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Ep. 1499: Finally, Venn diagrams come to social networking!On today's show, we're kind of down on Microsoft Office 365 and poor MySpace's future, but we feel a tiny bit positive about the overlapping circles of nerdiness that could be possible with Google's new Plus social networking beta. Also, find out what...
-- Today is Tuesday June 28 2011. Mining with Steven -- -- I'm Bratz dolls. I am Hollywood welcome few buzz out loud to the podcast of indeterminate length it is episode 14109. -- remove one. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- That's why I -- I blew it. Whatever and and sometimes they had taken a vacation we are joined in studio today by Jason parker senior associate editor -- at download.com. -- everywhere and CNET download or whatever CNET download however we do our branding the games -- day's end though is here and we're very that it actually has now we can punt on understanding office 365 because Jason. Is totally here to tell us to give us the deep dish -- on how they -- you reviewed it and the first thing that everyone's talking about is. Off the C 65. And Google labs yes so I how to how to eat at and a background -- -- that Microsoft did announce today. That it's -- moving office into the cloud read online applications we've kind of been anticipating this for awhile. So -- others of those things where when I read it this morning at. And but now we have the whole suite in the cloud is that right. That yeah -- the plug in has been around for long time -- and I know that's why most people I think it's safe and has already been here forever that's why. But I of the -- it's finally launched. And I think the main thing that I think they're banking on is that people are already used to using Microsoft Office. And so the bill that just jump right into the schools use them online McLeod. And then -- be able to share all their stuff together and it's much easier than learning a whole news school. Ends these tools will be like -- word excel yet. Our outlook PowerPoint -- -- the next one. They'll some I read that there -- also kind of putting some of the hooks like their server exchange. Server and add to SharePoint -- -- of migration -- trying to bring everything together in the cloud with all of their different services. -- and link online as well so they can do that I am messaging and online meetings. And the whole thing is all shared together and and one of the really great things I think about it is that there -- a thing called the -- site. Which is sort of like that where people can go and check in. At their job they can check in and that managers can leave messages for their employees for the team and then. Yeah well checking for a minute late yesterday like I cannot find the -- will hopefully -- it managers learn better read it yet so it is that sort of thing but then there's also all -- shared documents across. Bottom. Makes it seems pretty useful. Makes it even easier to spend more time at home working from home I'm afraid that large -- now it's one thing about that posters about this is there's -- be subscription service. Attacks -- is that creek has its is that gearing more toward small business medium business. Yeah we'll have -- -- sort of a tiered package thing where the lowest level sort of like the professionals and small business up to 25. Employees are. Would only be six dollars per person per month. You know which is still a pretty lucky that -- -- more than free on who laughed yeah but. Or Google docs exits and -- -- but. And the operating there's temperatures for enterprise that start at ten dollars per person -- month. All the way up to 27 dollars per person per month that gives you all the features the whole package. That is a lot. I think if you really -- Brigham and found that is a lot of even ten dollars per person permanently -- dollars is -- if -- very small business yes but 27 bucks per person per month that's insane there's -- little but not back the -- -- -- -- you know that's your whole office of that your work can mean. -- -- -- To me I mean what do you think alike are businesses really in this day -- -- it is it that much of a value add over free especially considering how -- the -- -- and I don't already -- business are still gonna be willing to pay like ten grand a month. For Google Earth for our Microsoft Office. I -- that much better you know. I think it depends on the scale -- the business because we we've seen at least with Microsoft's office or 365 in the cloud it does have more full fledged features. In the you know it's feels like a native office experience where we complain about Google docs a lot great we love it we give -- the benefit of the doubt because it's free. But there's certain things that were like why -- it just due this like this. You know I've seen from what I've read I haven't got have been able to put my hands -- -- -- -- that really does feel like you're actually using the full fledged word in an excel one. -- moons of abbreviated feature set but I think the advantages that just that people. Just that people automatically know how to use a lot of stuff that certain there wouldn't. And that it's all tied together into a package so