This Thursday on CNET LiveHow trustworthy is the information in Wikipedia? Why are some schools trying to prevent students from using it? Wikipedia Executive Director Sue Gardner joins Tom and Donald to answer these and other questions.
[ Music ] ^M00:00:09 >> Coming up on CNET Live, Unicycles are back. >> Plus Brian Cooley climbs into a robotic Cinderella Coach. >> And we've got lots of Apple news. They unveiled the SDK for third party apps. >> It's coming up on CNET Live. ^M00:00:24 [ Music ] ^M00:00:31 >> Tom Merritt: Welcome to CNET Live. >> I'm Tom Merritt, Brian Cooley is off in Geneva, Switzerland, probably banking, but he says, he's at the Geneva Auto show. Donald Bell thanks for joining us. >> Donald Bell: I'm here to take his place, yes. >> Tom Merritt: I appreciate that. >> Donald Bell: Good to be here. >> Tom Merritt: He hasn't been here in like what now? >> Donald Bell: It's been... >> Tom Merritt: Cooley has been... >> Donald Bell: Months... >> Tom Merritt: Gone for [inaudible] weeks. >> Donald Bell: At least. >> Tom Merritt: I'm not going to be here next week. I, I... >> Donald Bell: Oh, sayonara [assumed spelling] sucker. >> Tom Merritt: Especially, after last week's iPhone... >> Donald Bell: Ooh, yeah. >> Tom Merritt: Nose, type [assumed spelling] in challenge. >> Donald Bell: I'm surprise [inaudible] didn't can [assumed spelling] you. I'm surprised I'm even talking to you this [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: I'm just saying we are going to redo that. >> Donald Bell: Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: We are going to have the iPhone nose typing challenge. If you don't know what I'm talking about, it was a big failure mostly on my fault last week. And so everybody had to win, which means nobody really won. So we'll do it again. The officials of the sport are conferring. >> Donald Bell: The handoff, you're going to... >> Tom Merritt: To start [inaudible]. >> Donald Bell: Have to practice that handoff... >> Tom Merritt: Yeah. >> Donald Bell: This next time [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: Exactly. >> Donald Bell: Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: But we... >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: Are taking your calls, 888-900-CNET. That's 888-900-2638. And when you get on the phone, you'll talk to Andrea [phonetic]. She's waiting to set you up. >> Donald Bell: Hey Andrea. >> Tom Merritt: Stealing [assumed spelling] in for Cheryl there. So talk to Andrea, get your question down... >> Donald Bell: But hey... >> Tom Merritt: We'll see it here, and we'll get you online. >> Donald Bell: It's time for things we crave right now. >> Let's go to things we crave. ^M00:01:35 [ Music ] ^M00:01:38 >> Tom Merritt: These are so of our favorite things from the crave blog at www.crave.cnet.com. >> And you may have noticed, I mentioned Unicycles earlier. Yeah, baby, that is the Segway of Unicycles. Check it out. >> Donald Bell: Oh, Tom. >> Tom Merritt: It was designed by Canada based Bombardier Recreational Products. It can have two people on it. >> Donald Bell: There's no way, you're getting two people on that thing. >> Tom Merritt: A series of gyroscopes and sensors keep it balance; keep it from falling over. And it has a landing gear, so that when you get below twelve miles an hour, it just comes in for a nice soft landing. >> Donald Bell: I wasn't sure if there's ever going to be a way for someone to nerd up a motorcycle, but this is it. This is, they finally breached [assumed spelling] it, so... >> Tom Merritt: It's better then a Segway; better then a motorcycle. It's whatever they end up calling it. >> Donald Bell: How fast does this thing go? >> Tom Merritt: The Embrio Advanced Concept is what they call it right now. >> Donald Bell: Okay. So it's a Concept [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: I didn't see, I didn't see a top speed, yet. >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: And it's not available for purchase, so there's no price or anything like that [inaudible]. >> Donald Bell: It actually makes, the thing I like about the Segway, is at least you can stand on it, this thing you're going to have squat... >> Tom Merritt: You ever see those guys in the circus standing on the Unicycle? >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible]. I see the little guys, on little tiny motorcycles, that was a big fade a few years back. >> Tom Merritt: This is going to be huge for the shriners [assumed spelling]. You're absolutely right. >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible]. You're right, yeah, definitely. All right, well my thing... >> Tom Merritt: [Inaudible] written by Donald Bell. >> Donald Bell: Written by me, so sue me... >> Tom Merritt: [Inaudible] spike in the punch; isn't it? >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible] come on. I know what's good. Sony's unveiled the US release of the PFR-V1 headphones, which stands for Personal Field Speakers, really. >> Tom Merritt: Okay. >> Donald Bell: And these aren't really headphone, as much as they're head speakers. They don't sit on your ears... >> Tom Merritt: [Inaudible]. >> Donald Bell: They sit in front of your ears, and they direct sound, there's like little one inch drivers that direct sound pass your ears... >> Tom Merritt: So it's like strapping speakers to your head? >> Donald Bell: It's like strapping speakers to your head, except that there's this extra little bonus here with these little tubes. >> Tom Merritt: Yeah, what is that... >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: Does that strap around your ears