"Monitors: Part two"
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Monitors: Part two
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>> Alright good afternoon everybody. It's Editor's Office Hours' time. I'm Brian Tong here with Eric Franklin from Podcast's Inside of CNET Labs, right?
>> Inside CNET Labs.
>> Inside CNET Labs.
>> Remove the "of" there.
>> Okay, I'll take that out. And, then also, you know, what today we're gonna do is really any questions that you guys you wanna ask us, we will do our best to answer them. Eric's beat is the monitor beat, but also he's pretty hard core, you know, when it comes to games. We're talking about, what? Some digital comics like?
>> Yup. Watchmen digital comic which is awesome. It's great. [Laughter] It's--make me cry. It's great.
>> You Cry? Seriously? [Laughter]
>> Well, I cheered up.
>> We'll talk about that.
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>> Okay, so. What you guys need to do is if you're here in the chat you'll see there's a live chat with people watching all things. You guys just kind of bounce off each other. It's down below us. Over here in your right-hand box, you'll see a box to submit questions. You just need a profile with CNET. If you don't have one, you just create a username, a password and an e-mail. Send us in your questions. We're here. If you don't send us any questions, we're just gonna talk to each other about whatever we wanna talk about. And, Eric has a lot of stuff in the head about monitors.
>> Yeah, well. That might bore you. So, send in questions.
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>> Okay now, before we jump in at any questions. I guess, let's -- we kinda talked about this before but are there any -- just to get things started again, are there any fundamental things that people should care about or kind of fundamental specs that a monitor should have. Let's talk about maybe LCD specifically.
>> Yeah, yeah, sure. Fundamental stuff, I mean, as far as performance goes, it depends on what you're gonna be doing. But mostly you want a monitor that has the -- that is compatible with the resolution you're gonna be working at. So, if you have -- if you want a lot of screen real estate, you wanna get a larger monitor, right. So, you want a monitor that -- like a 22 or 24 inch. You know, I don't really recommend going 30 cause it's just huge and --
>> So massive, I guess that one.
>> Yeah, I mean it's huge, but if you're gonna be doing gaming you're gonna want a fast pixel response time.
>> What's there to get a fast pixel response time. I mean, I haven't gamed on my PC for a while personally.
>> And I used to care about that, you know, back in the day like when I did game but what is like a good range?
>> Right, right. Honestly, anything, you know, in the single digits is good. And even some, you know, 12 or 14, I mean, you still -- you still probably won't notice a difference. It's not really an issue anymore.
>> Uhmm, yeah.
>> To be honest, but I mean if you ever find a -- if you wanna a monitor for gaming the lower the better, for sure.
>> But, you know, you probably won't be able to find something in like the high teens or twenties or anything like that. Oh, we're getting a lot of questions.
>> Okay, yeah, yeah we are. Okay, now for you contrast ratio on the screens, what's a solid one?
>> A 1001 is good. Because really a lot of companies they use this, they do this trick where they have this new spec called dynamic contrast ratio, but it's just marketing speak really.
>> Like they get up to like 6,000 and 9,000 contrast ratio and the way they get that. I won't get too much detail on that cause we're getting a lot of questions in but the way to get that is that they implement a feature into the monitor that says when the monitor showing nothing else but a black screen the backlight will turn off. So, then they take a measurement when the backlight is turned off.
>> It's totally off.
>> Right, totally off. And then they compare that to the lightest white and then they get this huge contrast ratio.
>> Which is not totally accurate ratio.
>> Which is not real world. Because if you're looking at a black screen what are you looking at? But a black screen.
>> Yeah, yeah. [Simultaneous talking]
>> Who's gonna be doing that. Right. Exactly. So, that's how they get that and it's really misleading but anything a 1001 is great.
>> Okay. Cool. Alright. And then last one, I usually. You know, I don't know if it's as much of an issue now but DPI, I mean is that a really big deal?
>> The Dutch French.
>> Oh. Well, I mean -- does that really apply to monitors?
>> Well, when I was at least getting my cube monitors back in the day, there was like a big thing of having a hard to guide with LCDs.
