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Lights, camera, Amazon in CNET UK podcast 418Apple is boosting Beats by buying a music-measuring service, Starbucks will charge your phone by magic, and the X-Files could return.
[MUSIC] Hello and welcome. You're listening to CNET UK Podcast. And the steps 418 for Friday the 23rd of January, 2015. Amazon is getting into the movie business. But can anyone really challenge Netflix? First, we meet Apple's latest purchase. Charge out phones by magic in Starbucks, and things are getting strange, I'm starting to worry, could it a case when Moulder and Scully. I'm Rich [UNKNOWN] joining me on [UNKNOWN] this week is, Luke [UNKNOWN] [MUSIC] I want to believe we're not alone. [LAUGH] [UNKNOWN] And also a word from Dandy Hall, hello. Hello, that's, how you say hello, repeat the word. From the front speaking [INAUDIBLE] Hang on let me give it another go, Say hi to me. Hi. Hi. Keep working on that, keep working on that we are back filming this podcast so if you've missed our ugly mugs cuz we've only done audio recently you can still enjoy the rest of our videos on cnet.com or yourtube.com/cnet. And we do look good actually. [INAUDIBLE] a new haircut everything. You do. Yeah it's like the old one only smaller. Yeah. [LAUGH] Let's just start the News. [LAUGH] [MUSIC] Gonna start by telling you what Apple has been up to. [CROSSTALK] What has Apple been up to? Well, what it's done, guys, Yeah? is called Music Metric.>> [CROSSTALK] Now if the name didn't give the game away, just a little bit there. Music Metric is a UK company, actually, and they're basically. Gives all kinds of analysis on music downloads so download amounts and things like reviews. Also actually about piracy like we're actually pirated [CROSSTALK] Yeah that's true so it's kind of, it's a very modern phenomenon I guess, it's they, they don't really look at sales and streaming things, the sort of things that would have been measured by the charts previously the sort of things that are actually bringing in cash [CROSSTALK] Right. Music. They also look at pirate activity. People are torrenting certain songs, if people are torrenting certain songs or artists. They look at reviews, they look at comments, they look at other social buzz on the social networks. So, which doesn't bring in cash. But it assumed to have currency in these, in this day and age. So it's been more [INAUDIBLE] so anyway. So that could be like a good way of, of giving like a actual proper music chart instead of just on sales, it's on everything. Like it's all encompassing. What if, like, the UK top forty, we will know. [CROSSTALK] Well, yeah, but, you know. Including all these things that really matter about music. Maybe [INAUDIBLE] I guess this is in the runups because Apple having bought Beats and Beats, what was going to be their streaming service. Beats music. Beats music, yeah, which is sort of, a runup to Apple launching that. [CROSSTALK] That was ages ago they bought Beats. I completely forgotten it happened. << Yeah, yeah, it was millions and millions of dollars. <<when are="" they="" going="" to="" do="" something="" with="" it?="" <<="" [inaudible]="" well,="" i="" think="" what="" they're="" is="" follow="" beats="" music="" into="" itunes="" in="" someway.="" i'm="" assuming="" matrix="" will="" be="" a="" part="" of="" that.="" but="" we="" wil,="" uh,="" find="" out="" soon.="" [crosstalk]="" from="" ingesting="" the="" fruit="" lovely="" beans="" through="" your="" ears.<="" div=""></when>. We're ingesting the fruit of lovely beans through your mouth via I'm glad you said mouth [LAUGH] Via coffee and more specifically Starbucks obviously. I've seen where fifty screenwriters are really earning their money this week Yeah. Well that was good [CROSSTALK] obviously everyone knew what I was doing there. basically, Starbucks is bringing its wireless charging, via Powermat, from San Francisco, into London, in some of Starbucks stores. Actually, Luke, you were at the launch for this today. Yeah. Why don't you tell us more, with your caffeined up,. I went to a Starbucks in London to, to see how this works. Okay. Actually, Brit, so basically what happens is that,. The, the tables in Starbucks have these, these glossy pad things that are about the size of coasters, that they embedded in the, in the tables. And,- - Coasters, la-di-da. La-di-da. [CROSSTALK] No rings on my coffee table. How do we? Anyway. [LAUGH] Yeah and then you, so you need like a, a, a wireless charging dongle thing. Mm-hm. Which are these colorful little hoops. Which have a little connector on them. And then- Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait! Yeah, let me. [INAUDIBLE] Yeah. So you basically go up to the till and you borrow one of those, you plug it into the bottom of your phone and then you just rest it over the, the pad so the hoops on the pad and it charges your phone wirelessly. Okay so hang on, let me get this straight [CROSSTALK] Wireless charging which is supposed to be a technology that does away from the need for, for wires and chargers so you just clonk your phone down to. Yes. And you have to. Borrow a charger. okay, that works. Nailed it. All right, well we will get to all the reasons why, why you're wrong to be unexcited. But first I will concede that commenters do agree with you. Okay.