Ep. 192: Verizon may choke youAmerica's largest carrier is starting to "manage" data speeds for its heaviest users, but don't call it throttling. We get to this news and more on the latest Dialed In.
Hello and welcome to dial and -- -- -- podcasts today is Thursday September 22. And I'm Kent German here and -- Cisco -- the -- and just goto court. He has to -- and -- Bonnie -- is on vacation so she will not be joining us this week so no Fuzzy -- from New York in Germany and nobody made it if this will be our last Thursday of the podcasts for switch and again and we are -- that makes it up -- surprising -- just because we're like that. -- and we will actually be now on Mondays at 10 AM. And we won't be on this Monday because. There's a lot about on TVG veteran who that would actually didn't know. Let's talk about the unit are now. I actually. We have on some of their events going on and into steamy on the podcast and -- probably like bored to death so anyway just be like -- town which is not not again. -- and what you think it's a cat well actually -- -- -- have to feed that -- and accidentally -- I'm not doing some simple though it and multiple personalities until it has its. So we will start Monday -- Target Arctic -- October 3 at 10 AM -- time hosted by -- So tune back and then. I might actually be joining us from New York -- -- normalcy but. Leo will be back then so now have an appropriate -- for -- yes yes you actually I'll be easily washed out fortunately so it should be me. It's like now act out a photo can become available to join up and money -- we get Roger Indians native. On the cell would jump right -- users -- on non instant you can move it in and we had our crazy our guests and in the first couple weeks a September where crickets. And -- more. So buckle up kids its -- -- -- and people till December only one cricket as it happens -- know. I. There is room limited groaning and I don't think this and I yeah. I. There's a symbol you know Atlantic's she should have -- and oh yeah I feel like our special battery all of lying. Steve. Hiding her console so I don't want me to remind them in terms like a bad joke. At. Which I was referring of course with cricket wireless. Yeah we think we can humor as we -- we got to not need a headache you've got. Noting that the router -- -- that -- dishing out of that ahead of Oakland it does get ready to. So the first off is sprint CEO is downs and an iPhone rumors so there's an investor conference New York that the Goldman Sachs investor conference in all of the big carrier bigwigs were there. And Roger history yesterday it will there I really likes this headline sprint CEO dances -- -- iPhone rumors. I'm not -- -- amble I thought -- it interferes actually dancing. Yes and then and then someone else on Twitter is saying -- -- -- like a top hat McCain would be better. And then you -- -- Warner Bros. for argued otherwise and I've set -- hello -- -- hello. -- -- -- and the picture you you gotta -- hand extended and yet he's about to do some sort of use and make it a very important point. But this is when Roger and I went to Kansas City in July. I -- yes this is in their big fancy executive boardroom. And He was I'm making -- point but. Yes sprint is been rumored for awhile now that sprint getting iPhone of course they're not saying by one of his. One of -- has his quotes was if we get it if we may have to adjust -- guidance for that so I mean ultimately it. Sane minds but there's a lot of this lot of the stuff the Sansa in other words He also is and in another place He also -- About -- -- -- whether they keep the unlimited data plan and not with the iPhone again speculation this and they have the iPhone they have to drop He says we watch it very closely and -- -- profitable if it becomes unprofitable -- -- an -- anymore. So -- so I'm. And anyway and -- to AT&T team noticed you know like what else is new again but I essential singularly I don't know for you guys think you mean we'll see this spring giving it means we're not an -- Only remember a demo on these rumors of a Verizon getting it would indeed it actually it -- it. I need it eventually they did get an injury and it -- -- Let's take a long time estimate it's -- -- months and months and you know -- years. We -- know -- gonna happen next month and an and because I mean that it intention to get a new frontier -- especially were -- about Apple we're not talking about normal. Manufacturers here -- source write about Apple -- about the carrier's. We're talking about probably just a lot of demands on both sides and a lot of concessions -- -- -- yeah -- -- -- rationing could be out there. You're looking a lot and it is at a different now with the CD ambulances