>> No. I mean honestly, I haven't even seen that spec on most LCDs.
>> They don't like really [simultaneous talking].
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> Okay, okay. That's cool. Alright, so we'll jump in on some questions. We have this first one from IS from ChannelFlip and the questions is I got a Dell II 2408WFP and H24007WFPHC --
>> It's a great monitor by the way.
>> I can't get the color to match. Got any ideas for calibration other than the Spyder2 Express? I have that. So, yeah. I don't--
>> Maybe we should start off calibration like do you have any tips or, you know, products that people can use and --
>> I don't have any products. I don't use any products to actually, well, that's not true. I actually use this product called DisplayMate which we have along from the DisplayMate company. In order to actually buy that you have to go to DisplayMate.com. Not sure what the details is on that, not sure how much it cost cause we just get it, you know, along cause we work with them. But basically, what I'm doing, I don't really calibrate color when I'm testing the monitor. I basically calibrate the contrast and a little bit of the brightness. The problem with monitors in most computer monitors is that you don't have any access to the black level. You only have access to the contrast. You have access to the backlight but that is not necessarily the black level. So as far as color goes, I just usually choose the 66C500K color when I'm testing. Unless that looks bad, sometimes that looks bad like I got a the monitor this week that had a very yellowish hue in that color temperature so I switched it to 9300K. So, I'm not sure, like as far as those two Dell's go, I think they have color presets. Like they have warm, cool, movie, game that kind of stuff, depending on that. As far as calibration, deep calibration goes, I don't know you just have to play with that. I don't really have any other suggestions other than that. Sorry ES. But yeah you just have to kinda experiment with it. I'm not sure why you wanna -- why would someone wanna get them to match anyway?
>> I might be guessing if they're doing maybe some sort of a print or graphic design work. And they want their --
>> They want their old ones to match their new one. Yeah, that makes sense.
>> Yeah. That would probably be, you know, one of the reasons when people are you know, really concerned about getting their color calibrations. So, you know what? I'm not sure who else might be, I don't know if we really have a graphic design editor here at CNET, but if you have another question ChannelFlip or IS from channel flip. You can e-mail me at email@example.com. I sit right next to two of our graphic design guys and they might be able to have a few tips for you there. So just hit me up on my e-mail and we'll see if we can get some sort of answer or some sort of guidance. Right?
>> Cool. Alright, this question for some reason Dawn [phonetic] has infiltrated our system and has the ability to accept, he's asking -- why are you laughing? He's asking about.
>> Dawn gone rouge.
>> Dawn's asking you how big is your TV. You just got a new TV recently, is that why he's asking?
>> What did you get?
>> I got a 40-inch Samsung.
>> Yeah. It's fine for me 'cause I'm only like 8 feet away from my TV.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> So, that's 40 inches is great. That answer's that question, Dawn. Moving on.
>> What series is it?
>> It's the 850.
>> Okay, okay. Cool. Excellent. Alright, here's another question. We wanna go to Packgamer [phonetic] what is so great about an LED backlit monitor?
>> It's a good question. And I'm still trying to figure that out [laughter] actually. Because I got in one a couple of weeks ago and I compared it, I tested it next to the same exact form factor from the same company that had a CCFL base backlight and honestly, the difference was so subtle. The only difference that really stood out to me was the amount of eye strain I had while watching.
>> Yeah. [ Simultaneous Talking ]
>> But what's so great about it I guess is the potential of them, of the technology. You know, you can have thinner panels. They are more energy efficient. You can conceivably get brighter images like the backlight you know as far as the LED backlight versus CCFL it's I guess more customizable. Like you can get, you know, parts of the screen to go completely dark and then another part of the screen to be completely light 'cause there are a bunch of LEDs behind the screen instead of these tubes, you know, horizontally across the screen. So, the great thing about LEDs is the potential. It's gonna depend on how these companies implement this technology. I'm really looking forward to the Apple cinema display next year it's coming out that has LED backlight. So, once that gets in maybe we'll see something that's really worth talking about.