that all of the different moving parts. Authorities are laid out for managers like how to use it it's it's not just you know here the tools it's -- also how to use the tools to work together. Gonna have to come down -- use case for so if you're like us you know that are doing prepping shows Google docs the -- right -- It's her like a full pledged businessmen in 1020 people it's -- be a different story. And a man I gotta say if eyewear I mean I don't know right I'm not in and I don't have tomatoes ninety decisions but to mean you can buy the software suite. We're not have to pay a monthly fee not upgrade it for like three to ten years consensus -- which we've seen and then -- people to work out the rest within -- mean really can then you can do that cloud sharing almost for free with Google docs right. Like a feeling that combination to be would be way more compelling and all of a sudden tacking on a huge monthly fee. To my software costs right now. I mean I haven't seen how -- the collaboration features are -- no doubt be the -- entries in the cloud in the collaboration wherever you are wherever you go. That might be an advantage that this compelling for small business I concede that but. The will think we'll save anyway you can see Jason parker has a full review. Over at CNET download.com and being promoted right now on cnet.com -- can go and read the whole thing with the media oh. And the slide shows and all that. Yes checking out her body thanks you and -- thanks -- giving -- -- download. Hello. -- use and think wow I know I have an investor and. Can we just remember that moment in time that yes Molly makes horrible jokes just as -- much as idea. And I laugh at them. I don't laugh -- my horrible events to -- supposed to be bad. News that the -- all right any -- and I think there is a bit but. Oh and -- edit a mammoth -- blood of man threw him in the lab and a boon to all in other -- adopting. AL is nearing its end today. With a low. Thirty million dollar price tags and a buyer you've never heard -- That would have actually not that the president and nobody thought anybody -- -- Yahoo! is gonna do it. Yet so you know the three hour. Auction accordingly according to the all things. It's not supposed to have two bidders that we're not really -- Miller was one of them is name specific media the other is golden gate capital to the forefront for the acquisition. I just you know we've seen how brands or try try to be reinvigorated. And acquired by companies just like any other. -- corporate brick and mortar brand it doesn't work that well then once people lost the faith once people stop going why are they going to go back to brand -- -- at the long time ago. Yeah I'm gonna -- -- and an ad network you can just used the kind of existing. User base because there is one right there are still several hundred people like things on MySpace or -- 150 million maybe. You could still use that. Based -- sort of distant. An advertising platform you know may yet -- These -- this user bases. Less and less engaged they are using the service -- -- -- -- reach I think there's -- add an estimate there must be some deals that might be valuable there might be some Nikes and intellectual properties of the -- -- staff. The main value and it would be trying to leverage the fact that. The MySpace music you know using that whole MySpace music hook it says that both company -- There that's one of the things that they're looking to transfer over and that's what they're kind of leverage and on but even at that -- we have Amazon music we have you know we have all these different. Source obviously iTunes. Different services that people are going for the music they're not going to MySpace for music. -- I mean I guess I really do have a very hard time figuring out what one of these -- is gonna do with MySpace but I guess we'll find out. Meanwhile there are a lot of companies are places in the first these -- you notice that's a -- all right -- -- 360 vote came MySpace I. Inferred. Office 365 thing like that such a good idea for them to move that's -- in the cloud but I just don't understand why they priced it that -- considering that their main competition is free. You know it -- anyway back to -- space. I don't know what if you're gonna do with it at 39 dollars with. Not nothing I guess not -- -- there are also reports that MySpace may have. Pretty major layoffs sometime this week the timing is uncertain but it would obviously not be much of a surprise. The latest report seems to be at the company expects to lay off about a 115. Of its 400 employees. Tomorrow to be Wednesday -- -- -- employer isn't in this day and age of light tech sites so small it's really small you know and a. I gotta say overall like they really definitely trump a lot -- figure a lot of the people it's a -- there. Are either engineers or salespeople. It sounds like as scary that sounds they say -- apart -- gawker some employees are apparently looking forward to the layoffs. One MySpace at the friends of the company -- apparently everyone's expecting -- and hoping for it. I think the management owes the employees severance because of the terrible management mistakes they presided over. Yeah should never underestimate getting laid