Buzz Out Loud
Ep. 1556: Google+ and Facebook: headed for a showdownWe're looking ahead to Facebook's F8 conference, where we're expecting all new buttons, tons of data porn, and ever more personalized advertising. Google is also looking ahead to Facebook's F8 conference, by opening Google+ to everyone and making hangouts...
Today is Tuesday September 20 2011 my name -- Steven -- of. I am brands I am Hollywood Bob and a buzz out loud is cnet's podcast of indeterminate length that's episode 15150. -- -- The countdown continue coal. Below two via. Veoh -- eighty watt and that's. I do not pay -- real defenders had a for the show you just can't think again we do it on the beach in Columbia will be lots. Number Elektra and Pamela Anderson and their prime running next to -- have to do lots of pre production of girl's running Salim bikinis. That's a terrible thing but at the Portland and I've been yeah what a horrible -- get right I'm song welcome to the show guys everyone here in the house and we are sober. A -- sellout but we wanted to take things off a lot of things happening in the social space we know that FaceBook is having their -- conference on Thursday but before that Canada. Preemptive strike at -- like to see companies is a lot -- has done -- in the past. Google rolled out to celebrate. 91 days of the Google plus social network some new features all the way up you had pretty much rounding out 200 features the biggest one. Is Google's beta will now be open up to everyone yet so there's no invitation required anymore. That opening the floodgates. They feel it's good enough another hot feature is search in Google plus it's been requested that you kids instead of just looking for people that box -- the -- ish. Starting sometime today. That'll be implement is also search through all that and a lot of new hang out features -- out their video conferencing feature which. For the most part that's a most of my friends and end up using Google plus for that is hey nick -- the sleeper killer feature. That's exactly translate its killer feature that doesn't think the sleeper hit but -- it have been like that when -- first -- that hang up. -- but it is that it's group messaging which -- and everyone is doing and it's super useful. And so they're making it just a little bit more powerful basic. Yeah one of the things are doing is -- will now be available on your phone. So Android users 2.3 and higher user hang out feature and be involved at the conversation and also you can now you know -- and a drill down. Treat -- that are based on -- of -- specific topics. There's also which could be very scary. Google hangouts and on air feature. This I think we -- interest in brilliant actually because it's taking on kind of that -- -- -- -- you can now do a live broadcast via Google plus -- does one stop toppings and not only can you need these habitats. But you can go have your own Charlie seems Shelton where you have a little breakdown live -- -- there's no law some -- -- throwing out show ideas this could be. Cnet's behind the stream just hang out that's -- hang on just. Leave that web camera and it totally behind it and Yahoo! want to CSI at the keyboard -- Or how much work actually don't do so. When you -- -- sleep in under my desk on the floor at around 2 o'clock from a midday nap but elected -- and get a copy and there's also cool things there's going to be screen sharing and -- to share some your pictures and things like that a sketch pad. I could be interest -- a little doodle pad integration with Google docs and the like we said -- -- -- -- specifically for -- so. A lot of cool features and a lot geared towards hang out specifically and it really it is it's -- analyst commentary and is that it's great for live podcast and -- -- that -- like anybody it's -- -- -- democratizing live broadcasting -- in any crazy created which are -- -- show from -- -- Are we just have another -- from one of us profiles are -- via via email and asked a lot actually that could you could reduce the show I think we just -- our laptop for one episode just for fun and -- and then your regular show and then. Hanging out from there -- Okay media. Net and it from the -- we need some welding -- right there what I know what we'll have our special guest tomorrow. Mr. is -- tomorrow yeah mister and -- you can hold the laptop the whole time only concerns about this -- if there's there's a purpose. Yeah I can't thank you -- -- buying its letter and has scheduled from Jeannie Adam Curry will be on the show tomorrow -- -- prepare yourselves. Be a different kind of showed his -- -- all that the love. I've never experienced you know did the -- It's now at the great takes this -- -- gets. Anyway but now add to reiterate Google -- now open to -- if you wanna go in and out. Google.com slash plus -- -- Or eyes closed out -- -- -- or words of somewhere in there but now I eat in the part of said. Of things and to -- that can thank. And up the -- down. And my opinion we are brew like a storm is brewing between Google plus and -- but because as you mention of the top of the show. This news these changes to Google plus come two days before F eight Facebook's developer conference and the big rumors are. -- swirling around right now we're kind of if these after turn out to be true -- I'm getting inside -- about what they're gonna launch including. Read it or -- I read that list and watched and want