GSM. -- needed to had to do with obvious reason to be debt. Was sort of you know -- commandment Verizon announcement -- -- in an easy transition to the CME technology meetingplace but again. And a lot of this is still speculation and you know and we don't know -- however. They are a lot of readings -- as -- -- ten years and retail stores and things like that He does independently so bouncy. Yet I don't have a more sprint and -- to a it's about how movement. Accident and was an inhibitor a -- story came out this week was that are hoping sizzle said the iPhone would be unveiled October 4 yen which. I am now there's one little problem with that rumor is that iMac and now now it's Thursday -- -- Wednesday. Wednesday. Now two stance on its list items used. It's that actually Oracle. So Oracle world is a big show that Oracle does every area and they totally booked up the Muskogee senator defeated north south west -- a close -- Howard street between. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Apps so you know I usual place -- Apple hosts incidents like Moscone west or the ever -- senator. Our boats now they could host -- -- -- stability at the campus may be but analysts historic penal suggestion. And it also if they -- in San Francisco. Berkeley C books out every hotel -- a national my mother learned when she -- -- -- So I am in and it doesn't mean it's not happening but it does there are a little civil interest entity -- that rumors. The want to say. -- on so we are just -- covered a and you found yesterday which He was rhythms from. -- Yes so actually -- students interesting things that they. Our prepaid network and there in 35 states but it's -- on C Ambien and deals with sprint. That kind of brings their service national and as part of that thrust they have teamed up with best buy and on the future team up with. -- -- -- -- General yes dollar general store never heard of before and the home shopping -- -- But in the meantime there are teaming up with the best -- team and having passed by exclusively introduced two new phones for the -- music service. So that's. Unlimited access T music Tomlinson and bring back -- and things like that. And so one -- -- is busy -- score which is an Android phone. And the other is the GTE chorus which is a feature -- So. Best -- is orchestrating the whole thing of course and are also going to be selling -- vitality which is another Android made music and I came out like two weeks ago and I reviewed now plan. So the score is gonna be 130 dollars at best buy. And the new music plan their plans are slightly different plans and prices are slightly different than in the cricket home territories. And like is that they have an exclusive so that chorus and the score. Aren't even going to be in available in -- cricket retail stores He met by explicitly asked by exclusives so. Plan for the score is going to be 55 dollars a month that's unlimited text and web. But it is not unlimited minutes the minutes top out at -- thousand nation -- the chorus is going to the plan is gonna cost 45 dollars. A month and the phone it's gonna cost a hundred X -- 45 dollars a month and again -- thousand. Nation lies and offer a feature is that just delete it it doesn't like a lot for -- -- a pirate them and knocked on the price land and but I guess they want into and -- the Italians going to be 200 -- I guess their thinking. -- 1013. Land few Hun -- Tax benefits and but I think -- -- that country a lot to swallow. It is no contract. Conscious of 45 dollar -- -- plan yet if you're going to use the minutes is quite a few minutes on that if you're mostly texting I would never use -- media on a minute let's I was -- -- real estate -- -- -- Internet. I can't imagine everything you Casey might not want a -- -- but if you're doing unlimited texting and in the mid did data. And you still get all of that for 45 dollars a month plus music and -- and if you're gonna use your phone primarily. To listen to your -- is -- -- on its. In Africa is correct cricket doesn't yeah it they're prepaid through -- addition -- that. There are best buy -- off and reselling. While April -- seventy dollars in the same thing crown and there. For forty dollars and both of those are available a cricket -- -- sent. This is a really interesting move -- -- it's making because they've kind of been. Sort of content for a lot of times just sort of sit around and there -- Pretty pricey at them and their network and then they released -- -- and that seemed to be the surprise head. Men are like hey let's take this further I mean that those plans are probably independent but it -- they're rolling out its sort of the same time. To you -- -- even challenge MetroPCS. -- Let's engineer in