off is sometimes a good thing yeah that will actually a lot of -- as a permanent thing -- it from Skype. Could benefit I mean real action that we don't we met ignoring the Skype scandal all week that man have they done some sleazy stuffed and their employees recently -- not cool so I would just understand -- and MySpace like. -- -- -- -- Don't get your hopes up like don't be don't be put down a down payment on cars or whatever thinking you're gonna get a good severance -- he does do not now yeah. -- -- that's depressing let's move on. -- -- and you like other crazy forays into social networking -- I -- I can't. Listed -- I can't get its within the next if the next FaceBook everybody. Thank you too high tech Jeff and Twitter who has sent me this tip like right before the show. The Google plus social network is now in a limited field trial. It is that it's available. And Reuters and has put out a little first look at it with a top secret demo. And it apparently they're trying to do the whole actual social network the depriving the biggest surprise actually appears to be that like. No one found out about London in their -- small level -- -- really quiet rumors about Google plus happening but. Apparently it happened. I think that also indicates the fact that people just don't need or want another network. Eight if there was a lot of demand for what is Google doing I think we would have heard about. A lot more the rumblings now let every wants to know what is Google plus -- -- why why would we even give it a chance so Google's betting that its approach to privacy and extensive controls. Over how you share information on your -- -- it is going to set Google plus apart and if that's the case they're going to need to can it really showcase that. And heal the wounds of what happened with the past their past efforts -- sharing information. Over social network if they really want to -- -- people to give this -- -- And good for them for really. Putting thing that privacy an extensive controls over who you share with is going to be the key to -- all. The service revolves around this concept of circles. He's just create as many circles as you like for whatever categories he wants he could have like your family circle your coworker I love that Google is just so Google Writely. The band diagram model that's that's just one airs though yeah if it's a drag and drop I'm down with that it actually be it's very it's -- -- -- I have to say. I've been burned by Google before. They definitely if -- to launch these things without giving them much thought but we know that they've made social a huge initiative they've said that everybody's bonus 20% of everyone in the entire company's bonus. Is gonna be tied in parts of social so they're very invested in this and if they do it right eight. I mean -- have a lot of services -- Google that I can't share with FaceBook which is annoying. And then FaceBook -- -- keeps getting increasingly annoying like I could definitely see if anybody's gonna pull people from FaceBook. Google is in the only position I can think -- to be convenient enough to make it work right. This is also in other towns they just kind of pointed out it's going to be another fragmented experience this time on the social network -- like -- said. Not all the services from Google can be plugged -- the FaceBook will everyone plug in their services into Google to help them out BA more BP social network. I just feel like I know a lot of people who are on FaceBook but also used Gmail and Google calendar and like a lot of a thirty use a bunch of those services for everything or Picasa I -- the cost. So it like I use everything. I use Google for everything but -- social networking so would actually be very easy for me to -- -- -- Color and a little social network fatigue to -- FaceBook I haven't been we've talked about how the numbers -- doodle on FaceBook. Are people getting fifty to dislike OK I've done the whole social network thing I'll check it once a while but not. Every day every hour flight and used if you gasses a year ago we were checking -- but every day every half an hour ten minutes. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You might want into your social network. Like you -- to add a person to one of those groups you actually does drag and drop. Which is cool hey that's -- -- -- -- -- and then when you want to remove someone from a certainly drag their image out of the circle and edit. Into a little cloud of smoke when I was a -- I would still like a black hole vortex. I one -- those circles. All and -- Sure that's -- it into finally dumped them forever it's like only third east Indian family here whatever you shouldn't be -- -- -- that your coworker blah blah -- actually like I can think it's hard to set up the different groups for -- but then I end up to being like you know so I hope that you can -- people to finally because instead of going a my settings and check mark -- -- someone I wanna delete -- -- you know make trade a red circles say. Never talk to -- and again. Drag and drop -- the cathartic. -- because they -- and that's isn't it guessed -- Google and I'm sure their respective net let's see can control how much of your profiles visible to other people