>> They're not impressed. All the right commenters. The duck, the duck of death is on your side. [LAUGH] Always a powerful ally to have. [LAUGH] Said that might be the dumbest invention yet in all the history of inventions. A wireless charger you connect. To the charge report. Hm. Meanwhile general stuff [INAUDIBLE] that's his military rank. Says to be honest if I can't use my phone comfortably while it is charging which I can't if it has to sit flat against a table I would rather have a wire. That's a good point. Okay right, and so here's the reason why. It, it's stupid to criticize it. Mm? First of all, wireless charging only does, only promises to do away with the need for wires- Mm-hm. Which this does so- Okay. You can't accuse it of, of being misleading. Okay. Secondly, it's not like there was an alternative. It's not like they've. Taken away all of the wired chargers they had in Starbucks, OK. Springing out of the tables, and now this is all you've got. Like, So now, instead of like, one power point, you could have like, Yeah, yeah. as many as four or five phones docked up on the table. [CROSSTALK] Yeah, exactly, like, people don't have their phone chargers with them, there are only a few wall sockets and everything. And these, this is something that's like, there's loads of them all through the, all through the shop kinda, loads on the desk. And also that there's no fee for borrowing one from Starbucks. If you, if you want to save time on repeat visits you can pay a tenner. Mm. And then it, it's yours to keep. And they're quite- Oh, so you don't just walk out with it. Definitely don't just walk out with it. That's- Yeah. I mean, who would do that? Yeah it's awful. You did mention luke that, you know, they're not doing away with all the wires coming out of the table and stuff. Yes. Why is this better than having wires coming out of tables? [CROSSTALK] You can plug it in and actually keep using your phone, you don't have to [CROSSTALK] Yeah but then there's only a limited number of sockets and that's why you go into Starbucks there's always one person who's turned up and bought like a Yeah, hogging it. half a green tea and is sitting there. I said 75 hours working on that screen play. Also things like cables poking out of the table is, is kind of ugly. [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] Exactly. No okay you've, you've turned me around actually and also we have the an endorsement from Mark our producer you'll never see who's just come back from San Francisco and he has seen it in action [CROSSTALK] Yes, they are, they are already rolling this out to 2000 San Fransisco Starbucks I believe It's going to be in every Starbucks. [UNKNOWN] no, [UNKNOWN] ten Starbucks in London. [LAUGH] But, it's [UNKNOWN] first wave, so they've started new [UNKNOWN] it's like, it's now spreading pretty rapidly, Ok. It seems to have worked over there, other people, take to it, in these ten Starbucks in London. [LAUGH] For the record, I think this is completely, the most stupid way of doing this, that I've possibly ever heard. Let me give you one more reason, why, why it isn't. So, while it's charging, it [UNKNOWN] with drama, at the moment, you wouldn't believe it, because it's so interesting. But there's all these different standards, there's like the Qi standard the Q-I Yeah. It's spelled. And there's the PMA and then there's another one I think. These use the PMA standard. Isn't that the rubbish one that no one uses. But it doesn't matter what they use because you plug in this sort of [CROSSTALK] Oh yeah you get a charger. [LAUGH] Yeah, and then, and then everything works with it so it, so it doesn't matter what kind of. You don't have to, like iPhones work which don't have any sort of wireless charging. Russian capability. Okay. And let's face it, we're the ones probably loads of you in Starbucks want to charge this for. That's true. So, so, so really quick. Is there a phone, can you, off the top of your head can you think of any phones that do have wires charging you can use with this? No.