any -- move music so have to I do you like it I think it's a good concept. You know I I apartment were not in cricket territory here and -- Francisco in and so we would be on the sprint and the you know I mean I think it's. It's -- it's definitely get nervous but it and making a vitality has -- the -- opponents sort of the phone's been a problem for me. To make it sort of more compelling to mainstream audiences and I haven't seen the -- yet it will -- winning columns. From Italy cat but I would say that the -- was really dead and having hampered kansas' the second -- -- for it. Doesn't just as easy. Eat meat like a -- and made pushing the US as well exactly. Well you know some carriers they don't do things like this and they have they actually began to restrict -- data use it actually -- too much. And Verizon looks like exactly what's happening at them this year this the -- -- Verizon. Just has a story that Verizon is beginning to choke highest data users yes I don't mean like -- -- -- guys from. Now my. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah that's that is -- can you hear me now and it's coming out is like Kenyan army now -- like okay okay. What's going on with. Has gone on the ground so we know for awhile that they've been threatening few -- data speeds and apparently I'm not allowed to use the word throttle on Verizon's. -- name in her not cute -- on their FAQ paint. They say that throttling. Is basically something that happens. You know over a longer period of time and it doesn't mean it's just -- you will get slower speeds. Here so what they're doing is they're just they're just going to you know. Crushed the windpipe and it'll only need a -- and slowly strangle you -- How dumbest marketing and there are -- -- Okay so that would even dumber is that they call this network opt -- is it I'll get -- I. Basically the most active 5% and they're region. Verizon is and -- an -- and so it only -- fact the most active 5%. Of the three G data customers that are also using the treaty unlimited plan and that works out to about two gigabytes of data -- or more each month. So what they're gonna do is if there's an area of congestion. They're just gonna -- XP. And -- an average -- congestion clears. And then -- -- in -- but they have. The brilliant then I just like a marketing and that's why things it's not throttling its astronomy is a -- now about 5% it was a slight choking. I think it -- -- and then when -- minutes noted it has releases right and it took you back again that's gonna. And deliberate. Oh my -- the wording on here is like I as that it is rather vague and very. They're they're not targeting you they're managing data speeds through network optimization. When you've reached at certain to have -- just a stop here. -- for this is brilliant. High data users will -- the smallest possible impact and only experienced reduced data speeds when necessary for us to optimize data network traffic in that area so they only hear feel like two -- Gas tanks -- -- in my -- little -- About what's happening. -- -- -- -- And -- -- -- sprint actually have summing today that they confirmed that they are tapping mobile hot -- use at five gigabytes per month ambulance exchange subscribers Cerro. This is not this is not -- Normal cellular data networks of your on the phone and you're using an auxiliary to -- limited plans to assist people -- signed up to 2999 -- -- plan. And we are willing and -- -- -- means that they're doing this -- -- some people have speculated that maybe it's the seeking. Died. And that's that's that's that's -- -- -- -- you could make room. But that's the experts Ernst says restaurants humming along the same along the same lines them -- these days. Now I have a story that really can excite ask him. She's gonna love this woman. ACC has a new phones. And it's called the ride Ronnie covered it from New -- -- this week. The -- is all about accessories. It's purple. It has a -- cellphone charm it's a little cube that glows when you get the columns you can hang out of your -- even though it's not marketed toward women missing in action. On. And it -- other testers the common term. Let's see I incision it -- -- -- tangle free hit its. I gather like iron and extra like oh and -- flat to any any matching Bluetooth -- Magic doesn't purple or I'm sorry it's welcome them -- So yes now there's a lot of -- a lot of sort of gnashing teeth gnashing of teeth when this phone first really -- -- are talking on this on the -- In respect Bonnie Newman points out that it might include apps like -- encounter. And things that in only women really of course Sharon and it's the only things they care about of course at least -- -- -- At barefoot and pregnant -- yes