buttons. -- these will be potentially the rumors are new FaceBook -- that'll introduce some regularity to the lights concept and the scary thing about -- is okay. I think it's cool read listen watch all right fine or even wants a -- more. The new social -- -- -- I want people to any what I want to read our read like thirty -- or OpenId -- I'm reading that. I listen to that you should read this I read that I read that read that read listen to watch all past -- that's not but then. According to the article the -- -- the motto for the -- convert to be read watch listen and although daily. It already is -- -- -- that'll integrate be integrated into their site and they're really trying to transition. Face but not always a social problem but up. Really media delivery platform because now with these buns the idea -- these articles and what's there the -- that are popping up all over the place. Is that they want it to be a place to deliver content where you don't have to leave the site you can. Now with the partnerships with -- a spot a fire -- audio you can play this on directly in FaceBook and stay there you don't believe there. On and at the same time with having all this granular 32 their buns and allow. Advertisers. And the due date up porn in the Danish turning -- to the scary part about it. To be able to collect and really be even geared and targeted more towards you yeah and even -- higher level. Which is scary but also cool -- -- aggregates which -- -- the consumer you could potentially at a time to benefit from this in terms of that targeted. Delivery gonna get I have to admit the targeted delivery does start to work at some point you know He -- -- sometimes -- like just now. I get look at the little ads on the right side of the music that I like in a really -- pair issues and in arm's -- when it always has liked hot singles in your area. I know I'm down with if they know. So if vetoes that definitely you would get a more personalized experience which which ultimately every I know it sounds creepy but every user survey every time people are surveyed about whether they want more personalized advertising they do. Because nobody wants ST of ads that make no sense them. And it is more it's useful in finding cool but I gotta say for our retailer for an advertiser in that that data like that -- absolutely. In valuable data point that they're gonna get -- -- FaceBook and figure out way and am I'm certain that they're working on this thing when they start its aggregate this data slice it and sell it. That I mean FaceBook is going to be printing money. With this stuff than eight in case you thought that they were on the relative world domination. Before. One -- it really like once they start aggregating likes and dislikes to this level of specificity and then selling that advertisers. On the stop global Google is right to be like super aggressive with what -- -- the ones and -- has. Exactly bring that instincts saying there are also reports that they'll roll out every major redesign of user profiles it went in with all of this that. That will of course include -- larger -- to social commerce but also I -- be more sticky. Get users to stay on their profiles longer other people's profiles longer -- for example displaying all that media content. I mean you know can you can magically easily get the Brian -- profile -- got all the content you're listening to you've got the -- -- -- ready got you know when you're clicking on links in your in. And that people are let in -- -- that subscribe feature right now it's become. The people layer and stated instead of just may be seen 140 character stream of what they're doing you can actually really. See what they like click on it stay on their -- almost. Let's be honest sometimes we follow people and really wanna see what they like and what they're doing and will read those things and listen to those things and watch those things absolutely. So glad that opened Sony having that's -- -- feature with this whole. Content delivery just on the site living there -- pretty freaky I mean answer yeah it's a great it's a great idea for them. Yeah I mean there is no more trusted source and your friends you know like heaven saying that that the holy -- things for years that the holy Grail of the web was to try to build of what living. Breathing recommendation engine. Because you'll buy -- different by -- listen to what they listen to you and -- -- to be able to actually. Program is engineer this -- -- may have if they roll out the right -- and at school and doesn't get them to Jesus out of us. They may have cracked and that. And it sounds like it's gonna be pretty -- Pre chance -- we will only notices much other than the fact that -- we have few options that these buttons and they're gonna be feeding our news. Feeds with -- the stuff that's relevant to us -- Other than just the people we interact with over the past month. -- Apparently written about a thing that they've been doing BT just found out about -- About the fact that they -- -- again where now just in case you missed this and other people's that it. They're doing that thing again and where they only show you in your news feed you might think -- would CEO of -- everyone they are friends with which would make sense. But instead they only show you updates from people that you recently interactive. The out of it all complicated way to go and change it. I mean I