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10% of the worlds population is now under quarantine.

Feb 15, 2020 10:41PM PST

Yup, that happened.

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No doubt there's some panic in high places involved.
Feb 15, 2020 11:43PM PST

But I think the locations quarantined correspond closely to legitimate fears.
Myself, I'm still puzzled by the conflicting information coming out, not even counting obfuscation by state actors. Who shall remain nameless. You xi?

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I recall your wife is Asiam
Feb 16, 2020 12:13PM PST

Protect her from any possible exposure to this corona virus for sure. Hopefully no relatives from her country come to visit for awhile, till this infection dies down. Trump is almost correct, but about a month off, it would be May when the infection rate goes down due to higher temps and higher humidity and stronger UV from the sun.

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Feb 16, 2020 7:13AM PST

If there are 7 billion people in this world which I'm not sure, that means 700,000 are under quarantine. Crazy isn't it?

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It's even worse/more
Feb 16, 2020 7:23AM PST

700,000,000 Million

IF there are 7 Billion people on the planet AND 10% are quarantined.

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Feb 16, 2020 7:43AM PST

I forgot the last three 0's.

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Don't feel bad
Feb 16, 2020 7:49AM PST

I did the figuring 3 times to make sure It was correct....

Most of us aren't used to working with billions and hundreds of millions....We're not least I'm not.... Happy

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It's usually the commas that fool me.
Mar 10, 2020 9:08PM PDT

Write down the big number, without commas, reading and copying the zeroes carefully.
For 10%, take one off the right end. The remainder is the 10%. Add the commas back in to both numbers, three zeroes at a time, again from the right end.
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(NT) 8,000,000,000; 800,000,000
Feb 16, 2020 12:35PM PST
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A lot of people
Feb 16, 2020 7:52AM PST

I can only hope this will go away soon before it reaches where I'm at. Very scary!

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had flu twice between...
Feb 16, 2020 7:57AM PST

...Dec and Feb. Had it for a few weeks in Dec, got over it in time for Christmas. Went back to church one morning after not coughing any more. The very next day I felt odd, then Tuesday knew it was another version of flu, wife had it on Wednesday. Just now about over the cough, don't know if still infectious, so maybe next week to church again, see what I get there this time. My oldest daughter got married mid January and I was sick then with it, never left the suite till wedding day, then the reception, and breakfast the next day, then finally back home from west Pennsylvania back to Maryland. I've been following this corona virus almost obsessively since became aware of it weeks ago. The saddest thing was a teenage Chinese girl who started documenting her isolation at home, put on youtube....then she died.

I think something got loose from Wuhan Virus Laboratory. Google showed it 8.6 miles from that alleged source the Meat Market. Amir Tsarfati said there were no bats being sold there. Also if people properly did cook and eat those, then it shouldn't have infected them, in fact would help them have immunity against it, just like dead polio was used as a vaccine when I was child in 60's and given to us on sugar cubes at the Texas schools where I lived at the time.

Tired of the lies out of China, hope it changes things there. Many changes already done, maybe they can keep walking out of communism.

I heard Chinese restaurants and takeout are hurting from loss of business. It's not discrimination, at least not bias based, but people wanting to be safe. We don't know if some of their family or workers went home for Chinese New Year to be with family mid January and then came back before travel bans set in place. I saw it's really hit them hard in New York City, not a ghost town like Wuhan, but definitely a lot fewer in Chinatown area there.

I am tired of hearing "racism" is involved, and that's the bad form of "discrimination" ad nauseum. No, it's fear and common sense also to an extent. Too bad America is so "politically correct" many can't realize it's not bias nor racism, just being safe, even if overdone a bit. If it gets loose in America, everyone will be avoiding everyone else they can like in China.

Some good news if you are of European ancestry, or black African, or both, is this corona virus for now seems not to hurt those racial genomes as much as Asians. In Wuhan only one black person was infected, had an easy time with it, and already among the recovered. Of course this is the First Wave, and it's the Second Wave that is always the worst, if 1918 is true for flu.

The Korean cure for coronavirus

China may have such a cure too.

An official China propaganda site, but it's still a sad song, even if can't translate the language. I hope someone does CC for it, would like to know what the words are. Well done song.

Right now the true death rate is around 18% even if you use official figures, it can be estimated as that. Add dead and critical (who will probably die) and divide by number of entire reported infected since began and you still get that high figure.

Hope this post doesn't hit the links filter for being "too many", but if so, hopefully Rob can restore it.

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Re: Think it might have leaked.
Feb 16, 2020 8:04AM PST

Conspiracy or something else?

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more china stuff
Feb 16, 2020 8:13AM PST

Disregard for student's property in effort to create more isolation areas in China. This alone proves their numbers of dead and infected are under reported there.

Yep, Jim Bakker is back again. Trying to turn people into "smurfs" now. See wiki on argyria. I wonder if we'll see him in blue by next year.

What's happening at the Wuhan crematoriums? Oops, the truth out?

1918, some died within 12 hours of first symptoms. A lesson from history.

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Feb 16, 2020 9:15AM PST

Two types. The pneumonic type could kill almost instantly after incubating in the victim. Like the Black Death, FWIW.

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I remember hearing that years ago too.
Feb 16, 2020 11:53AM PST

Maybe it was mutated? We do have influenca "A" and "B" now, and my recent bout with "B" was stronger than "A" in past.

Also ran across some news from India that claims the corona virus in Wuhan is definitely engineered. Seems they've compared it to the same virus in nature and discovered that what's infecting China has HIV proteins that have been added into it, which they claim wouldn't have happened naturally, but only through laboratory manipulations. Here's one article about that.