yes exactly at me now we don't I didn't look like a comic here and earnings and I talk to -- and -- -- like. As far as the hardware when it. She actually liked. But it's a pretty solid has -- -- WVG I imagine varying processors. -- megapixel camera. Yeah I would senators facing camera passengers about this phone is you know it would target every other Droid phone -- on every other drink from it. Most of the undertones and -- this by Verizon. Are really marketed heavily towards men with commercials and incompetence to join Obama's edge here and cyber eggs and shooting lasers and all these are going to -- that so it's kind of clarity STC is doing here and -- -- Actually did confirm that when He was at the same -- inner meaning. An HT easy HTC executives they did say that that they definitely had women and mine is a market opportunity. So a -- that seems to -- -- and this is essentially -- our version of the list was sent him an elderly right. Sony -- bliss was definitely female vote yes and elected because the same -- it does seem fun as the list yes so. Mean yeah exactly at an atheist and it is any secret that this is connecting a focus even added saying explicitly it does seem like that of autism -- the moment. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- that's -- Ferguson started we are watching the Nvidia and -- watching it the Cuban -- -- those -- Like throw out of your person have their city you can see -- again I -- -- -- ugly wired had for -- founded. Their rubber sedate and their tangle free again. -- -- little bit nuts that. I mean Bonnie cinder block office here you know I don't you know accused of letting up let me know that I have an incoming call I think they'll bite the -- okay and. -- need to do to women marked on the street with their purse hanging in front of their face seed Andy. Don't you feel like my entire kind of looking down at the time and it's. There may be happy that you hat and bag on your utility -- and looking at it. Haven't people onyx authorized but I think of those accessory -- and for customization and your if you wanna change. In express your personnel -- in case. Yeah -- and that -- sticker like the dials and stuff like or -- doesn't mean that store and get your keep speed thing or your cellphone charms yet but I don't want the manufacturer to decide for me. What I want or to define. You know a certain category of people -- and Andy and I think that you can also. You can and try to appeal to a group with certain feature you wanna keep it open to other people who aren't in that exact Democrat -- and I think this is didn't exactly right Jessica and -- -- -- even though those joint phones are marketed to his men and you signaled that. The robots and -- whenever I TV camera -- a TV commission is inherent in the product itself right or no marketed towards somebody make it appealing to back group I let other people come to the -- is like. Women's -- by drive by onyx is okay you know -- in though it's so innovative that anything including just -- like little that. Because like I want guys in my car thing. Where the dudes -- there any. I and I do agree that having this little cute thing is is -- is -- it's it's -- I just think it takes your place that doesn't mean to go yes. Telephone on its own merits. -- So that's the -- and so we we have it was the right not the reason you should at that time was. It just. Stunning sound and get that I didn't see -- is down for him to outline yeah it. Yeah -- actually Bonnie did not take a device -- -- doesn't have a review but she did get a hands on that but she did steal the charm. Now I don't think it's not in at -- she -- that make it. And. So that's a Brian Sewell check it out with -- -- since we can. I AT&T last week and thank you AT&T turned on their first five LTE markets finally -- China. And now after almost a year after announcing there for -- He was coming and then several months after 19 months after announcing four -- phones at CES. Which are really XP -- ISO its first prime markets of -- it is they are Houston San Antonio and Dallas. -- -- Atlanta and got him. And Jessica wrote -- quick Q and hang on exactly what He needs now. -- hot app basically said it might be some confusion about HSP plus verses the four GL TE Ian. They turned it on on Sunday but what does that actually mean so. Basically if you have a Ford G found it is HSP plus that does not -- eat because there are now LT -- for AT&T right now. There are couple devices C opinions or laptop cards and -- mobile hotspots and Nancy can't use them on forgy LTE if you're in that area. -- buy it your current phone and fits like the -- for dear and a LG -- -- it. That is actually on interests you plus totally