guess if you had 6000 friends. But then you're not using FaceBook right -- -- and I think it's just doesn't make and I don't like that I -- that any -- changed and it's super useful but it does help it does. Help surface the people that you're like -- and. But then He hides I hide forever a judicious use of the high -- -- am a big fan of hiding people yeah I've on the hiding -- -- -- -- at that attendants -- other people do occasionally nearly I've been hiding good friends because there you -- really need to be in and I had a much political friends and you -- like the -- is that -- -- you know playing. Can't -- up on it though there's unwritten rules about -- would likely have a political. Ads don't put too many pictures and the baby you'd think it may be watch. I mean I care about -- watch -- I don't care about may be lots of antennas are real they're -- they're not. I've seen a baby -- real. The cast of I think that Bridget well these during a space to carry -- -- -- new New York person she had to -- a column for the Miami Herald the public use and out and social networking and I'm hoping that -- -- -- wanted to do an unwritten rules -- top five unwritten rule yeah like that he's great. There is an interesting chart -- on business insider today chart of the day. Facebook's collection of photos in context. The -- -- look at this info graphic but it point it shows basically how many photos FaceBook is hosting in comparison to Flickr. -- -- -- and The Library of Congress. Don't understand this graphic has it it's basically a leg and I mean things -- but -- -- -- -- product and then in The Library of Congress that the teeny tiny tiny little dot. Instead Graham is a slightly bigger square FaceBook. A monstrous elephant -- and so FaceBook -- currently up for around 140 billion photos and -- seventy billion this year. So you look at that huge fat square there's a reason why they're so large but then when you even look at this at a larger context. FaceBook is hosting a 4% of all photos and -- weekend. It's an Aston -- ever -- ever. Estimated there's been 3.5 trillion photos taken through history FaceBook has hosted 4% of those -- That's. And you believe and that's amazing is that -- That's an amazing and this -- rapidly when you burst into the picture all you see is the big pink square -- -- camping out even where the other data is. You to -- weighed down in the bottom left corner dared to -- -- like to see I'd like to see this that on how many of those pictures are like the one holding up high in the baton significantly. -- have a personal profile picture old school MySpace -- Serious. And that's all it's it's remarkable -- but people. Is that the Internet and also you can download -- pictures -- -- and sometimes or some other -- when He gets an illness it is not that over them. Put them. All right other cool things -- sprint -- It's an -- you can download whatever pictures of you again at the unwritten rule is usually not elect him by the people that are alt tag in Nevada you know -- -- girlfriend and only. We have computer love on Friday I wanna know listeners who have actually ever. And beyond as -- actually -- someone through FaceBook. You know and and success stories. The stories are -- no responses to that's by the say this -- okay back to space but. Wall Street Journal. Is going social with there new -- it's called it. WSJ social and when it's gonna do is with in the FaceBook is gonna filter content through your so called social graph that gives you news. That's the lives entirely within Facebook's walls. So these could be stories from again -- that recommendation. Friends you have -- service the top it's still. Which is lovely going to be the certain stories that are pay -- will still be able to -- doesn't help anyone. I can't wait to get recommended story that I can't read it. I thought I you know my favorite thing is when they get like -- you're gonna love this story. Mile -- as a general managers like it's about making Wall Street Journal content available where people are. Except for the -- -- which is most of the stories that you care about out. You are gonna love this -- have a hundred dollars. Anyways. The most followed users can compare their rankings on a leaderboard. And earn prizes because that's fine but it's really just trying to take your social graph and it we've seen a lot of this the whole flip board model the whole social magazine. Coming in a play when -- gone Google's work. Google there's rumors -- to see that there working on their own one -- propeller but it's a Wall Street Journal kind of doing something like that specific to their content within FaceBook. It's smart it's actually a smart thing to do because it's you know -- I definitely believe that He did -- the religion write a monster of new media is. Is such a big barrier to them. Being everywhere and it's like. -- -- I we are going to take a quick break when we come back how AT&T continues to tried to convince you -- -- -- -- merger. The good thing making a believer HP's starts slashing. And burning. And the latest pleased to see how good you really are at Angry Birds with. But it's great that Jack but what -- looked -- very under her -- apparently are so. Please let me try again. Garlic and Q and are watching about -- out. -- -- -- -- Say they -- trying amount of ecstatic that aren't. -- -- -- -- -- -- At. The Jack W I gotta tell it is in the chatroom