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Certainly worth speculation.
Feb 16, 2020 11:59AM PST

Yes because where did the virus originate? I recently thought about evolution and how it matches up with the evolution of viruses. The point is there has to be some manufacturing the virus here because why would China be deceitful?

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wow! spoken like a true bigot
Feb 26, 2020 4:48AM PST

what is with racists and conspiracy theorists sharing the same tent? Makes me want to chew off a bat's head off smh

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(NT) Don't get him started on Jews.
Feb 26, 2020 7:08AM PST
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said like...
Feb 26, 2020 9:00PM PST

...a true JW. Ask them not to knock on my door until this virus is under control for sure.

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such an informative post
Feb 26, 2020 8:59PM PST

Trolling is off limits at CNET forums.

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He made his ID of you based on your post.
Feb 26, 2020 9:29PM PST
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Our Circuit Assemblies, as we call them, are semiannual.
Mar 10, 2020 9:16PM PDT

Usual attendance is in the few thousands each. My wife, in CA for a bit, was looking for one nearby. All cancelled for the nonce.

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If you want to see what...
Feb 16, 2020 8:37AM PST really happening in China, go to youtube, just put coronavirus into it's search box. I check each day for new reports and videos managed to get out where China's "great firewall" can't control it. Most of those have used Nord VPN to get past the firewall.

Serpentza and Laoway86 who both are married to Chinese women (one named Hu is a doctor in China) and lived there over 10 years each, both now in USA a few months before this happened, have some great videos about China.

Triple packed body bag. They are stacking them 6-8 in vans for taking direct to crematorium, some from hospital which are counted, some from home isolation which are never counted.

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Feb 16, 2020 8:41AM PST

What are we supposed to do if it gets out of control in the US? Are there test kits?

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yes, but maybe not enough
Feb 16, 2020 8:52AM PST

One day the China count jumped 15,000, but it was due to change in diagnosis method. They are now using CAT scan results of any "pneumonia" show on such to just assume it's corona virus related. Still, their figures are just percentages of the true number dying there.

If they were trying to create a bio-weapon in Wuhan, they succeeded. Of course such would need test subjects. I'd suspect they used prisoners who were Chinese for such. In doing so, not realizing different races have different immunities, they unwittingly may have created the perfect bio-weapon for killing Asians. Someone from the lab may have gotten infected, and between then and when showing symptoms infected others, perhaps stopped to shop at the Meat Market on way home each day. Chinese buy food almost every day for what is needed that day, so a lab tech may have been to the Meat Market all during such transmissible time.

The coincidence of a Level 4 Virus Laboratory in Wuhan, and this happening there, and being so lethal, gives strong credence to it being a mistaken release into that area.

Google for information on Harvard professor involved in sharing biological material with China, also the professor in Winnipeg, Canada. If as China has suggested it originated in USA, then it's because they stole it and took to China, and its know Wuhan received some or all of the stolen materials from US and Canada. We know they were given Ebola material, information on what else they stole has not been released yet, if ever it will be.

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What about places that don't report people's diagnosis?
Feb 16, 2020 9:05AM PST

Or places that quarantine people without knowing if they have the actual virus? Such as "just in case" and not being tested and not reporting the problem to CDC?

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I would hope they'd be liable legally...
Feb 16, 2020 9:32AM PST

....for not reporting it as they should. This is such a big thing now, I doubt any medical group would fail to report it. If it starts spreading, many may think they have the 'flu" and not even visit the doctor or hospital. Any Asians even here in America however, should not assume it's flue, since this corona virus seems to hit them harder than other major racial groups. It may mutate however to hit other racial groups just as strongly eventually.

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In Philadelphia in particular, in 1918
Feb 26, 2020 10:18PM PST

quarantining would not have prevented the city's worst time.
In September the city went ahead with its planned Liberty Bond rally, a two-mile-long parade witnessed by hundreds of thousands. Within three days (incubation period was 24-72 hours) the death march started.
There's talk now of death rates- deaths divided by patients- which is useful. Philly's problem was death quantity. No coffins; they were being stolen from mortuaries. No graves- cemeteries full. Makeshift morgues stinking. No medics; dead or incapacitated. And the calls for volunteers went unheeded, or those who did answer quit before the end of their shifts. Collateral damage included those at home who starved to death because their mothers and fathers were dead or critically ill.
From The Great Influenza' by John M. Barry.

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This journalist is now missing, known to be arrested.
Feb 16, 2020 9:08AM PST

Maybe forcibly "quarantined" although his last video showed no evidence of being infected, but forcibly taken by police anyway. That's all that's been seen or heard of him.

This video starts with a propaganda release on government news. The reality is much different.

February 3, 2020

The next day I did some math, using even the official released information.

Feb 4, 2020

February 4, 2020

It's 20 percent increase of infections in a day. (4000/20,000=.20)

So, I went to google calculator and ran this estimated daily increase for 30 days from now, which
will be first week of march, if the same percentage of new infections hold.

20000 + 20% to the 30th power = 4,747,526

Almost 5 million Chinese infected by next month.

What if the same percentage of increase daily goes to 2 months?

It would be 1,126,950,287 over 1.1 billion who got the infection.
Currently the comparison of dead to restored is about 20% dead
Compared to the amount now infected, it's about 2% dead.
Even if that latter 2% figure was the final one, then for 1.2 billion
infections, the number dead would be 22,539,005
That's 22 million dead Chinese after two months.

Feb 10 - If you add current dead to critical, assuming all critical die, then divide by
reported infections, then mortality rate would now be 18%
1.4 billion chinese if they all become infected, with such mortality rate
then about 250 million could die with these later figures.

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In the spirit of public service, I offer this alternative,
Mar 10, 2020 9:36PM PDT
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(NT) Sorry. s/b 'alternative to your video'
Mar 10, 2020 9:37PM PDT

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