different technologies so. Even if you are in Chicago Atlanta when of those areas and I'll tease which -- -- That's authority you are not going to be an LTD you're still gonna be on Internet -- -- so you have to have the phone. Be enabled for -- TE in order for you to get LTE. So while I was doing a little research I revisited that theoretical -- -- especially because. -- and magazine have covered in very detailed way -- see now how HSP plus -- the false prophet foraging and and speed really kind of comes down to it and in addition to other technology. So at HSQ plus that's a different architecture asserted that -- retain our three G and damn right its -- keep us again but this being a really interesting LTE can theoretically -- a hundred. Megabytes per second down. And it has -- you plus its maximum -- deliver 84. Megabytes per second but in practice. AT&T said that it -- their highest numbers are gonna be much less it's like between the five independent think -- per second range four LT. Miss never noticed this -- is -- different and theoretical speeds and actually yeah again and and it's -- pretty fast in this as phones get out of the ten megabytes seconds and it it did death. That's -- that they think the Verizon and Verizon counties as around ten and fifteen Islam also mean yeah it's to -- I can think of brainpower in the same way you know how -- how -- space you have in your brain blood product that's -- -- theoretically able to being damaged brain to -- theoretically use and how much it actually is an -- kind of like LT it's like -- maybe 10% to be a genius -- should. If you are questions about. Fourteen and view. That happened spectrum it's -- information and -- It's in place Verizon has a new -- called dosing enlighten it is out very will be notes -- of Turkmen sector so thing. Com in its eighty dollars. And it was a confusing at first as I was reading the press release -- like LG ally and blue illumination so that -- so that was looming. Now it's a mind -- says Eric Angelo and an entry level Android phone it is. CD box it has. To -- it has 3.2 inch the touch screen and as of three point to make -- camera 800 megahertz processor it's three G capable. It's got Wi-Fi and -- light up keyboard and yes it's my critique it comes with two to dig my -- card Adobe Flash terms have. You know pretty entry level device but a decent price actually quite a decent price for its Austrian utility -- liked -- and. And have steadily up the -- -- from the whole optimists Syria yeah I'll definitely a bit entry level that it's not. The app engine and it's a -- -- live and -- another step by hand apps. So well will Leo will get that and for review just since we can. Eighteen teens said -- -- actually insane but. Team although I did Deseret -- news -- -- their hands on things. Came across a document that was an employee FAQ that there be distributed to T-Mobile and AT AT&T employees. That said that form -- former T-Mobile customers of course this is the merger goes through. Will be able to keep their plans quote as long as they want to even when -- term ends and the service continues on a month to month basis. So this is it -- seen because -- we know that in past. In past mergers -- -- and we know that even if this merger goes through T-Mobile customers will be able to keep their contract to the end of their life through the end of its life at that point they will still be able to -- most time -- -- Month month basis. Now the problem is than previous mergers. -- different carriers have made it very difficult once you get on that month to month and is here you go into 23 years they start doing things like saint. Oh and I mean this happened to me it happened to friend of mine when actually when AT&T He. When Cingular -- AT&T wireless that's changed the original AT&T wireless base in Minnesota -- well your phones -- are gonna work on these. Frequencies and so we're gonna have you updated menacing new this new phone and -- degrade and I had this Sony Ericsson and as the very first and Ericsson have Bluetooth is a T 68 I think and -- found on this great -- And -- and this is before the Smartphone era and based try to send me some. But it really basic Nokia handset careless and it has found -- and accommodating to write it -- on it and we're not going. But they can make it very difficult for -- so there's speculation are exactly what this means -- as long as they want to quote quote unquote. Does imply certain permanence but am I think that this this is something that. You well that once you once you buy -- -- it will make you upgrade to new contracts and eventually they will do everything they can't get -- -- T-Mobile contract this merger goes through. Yeah and if there's