>> [LAUGH] Cuz I can think of phones with wires charging. They have. You know, they use, they use [UNKNOWN] right? Yeah. [CROSSTALK] Yeah, LG. Yeah. G is at least by far the most popular one. [LAUGH] So you could have gone with [UNKNOWN]. G nailed it. And actually had it done properly, but- No, [UNKNOWN] like, no one, no one has the wireless charging phones. Uses their phone, what like uses that capability or like, I don't, I think nobody does But that's because they have to buy a separate wireless charger but if [UNKNOWN] not building into tables and things which is what they need to do in order to make wireless charging a thing. [CROSSTALK] You have a, your theory on [CROSSTALK] Well I think yeah, I, I, I think that, the. Cuz we always, always complaining about battery life being so poor on phones but I think wireless charging is actually going to make that, the argument a bit null really. Cuz you won't if you have wireless charging built into everywhere you go, so if you go to Starbucks you put your phone down on the table it automatically charges. You'll buy desks for the office so it's already built in and for libraries and schools. And whatever. So wherever you go, you put your phone down. It will just charge constantly in small bursts throughout the day. So you don't need your battery to last more than a day or even more than half a day cause it will always be charging. Alright, so you don't have a, have to do one like big charge overnight and leave your phone to. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] And I hope that you'll get [CROSSTALK] No. [CROSSTALK] One thing that I have to say and I don't care [CROSSTALK]. there's, like, Starb-, on a practical level, Yes. No one currently uses wireless charging even though it's a very cool technology. It's been around for years. No body uses it. Yeah. Starbucks sort of, basically, made wi-fi in cafes a thing. Mm-hm. That was sort of, that was something that I believe they pioneered. Okay. So they [UNKNOWN] You said Starbucks Yeah, Mr. Starbucks himself [LAUGH] Came down with his big. Big [LAUGH] Uncle Sam top hat [UNKNOWN] seven years ago [LAUGH] we invented wi-fi [LAUGH] in coffee shops, look I, I'm saying they've got the clout to sort of make something happen Okay So Well to be fair actually it is, it is good that someone is kind of getting. Getting at, getting ahead of the curve and doing it even if they are really making a mess of it. But you know, good on you Starbucks. Hooray. How many score and seven years ago was it actually? Oh, some, some. Anyway, but since this podcast is falling out of control all ready. All right, all right. Andy, what is happening in the world of. That's a good one. Well, bad news in the world of Google Glass. Google is going to stop selling it. Oh, dear. Yep, so, is it dead? No, it's not dead. What it's doing is just not having it sell anymore. Ha ha! It's not dead! It's just not for sale. But it will be continuing working on it and working developers, and. Hopefully this will be for future editions of, or using the technology for other things. Well this is, so you're kind of a fan of the concept of, of, of the kind of the, the principle behind Glass, if not necessarily the technical hardware itself. I am, yes. I think that Google Glass as a, as an idea, the idea of having this sort of weird. Futuristic concepts and giving it out to all these developers trying to crowdsource these ideas and crowdsource the development is a really good idea. Public beta test. Exactly yeah it means they can filter down some cool ideas with technology in voice control and voice recognition into things like Androidware which is on sale. But I do think that charging 1500 pounds for glass, em, is a bad idea Hm. and I don't think people should buy that. I think it should of just been used for testing, only. Absolutely, and, I think readers, agree with you on the. The bad idea. [LAUGH] Oh, yeah, but they do. James_garden says if a stranger walked up to you, photographed, filmed you, then walked away, how would you like it? How about doing the same to your children? I'm glad Google Glass is gone and the idiot who invented them should start looking for more worthwhile ways to spend his time. Damning from James Gardner. Mm-hm. Empire says I'm a technophile and love all things technological, but Google, but Google Glass crosses a line that shouldn't be crossed. I'm glad we won't have to say the words Google Glass again. It is quite difficult. Google Glass. Google Glass is gone. I mean, you know, even if I was sober right now, I would probably struggle with it, frankly, but,. I mean I can't say it sober. [LAUGH] Yeah. JSCP says Google already owns all JSCP. JSCP. How is old JSCP these days? He's fine. Well he's angry. Google already owns all your personal files if you use their email or Google Glass. They own every minute of your day and every move you made. Big Brother and Skynet rolled into one. And that's not overstating it. And, well even the people who like Google Glass have their reservations so [UNKNOWN] says, I love the idea of Google Glass and would definitely use it, however no one wants a Borg. Sitting opposite them, so it needs to be made much more