>> Like you said, just like with any new tech it's about them really leveraging what is there and really it takes, you know, it really takes about a year to believe for companies that really take advantage of this stuff once it's out on the market.
>> Yeah man, that happens with all technology. With game systems, CDs, you know, that always happens on the first few implementations of -- you know when games come out, the first few games are like. Oh that looks better than the last game.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Then you get a couple use entry level, oh my god it's amazing.
>> Yeah, just like the current games that are out right now. I mean they look ridiculous on [inaudible].
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> When they were very basic before.
>> Yeah, 'cause most of them were just porous, you know, it's like.
>> A little better graphics.
>> Right. We can do this, so we'll just put that in there but now they really learn it. They've really learned the technology and they can implement it.
>> Okay. Would you want to try, I haven't read over this at all.
>> Let's just give a look. You wanna just see some.
>> Okay. So here's a question from Benag89 [phonetic]. Could you explain the differences in some of the connections such as HDMI DisplayPort, et cetera also are there any new technologies that enhance using multiple monitors.
>> Uhm, good question. Okay, first part. HDMI is basically for HD base -- what do you call it --
>> Card ware.
>> Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, or content -- Basically HDMI port is for watching HD content. So, you can hook it up to your HD base game system, your Blu-ray player which is probably the same thing for most of you who out there. Your DVR based cable or satellite, or any other you know HD you know hardware that you wanna hook up. So basically, it's just a digital connection that can display. I mean, DVI does it too. The thing is about HDMI, I don't kinda remember what exactly the difference between HDMI, I mean there is a difference between HDMI and DVI. I'm trying to remember what exactly are the advantages of HDMI is. Well, I'll move on to the next part. DisplayPort. DisplayPort is a new technology that Dell has been pushing and Apple's starting to implement into their monitor technology now. Basically, a DisplayPort is a digital port and it not only includes the, it's not only for the graphics but it's also for sound. So every thing's funnel through DisplayPort. So, you'll probably start seeing more and more DisplayPorts especially since Apple is releasing one.
>> And Dell has in all their new monitors so display port probably is coming and it's gonna be implemented.
>> You know it kinda sounds like, well with HDMI, I mean, the main event is that you can also pump the sound through that single cable like for TVs and you know on a PS3 like it all, everything you don't have to have like the audio cables and the video cables separate with HDMI.
>> You get the sound through there.
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> Really? Okay, 'cause I only use monitors, I hardly use sound, so.
>> Yeah, I could get it through there with the HDMI it's kinda like the whole all in one.
>> Okay. So, the DisplayPort is the same thing.
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> So, what's the difference? It's a good question.
>> Oh, oh, so, HDMI typically like we'll see them on consumer electronics like a TV, like a PS3, like where it's display port from you know it's more like it's PC computer.
>> Yeah, yeah. I get that. But, ah, what a bad question.
>> Well, I always thought when you first seen DVI versus HDMI.
>> Right, right.
>> So, let's, if you don't have any display port, DVI, HDMI. HDMI can carry an audio signal through it.
>> Got you, right.
>> But then when we're talking about DisplayPort versus HDMI they're very similar.
>> I got to see that man. I think you're lying.
>> Am I lying? I don't think I'm lying. [ Laughter ]
>> Our producer over here is shaking his head saying I'm wrong, so.
>> Well, it's alright. We're, that's why we're here! We're a team man!
>> Yeah okay.
>> You know a lot of things that I don't know. I know a lot of things that you don't know. We're a team baby.
>> Right, good.
>> Okay, cool. Here we go, let's see. Let's go with this. I wanna get. This is from yohan -- yohan's dj.
>> That's amock.
>> Yeah. [ Laughter ] I wanna get a little into PC gaming and want to know a cheap way to get a gaming rigged and is the external graphics card a good way to go?
>> External graphics card? I think he means -- does he mean discrete graphics card?
>> Like a separate one?
>> Not integrated. Right.
>> Yeah not integrated on the motherboard, but it's on graphics cards.