sometimes guys are on time -- -- my parents. I guess they could have the same things I a dynamic. You know -- -- -- glass houses -- -- coming later. Let guys make -- -- take -- -- Sharon also if you watch the video podcasts live -- you watch it later you need to pay attention. Because -- an ad break like Stephen has as a local thing -- the red ball. Flies away in different ways all -- apps. And I didn't know that until -- like we -- And and would you would you say was it sends you could double their culture Jack trees -- -- got a bunch of new trajectory is less than this house. -- -- It's back to -- Molly Wood busy on Twitter I'm here I know I heard it keyboards -- -- I can see to your laptop. -- -- -- -- -- -- That. It's a man's Libya oh now you're -- -- you lights -- Prime. Us and they seem to me is apparently planning to. AT&T is -- -- seek. Their -- An asset sales to save their bid for T-Mobile so what they're doing is they're -- smaller rivals including MetroPCS. And leap wireless. And they're offering to sell some other spectrum -- subscribers. As an attempt to save their 39 billion dollar -- over T-Mobile now those are some of the conditions. That would be part of the merger they had mentioned but. In order to kind of even more convincing it appears that they're doing this to reduce the size -- -- company before the merger to -- show in good faith that -- We're doing this. And it and so it should be -- capability of those smaller operators to compete by getting them RBIs urgent need to be really pro active until a lot is not that now. Instead of being forced to do it later. It does not seem to have -- as it jumped into -- lawsuit -- they have sued filed a complaint yesterday in federal court to block the act with the acquisition of T-Mobile. And there's still again I mean the Department of Justice opposed it but there's still a good chance that this is gonna go through and some -- perform. You know so. Whatever all the stuff that's going back and forth behind the scenes. AT&T is even they even said that they reached out to DISH Network and even sprint next Nextel to gage their interest in buying some of their spectrum -- I mean I guess the theory is like let's say. That this works is let's say it's a world without committing evil attack and AT&T is not that Apple let's say just from a purely -- business and competitive. Perspective that they sell off a lot of spectrum to use smaller regional carriers the smaller regional carriers are able to offer very competitive pricing and really good service and grow a little bit and grow a little bit maybe some of start rumors and they become. That bigger players bigger regional players even national players an AT&T. Becomes -- eight as it moves into the merger with T-Mobile is in fact substantially small. -- and -- T-Mobile is not a huge network so they they merge and there are more similar in size to Verizon don't become like this monolith. That blanket the entire country. In theory you would have increased some competition and they need He wouldn't be so scary when they acquired T-Mobile and we would all be -- Also. They would have to sell a lot of that spectrum and reduce their customer base in order that even for that team and look appealing and and on the flip side and -- news and do that to do the -- and do those smaller carriers. What what would be in their interest of this -- -- to be like. -- you know it we're gonna make sure this merger goes through -- they could grow a little bit but I don't not enough to offset what AT&T is doing. You know and I mean pigs could also flatly none of that can actually that is definitely nineteen -- argument. Minister also be humans. Invented entertainment's. World they are. That's thirty truth about trying to get -- out. -- What a -- point noted and going to visit these Jessica -- confirm that this weekend and a poke the panda -- byters. They only hire writers to go -- with. They wanna -- strong -- -- The layoffs have begun at HP's palm devices. HP is apparently cutting 500. Jobs at the webos division. They announced plans as we know. To close the webos hardware business I am sure there was some hope that they would be able to find other jobs for these people would in fact know they're going to laugh at as many as five and 25. Employees starting this week and then we also know that they're still which is kind of -- the webos development or. The existence of it or whatever pieces are left. Somewhere in -- day I forgot the division that they're gonna push it over towards but they're still keeping unit you know around in hopes that maybe it'll see the light of day. Again this is a sad tale gonna say cutting -- and -- and a little industry dollar market that brutal that the. -- -- -- -- Also left Hewlett-Packard and sometimes selling that well Linkedin profiles -- hurt to have played if you put enough stuff on. Hewlett-Packard. -- president Scott McClellan. Reveal more than -- jobs says when He actually mentioned on his Linkedin profile. HP's new web storage initiative. Old. Latin that He inadvertently tipped off competitors this year earlier this year. With undisclosed details of Hewlett-Packard's cloud computing services they were later removed but not before rivals got to look at the plants. -- way when you move don't do that. It's it's pretty it's him. And all kind of funny it's legal shunned printing make it social social networking -- dangerous