on the network. For example your name and -- occupation can be visible to some people whereas your relations status can be visible to others relationship status. And any type a person's name until box and you can see what your profile looks like through their eyes so. Fundamentally. And very purposefully Google is taking the opposite approach a FaceBook like actually as opposed to saying that -- Apple control. Via a simple -- a series of 9000 steps in your privacy control settings by the way. I was diving through their yesterday trying to fix something that actually did on my profile announcement at -- like those privacy settings -- Impossible you have to deal at. Google is specifically an out of the gate saying you'll be able to like my new -- control. Literally to the individual level who sees what on the service -- I would. -- thing that's really cool because if there's any compelling feature to a social network that what they don't have right now is that type of my mute control also Google's plan to release. Mobile apps for Google plus and the -- -- phones and iphones so we can expect to be it's adding that -- phone in the near future written. It was all there by amber can you imagine it was all super integrated like -- And I would need it would be united sick if you're a Google user you'll probably love this you just gotta get -- -- to jump on it that's just I kind of thinking if if you are already a Google user and a lot of people are. This could be the easiest -- to switch -- to -- like a bunch of people might as opposed to. A new social networks bringing up out of the ground. Nobody's gonna move from -- you know. Yes so -- you guys we wanna know -- you if you got if you're open in the or you're willing -- you wanna give Google plus the chance that we wanna know why or why not it -- you would just tell us send us your emails abuzz at cnet.com and you know how we like that feedback so -- we'll we'll read some of -- And now I really wanna know if he doesn't leave they spoke for those of you try it out what it what are your what -- your I think a lot of people leave because they've made that fat Friendster they left MySpace and other slowly gonna start leaving FaceBook it. Just kind of like a cycle that all these social networks have so I think people are gonna start leaving. Trying -- that gave us -- a chance. A -- less well a mobile. Edit now -- -- there's a big there's a big vision going up on his -- there really is there is such really -- -- Not -- it's bad joke -- I really just us at -- if you did turn off by now but we're really thankful. Lest you get like tune fuzzy in your feelings about Google. Dude do you remember that Google does have as we know a lot of information about you including your private usage information that is how you use Google and what you search for. And apparently governments. Have come knocking on Google's -- more and more frequently. Asking for that information. Google -- 8880. Requests from the United States government last year asking for information on people using its services. That's -- the company wrote on Monday the total number is likely higher because school statistics only cover criminal investigations. By far the most active and successful solicitor private info from Google is the US accounted for 13 of all federal request last year yep that's kinda scary. -- the government is just coming after people -- now I mean. It makes sense I guess and -- and likely. Pointed out most of these are criminal requests or -- ones that are reported but I am pretty curious about the other one. He also are asked -- how much information we don't know exactly what or how much information then. Google in response is turning over an article here it says Google provided at least. 4323. Pieces of -- to -- to the US. A home but I'm curious how detailed and how much they Digg and what they end up giving the US government and what kind of -- these are them. As is that it's a national security request. Does Google give them and -- let them go to town. Yeah -- -- now I mean I would assume to some extent they do as long as the procedures the proper procedures are followed me like there's you know due process and dust content of and are now it is interesting though that there are all of these other government -- -- Google's Orkut service as we know is -- the most popular social networking website and Brazil also in all Google received. A whole bunch of -- of requests from Brazil. For information altered twice the total was 27625. -- for a request from 26 countries last year. They don't actually break out the individual requests but it's sort of surprising they say also that go to -- to a government. Has a 60% average success rate for actually receiving the data it -- -- -- little -- you wanna see that number. -- -- a little I also like the picture where its citizens soft focus behind Barack Obama article. That's -- I had no -- get that picture is the scariest thing about that I mean I think we've all known and or is it stands to reason that any. Entity that is collecting a lot of information about specific user behavior becomes a really useful tool for law enforcement. And then it's just you know question -- do they cross the line or not. Google for it