always the case in recent opinion content you from the -- Secure -- a new contract everything -- if you what you. So I don't trust AT&T AT&T and birth of the through -- -- an hour I. And then I had to -- bank from I have a problem there is -- -- -- users are reporting high pitched whine. -- surface. Oh my god I yeah I think and -- aren't on. The -- it joint. Integrated. -- -- Is an antibiotic -- no mightily -- anything it's in its its its other resonated found everything but there have been some people to party. When you plug in a pair of headphones into the headset Jack and -- started -- -- planet and dial -- to music you did high pitched whine. -- going on right now. It's doing it. In unison. High pitch a wine during argue playback and when the idea players closed out the sun goes away -- clicks off. And tie up with and without reading it and -- -- -- house I didn't hear any beings I don't know -- I -- does have biologists say a few years. I think that I remembered that some of his -- yeah -- -- And it. It's. One of our colleagues and Seth Rosenblatt He has antibiotic as -- heating heating -- -- problems with that so. Could some people have a lot of however the -- on -- -- -- of rising complains -- people hearing this a high pitched whining like you playback and I don't know if it's a hardware issue -- -- of firmware issue orders software whatever. I'm hopeful is just a simple self adapted it into as you pointed out and -- -- be solved. But nobody -- it sues that it -- -- Ricans. On Verizon so. And and well. Hopefully we independent to -- that's this but you gotta they had some really big from a that device considering just. -- -- how -- people waited for an insurance repugnant yeah I now exactly. And -- -- and as this T-Mobile has announced a BlackBerry Curve 9360. Yet since when you thought there were -- does. When you thought that not like -- -- isn't isn't enough and nine and it showed that's used in Arabic bank have. And this is the one of -- and at the recent. You parents at rim announced it uses actually put global announce an entry level Blackberry -- seven handset. It does have less of -- is said and a graphics you can -- it as opposed its -- month my video. -- the usual Blackberry kind of -- factor. Five megapixel camera with flash in the usual Wi-Fi and so I am. Just horrible -- the bill for eighty dollars -- around you to use in -- agreement -- -- dollar mail in rebate. It be available starting September attorney for the black version two of -- if you -- you may love it. It's just another Blackberry you wouldn't have enough now so we actually have a dialed in first this week we actually have no we've used. So wait we still have quick hits -- -- -- -- put in and that I'm we're gonna go ahead and take a break now because we have our quick hits. And then that I'm and then we'll come back and community is so we'll take a break now -- -- back in a few minutes. -- -- back -- back to some quick hits we got see this week that Samsung galaxy S to offer AT&T'S this is the second of those -- we've already looked at the epic touch fourteen. But this -- actually now has a launch date and pricing. It will be launching on October seconds so that is Sunday. Yes or 1989 are sorry Huntington and 91999. With a U2 year contract. So this is just review it has -- one point two gigahertz dual core processor sixteen gigs of memory. Eight page megapixel camera with HD video capture. And -- and rate to two dot three -- for gingerbread. I'm Bonnie was really funny really liked the sprint version so up to see how this -- affairs but it's coming out of a little different yeah that's coming out -- little over week so for 200 which actually isn't such. There's about a standard priced and and price. Nobody expects the then we -- a little more AT&T -- -- is we always do. It's been a lot of public officials coming out on either side we have a lot of state governor's pride in its 2720. Now that I suppose that's sent letters to the FC supporting it. We have some house members since senate members coming out on either side we have some attorney general saying they'll be out of -- -- and then. And now we've last week we learned that the change attorneys attorneys general asked to do that right. A California Illinois Massachusetts New York Ohio Pennsylvania and Washington. Actually have joined with the department of justice's lawsuit to block the deal. So about eleven other attorneys general have supported it and open links in the story that will post its its final and information but that we have some. Really it's dividing it's really time people we have some a lot of people in favor of it lot of people. So that's so and actually plastic thing -- we did -- Department of