discrete. Right. But the good news is, it's not going to be made much more discrete, or indeed, made at all, so. Well, they're going to keep working on it, so we'll,. I don't think we'll ever see. We'll see it. I don't think we'll ever see it again. Really? Do you think? Well Google can't say, like we're scrapping it because actually, it turns out,. So you know, like, not selling it anymore, and, definitely a dead technology, definitely a [UNKNOWN] We'll see something similar, and I certainly think the technology will, [UNKNOWN]. We filtered down into, we do have Android Wear. watches. I have one right now, and that's using a lot of the voice recognition technology that Google's been developing, and Glass is part of that because it obviously relies on voice control and stuff. So, yeah. Well, weren't we gonna move on to a bit of technology that's, is, a bit more popular. Yes, we're gonna talk about. space probe news! Space probe news! Now, Rich, actually, you have some good space probe news. I'll tell you what, it's kind of, it's good news and bad news in a way, to be honest. so, the good news is that, the, the Beagle Two probe has been found. Not only did it make it to Mars just like it was planned, it [UNKNOWN] it's bang on target, so it had this, this,. It's a space probe that was built by the European Space Agency backed by, it was a British led team. And their target area was 500 kilometers by 100 kilometers. And they were a mere five kilometres away from the center. Wow. So that's, in space terms that's a proper bulls eye. Amazing. The bad news, obviously, is that they lost touch with it about ten years when it actually landed. Mm-hm. And it's basically naked [UNKNOWN] [LAUGH]. [LAUGH] They landed in exactly the right place, but, but it, it looks like it's mostly intact, but, the, basically, the antenna doesn't, didn't, didn't unfold properly. So the, so the space antenna hasn't popped out. Which seems like a little bit of a design flaw, but I'm not rocket scientists, so,. Time to, time to send out Beagle 3, the repair beagle. Absolutely. Well, there are,. There is, there is Tokyo dress agency. [CROSSTALK] Beagle three, the clumps. [LAUGH] Beagle three, beagle harder. Beagle three, cruise control. [INAUDIBLE] [CROSSTALK] So yeah there so there is gonna be another probe sent out in I believe 2019 by the European space agency and there are a couple of other probes already wondering around the [CROSSTALK] Well there's also the European space agency that did the whole. Comet London as well. So what a year for space exploration it has, has been. Speaking of space exploration in a very tangential way. What, what more flaky than my segue earlier. The X-files that apparently may be going to be hitting our TV's again in 2015. So which, apparently, Fox executives have been in conversations with Chris Carter, the producer and the writer. To to bring it back. So that's good news right? Absolutely, and it stars Gillian Anderson and David Duchovney. I like oh Okay mn mn mn. Yeah. Cool, well if you like Yeah, yeah, which is, which is pretty cool. actually, good thing, it was weird cause Gillian Anderson was on, the Nerdist podcast last week, before this came out I think, actually, this other news. And she was saying that she'd be really keen on doing it, and. Thinks that David Duchovny would be, so, yeah, I think that's really, that's really cool news. You'd like to see the story continue, wouldn't you? I would love to see the story continue. I'm a big fan of X-Files. It's a great show, and. Yeah, I like the movies as well then, because they, they progressed the storyline a bit in the movie, I think, in the last one. It turned out that Mulder and Scully actually got married, except it wasn't in there in the series. [CROSSTALK] So it'll be good to sort of see what position they are, whether they're still in the FBI, and whether they're like, hell, maybe Mulder's in charge of it all sort of thing, or who knows? I'm. [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, Luke. I'm, I'm not, not sure. I, I think the first thing to say is that, that like, the X Files is finished but its spirit definitely lives on. Like there are, there are shows like Warehouse 13. Fringe springs to mind, which do feel like a sort of modern reimagining of of the X-Files. Mm. They kind of deal with similar themes but it's a much, they're more modern and they're fresher TV shows. True. And actually I think that, that the X-Files is very much of its time. And if you tried to do it in a sort of mo, modern, modern way like it, it, it just wouldn't work. I mean I do remember watching, I recently watched the first season again cuz I only. Watched a couple of them at the time when it was on, I never actually seen the whole thing so I, I thought I'll, I'll go back to Netflix and I'll watch it and I was watching a few of the earlier episodes and