>> I've never heard of an external graphics card. Anyway, you wanna get a PC gaming, you wanna know a cheap way to get a gaming rig, ah okay. Cheap way is just to, I say, I mean, you definitely probably gonna want a discrete graphics card if you want to get into gaming. And I think you can get a discrete graphics card for pretty cheap. The best way I've seen to get into cheap gaming is to just go to like Dell or HP and look up, you know, some of their rigs and like cause they have this things for like 500, 700, a thousand bucks. I mean if that's what you're talking about when you talk about cheap 'cause you can go much higher than that. What do you think about that?
>> I haven't been a PC gamer for a while.
>> Oh yeah. Right. I use to build machines all the time and I haven't built one in a long time cause of the pain in the A.
>> Pain in the A [laughter]. Pain in the B or pain in the A.
>> I don't know if we can get away with that so I just say A. But I would say just go to Dell or HP and look up their gaming rigs and try to get a discrete graphics solution seat, you don't want something that says integrated if you're gonna get into gaming. So you know, stay away from any integrated graphic solution. You'll probably have to pay a little bit more for a discrete one but it's nothing worth it.
>> I'm not on top of this but Anthony, our buddy says there are external video cards out there. I'm not familiar with them so I can't really speak on that. But, you know, there's the answer for that; we don't know if, you know, if an external graphics card is a good way though. I honestly just haven't dealt with that at all.
>> Yeah, me neither. I have to look into that now.
>> So, you know yohan just keep us posted you know send us another question maybe we may be we'll be able to actually answer that next time. [Laughter]
>> Or you can send it to me, I'll look it up you know. Efranklin or firstname.lastname@example.org.
>> Okay, here's a question from Apalits007 [phonetic], what determines an HD monitor? What benefits does it have over regular monitors?
>> I guess an HD monitor is just a monitor that you can view HD content on, something that's HDCP compatible. So, basically the benefits is that, just that. You can view HD content on it.
>> Higher re -- you know the higher enough resolution to support the HD.
>> Right. What's that, a 1920 by 1080, I think. It's the 1080dp HD but then there's the 720 as well which most people are interested in.
>> So, that's what determines an HD monitor. HDCP compatibility and you can watch HD content on it. I mean, I'm kinda getting bogged down now, but the thing about HD content, you can still watch it even if your monitor doesn't support 1080 it'll just scale the image.
>> So, if you want the true you know in its finest, you know beauty.
>> Right, right. Okay, that's cool. Now we obviously always have a video at Editor's Office Hours to give us a breather. You guys send us in your questions, so we can keep on cramming away at them when I play the video and what?
>> Prior placement [laughter]. I forgot this was here.
>> Same thing about monitors and other questions you guys have that we can hopefully answer. Send them our way and we'll get back to you soon, okay?
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>> Hi this is Eric Franklin on CNET.com and today we're looking at the Westinghouse L1916HW. Now you may be wondering why the display's turned off. Well the reason is 'cause almost every time I touch the side of the display, the display turns off. I hit the par button by mistake. As you can see the on-screen display buttons aren't really buttons at all. You see the bottom right side of the panel is the OSD. Don't even think about trying to calibrate this thing in a dark room though, with no tactile buttons you're probably just asking for headaches. Aesthetically the first thing that jumps out is that the display has a pretty unique-looking design. There's this fiberglass plate under the bezel here that reflects the white LED illuminating the Westinghouse logo. The foot stand continues this fiberglass motif and for such a small and light monitor the foot stand actually keeps it from wobbling too much when knocked around. The connection options include VGA and DVI. There's no HDMI here but the display is compatible with HDCP. There's no pivoting, rotation or screen height adjustment here but it does tilt back about 20 degrees. Although this monitor had decent performance in CNET Labs DisplayMate-based performance test real world performance was actually a little bit more impressive. Kill Bill volume 1 looked colorful and sharp with nice deep blacks. The display actually includes a dynamic contrast ratio option but when we turned it on we didn't notice any difference in the screen brightness or contrast when going from a dark to a light scene. You can find this monitor for as low as 160 bucks at BestBuy and it's hard to argue with that kind of price especially when you're getting decent to good performance as you are here. If you are gonna market for a 19-inch, I say give it a look. But make sure you're comfortable with the warranty before purchasing. For more information, check out our in depth review. Once again, this is Eric Franklin and this has been the first look at the Westinghouse L1916HW.