Justice trial for the agency merger has not has been scheduled for February -- I really don't on the fast track on this -- And than just -- yesterday that sprint is gonna tell often quirky. Houston. Up Citibank and -- they did back according T sprint T -- has. Screen Trotter an image actually looks like an image of that and of life list for. September are mostly October. And so the Kyocera echo is on that list as is the HT CE move forward -- which was the first forgy -- -- yes. -- It's like June actually thousands and when. -- -- -- Yet so sit in of those devices. Just costs -- covered a little bit of rumors about windows momentum. Yes so. Basically and it was. Microsoft Windows Phone blog. And there was that a general manager basically -- a bypass that was saying. -- branding speculation now it's going to roll out as early as next week -- in the next week or two. We should -- mango rolling out to existing devices across all of the carriers. So that's not something really won't happen overnight him but they're going to Begin the rollout. -- whimsical but -- news for Windows Phone 7 people Benton. And Sam finally Samsung. This happens a lot Samsung sometimes post things and then they take -- back out again by this might be phone -- the illusion. Right. Isn't that He thought the enlightened but He has held in -- in the Samsung isn't a great Sarah -- training staff. Caught a slip up last week that basically an old times Flickr images said that this was a phone for hours Sam it was a bridges and -- Samsung phone for Verizon there it is. And that would be in the illusion. And so. It's expected to arrive on September 20 ninth running entry 2.3. Gingerbread. Things like -- While a camera that you know it's not exactly certain of its gonna be three megapixel or five megapixel. So there aren't a lot of details about it. And unfortunately the original Flickr image who has pulled down so we can't. Take a look at it ourselves we just have to go off of this other image sensor does Toronto. -- post things on their page and take them out so you. Now the last thing as we have a price fight between the -- bionic and the photon foraging just. The program will mount saint Elizabeth -- back pain and frank -- so be sure to check that out we won't we won't tell you who want you want to -- But that's -- my eyesight due to me to difference now. June 20 the point if it. Maintenance and then we have a couple of upcoming things reviews -- in and we have the correlate and polls -- -- this -- -- an entry level Android phone for AT&T uses DH is GRC. Authority it. This duplicates. And then we have a Sony Ericsson exterior park which is unlocked and it was announced back at C asked. And so far it looks pretty cool -- it is beautiful hardware this phone. It's really solid and Sony Ericsson is as a good job with so -- -- attendees actually to have relief stood up yet. -- -- Critical so well that's not up for US carriers -- said that you can buy -- months. And then we have on voicemail to play today come from from -- -- don't ever know his name but he's called a few times. -- -- Here everybody appear in Canada we're gonna be getting LG larger sister aren't -- only just under -- disturbing news is there. One point five gigabyte -- as -- cost forty odd dollars. Which is basically doubled -- problems. All -- or G church. So actually they're charging -- search -- minuscule amount of data. -- -- plans are going to be so. But what it looked -- if you want LE a minimalist -- -- -- let facts. Pretty well under just under the walls and that acceptable well. A lot of -- partners and its population and economic would double or cell bill just to get. A third better speed and maybe they're better -- on -- and data so despite what you now. Not as -- with their sermons. Like. Well that's not cool. App. It's really good and I want me finding of -- is not a lot I mean M you know you -- kindred through to a pretty quickly especially be upgraded user. So interpret Canada thanks for thanks -- -- calling it sounds pretty expensive and pretty ages ago and and so conveniently -- -- -- -- government. But I think that's only -- weakening convenience. So as I said we will not beyond next week we will come back on Monday October 3 at noon there -- new -- time -- Which is it. And keep up people. That's an am Pacific and whoa -- -- what this shows proceeding. As a percent of the day the first show B -- then and then after Dolby Labs casts and a new York and then but also Monday we're gonna do a buzz out loud. In place of dialed in OK so this Monday it will have a -- Paulson. -- not just us not having everyone's happy -- it -- so definitely check in -- unity. 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