I was thinking do you know what? This show would be over if [UNKNOWN] just had a mobile phone Yeah And a digital camera. Well eh, every time he breaks into some sort of sec, top secret government base it ends with someone stamping on his camera and it's like [LAUGH] oh well nevermind. Next time we'll get the prof. [INAUDIBLE] just be snap chatting it. But there'll be no point to snap chatting it because the NSA will be intercepting that and it's like the, the x files was like this kind of fun like ooh imagine if there was a government behind the government. And now we know that there is and they're not doing fun things like. Hiding aliens. [LAUGH] Yeah. And, and stuff like that and like, like dra, like downing the, the crazy submarines full of weird space diseases and- Yeah. And stuff like that. They're just like looking at your Snapchats all the time. That, that's fine when it's, and torturing people. [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, exactly like. It's pretty grim. Yeah. So, keep it in the 90's, aren't they? Yeah, I mean, it, it was a little bit fondly, absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Hm. Yeah. huh. Okay, I mean, well, another thing, so Twin Peaks is coming back in a year or so and that feels to me like another show that kind of belongs in its time. I don't know if it belongs in the modern age. But, who knows? Who knows? Maybe. I don't think Twin Peaks belongs in any age. Just so weird. [LAUGH] It could be, ver, you know, it could be set in like sixty, it could canonically be set in the 16th century, and everything happens exactly the same. And you'd be like this isn't any weirder than Twink Peaks is already. New, new fan theory, I like that. I like that. [LAUGH] It all happens in a medieval monastery. [LAUGH]. Well, you know, I mean. Speaking of TV, it's been quite a big week for original programming, on, on various different services like Netflix and Amazon and that type of thing which we're going to talk a bit about right now. [MUSIC] Lights, camera, Amazon. Amazon is getting into the movie business. Amazon instant video service has already started funding and showing TV shows to tempt viewers away from Netflix. And next, is planning as many as 12 movies a year that will appear in cinemas first, then go on line as. Little as a month later. Now 2015 is going to be a bumper year for original content produced by Amazon, Netflix, and the like. Netflix has hits with House of Cards and Orange is the New Black. And it's also launching its most ambitious project yet, four interconnected series and a miniseries featuring. Marvel superheroes. Amazon just won a load of awards for Transparent and even Playstation Network is getting in on the action with a show called Powers. Is this an exciting new frontier in the golden age of television or is TV as we know it fracturing into a million pieces, denying us access to our favorite shows before they even start. It's certainly an interesting time to get square eyes. Now, Luke, are you a fan of original content. I am a fan of original content. [LAUGH] It's a horrible word. But movies and TV shows. That's what we mean. Content. Yeah, yeah I am. I think it's really cool. I really enjoy loads of. [INAUDIBLE] Especially House of Cards. Mm-hm. Which I think has been fantastic. Right. How much Orange is the New Black. But I know that everyone is, it's universally adored. So, you know? I, I haven't seen it. But Bojack Horseman is another Netflix one which I really [CROSSTALK] Oh, yeah, yeah. I watched that one. [CROSSTALK] Couple of that. Was pretty good. Hm. And, and just it's, you know, it, it's cool. After years of these streaming service sorts of, services sort of being a place where really, really old rubbish movies go to die. You know, it feels like now there's a proper reason to get involved, and there are some other advantages too. For example, if you are Netflix and you put out a tv show this way, you get loads more data on who's watching and when they're watching, how much they're watching, which episodes they start watching and [UNKNOWN]. Way more than, traditional tv or movie making. [INAUDIBLE] make it sound so sexy. Yes, I do. So much sexy data. And there's also, like the, potential for more interesting stuff, so like, networks might not have taken a risk on something like House of Cards, Netflix, that's true, they didn't originally. They wanted a pilot episode, but Netflix just said nope. Yeah, give us the whole show. Yeah, Netflix was crazy enough to be like no, it's. Have all the money in the world. [LAUGH] Have all the Kevin Spacey's you need. [LAUGH] Netflix came down with this. [INAUDIBLE] Well how many Kevin Spacey's will it take to get this off the ground? [LAUGH] And they said, only one. And he said, only one? Have him immediately. [LAUGH] So that's what happened and, and things at the Marvel