people. -- it shouldn't be on the Internet don't put on the Internet -- the number one rule. Really if we don't want it on the Internet don't put -- Unix -- can't tell anymore -- public with prime now people are gonna find it in you know. He's gotta remember that one thing I added it doesn't say specifically or I'm not sure exactly. What part of his site in -- like new initiatives for my company I hope not. But I think that's what does. What I really -- yeah that'll play by play with the gonna do bullet she's gonna copy. But I think we're industries. Upcoming project the idea exactly call that the X. -- -- the new pew study. And -- without the most interesting research into the pew research center for Internet and American life. And I'm telling you every single report that the issue is fascinating animal is like here. Yes. 83% of Americans own cell phones 73%. Of them send and receive text messages and almost a third of them. Said that they prefer texting to talk. Or even yeah yeah when they said they preferred tech -- 53%. They prefer a voice call. And 14% say it depends on the situation via. This could be moved over the -- -- -- -- The texting to talk as well -- have hands -- it you're gonna have on the -- -- on the fourteen addicted to -- depend on that but honestly we don't make them. -- -- I do but in general public in general if it's just like in the middle of the day and it's a little -- your whatever and there's -- few people that -- -- call you for that might. When you -- and it's just text like c'mon. Well you know I'm typically a fan of voice calls and -- -- with a significant other someone -- might have met recently it sometimes you just have to have that more personal -- It's great phone calls we love that now also Texans and eighteen it's when He very Eldridge if you -- and He continues your idea. Now that text there's an eighteen -- -- -- for -- -- are likely to have the most. Bath bombs that Britain that He inserts the -- if it's on the -- it's just saying that the average -- until. Sends or receives an average of 109. In a half texts -- -- Only about a 109. I believe it -- -- I believe that how did they goes don't. -- but this on a silly that they're writing long messages to answer -- younger its digs and when I was. On -- but you know when you're gonna -- array like. Long -- as -- disliked the I word tax that's a lot of flirting was a lot shorter yen -- -- it's remarkable that 3200. Per month. No wonder -- have via an unlimited plan a quarter of those and that young demographic eighteen it's when He forfeited to the hard -- 100 plus tax per day. The median group fifty Texans -- Even fifty texts in native data as really remarkable a maybe do you like -- be like fifteen and maybe. -- -- and then a phone -- to the life. A little. Addicts but. Isn't it romantic like a political text we -- -- mean. Am. IRA that lets keep this show -- in a real and it's time for adequate if you. This thread here is gonna be some must. CTV. Eric Schmidt will be on Capitol Hill tomorrow. Before the Senate Judiciary Committee talking about Google's. Power in the marketplace and basically an anti -- hearing and to talk about whether Google engages in anticompetitive behavior and now I think that. This this is like one of those issues that people -- don't even really realize how big it is. And then also it's is going to be great viewing because Eric Schmidt He crazy He is even as He does stuff. The hearings titled the power of Google serving consumers. Or threatening competition. Also the -- other witnesses on panels like next tags Jeff Katz Yelp co-founder Jeremy -- then they've been opposed to. Google's growth in some of their business areas we'll see how it'll be bare -- the air re interest immediately -- Also -- enough Starbucks. May be getting year flying friends the Angry Birds may come into a Starbucks retail expansion -- about you but I think. Allegedly Angry Birds is kind of Pasadena is a kind of -- that is on the down that you know I think it because I. As for us -- to push out -- mainstream marketing ray we've seen the stuffed animals we've heard about a movie. I don't know this project is this is like when you've. They've already jump shots and is gonna say I agree -- Glad this is they jump the whale I don't know we actually -- the movie a little tired and -- so anyways what they're planning on doing what they proposed. Is the games and downloads of 350 million times their discussions with Starbucks about in store promotions specifically -- an electron -- leader board. This is that shows -- top scoring angry -- players. That is -- -- how does that fit I don't care how much money you throw around people how to study to fit into a Starbucks like. -- -- I haven't a similar -- bird in the corner would -- -- -- it doesn't make sense are they gonna be like -- colored birds. I don't know that is giving users and -- in Vietnam like Starbucks leader boards. And I've gotta say more than anything. This of these Rovio guys although they've done very well mark in their game and on him that they really to show that they're not just the one trick pony. And neither does their game because. There's going to be a point where the eyes shall be a little she got this funny though there were sitting and I can manage and measure its DeLeon Gembara Yogi Bear like no longer -- -- -- credit. -- -- -- -- Yoga barrels like bad and -- -- -- Also another promotion that