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>> Okay. Alright guys. Welcome back. Hopefully you like that video that's about a Westinghouse monitor.
>> I think so, yeah. It's actually good. [Laughter] What? That's what I've been told. I don't know, I don't know what you're looking at. So, yeah. It's actually a really good monitor. It's super cheap. You can get it if you can have access to BestBuy, you can get this 19-inch monitor that actually performs really well for 160 bucks.
>> Wow! That's -- 19-inch for 160?
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Solid. Okay. Here's a question from Jimmy. He asked, we kinda touched upon it but maybe your other additional thoughts. Please talk about OLED. Oh we talked about LED, this is different OLED. This is more with TVs. Please talk about OLED and what we can expect. I've been able to see a few of these, but do you have any thoughts on that?
>> I don't have any thoughts, I only like to hear what your thoughts are.
>> Well, I don't know if you've seen OLED displays in person but they make HD look even more like HD if that's possible. I mean the contrast ratio on these things are ridiculous.
>> Is this like as far as clarity goes or?
>> Yeah, image clarity as well as release contrast ratio that's about what I think. I don't wanna say but of the top of my head for some reason I think you can get up to 10,000 to 1 contrast ratio on OLED displays.
>> Or at least the manufacturer can get that in there.
>> Yeah, yeah. [Simultaneous talking] So, the main thing, it pops right, but also -- obviously there a lot of thinner displays. I don't think we're gonna be, sure you can get a Sony has their like, I think, it's a 7-inch or an 8-inch OLED display but it was around 2,000 dollars so obviously the technology is so new that it's gonna cost a lot of money to even be able to think about these sitting in your living room. Samsung recently did a release kind of a prototype of a 40-inch LCD and when I was at CES last year, I think Samsung at least showcased off something around a 30-inch OLED but realistically if you're expecting OLEDs to be kind of in a consumer friendly price point, I don't see that happening for another at least two to three years where you're getting into a range of like somewhere around -- gees, even like, you know, 3,000 to 4,000 dollars. I mean if you can imagine a 7-inch screen right now, OLED is 2,000 bucks right now.
>> For how much? For how long? For how big?
>> 2,000. 7-inch -- it's around, 7-8 inch screen. Sure, it looks beautiful but no one's gonna watch, it's almost like having a little TV by the corner of your bed but other than that, you know, it will allow us to have a lot more, if you're really talking about mounting a display on your wall, these things, it was -- gees, looks like a quarter of an inch thick, this display. So, it's amazing.
>> But it's still 7 inches.
>> Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The screen is really thin it's amazing to see but it's so out in the future to me that I don't even think of it as a viable option for me to even dream about having an OLED display anytime soon. Now, if you guys have any other comments you know, on OLED stuff. Pop 'em in our chat, submit this question or maybe like a point that I missed or you know like your dude Brian you're dump about that, but ah.
>> Or you're completely boring Brian, you're boring my head off because you talked about OLED monitors for the last five minutes. [Laughter]
>> Hey, I'm trying to feel tired baby. Okay. Let's see. Let's go here. This is from Vanguard12345 [phonetic]. Hey guys, what do you think of the 24-inch Samsung monitor.
>> Oh, the 24-inch Samsung monitor, that one?
>> Is it "the".
>> I'm just making fun of him 'cause there's a lot of 24-inch Samsung's out there. By the way I'll talk about the one I know about. It's the T240HD which is an excellent monitor. It's great for movies. It has -- it's basically a TV disguised as a monitor so, it has a bunch of connections that you want in a TV like HDMIS2, HDMI ports, has a DVI port. It has some over the air antenna stuff, supporting all that comes up. The only bad thing, oh it's pretty cheap. I think it's like 4 or maybe 500 bucks. The only bad thing about that is that the screen is a little bit dim when you're like using it like for office stuff or whatever the backlight just doesn't get that high. But it's a great monitor. So there you go.