all the time? >> Donald Bell: They're base ports that go into your ears, they like hook into your ears... >> Tom Merritt: Oh, like some sort of... >> Donald Bell: To slam base. >> Tom Merritt: Alien monster? >> Donald Bell: Yeah, and actually I think if you scroll down a little bit here, you'll see the little diagram I included from the Japanese... >> Tom Merritt: Oh, wild. >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible] website for Sony. >> Tom Merritt: So as... >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: So as the alien entity... >> Donald Bell: It's radiating into your ears. >> Tom Merritt: Works it's way through your ear canal, the messages from their masters will be delivered. >> Donald Bell: So five hundred dollars, it's supposed to be outstanding sound quality. You'll look a little ridiculous. You can't go jogging with these because they're just going to drape over your head, they don't even, they don't even, like squeeze your head at all. So... >> Tom Merritt: I'm going to start wearing these just in the show. >> Donald Bell: Why not. >> Tom Merritt: You know. >> Donald Bell: Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: Instead of that little IFP that allows the producers to tell me when to shut up. >> Donald Bell: Just be bold about it, Tom. >> Tom Merritt: I'll just wear some speakers. >> Donald Bell: Definitely. >> Tom Merritt: Big, gold speakers. Will they get bigger? >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: I just got told to shut up, and get to the callers, [inaudible]. >> Donald Bell: [Inaudible] calls, Tom. >> Tom Merritt: Let's go to line two. Kyle is on the line, from Dayton. Hey, Kyle, thanks for calling CNET Live. >> Hey, what's up guys? >> Tom Merritt: We're doing good. >> Yeah, I got a question about my iPod and iTune. I downloaded, actually a CNET Live podcast, and I'm trying to put it on my iPod, and it comes up with an error that says it cannot read the disk. But then I, and then I just, because I was curious, I opened up the MP4 video in Dunes [assumed spelling] Software, and it could play, but it couldn't play in iTunes. So I'm wondering, I wonder, I'm wondering what is up with that? >> Tom Merritt: Now, is this just a problem with the CNET Live video, particularly, or you're having this problem with other M4P's [assumed spelling] as well? >> I've actually not gotten any other podcasts. >> Donald Bell: He only watches CNET Live, Tom. >> Tom Merritt: Have you, so you, have you tried it with other videos or not? >> This is the first error I've gotten like this. >> Tom Merritt: Okay. But you've tried other videos and they worked fine? >> I'm not sure. I haven't tried any. >> Donald Bell: One of my first suggestions. My first impulse is to say have you tried like right clicking on the file within iTunes and converting it. There should be a convert for iPod, little drop down function that comes up when you do that. And hopefully that would make it, that's what I usually use for converting WMV files, or other types of files for playback in iTunes. >> [Inaudible]. >> It's a little slow. >> I actually got it; I got the dialogue box on my screen if they want to bring it up. >> Yeah. >> So... >> That's the first kind of step I think in trying to convert video for iTunes, for iPod. If that, failing that, there's... >> [Inaudible] converters. >> [Inaudible] yeah, convert selection for iPod, iPhones. >> Okay. >> Donald Bell: Or Apple TV, if you're just going to be playing on your computer screen. So that would be my first thing to try. Failing that, there's a handful of third party applications you can try to convert this stuff to. Have you tried the right click function, or... >> Well, I don't think that is necessarily the problem... >> Okay. >> Because when I try to play it through iTunes, it doesn't play. >> Oh, yeah, that's... >> [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: I think that's what's Donald's saying, is if you convert, you get the file in iTune; right? It just doesn't play. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Tom Merritt: So if you convert it, it might actually fix whatever's wrong with that codex [assumed spelling]... >> Okay, [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: You know, if it's a corrupted file, you might just need to re-download it. >> Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: But I would start by trying to convert it, if that doesn't work, I would re-download it, and if that doesn't work, just email Cnetlive@cnet.com [assumed spelling]... >> [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: And we'll try to figure it out. >> Okay, well, thanks. >> Yeah, good luck. >> Tom Merritt: All right, so give it a shot. Thanks, Dayton, or thanks. He's from Dayton. >> He's from Dayton. >> Tom Merritt: I thanked the whole town of Dayton... >> All of Dayton... >> Why not. >> Thank you. >> Tom Merritt: Let's go to Adam, who's on the line. Hey, Adam, where you calling from? >> Hey. I'm from Dallas, Texas. >> Tom Merritt: All right. How are things down in Dallas, you recovering from the primary? >> Yeah, yeah, we are... >> Okay. >> It's actually, really rainy out here. I usually watch you guys on my Zune [assumed spelling], but today I'm home sick from work, so I'm able to catch the live show, and call in. >> Tom Merritt: Oh, I'm sorry you're sick, but I'm glad you're getting to catch it live. What's your question? >> Yeah, well the reason I'm calling is I'm building a PC, and right now I'm going to put in a single one terabyte [assumed spelling] hard drive for now. And later as my budget allows, add more hard drives that can