to its credit and I like this puts out -- twice yearly transparency report. Where they say this is how many requests for your I mean Google at least you know they're collecting the information they're turning -- of the government when asked. You know and and assuming that those requests -- due process like with that and involve a warrant or whatever is necessary. And then they tell you hate all these government -- information FYI. So at least you know. I don't know if that makes me feel that much better but you know it'd be way worst -- -- idea. Oh yeah yeah so there's -- color coming out of China where it. I view the big daddy search engine over in China is planning to use Android to build its own operating system code named species. -- kind of dismissed the rumors saying that you know sure we're treated -- in development mobile ad product but they did it outright deny. There are working on -- mobile OS project. This it absolutely makes sense for them and their -- because again they did just harvests all that data through mobile phones holdover in China. Them so it. It's instinct that is inching in its its smart. Because that that has been the one place where they've had to kind of piecemeal shut Google down. Because -- then implement you know it's baked into Android phones and so they've had to go and kind of like -- and -- -- they can integrate Baidu at the -- -- then across the board. Yeah they're like a good idea Google thanks for that. In a pump this into our billions and billions of people here -- general country compared to other than Google granting about 151000. Requests over its hundreds of millions of users as members machine pointed out like Baidu. -- -- think really the government's -- have to act. And information this is gonna be like -- opened. I can't do that and that's how they roll -- take a quick break when we come back how I am totally freaking write about you readers. All the Android devices that are being activated every day and then. Artificial -- again we can't help. -- hey that little -- thing flew away. Welcome to bus sellout on this beautiful -- its icy rainy outside -- -- Cisco which is. And a depressing. Molly Wood in the house hello everyone. Stephen -- to rent -- show in fact Steven -- of -- in the shows so well. If you watch our show live in the -- he -- to -- -- podcast we have lower third graphics. -- we went to the break I saw the -- ball. Like fly away at enemy can fly I don't know why Michael is hot -- I was -- did -- -- that -- -- was -- little areas. Yeah but that's crazy I I don't know a discount my eyes so any is there with you to edit the cutest little -- whatever you'd like. Some way -- manatee carcass like a latins. -- stuff all right back to -- guys. Grows more slowly and -- you want it -- -- this I have been having this byte with Brian -- for like a year -- about. A dedicated device that just works and is good for books -- the -- like not a -- ready for a tablet. And a tablet costs so much more. Yes this research Mikey to come running in here right now with the drink for me because I won this one yes we should and also let's talk about the price point. -- -- like pop -- fight with Cooley who will. Area there and the few Internet -- on the and that their project the research that they do a lot of these everything's on tech devices and. Gadgets and trends based found that the new United States the share of adults that own an e-book reader double to 12% in May 2011. From 6% in 2010 that's only a six month span. Download books and periodicals this the first time they started measuring this and also -- in an interest in look they did -- -- diagram talk about. Behavior between. And -- users. And it says a court across all adults and 9%. -- an. 5% on a tablet. But not an. 3% owned. Both an. Moon but clearly you're seeing a lot more people -- years yeah that's me I haven't I haven't on the Kindle thing now that a -- might do that nothing but a lot of have a lot of books on my Kindle so. A -- and the buying -- Kindle. Yet -- I don't -- I mean. I wanna wanna for the beach to get beat up -- -- read exactly Emmy and that's the thing right as I think it's just a much more it's all about price. It's a much more usable device in way more locations he -- we -- camping you can take a candle to the beach you -- -- Kindle to a copy shop and not worry about getting -- I mean that tablet just has a smaller use case and then the fact is that talked about -- a lot I used to read books on my iPad for all of like a week until I began to get -- -- Made my wrist hurt and then as president falsely balls reading and break -- -- because metabolism -- African based. And it weighed so much -- -- -- -- I mean there's a reason that people like. Still read -- This segment was also brought -- by Amazon Kindle. -- I like I'll ever Anglican -- off with -- and yet when you get when. I mean I do you feel like you're gonna continue to see themselves like gangbusters because they're just there a great gift for everyone you know like there. But era here we differently -- the -- for. It's like you know I've -- an -- for the roku for a year and a half for the same reason like this is great. -- also got a numbers and projections of how -- -- know what Amazon has