collaboration, things like that are unprecedented. You just can't imagine, you still can't imagine that happening. On traditional TV. Yeah because that's that. Yeah that's four different series of 13 episodes plus a mini series combined that tying them all together. So that's huge. Not all of this is made specifically for streaming purposes. Stuff is good. And also its slightly annoying if you have an Amazon subscription and you want to watch all the stuff on Netflix, but interesting times. Absolutely. [UNKNOWN] Yeah. It's not something great I mean [CROSSTALK] Well yeah there have, it's great to see some Netflix and stuff doing this. But even Microsoft because it launched Microsoft Studios which ,. Which is gonna create all this original content for the XBox one so you think someone as big as Microsoft could really sort of [INAUDIBLE] but then Microsoft [INAUDIBLE] they just canned it last year. So that's kind of a big blow that you think [INAUDIBLE] Yeah. Why can't it be done what, what is the formula needed to happen. That, that's true and also these other new entrants. Netflix. Just kind of paving the way and they're very big on binge watching and, cuz what they do is they they put the new, the new shows on, it's available right at the same time. Yeah. So every episode of the series of House of Cards is there on the same day so you can binge watch the whole thing. And it's, it, that's really kind of like the, the kind of gold standard I guess. And some of the other people there, they haven't really, some of the other entrants into this, this kinda market, they haven't quite figure that out. So PSN, for example is, which has funded its own show for the first time called Powers. It's a CPR show. They are bringing that out in March. But they're only showing one episode a week. Like as if it's on telly. Mm. Mm. I mean, who, who would do that? You know. The only, that doesn't take advantage of. The medium Exactly, exactly And that's the cool thing about, about it being online. Exactly. Is it that they're trying to sort of mimic, broadcast so maybe is it more collaborative you'll watch it, is it, is it, do they put it on just any time of the day or is it, is the idea that they actually do like an actual showing of it [CROSSTALK] Made available so you can watch whenever. [UNKNOWN] so, they could put as, they could put it on at any time and they could binge [UNKNOWN], which would make more sense, you'd think. And the other thing is that, so Amazon does something similar. They, they have something called Pilot Season, where they basically make a bunch of pilots, which is a very old tv kind of model. They make a bunch of kind of first episodes of new shows, and then they put them online, and you get to vote on the ones you like, which is, you know, a great idea in theory. It's kind of democratic and it takes advantage of the. the fact that you are, there is the internet and you can have that feedback and that interaction. Yeah. The problem is, because they're pilots, if you like one, you've then gotta wait for months for it to be made, and, and I like the fact that Netflix goes, well we've got this data that says people like Kevin Spacey and David Fincher. If we put them together, people are gonna watch this show, and it, it give it this kind of like, I don't, sort of a conviction. Like an authorial conviction to sorta say. Okay, here's this show and we know it's good. So here it is as a block. And that has a bit more weight to it than, than kind of, the sort of, like, pop idol kind of method of doing it. Of getting you like one episode of a show and going how'd you like it? I hope you like it. I'm not sure that will work based on Netflix's current algorithms of this. Cause I would go on and it said like, oh, because you watched Planet Earth, maybe you'll like. Repo drag race. All rIght. Well, I. Really? So. I mean like the, the algorithm is correct. You, you will love her. It's impossible to like repo drag race. John. I'm not sure I see that, that connection [CROSSTALK]. [CROSSTALK] Yeah I mean. Yeah, it is instinct but there is a lot of, lot of data behind it. I mean this [UNKNOWN] we've got some reader feedback about this as well. Yes we have. So cip, cipnrkorvo cipnrkorvo is [CROSSTALK] [CROSSTALK] You just [INAUDIBLE] how it's pronounced. This is awesome, it's nice to see movies come from elsewhere than Hollywood. @marioc3 says Amazon seems to be bringing out some good original stuff but I already have Netflix I just can't see myself subscribing to another company taking $8 or so out of my account every week. It's getting crazy with all these. Streaming sites, satellite radio, and now even programs like Adobe. It all adds up. That's true. I do kind of want to watch Transparent, but I don't want to sign up to Amazon, because I'm already watching House of Cards and all the other stuff on there. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] And also, do you, do you? 'Cause I, I actually have an account with both Lah di dah. I'm at home with my feet up on a coaster. [LAUGH] But I do feel weirdly loyal to Netflix because it was the one I got into first. Yeah, so I'm always a little suspicious of what happens up there. Well, that's why I think transparency is such a big deal. I mean, they won a couple golden globes for that. They won best [CROSSTALK] and best actor. [CROSSTALK] Huge, huge deal. guitar- Actually, speaking of that pilot scene that's dropped, The Man in the High Castle. I might have mentioned it last week, but The Man in the High Castle is very, very good. Okay. Hm. so [INAUDIBLE] Guitarkid55 says I might be the only one but I still really enjoy going to the theater to see a movie. I have a nice big TV and surround sound but it still isn't the same. I don't really care how much it costs either. I live in a smaller town and have very rarely had a bad experience at a theater. Yeah, well that's always good to know that [UNKNOWN] is still alive kicking. All right well ,. Let us know what you think about the new, kind of, golden age of television. Whether it is moving online. And for now we're gonna move on and [UNKNOWN] a bit more about TV in this week's quiz. [MUSIC] Yes the quiz is back and the leaderboards stand. Andy has five Yay! Luke and Jason are tied for the number one spot on six. [CROSSTALK] This one could be a could be a leaderboard breaker? Luke sounds like this [MUSIC] Of course. Topical. [LAUGH] absolutely and Andy sounds like this. Andy sounds like this. [NOISE] There we go that's what Andy sounds like. Okay so fingers on the buzzers. Fastest finger first. What I want you to do is I'm going to describe to you some new TV shows that are coming along. Some Sci fi fantasy geek friendly tv shows that are starting in 2015. You don't need to know anything about the show. All you need to know is, is you need to be be able to tell me from this description, is it based on a comic, is ti a remake, is it based on a true story, is it rescued from another network, is it a spin-off? Or, was it that rare beast, is it an original idea? So, what was it based on, basically? Okay. Comic, remake, spin-off, true story, what, what was it based on? Okay. Okay, so here's question number one. A girl solves crime by eating brains. Luke Sounds like a comic book to me. It was a comic, that's I, Zombie Coming to the Sea. I believe that was based on a comic by Micheal Allred among other people. okay. Question 2, these fingers on the buzzers. Oh, yeah. Two teenagers take shelter from nuclear war then emerge ten years later with a child in tow. Andy. What are my options again? What's it based on? Remake, comic, novel, spinoff, original idea, true story? It could be a true story. Novel. It's based on a novel. That's not the right answer, I'm afraid, Luke. [MUSIC]. Yes. [UNKNOWN]. Now I say hello. [LAUGH] Was it something that another network didn't want, and their doing it? Is not the right answer, it's actually an original story, That's Cockroaches on ITV, yeah, so there you go. [UNKNOWN] Cockroaches. Cockroaches. Oh. It's a post apocalyptic British, comedy. And apparently, it's, alright. [LAUGH] Like [UNKNOWN] That's a post apocalyptic British comedy. That, that wasn't a zombie thing. Post apocalyptic is zombies, zombies is in a apocalypse. Oh,yeah, that's right, it's like. Big brother was yeah but I [UNKNOWN] Yeah. [CROSSTALK] Actually set in the year 5,000 [CROSSTALK] When she falls in a puddle that's like a puddle of future time travel goop. She's going through a portal there. One Christmas she has to go and eat two rotting corpses. [LAUGH]. Christopher so w, was it. So Luke's on one, and that's, that's, that's it. That there? Yup. That's all we've managed. Okay. We are slick, aren't we. This is a good show. So now, you, you both got chances because there are two possible answers there, so remember, comment, remake, novel, original idea, original for the network, and the question is, what, what is the show about two cops investigate crimes related to superheroes? What was that based on? [NOISE] Andy? Two cops do what? Investigate crimes related to superheroes. Related to superheroes? Yeah. That is a [INAUDIBLE] Kind of a It is a comic Yay. And there is another option as well together. It's also [LAUGH] And buy another network. Oh very good. Do I get two points? You do get two points. [CROSSTALK]. Mm, Sammy. That's awesome. no, that was Powers, which is potentially going to be on the PSN, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah. So I didn't mention it earlier, which would have been a bit of a clue. You didn't [UNKNOWN] my plaintiff buzzing in, yeah. [LAUGH] That's not how it works, I'm afraid. Fine, fine. That means it's six all, that's exciting. And collaborator question would have