be weighted [assumed spelling] together. >> Okay. >> And the only way I know how to do this is when I add the drive is to reinstall the whole OS and start from scratch. But my question is, is there a way to kind of streamline this process where I don't have to lose all my data. >> Tom Merritt: I have done something that I haven't finished, to find out how it works out. >> Ooh, a Merritt [inaudible] in process. >> Tom Merritt: But I did on an old Dell, I installed a single drive as a [inaudible]. So that I already have the raid [assumed spelling] system set up, if there's just one drive in it. So it doesn't have any of the advantages, but the ideal was then I could go and add other drives later on. So, like I said, I haven't added the second drive yet to see. But theoretically, that would make it easier to work because all of your raid system is set up, and your operating system should be able to just see the second drive. >> Donald Bell: Yeah, I haven't gotten sophisticated enough, I've just been plugging in USB [assumed spelling] and firewire [assumed spelling] drives my computer... >> Yeah. >> To a mess [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: I mean it's easy if it's not... >> I get [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: A raid, if you're not trying to do a raid, you can just do that. >> Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: You can plug in an internal drive... >> Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: To get them recognized. But that's my suggestions, maybe go head and setup your single drive as a raid. >> Okay. >> Tom Merritt: And if you want like better advice, go to www.forums.cnet.com, and ask around, and see if anybody else has come up against the same issue. >> All right. Thanks guys. >> Tom Merritt: All right. Thanks, Adam, hope you feel better. Coming up, I'll be talking with Sue Gardner [phonetic]. She's the Executive Director of the WikiMedia Foundation. But first, earlier today, Apple held a special iPhone related event down in Cupertino [assumed spelling], where they unveiled the third party apps program. So there's going to be Microsoft Exchange Support on the iPhone. It's going to be able to work in the Enterprise [assumed spelling], big for the corporate folks. They also talked about third party apps, you'll be able to put on games, people will be able to develop apps and put them in the iTunes store. All of this is coming in a software update that will be available in June. And they showed up a few apps today. They showed off AIM, they showed off Wing Commander. And they also showed off Super Monkey Balls. >> Super Monkey Balls. >> Tom Merritt: Ethan Einhorn [phonetic] from Sega shows you how it works. >> [Inaudible]. >> When they told us that we'd only have two weeks to create a full 3D demo of the game, I thought that was impossible, but here it is, thankfully up and running, and it looks awesome. And we were able to do because we were working with a terrific, flexible and powerful SDK. So the object of Super Monkey Ball is to guide AiAi [phonetic], the monkey through a series of mazes, collecting bananas along the way, for extra lives. It's a really simple concept to pick up on. And the controls are easy to pick up on too. All Gordon [phonetic] has to do, to move AiAi around is tilt the device. It's such a comfortable, smooth way to play the game, that even if you've never played a video game before, you'll know exactly what to do when you pick up an iPhone. Now, for me, I'm a hardcore gamer, so it was really tough for me to wrap my brain around the ideal of not playing with analog sticks. But after two weeks, with the iPhone, it's going to be very hard for me to go back and play this on a traditional game control, game controller. This feels like it's always the way, Super Monkey Ball was meant to be played. So now I'm a console producer, and this team, they're a group of console developers. So for us, by far, the most exciting thing was that we've been able to create on iPhone, the type of game that we're use to making. This is not a cell phone game. This is a full console game. And if anything, we underestimated what the machine was able to do graphically from the start. We had to actually fly in an extra artist to start scaling up the quality of the visuals to match what the output was capable of giving us. And that's the best kind of problem that you have to solve on the development side. >> Tom Merritt: All right. So there you go, that's one example of an iPhone app that will be coming your way in June. There's plenty more, we'll have a bunch of excerpts [assumed spelling] from that announcement upon CNET TV.com later today. But right now, I'm very pleased to be joined by Sue Gardner from the Wikimedia Foundation. You're the Executive Director, thanks for joining us today. >> Sue Gardner: Thank you. >> Tom Merritt: Now, I understand there's been kind of a hard week for you because there's been some news about allegations of inappropriate spending for Jimmy Wales, and some other controversy. So let's just get that out of the way, off the top. What's going on with that? >> Sue Gardner: Yeah, it has not been a great week for the Wikimedia Foundation. And I actually feel really sorry for Jimmy Wales, because it's been super tough for him, much harder for him then for anybody else. What's happening here is we have a disgruntled former employee, and the world has always been full of disgruntle former employees. What's different though now, is that now people didn't use to have a platform, now they have a platform. So this guy has a blog, and what he's done, is he's used