was I I didn't know about this Rovio did run in any Angry Birds leaderboard promotion -- Barnes and Noble's use the cases here. And if you checked in with like your nook. -- -- might you know the ideals eagle schooler is -- that tells you either. In that climate tells you how to. -- levels. What I mean and -- hit the line got to -- -- couldn't get past many years -- act -- and again. He's not a -- tapped out -- those not a -- hit but who cares there's not even I don't care. FaceBook has rolled out in what -- Forced the square thank you -- -- -- of the foursquare has rolled out. A new privacy options to help prevent you. From accidentally share your home address with strangers now what I like about this story is that it's -- This -- That -- really should be -- previously foursquare was not preventing you from unwittingly sharing your fingers. But now you can bet that address -- -- I I swear. I signed up for a long time ago but on my phone I had -- men may be users in the Tarrant and like help us out. I had sworn they asked for me to punch in my home address and I was like there's no -- -- putting this in here. It ended this article seems confirmed that they might have asked for that but now you can only say the show where I live yet when -- patient -- -- US -- a good idea -- -- -- -- home anyway. -- -- -- -- taken it like taking -- -- manna and is but and and I know landed you at Davis -- -- -- makes of them -- hardy plants and whenever -- -- do that yet and then it's always -- I was I was like it's with a background in an. The -- Sharon has corrected mean me Wetzel says details and every time I see Barnes and Noble's DT event of. Anyone speak up I didn't know why we didn't let you know sometimes you flat -- That if I arms you know I'm wrong guys have. About a minute -- going to be like media and new. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Just wanna let you know I've been messing with you this whole time -- you -- -- I knew this it's Barnes and Noble's. It's it's a relief that foursquare has now decided to relatives new feature where you can protect the privacy of your own home. Because as it turns out also this week they announced that they passed one billion. Checking. At one don't think at last week but in just announced it today well as an add on -- the story yes and period and drink a lot idiotic. A solid so they middle video on the path to one billion probably -- -- as your house and. Bright -- It's out of -- here I block that it. Imagery and also like blog if you live near -- Barnes and Noble's. RI also windows eight developer tablets. Popping up on eBay's. It's if you need for people that acquired the windows developer tablets at the Microsoft's build conference -- stop that. People are throwing them up on eBay. And it. Some of them are selling it for up up to 2000 dollars that's for the development tablet. People are fired up the windows eight tablet I I I would -- clinical and zoning amendment that's pretty cool yeah the developers like a Casey did been there done that generally do anything within it's a year away. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It's not -- and and actually way more than even the -- Sony. I got a weapon of the show gonna finish up about it I was about us that about the espresso cup. The target of any US here about how -- -- -- zigzag pattern designers. They did -- she did a promotion with target. And it. It was mass hysteria took down the website and there is actually attacking dog's president and cover it because -- -- target they were calling -- the -- Sony moments. Because they had no idea like how did Allen's image -- Symbian to and the entire target web sites have been like a friend went to U. That the target in temperatures and she said that it was a completely sold out like they open at 8 AM. And they were completely sold out at 805. It was insane the a lot of those being thrown have been stocking them the little espresso cup collection which -- -- -- says that but I am. And it was -- -- not even in stores they can even send people to link and the vote in implode and stores like my parents live to try to find it the only online and then now they're going on eBay for -- -- -- this is why we didn't talk about it when you Oregon because we had. Male guests throughout and then it was would have had nearly that much the -- -- you and play them on hand there was it was really they're just wasn't enough to say. Okay guys that get enough of us when there were two guys -- -- -- in our feedback -- Aren't so yesterday. I said that I really want -- -- Colleen. About Netflix and please tell us pleased and -- times -- -- to thirty seconds and then I said yes ever -- -- -- out. -- think that. And then -- as -- so -- does Puerto -- and ran with it for two minutes and thirty seconds. Which we're not gonna play -- we that we love you man but we can't Linkedin but we'll give you like a sample -- maybe like a minute's worth of sampling Bordeaux spots. About -- -- cents. I got it at -- laughed out loud I I don't want it calling it -- like. -- -- -- But there or I -- I totally I want to but I can't and then I'll pack it reporter -- all -- got it got really talk about. It. -- -- -- map like. You can't anymore new flat out there. Help me improperly like and how are so cool that -- -- -- kind of marketing purse and though. I'm so much brand equity is the roll out the window with -- little. I -- some degree but. -- you -- talk about everything twenty minute I don't wanna -- expect -- you know what they expect to happen now it might not. -- consulting company helped -- -- -- -- Click here where we can you quit because we -- up. You've got back turn around you are equipped didn't name a little. Bit we want it. Only they -- always been -- Netflix. I mean we want. And wants a little later -- down now typically those that other clay Ford -- -- -- That's -- I could give -- again. -- -- Rapid improvements. Cost structure Ford though is amazing when -- -- -- -- that I'm -- -- -- All called little into the background is an excellent you guys know Florida was called -- -- run came in at huge when He for -- -- for them might be the longest tunnel ever. Still going. Still go into that seedlings. Only did this as well two minutes over -- just -- good. This is still confident you. Are and where where it's. Okay we got our next China again -- Yes so that the feedback has been rolling in obviously about the change to -- -- I'm weekly which starts next week this is our last week and daily shows so we really want to make sure that we play and play your angry -- and read your angry emails. Engineered sensors on so. We have a really important question about that transition. From mobile. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- What happened here let. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- let me make this clear we are going to have -- still and we've been talking about ways to you know. Do that in another way yeah we were so tell us what you think actually we would love to hear from you because that the show is best when you tell us. We had -- monthly. I -- we do computer that monthly. But let us know would be ending you know every show's -- cannibalize yet everything we have much I think maybe once a month so anyway let us so we think we're right now we're thinking once a month and it is -- Yeah exactly we've been. Everything is possible once. Once we -- you love that. What's under this happened but anyways yeah all but -- serve for this week's visibly guys this is our last. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Are right -- -- emails and comes to us from Thomas Thomas writes in I know everyone is bashing on Netflix but I think they're paying attention is something that -- is ignoring. Mainly the postal cutbacks these will affect the dvd delivery service in two ways first post -- has announced a massive cutback in the number of processing senators. This of the closures will essentially add one data delivery time -- -- used to take two days received. Will now take. Three the second part is the cutback of Saturday delivery when you combine both things you'll have a -- of cumulative slowdown in the delivery and return of dvds. By the way I'm traveling through some Cisco on the -- New Zealand organized number. We'll see about that -- think we'll see but yet that's -- that's gonna point. -- change its -- not so quick -- Slightly less -- with similar ordinance said one of the changed in at zero. Deserted. -- -- And they just tainted than Netflix -- that -- they couldn't you just put it like Netflix and do like dvd in the corner real small dvd and -- while. While. That'll be 50000 dollars but a two -- -- Doctor all right then those -- -- slow clap -- -- absolutely stellar with cash in on an epic these yesterday bank account you. He said Richard Brown -- aside -- or exit. After the price hike and shareholder meeting people hot yet decided to switch to streaming only -- of the catalogs fax but the dvds just sat and make -- -- -- for weeks. I think when there's a physical or minor -- -- using something that you pay for the constant reminder gets -- quicker and like my gym membership for example. But now at the -- clicks your curve ball now that the additional wave of fury has blown over me. I think I might switch back to disks for two reasons. One at a casual gamer I've always been intrigued by game live but didn't play enough to merit a monthly fee with this I can switch between games and movies for one -- -- -- pain. To the streaming catalog. Really sucks and I'm convinced that it's not going to improve between -- as a content companies the empty promises and gravitas to the Netflix CEO -- basically lost hope for now so until there are really compelling choice is to stream. I'm out plus now gets played gears three and an island without forking over a hundred plus bucks -- home. You know it's not as a compelling argument. -- and a lot of people have written in and told us and we've seen around the -- like. Actual compelling for the dvd service is the games out on the moon so it's in CNET -- not to -- -- but the only one that talked about -- I'm willing to do this -- -- games so I know I know we wishing Hillary -- -- We've been asking for games -- Netflix for years and that is like. I wonder is gonna end up back bank that's so funny that you know in a lot of ways what what they're trying to do is like we said take a sick and dying patient that is the dvd business and -- -- up and attic and colonized you know. But they may have really reinvigorated it yeah you know because of the gaming and the -- and it's a pretty cheap service now the you don't include the streaming. And the streaming -- and. -- a lot of team people people that wanna even play games that don't have enough time not an -- they're not willing to pay