>> I think another question on there that said something about -- another one.
>> Just like quick jumping on Elias said from what they read and I just checked. OLED can potentially get up to 1 million to 1 contrast ratio.
>> That's mind boggling. So, that's why HD looks, I mean. [ Simultaneous Talking]
>> Well, you know, I am very skeptical about those kind of claims. You know, it's like it's always the technology has potential to do this, but when we see that kind of stuff, you know, it always the proof is always in the plate.
>> All I'm saying is once you see the screens like seriously.
>> I'll be a believer. Is that what you're saying? [Simultaneously talking]
>> I was juicing over this stupid 7-inch display and then guess 2,000 bucks.
>> Brian was juicing, I'm not sure what that actually means, but. [Laughter] Let's move on.
>> I don't wanna touch that man. [Laughter]
>> Oh, AMD is actually, supposedly according to Orlando. AMD has actually come out with external video card. So, I have to check that out. I have no nothing about external video cards.
>> Okay. Excellent. So, here we go. This one is a nice personal question for Eric. I like this. Eric, do you do any gaming? What do you play?
>> Do I do? Do I do gaming?
>> Yeah, do you game? Do you do any gaming?
>> I used to be a huge gamer. I used to be huge on every, I spend every consul. I used to be, I play a lot of PC games and then in 2004 Warcraft came up and unfortunately that's all I've been playing for the last four years. I mean, I'll double. I got to play TCA the last one. What's it called?
>> Liberty City.
>> No the one on the -- anyway, it doesn't matter.
>> The new one with the European guy.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's a funny thing, I had it but I sold it 'cause I couldn't get into it.
>> Really? You didn't like what you're seeing, come on.
>> No, no, no. I'd like the Grand Theft Auto, sure it's awesome. But after playing Grand Theft Auto in San Andres and how fun that was. The newest Grand Theft Auto 4, it was more story-based and deeper but it didn't capture me like right off the bat. Oh - oh -- who's playing the piano man?
>> I don't know? That's my girlfriend.
>> Okay now, you guys know. For the people who're asking Eric Franklin, he actually last time I think you said you had a girlfriend. But that's the proof that he actually does have a girlfriend. She called his phone.
>> Right. Yeah, she's calling my phone.
>> But anyways, let's go back to you about game. Yeah. I'm sorry I wasn't' a huge, I couldn't get wrapped up in Grand Theft Auto 4. Okay. Back to you.
>> Alright. What? What do I play? I play Warcraft.
>> What flavors of Warcraft?
>> Well, World of Warcraft basically. All I've been doing is waiting the Wrath of Lich King expansion. I'm very excited about it. I'm going to midnight lunch.
>> Oh you are? Are you gonna dress up? [Laughter]
>> Yeah, sure. I'll just. I can't do that. I just can't.
>> Dude, dude, do it.
>> I don't wanna be like the black nerd. You always get like one guy who's like the black nerd and this guy is like, I mean this guy -- it's like. [ Laughter ] I'm sorry but I yeah I'm not doing that. I'm not going there man.
>> So, you're just saying the undercover black nerd. You're not that --
>> Right. Right. See I'm still kinda cool, you know, at least I think so.
>> You know what, when you have to say I'm cool. I don't know. Don't say that. I'll say, you're cool.
>> Eric is the man.
>> Yeah, I'm cool. You know I know what the kids are into these days like Brian.
>> Black -- kids. Is that how you see me?
>> Brian's like 10 years younger than me. He's like a little kid.
>> Oh my gosh, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, but yeah, you're a big World of Warcraft guy.
>> Yes. I'm a huge in World of Warcraft. I just got my world locked up to level 7A. I have other couple of 7As but I just got up to 7A and playing a lot of PDP which is awesome right now 'cause everyone is over power. It's great. Anyway, do you something else or you want me to keep talking about this?