that blog as a platform to spread a whole bunch of unsubstantiated rumors and gossip, and so forth. And it's hard for us to even respond to, because, I don't know if you've read it, it's not entirely even clear necessarily, always what's being alleged. So it's really difficult to sort of come back to it. And we don't want to get into a long back and forth on somebody's blog. The foundation, I don't know if you know this, we have twelve employees. So if we have one person sort of duking [assumed spelling] it out on a blog with people, then that's eleven people doing the actual work, we have important work to do. So I guess, what I would say is, I don't know if you know Jimmy. Have you met him? >> Tom Merritt: Unh-unh [assumed spelling]. >> Sue Gardner: He's a good guy. He's a really, good guy. I'm feeling sorry for him. He's a modest guy. He's a frugal guy. Jimmy has never done anything wrong. So I've been with the Foundation since June, so for six, seven months, and in that period of time, I think Jimmy's expense [inaudible] total of an eleven hundred dollars worth of stuff. He took one trip to New York for us to do some media related tour fundraiser just before Christmas, and that's it. He doesn't live well. He doesn't live a lavish lifestyle. And to the extent that he does live whatever lifestyle he does, it's not out of Wikimedia's coffers. >> Tom Merritt: Okay. So what would cause [inaudible] to get that, to bring these allegations [inaudible]? >> Sue Gardner: Who knows? >> Tom Merritt: [Inaudible]. >> Sue Gardner: I mean people develop dislikes, personal vendettas. I have no ideal. >> Tom Merritt: All right. Well, let's move pass that. You are the Director of the Wikimedia Foundation. >> Sue Gardner: Um-hum [assumed spelling]. >> Tom Merritt: And I know a lot of people identify that with Wikipedia. >> Sue Gardner: Um-hum. >> Tom Merritt: The encyclopedia that they're familiar with, but you do a lot more then that; there's Wikisource, there's Wikispecies. What are some of the projects that you're involved in? >> Sue Gardner: We have lots of different projects, and the theme that runs through them all is that what we want to do, our big picture mission is that we want to spread free information around the world. So we want to give every single person living in the world today access to the sum total of all human knowledge. And so we started off with Wikipedia in 2001. And it's now, a lot of people don't know this, it's available in 250 different languages around the world. So it's not just English, lots of people go to the English one. It's certainly the most popular. >> Tom Merritt: It's actually kind of impressive just the number of languages that exist... >> Sue Gardner: Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: To go and look through all [inaudible]. >> Sue Gardner: Yeah, I know, absolutely, yeah. Our German Wikipedia is extremely popular. Our Spanish Wikipedia is very popular. Japanese Wikipedia is right up there. So we have a number of Wikipedias, the encyclopedia in different languages. And then what happened was as the community [inaudible] organized and the community grew, it found lots of other things that fit inside that same umbrella over [inaudible] mission that it wanted to do; right? And so they developed Wikiquotes. They started putting quotes in Wikipedia in the encyclopedia. >> Tom Merritt: [Inaudible] sort of a Bartlett's type of thing, [inaudible]? >> Sue Gardner: Yeah, and it spun off into a separate project because it deserved to be it's own thing, and it's linked to, obviously from the Wikipedia. And then there's, there's Wiktionary [assumed spelling], which is dictionary definitions for words. It's the only open source dictionary that I know of. And it's a spin off also from the Wikipedia. So we do, gradually develop a number, I think there are nine in total projects that we offer in a multitude of different languages. >> Tom Merritt: Now, and the Wikipedia, and most of these others are also available openly, so people can take the content, and they can do with it what they will. Is it a Creative Commons [assumed spelling] License, usually? >> Sue Gardner: No. It's the GFDL, that's what we use. >> Tom Merritt: It's the GFDL. >> Sue Gardner: Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: And what's the difference there? >> Sue Gardner: The difference, it's, it's very complicated, it's very complicated. >> Tom Merritt: But for the end users, if they're like well, I want to take it and use it, what are their limitations. >> Sue Gardner: The [inaudible] GFDL is that they have to inhere [assumed spelling] to certain conventions regarding the license, so there are things that they have to do. Fundamentally, [inaudible], they have to say where they got it from. They have to acknowledge that it came from this group of people. So they can take it, and they can use it in any way that they want. And the reason we let people do that, the reason we want people to do that is because we want the stuff to get out to real people around the world; right? So we want everyone everywhere to be able to access the material. And the best way to do is to take a handoffs approach and let them do whatever they want. They don't have to ask permission. They don't have to tell us. We don't even need to know. That's the easiest low friction way for the material to get everywhere. >> Tom Merritt: What is the trustworthiness of the content, that's always in debate; right? It's one of the great things, and then one of the things people don't like, which is this open for everybody, so anybody can put knowledge in there. But then there's also