sixty bucks for games these days know I know and they're out there are tons of games I wanna try and I'm never gonna -- and -- their element and not -- about it. I used to have game plan was working with gamespot and loved it just play game forever and you know you can keep it as long as -- wants money to stop. I don't work for gamespot -- -- That service normally like ten dollars a month. I'm -- is ending a library -- -- that could affect. You didn't use it all right distance -- from Brandon from Grand Rapids, Michigan but there's a response to story about Comcast and Verizon. Being close to a deal to use the Xbox as a set top box I have to call them late to the party. In He has had this feature for their U verse for probably close to a year now -- is actually said -- up -- yup no monthly fee for Sony saves the cost of the receiver loved the show. And -- of the weekly version -- -- but this is cool you know we had heard about this but on -- CF you know there's a lot of stores about -- of don't always catch everything but. Through AT&T'S website specifically you can actually for 99 dollars get this -- of Xbox. -- then turns your Xbox and gives you the functionality to not only use it as a DVR. Crazy Newton but -- sees it for live TV. That is very cool and make it mainly equal because -- -- -- in place. Which the paying you know especially if -- demy -- use your Xbox a lot for other content -- -- knowing that go back and forth between that top ethnic who it'll. That's awesome. And then Chris from illiterate and said on Monday show Hollywood secular keyboard is not working properly -- hundred -- -- tech support at Verizon Wireless. And found that Motorola released an update on the fourteenth that should fix the keyboard. Although of course -- has not ruled it out yet. So I don't have that -- yet however. He says. Most of the keyboard issues can be fixed by going to settings applications manage applications scroll under the all category -- multi touch keyboard. And press clear data He said this -- worked with every customer has called into -- party which costs and and somebody else treated me that same tip and I tried any -- really worked. Actually Luke actually did forced quit and then cleared and it just to make sure -- stopped the current process in the data. I should have thought that because that's only with an -- able to keep my GPS working reliably -- interactive but occasionally acting joining the data can -- -- -- and because it's like windows now. I mean risk He had enough of the best analogy again likely -- your registry can easily pull it ever phone you have you have to restarted every once in -- all your notes and beyond that. He started the phone a million times -- definitely get to go into the individual applications clear out the Davis of the cast isn't it but the great news is. That's hip totally works like all you have to do is the seven thing but at least it's gonna keep me from bursting into tears every time attorney easement on. Alice you thank you I'll see you in line with -- in October -- yet. -- Next the results for -- -- That was either summoned and an unintentional humor shear genius to follow the Netflix clicks -- lengthy discussion with a lengthy reminder of the format changes for the show. Let's check the parallels -- -- and Green and discipline in the customers and fan base with large changes check. Reducing the amount of content offered check. Destroy the brand equity that's been built up and be loved by the fans by changing the core of what's offered check. Going from one of the most popular brands in -- particular space to just another option. Check. Claiming. That the changes will be for the best the long run despite -- overwhelmingly unpopular. Shack. That's some funny stuff right there doesn't know the fact that I'm typing this you might theaters hopefully -- just Tryon from the laughing or maybe that. To sign and read it and move on from the depression states to. Acceptance and completely the man like that grief journey -- Internet and at that -- Talk about it. -- -- we are going to deliver on our promise don't worry. -- -- -- I know when you guys bring it up it makes us feel extra. -- -- -- Achieving coming. Desert you and it on that note impact AG from a place right in and says it is limited they -- what they did that -- It's got the. -- viewed from a place. -- -- that face when energy dollar going meet network -- network from 8 AM in the morning till five in the afternoon -- nothing putting little boxes into bigger boxes and I'll be doing this until I get out of college. In the meantime it is mind numbing -- boring and monotonous -- I'm allowed to listen to things commander retired founder and non avid music and and I believe -- my -- fifty plus audible books and forty hours a week in less than six months. And the podcast a pretty easily kept me going. You know what I switched to weekly I'm going to issue by reducing your listener attendance and only listening to one episode you produce a week. -- -- He says I called but the mailbox as well that's part of. -- And -- there -- And -- -- -- and worse but trust us -- I mean. Wait you'll still have daily contents of oral or will take the day of the place of the daily news. And then. We've got a whole lineup of CNET live shows that are going to be happening every week plus the new shows that -- in India. 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