>> No, no. Well go, we'll take this question. See if you have any thoughts. Do you think a bunch of little displays like those with Microsoft slide show is as good as a giant monitor? So, maybe talking about arrangement? Or they're talking about arrangement of displays are as good as a giant one?
>> I would say no. Because of the bezel. Personally, I'd rather just have a full screen that isn't like you know there is no bezel between each, you know two levels between each display, each screen.
>> It really depends on you know if you're with a company that is trying to promote a product like a wall, like down in our lobby we have this 3 by 3 massive they're like 9 or 42-inch screens or something like that and if you're trying to showcase, you know, maybe like you're a large company and do something like that sure that's fine but from a home use.
>> I mean, unless you wanna be the guy from matrix, you know that.
>> Or the guy from grandma's boy. [Laughter] Ever seen that movie?
>> Dude! I mean.
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>> The guys that like on this -- yeah, I won't go there.
>> But I don't I mean, that's really a personal thing, personal preference.
>> Oh, if you have aspiration of taking over the world. You know, it might be good. Have a bunch of displays each display is a part of the world.
>> If you're a security guy. [Simultaneously talking]
>> There you go, too. Yeah.
>> Okay. That's cool.
>> So, don't do it. And plus our screen in the lobby looks bad. I don't care what anyone says. All those monitors together, the resolution is bad, so.
>> Okay, here's a question I think I might be help a little bit with. How much load does Adobe Photoshop CS3 place on the graphics card of a computer. Is it necessary to have a high-end card or is most of the load put on the RAM of the computer.
>> So, from personal experience I don't know exactly how much load CS3 actually does put on the graphics card. So, you know with any multimedia program you really want obviously a higher enough performing graphics card that can help you. But to me, it's all at the RAM to help even open up if you're dealing with really, really large, I almost said large ass. But I just did now. [Laughter] Large files, the RAM is really is what is gonna help you, so you need to pump your RAM up as much as you can. Whether it's all the way, I mean some desktops get up to light, you know, ridiculous like, you know, like 16 gigs. I don't know even if there's 32 gigs on some desktops, but ultimately go with the RAM if you have a good enough video card that's the RAMs were it's at.
>> I said the RAM thing like four times. Yeah, RAM is where it's at.
>> So, rammed in? [Laughter]
>> Is this Eric or is this dumb talking to me.
>> Alright. [Laughter]
>> I mean I am not a super high-end Photoshop guy but I dealt one like around a 7-8 on a scale of 10 with Photoshop stuff.
>> Oh yeah?
>> Oh yeah. That's like my Photoshop thing. So anyways, it's 12 o'clock guys. Sorry we weren't able to answer all your questions but if you have any more additional questions like that.
>> I think you did great. You did great.
>> Eric.email@example.com and Brian is sorry that, you know, he bores you with the OLED story, so.
>> Whatever. I thought that was actually excellent information.
>> That was good. That was great.
>> Presented in a concise and entertaining way.
>> I don't know about concise. [Laughter] Entertaining, uh.
>> You have four minutes. Okay guys. Let's see, we'll be back here on Monday. Editor's Office Hours, same time 11:30 AM, 2:30 PM if you're in the East Coast. Now, Dome your partner in crime from Inside CNET Labs.
>> Some say.
>> Is gonna be in the studio or in our set. Dome chose to talk about online dating. This is gonna get crazy.
>> Yeah. This is gonna be great. I think I might have to have some--oh-oh.
>> He's not?
>> He's not? Oh. [Inaudible]
>> Okay, my mistake. It's gonna be about backing up. Backing that thing up.
>> So you know, backing your hard drives. I think like 9 out of 10 people don't back their stuff up still and it's stupid.
>> He has a lot of information on this. It's a good topic actually. But then after that, then we'll do.
>> If you wanna ask him about online dating. [Laughter]
>> You can ask any question you want, actually.
>> Okay. Anyways, thanks for coming dude.
>> Alright man.
>> Black nerd in the house. We'll see.
>> You didn't have to do that.
>> You started it man. [Laughter]
>> Alright, we'll see you guys next time.
>> Right man.
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