anybody can go and damage it, and vandalize it. >> Sue Gardner: Sure. >> Tom Merritt: How does that work? How do you keep it accurate? >> Sue Gardner: Yeah, and we've been, we've been fighting a bit of an uphill battle on this, because the project's actually, the information quality, what's in the projects is actually really high. Back in 2003, Nature [assumed spelling] Magazine did a study comparing us to Encyclopedia Britannica [assumed spelling]. >> Tom Merritt: Yeah, I remember seeing that study. >> Sue Gardner: And it's... >> Tom Merritt: You compared very well, right? >> Sue Gardner: Absolutely, yeah. And then since then, consistently study after study says we're remarkable creditable and reliable. And really the true answer to the question isn't, you know, it's not Wikipedia isn't reliable, it's nobody is 100% reliable; right? So everybody has errors, everybody has mistakes. Obviously the goal is to fix them as quickly as possible. We think the best way to fix them is to open the doors and let real people fix them in real time. And that's been proven true, we had a study released, I think by the Hewitt [phonetic] folks last year, which sort of supported the general notion behind the animating [assumed spelling] ideal behind the encyclopedia, which is mass collaboration. So what it said was, the longer an article has been ran, and the more people who've edited the article, the better it is, so that's a fundamental validation. >> Tom Merritt: How do you ensure those editors quality though? >> Sue Gardner: Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: I mean because there are places, things like Citizendium [assumed spelling] that actually like wallet [assumed spelling] off? >> Sue Gardner: Sure. >> Tom Merritt: But Wikipedia leaves it open... >> Sue Gardner: Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: And leaves it to anybody. So those are some systems that have developed, right? >> Sue Gardner: Yeah, [inaudible], sure. And so even simple things like, Watch this page; right? So people will in fact adopt certain articles and look after them, and sort of make sure that they've kept okay, and that they're not vandalized, and so forth. But also too, as the encyclopedia got a lot more popular the vandalism rate went up; right? >> Tom Merritt: Sure. >> Sue Gardner: It was much, much, more vandalism, which [inaudible] makes sense. >> Tom Merritt: [Inaudible]. >> Sue Gardner: Yeah, and there's more people coming. And it's much, much, more famous, and much better known, and so obviously that's going to happen. >> Tom Merritt: More [inaudible]. >> Sue Gardner: Yeah, so that did happen. And then what happened was the community responded by developing anti-vandalism bots [assumed spelling]; right? And so we saw a big spike in vandalism. And then we saw the vandalism go back down. >> Tom Merritt: Now, did these policies come from you or they come from the community? >> Sue Gardner: The community does everything... >> Tom Merritt: [Inaudible]. >> Sue Gardner: They do everything. Yeah, we just support, we facilitate the work of the community, but they do everything. >> Tom Merritt: I could talk to you all day long; unfortunately, we're running low on time... >> Sue Gardner: Sure. >> Tom Merritt: But, Sue, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have to have you back again... >> Sue Gardner: Sure. >> Tom Merritt: Because there's so much to talk about. >> Sue Gardner: Thanks. >> Tom Merritt: Appreciate it. Sue Gardner, Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation. Go check out, www.wikimedia.org, and see all the different things that they're up to over there. When we come back, a download of the week that will allow you to run third party apps on your iPhone today. >> Stick with us. ^M00:18:34 [ Music ] ^M00:18:38 >> Let's check the tech. >> Check the tech. >> Check the tech. >> Technology is leading the way, and I want to show you some tech highlights. ^M00:18:45 [ Music ] ^M00:18:50 >> CNET TV... >> Up to our necks in tech. ^M00:18:54 [ Music ] ^M00:19:12 >> Tom Merritt: Welcome back to CNET LIVE, Tom Merritt and Donald Bell taking your calls, answering your questions at 888-900-CNET, that's 888-900-2638. >> And lest [assumed spelling] you think you are out of opportunities to call, we actually have a few lines open, so you might want to pop on in there. >> Donald Bell: Come on in. >> Tom Merritt: Right now, it's time for the download of the week. ^M00:19:29 [ Music ] ^M00:19:32 >> Download of the week is brought to you by our good friends at CNET Download.com, purveyors [assumed spelling] of free spyware, free downloads. >> And today we're looking at ZiPhone. I am not just being French; in fact, I'm probably not even being French. >> Not remotely. >> Tom Merritt: You can [inaudible] ZiPhone. I don't what the preference is, but it is the second easiest way ever to unlock and jailbreak your iPhone. >> Whoo [assumed spelling]. >> Tom Merritt: So this is a, and actually it works on the iPod Touch, as well. Unlocking, for those of you who don't know is the ability to run the iPhone on a non AT&T network. And, of course, jailbreaking is the ability to run third party apps. So ZiPhone works on all the current firmwares for the iPhone up to 1.1.4, you download it there, and you get this lovely interface, [inaudible] move over here, so you can see it a little better. >> There it is. >> It's not as easy, I said it was the second easiest, cause it's not as easy as in like; I think it was 1.1.1, you could go to www.jailbreakme.com in the Safari browser on the iPhone. >> Oh really? >> And jailbreak it right from