is (properly) taking quite a while, and the military is concerned that the delay will be interpreted as a coverup by our enemies unless there are simultaneous leaks, and statements like those of the Marine Corps Commandant. I don't see you folks saying he's a disgrace, but he's sending the same message. The disgraces are the Marines who've clearly sullied the Corps' reputations by their actions. There are sufficient leaks on this investigation to Murtha and to various reporters that clearly none should doubt the basic truth of the charges. OTOH, precisely identifying those responsible, and those who tried to cover it up, will take a while -- hence the delayed official report.

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The military wants Murtha spouting off like he is? Yeah right.

you know that the Military Industrial Complex is ...........

Dave you come off as pre judgmental when you say ''The disgraces are the Marines who've clearly sullied the Corps' reputations by their actions.'' Despite any evidence (valid or invalid) that is leaked... only a courts marshall can legally determine who may or may not be a criminal and sullied the Corps' reputation.

Evie, you make a simular unfounded assumption when you comment ''I don't care what the eventual outcome is as concerns Murtha's despicable behavior trashing the Marines before all the facts are in. Those jumping on the bandwagon of prejudgment are equally repugnant.'' You are prejudging a congressman with inside connections, not only from his political office but from his status as a decorated Marine veteran. I'm not saying he is but if Murtha is accurate in all his statements then how is he ''despicable''?

Both of you are wearing your political affiliations on your sleeve and it colors your comments. I hope the allegations aren't true... on the other hand, this has been a brutal war and it wouldn't surprise me if this did happen considering human nature.

It's too early to point a finger and I hope neither side is forced to eat crow in a matter like this... in the meantime, inflammatory speech serves no purpose since none of us can claim to know the facts

grim.

... it doesn't matter if Murtha is relaying 100% accurate information. It's not HIS place to do it at this point in time. PERIOD. That he would put his politics above the military service he wraps himself in for respectibity is repugnant. My opinion.

..."used" pie instead of fresh pie...you know, that brown wrinkly "hole".

don't do anything to strengthen your position Jack... They only display the level you prefer to function on

...just ignore your post. Whatever Jack sez he sez over his real name...there's a credibility problem here. Togo thanks grimsomething for his input though.

Even Bill Cosby will tell you that.

Grim has spoken

his discussion of currents events.

Military/defense service

Congressman Murtha is so well-respected for his first-hand knowledge of military and defense issues that he has been a trusted adviser to presidents of both parties on military and defense issues and is one of the most effective advocates for the national defense in the country. He is ranking member and former chairman of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, a Vietnam combat veteran and a retired Marine Corps colonel with 37 years of service, a rare combination of experience that enables him to understand defense and military operations from every perspective.

He learned about military service from the bottom up, beginning as a raw recruit when he left Washington and Jefferson College in 1952 to join the Marines out of a growing sense of obligation to his country during the Korean War. There he earned the American Spirit Honor Medal, awarded to fewer than one in 10,000 recruits. He rose through the ranks to become a drill instructor at Parris Island and was selected for Officer Candidate School at Quantico, Virginia. He then was assigned to the Second Marine Division, Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. In 1959, Captain Murtha took command of the 34th Special Infantry Company, Marine Corps Reserves, in Johnstown. He remained in the Reserves after his discharge from active duty until he volunteered for Vietnam in 1966-67, receiving the Bronze Star with Combat "V", two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He remained in the Reserves until his retirement. This first-hand knowledge of military and defense issues has made him a trusted adviser to presidents of both parties and one of the most effective advocates for the national defense in Washington. At the request of Presidents and Speakers of the House, he served as chairman of delegations monitoring elections in the Philippines, El Salvador, Panama and Bosnia.

He was awarded the Navy Distinguished Service Medal by the Marine Corps Commandant when he retired from the Marines.

source: http://www.house.gov/murtha/bio.shtml

politics corrupts

He is to be commended for what he DID. Makes what he is doing now that much more repugnant.

I would follow this civilian leader into battle. or would you rather follow our current

he is an old marine who still believes in honor

usmc leadership pricipals and traits

...our leader is President Bush. Murtha's actions are self serving and counterproductive. Not worthy of a Marine according to those I've discussed this with.

(I am not sure of the source) but I heard that if he had to do it again; murtha would have crossed his fingers while taking usmc oath.

i wouldnt want to serve under a man that runs his mouth oof to the media.
would you rather have a liar like the wanna be hero kerry?