been to, on the [INAUDIBLE] subject of online streaming and that kind of thing, to the nearest million, how much has the controversial movie The Interview made online? Any ideas? How much money, how many billion dollars [CROSSTALK] I think it made, I thought it made something like 15 or $20 million which everyone held as a mass success but I don't think it actually is. I think that's way less than [CROSSTALK] I think it was 40. It was exactly 40 million and it was a little bit of help form [CROSSTALK] He definitely did not mine. 40 too, mate. It was $40 million which is a huge- How did he mime 40? Mark, just do it again. I'm not mad. I'm just curious. Actually that was a really good mime for 40. [CROSSTALK] He had the camera on me. He held it up first like, just like this. Showed his age. [LAUGH] yeah, it was so- Made a four and a zero with his hands, I mean- So that would- What else would he have done? Okay, so- I just, I just thought that was el, I just thought that was elegant. So there you are, the answer is. Phil, it was rented or purchased online more than five point eight million times. It made fourteen million dollars, but that is obviously a special case, because of you know, the controversy around it. << Mm-hm. << Kind of thing. So, yeah, let's move on now to the feedback. [MUSIC] A beautifully concise edition of Feedback this week. Silvio Ortega Alvarez says hola, buenas tardes! Hola! Buenas tardes, Silvio! so, that's nice. That was the end of the message. [FOREIGN] por favor. Gracias. That's the only Spanish I know, I don't. Dos cervezas? Philip Thompson says, bourbon or custard cremes? Hm. Hm. I'd go for custard cremes, I think. I'd go for custard cremes also. I think custard cremes are underrated and I think they're let down by a really, really horrible name. Hm. Custa, custard creme. Ew. Yeah. [CROSSTALK] Both are good, but neither are as good as The Party Ring. Oh, that's true. [CROSSTALK] Philip Thompson also says, supermarket brand TV's, I.E. Technicolor and Polaroid. Oh, this is a proper question. Okay. Right. It's a proper question. [LAUGH] Focus up, guys. Are they worth it or a waste of money? Good question. [INAUDIBLE] That's a really good question actually. So, and unfortunately, it doesn't really have a good answer. So, it depends on the TV. So, in, in years past, we reviewed, Technika TVs. Some were okay. Yeah. Some were less so. Okay. So, obviously, it slightly depends on the actual, like the model. Yeah. It's easy to say. Go for a bigger brand like Samsung or LG and and but, but- They say that. [CROSSTALK] [LAUGH] That's really easy, but but like, it, it's not, I don't think it's that much more expensive to go for. I recognize Brandon there, ask him No you wouldn't with your coasters and your Oh exactly with me and my cousin. Shall I watch Netflix or Amazon Prime? Drinking golden tea out of a doilie. Yeah out of a doilie. I don't know what you [CROSSTALK] Just put one over my mouth and have it poured through. A doilie would be a useless filter with its big holes. I can't really see probably one of my nose is pressed up against the glass. [LAUGH] He's back at [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] Anyway yeah so there are some good reasons to go for a, a bigger brand cuz actually you can get a really good TV for not very much money these days. You don't have to. There's certainly a lot of smart TV features that kind of thing. Yes that's the other thing so like. There's it's Samsung or LG would be kind of, if I was buying a TV that's decision I would be making. And I'd be weighing up what the smart TV features are of each. Sure. And I think, I'm not 100% familiar with the smart TV features of Polaroid and Technica, but I'm willing to bet that they are not. As the, the, you don't get as much. If you care about Smart features, which of course, I don't. Yes, but, but, but, I think people do. Do they? I didn't when I, I didn't when I got my Smart TV, but now like I've used the Netflix app. You probably have an Xbox plugged in. Or even an xbox360. It has Netflix. But the TV has it and that's quicker. The conclusion we come to is if you can afford it. You know that's what being a brand is definitely worth it but [CROSSTALK] Yeah and as you were saying earlier a TV is an investment. You'll have it for years and years and years, it's worth, it's worth sort of shopping around. [INAUDIBLE] All right great thanks everybody, and no worries. Please keep the feedback coming everybody out there in radio land by emailing us at our email address which is firstname.lastname@example.org it's on the screen right now. Now if you're watching the video. Excellent, well that's it for this week, thanks very much Andy. Thank you. Thank you Lee. Thanks. Thanks to our producer Mark, who you'll never see, right, we're off to binge watch Ru Paul drag race, see you next week. [MUSIC]