there. >> Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: This is the next easiest though because it's got a lovely interface here, you can actually unlock jailbreak and activate all at once. You can just jailbreak and activate. You can just jailbreak, or you can even restore it back to the way it was. Restore all the locks, and they call that refurbish [assumed spelling] [inaudible]. Have not yet done this to my iPhone. >> [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: I was waiting for today's announcement to find out when the third party apps were coming, because I didn't know if they were going to... >> Right. >> Tom Merritt: Release it today, or if it was going to be a [inaudible]. It's going to be June, so I might do this. >> If you want to jailbreak your iPhone, at least until June, this is the way to go, or at least one of the ones to go. >> Tom Merritt: One of our guys from Webware... >> [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: Josh has done this, and is raving about it. >> Josh shows me a new application everyday... >> Tom Merritt: Yeah, I know. >> That he does [inaudible] this. >> Tom Merritt: So anyways, ZiPhone, it's available at www.ziphone.org. We should say, I guess it's questionable legality, over this. I don't think it's necessarily illegal, but the unlocking on the cell phone network is sort of the more hazy [assumed spelling] part of it. >> It, it seems like the worst thing that's going to happen to you is that iPhone will come out with a new update, and it'll break your iPhone... >> Tom Merritt: Yeah, yeah. >> And then you'll have to wait maybe a few days until someone can undo that brick and [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: Before, yeah, before you rush out and do this, you know, be a little geeky [assumed spelling], be aware that you can mess up your iPhone and will definitely void your warranty. >> Yes. >> Tom Merritt: That is the bottom line; I can say that for sure. All right. Let's take some calls. On the line is Manuel. Hey, Manuel. >> Hello. >> Tom Merritt: Thanks, for calling. What's your question on CNET Live? >> Thank you. Hey, yes, I'm calling because I just purchased MAC; it's actually in transit right now. And I wanted to by an anti-virus software for it. However, I want to run Boot Camp [assumed spelling]. >> Okay. >> So I'm going to have two operating systems on it. I was wondering if I'd be better off buying two anti-viruses, or buying something that will take care of both, or, you know [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: Well, you're not going to be able to run one anti-virus on... >> That will take care of both... >> Tom Merritt: Both, without virtualization. >> Donald Bell: Yeah. I say if you're going to invest your money, go with the PC anti-virus software for when you boot under. >> Tom Merritt: Do you, you use a MAC? >> Donald Bell: I do. >> Tom Merritt: Do you use anti-virus on it? >> Donald Bell: No. I mean there's been so few viruses that have been made to, that will negatively [assumed spelling] impact the MAC. But if you're doing boot camp, and you're booting up that system into windows, then you're vulnerable. >> Yeah. >> Donald Bell: I mean having a MAC hardware doesn't make you any less vulnerable if you're running windows on it. >> Tom Merritt: Now, the best free one, if you don't want to spend any money is AVG anti-virus, as long as you're not a cooperation, or a big foundation that's going to deploy it across a bunch of computers, as an individual user, you can get it for free. That's actually the one I use, but let me look real quick, and see if I can find out what the Editor's Choice is. I want to say it was Kaspersky... >> [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: That was our last Editor's Choice for anti-virus. But I got to find out, yes, Kaspersky anti-versus, seven, was the Editor's Choice... >> [Inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: September 2007. So, you know, it's been a while, but there you... >> Donald Bell: And then on the MAC side of things, if you really did want to invest in an anti-virus program for the MAC, there's really the three name brands, you've got Mcafee Virus Scan, Norton Anti-virus, and there's one called Virus Barrier by Intego, that kind of come up when I do my MAC searches here for anti-virus programs. And they're also on www.download.com, so you can try them out. >> Tom Merritt: Does that help you out, Manuel? >> Yeah, well, I was just, so if I just want to buy one [inaudible] I'll be better off spending my money on a PC anti-virus, basically. >> I think that's definitely the case... >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Tom Merritt: I think Donald and I are in agreement on that. >> Okay. >> Tom Merritt: All right. Brian Cooley, as we mentioned is in Switzerland, eating chocolates, buying watches, doing some banking. And in between that, popping in into the Geneva Auto Show, where he has discovered a Concept car that comes with a robotic back seat driver, I am definitely intrigued. Fill us in, Brian. >> Brian Cooley: Well, Tom, I think here in Geneva, I found the perfect car for you. Look, it's gotten a freaking robot head on the dash; I know how much you love that. You know, how much I hate that. This is the Nissan Pivo 2 Concept car. The robot integrates the navigation system to the human. It prompts you along as you drive, even more then that though; it tries to keep you all happy. So if it detects that you're getting either stressed out [assumed spelling] by traffic, or if you're getting drowsy, it'll either make calming conversation with your, or suggest it's time for a little cup of coffee, and navigate you to a nearby coffee shop. >> Let's check it out. ^M00:24:53 [ Music ] ^M00:24:58 >> Now, check out the cabin. >> It's like a teacup ride at Disneyland, the whole round thing, spins around, so the car kind of doesn't really have a front in the conventional sense. The wheels are articulated both on their pivots [assumed spelling], as well as on these arms that can change their axis and their width on the vehicle. And, of course, the whole front of the cabin is the door where Mr. Robot Head lives, robot. Now, this car is a Concept, not going into production. A little more realistically, we've seen a car from a company called Koenigsegg [assumed spelling]. It's a super car, thousand plus horsepower, but it can run on E100, pure corn liquor, you and I know about that. Also, we're seeing a windshield that can clear itself of water and dirt without any wipers, using Nanotechnology. And Volkswagen is teasing us, terribly, with the return of the Sirocco [assumed spelling], which has a soft sport in a lot of folk's hearts. Not coming to the US, we don't think, but sweet looking ride, so all of these, and a whole mess of other cool videos from here in Geneva, all showing up on CNET TV in the car area. >> [Inaudible] talking about, I love that robot. >> That little robot's freaking me out. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> [Inaudible]. >> I don't know. >> All right. >> The googley [assumed spelling] eyes, them big ole googley eyes. >> Tom Merritt: Yeah, it was a little cutesy. >> Yeah. >> I have to say, I mean I love me a robot, Brian's [inaudible]. >> [Inaudible] person got road rage, that robot's going to be the first thing to get punched. >> You just going to punch it right in the face? >> You know that, yeah. >> Tom Merritt: Yeah, I have a feeling my wife might do that to that robot. I might do that to that robot too, just to be fair. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I could see it in any case. >> All right. Let's go to the phones. Let's take some more phone calls. >> Tom Merritt: All right. Who we got? We actually have a ZiPhone user, after we give that big, long warning. Is that correct, Jordan? >>Yeah, so... >> So tell us your tale of woe. >> Okay. So I just like two hour ago, weirdly, I did the ZiPhone on my MAC, to the Ipod's, [inaudible] iPod Touch. >> Un-huh. >> And it kept going hours and hours of the [inaudible], I think it said [inaudible] route name or something like that. It's restoring now. But I want to know why is it doing that, and how can I fix that? >> Tom Merritt: So you're stuck in an infinite loop? And that is one of the problems, I'm really glad you called, because it emphasizing that, you know, this unwarranted software, and stuff can happen every once in a while. You're probably just going to need to restore it; yeah? >> Donald Bell: Yeah, I think, looking back at the iTunes, and getting all your information back onto your iPod Touch is going to be the best way to go. >> [Inaudible]. >> I'd also double check to make sure that, before you tried the ZiPhone software that you're running the most recent firmware version on the iPod Touch too. >> Tom Merritt: It says, it will work on all Firmware versions... >> Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: But that's a good point, which is it was probably meant for 1.1.4. >> Yeah. >> Tom Merritt: So your mileage may vary. >> But I have 1.1.4. >> And you did have 1.1.4, for sure? [Inaudible] okay. >> Yeah, the [inaudible]. >> Tom Merritt: So you, do you know how to do the hard reset? >> Yeah, I actually I did that, it's resetting right now. >> [Inaudible]. >> [Inaudible] resetting. >> Tom Merritt: Yeah, so that's what I would do, I would reset it. I would plug into iTunes, and restore it. If you're super brave, you could give it a try again, and sometimes second time, for whatever reason these things will work, and they'll be fine. I've definitely heard of that. >> And I mean, there's other alternatives to how to jailbreak your iPhone, and your iPod Touch, as well. >> Tom Merritt: It's the only one I know for 1.1.4. Do you know another one? >> No, no, no. >> Tom Merritt: Okay. >> I though that we [inaudible]. >> You could downgrade [assumed spelling] the firmware though. >> You could downgrade the firmware though [inaudible]. >> I wanted to know... >> Yeah. >> On the MAC, I'm using, so I downgraded to 1.1.1, but I can't re-upgrade using Okprep [assumed spelling] because iTunes always opens, when I try to use Okprep, it opens at the end, and puts into restore mode, when I'm trying to, because I have, I brought the twenty dollar upgrade, and I want those apps. >> Tom Merritt: What's Okprep, do you know? >> No. >> Tom Merritt: What is Okprep? >> I'm not sure if it's Okprep, it's okieprep [assumed spelling] or something. It lets you upgrade your iPod touch back, to 1.1.4. >> Okay. I see. >> [Inaudible] puts it into restore mode after. >> Yeah, that's not, that's just not working for you then. >> Yeah. >> The other thing that just occurred to me is that formatting, you might want to try formatting your iPod Touch on a PC, and trying it that way, instead of, if you've using it negatively on the MAC, I think it might be doing MAC formatting on it, which might be an issue. >> Tom Merritt: That's a good ideal [inaudible]. >> That's another ideal to throw in there. >> I hadn't thought about that. >> Donald Bell: All right. Let's take another call. Thanks for calling. >> Tom Merritt: All right. Thanks, Jordan. Try a couple of those things if those don't work, give us an email or give us a ring back, or go to www.forums.cnet.com. Steve's on the line in California, hey Steve. >> Hi, how you doing? >> Tom Merritt: We're doing great. What can we help you with today? >> I just switched to MAC, and I love it, had it for about a month, but I was editing on my PC, using the W/Premiere [assumed spelling], and I have a lot of videos that I had imported from my camera. And I just switched to MAC, and now I'm using both iMovie and Final Cut Pro, but it's not reading the AVI files. And I was wondering if there's a way to read it or get it to... >> Yeah. >> Work, where I don't have to re-import my files. >> Yeah, our guys, actually behind the cameras here, are also editors. And so I, when I saw you question was coming up, I threw it to them, and Lawrence [phonetic] here, actually said, probably the best way for you to go, would be to convert the AVI's to QuickTime. And you can use a lot of different programs for that, on the MAC, you could download Handbrake for free, and just convert them. And then you should be able to take them into Final Cut Pro, no problem. >> Okay. Is it going to lose any resolution or anything off of the conversion process? >> Our technical director, see I don't, I can't answer any of that, see these are the experts all around me. Our technical director just said in my ear, make sure the frame rates are identical from your source to the conversions, so you're converting it the same frame rate, just to make sure that you get that same resolution. >> Also, I'm curious, the AVI files, are these files that you pulled from a PC, or you're pulling these off of a digital camera or something else that you might have. Just cause, the reason I bring it up, is that maybe, if they're encoded [assumed spelling] on a PC's in like DIV X, or something like that, you might want to get that codex installed... >> That's, I hadn't thought about that, that's a good [inaudible]. >> Donald Bell: On your, on the MAC, as well, that might help you import, import the video. >> Okay. I'm importing them through my network. I'm copying them from my PC through my network to my MAC. >> Tom Merritt: But how did you encode them on the PC in the first place? Is it [inaudible]? >> Oh, I imported them directly off the camera through Final Cut. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I'm sorry, I meant through W/Premiere. >> Through Premiere. >> I imported them. >> So it should just be a simple like Mpeg format video, so yeah, I don't know what... >> Yeah. >> The simple solution is for you. But, try, I mean, I think the simple solution is to try trans [assumed spelling] coding them, or converting them, see if you noticed an image quality loss. And if you can be happy with it, you know, just, it shouldn't be that big a deal. >> All right. Thanks, Steve. >> All right. Cool. >> Hope that works out for you, thanks for the call. >> All right. And now we're going to Best of the Web. >> [Inaudible] take Best of the Web. ^M00:31:51 [ Music ] ^M00:31:57 >> All right. >> So best of the Web, I am going to show you a new site called Animoto, hopefully, I'm going to show you this site. >> [Inaudible] it is. >> Animoto, Animoto is a, it's basically a way to create web movies based on photos [inaudible] a snappy little soundtrack. And this is going to be a Facebook application in the next few days, about to announce it at South by Southwest. It's a Facebook app. >> Well, hold on there, fancy man. So you take photos, and make a movie of it... >> Yeah. >> Then add a soundtrack, and then you could put it on Facebook? >> Yes. >> Wild. >> It'll be a native [assumed spelling] Facebook application. I made one here with photos I took from last years Megafair [assumed spelling]. And as you can, they do all kinds of snappy video editing cuts. And they... >> Now, did you choose all of these? >> I just chose a handful... >> [Inaudible]. >> Photos, and they, you know, in their little upload box. >> Okay. >> And they cut them all together and did all this all this, and there was really just a three-step process. >> So you don't do anything, and it makes it look fantastic. >> I don't do anything, I just figure, and you can upload your own music. Or you can choose music that they already licenses for use. And, yeah, this is going to be a pretty cool, little Facebook application. It's limited to thirty seconds, if you want to use it for free. If you want to do longer ones, you have to pay a fee, but I think most people are going to be happy with [inaudible]. >> You know, for small businesses that want to do like short presentations or put something up on a display in their business... >> Yeah. >> This is fantastic [inaudible]. >> I think the make or break thing is that the, the [inaudible] actually look cool and not cheesy. >> Yeah, and they look great. >> Yeah, so you can check it out at www.animoto.com >> Super Pro. >> Or you can see it on Facebook in just a few days. >> All right. Thanks, Donald... >> No, it's been a pleasure. >> I appreciate you coming in, like I said, I'm not coming in, I'm [inaudible]... >> [Inaudible]. >> With this Cooley not being here. He can do it without me next week. Actually, I'm headed off to South by Southwest; I've got a panel to do there. And then I'm going to Baseball Spring Training, so forget Cooley. But he will be here, talking to Michael Kanellos, who is fresh back from the Emerald Isle... >> [Inaudible]. >> He went to Ireland to investigate the texting [assumed spelling] there. And man do they have one. So they'll be talking about that, as well as taking your calls and questions at 4 p.m. Eastern, 1 p.m. Pacific, and 9 p.m. Dublin time. >> See you then. ^M00:33:58 [ Music ]