never revealed their actual. Numbers of the use of Kindle sold. So this article from CNN they talk about some of the projections where Apple has at the moment sold more than 25 million ipads were based on the numbers you know. Kind of the rough numbers the percentages of usage and ownership and you -- Amazon is forecast of potentially sell 1717. Point five million Kindle -- the -- edit that I also don't like. What he has -- I don't have -- have a little chat -- momentum the funniest thing ever saw the name build a decade from the chat room for staying in all caps in all caps and insect. How are -- Jackson books. It's way to go out and -- nobody thought about iPhone often. I -- super growth story today -- -- about this that some people are trying to take on the Netflix model out. -- movie pass. So there's -- you possibly -- company right yeah now it's a subscription service from movie past so for fifty dollars a month. -- go to whatever movie you want as often as you want in the theater it's like Netflix -- -- This is rolling out this is in their beta right now it's a launching officially as a private -- June 20 ninth. But for fifty dollar month subscription fee you'll have access to currently a select them out of the editors. It's right else running in the -- -- Bay Area. But there's a lot of the major theaters that we go to that I go to hear that are on -- this is gonna be really a limited test but. Depending on who you are. I remember at a certain time in my life I went to the movies constantly yeah and fifty doll wedding and a movie averages around thirteen fifteen bucks now upon -- -- Fifty dollars a month. If the if ignorant of the popcorn done and me if -- can avoid this amp. Free popcorn with every Blu-ray pop part of the remotely like a Mac and now I love it and it's to protect you because you can use as many times you want and -- and use the phone to reserve here's The Daily Show and her old. I K I got movie -- the app animal go it and is there a movie pass pass pass line. That'll hold their totally without being so this is based off an -- -- five applications. Also they're talking about how all you'll be able through the app to pre order the dvd for the move -- watching -- digital download. Also. They said that they're working on a model to -- have kind of a dollar increase or how it's gonna work with IMAX and 3-D titles -- but this is this is clever app. I know it's not for me right now but I like what they're trying here. Trying to do here. Yeah -- I think -- again I think it's. It's an interesting experiment and they need to start -- those experiments when it comes to the theater experience because frankly like. Just -- -- trailers for every single movie being in 3-D from now until the end of time that's not gonna cut it. You know like you gotta make give people a better reason to go and this certainly makes that easier. And potentially more economical if you're really really into -- spinal of people are. People like matinee at dude came not all those can -- all the time I had easy like jobs and I have video games to play. -- -- -- And I'm pretty fired up with about my future with Kinect and Windows Phone -- you have to connect I have -- connect. And I'm not -- -- an -- the Windows Phone situation. And so this is a cool little showcase in tech demo there's a video included in this article the last February on the kind of releasing this now -- -- showing. The possibilities of Kinect and Windows Phone 7 used together a lot of what connect is trying to do with some their future games now is really leverage that voice. Detection and voice control capability so they -- this demo how if you're watching like a TV program and Windows Phone 7. Will be -- with a live TV API but what this would allow you to deal based on this demo is let's -- were watching something. And we see an -- than we like the car and we wanna say. Find this near me. -- would bench top tier phone show a map of -- a car dealership that has a car. And that's not bad and also if you're watching the TV show you wanna add it to your schedule. Or your TV schedule programming -- put a note on your phone. You say like add this to my schedule and it goes your phone and -- -- -- party schedule. Have a little sound by little demo available anywhere equip them. You can play that little click please do -- well why don't we also got -- student one thing that happens in the all the time while watching TV side. Again reminded when you show. And I forget about it -- integrated there's the way for me this -- get a letter straight to my phone I would say I that I have to watch it whenever you're himself. Us and watching the show I get a prompt that -- say Xbox schedule to send reminder to your phone so let's try it okay Xbox schedule. So now -- don't need to remember when the shows coming up because my phone's gonna tell me next time. This a great way. For people to go back to TV and watch content that they really care when they really care only day it doesn't DVR -- -- -- -- I -- get -- we'll get -- so -- Microsoft puts a hard drive DVR in their Xbox I know -- -- be there to that piece of firmware upgrade because then at the 250 gig model so I'm getting down ready. That's -- -- -- out how we anyways we love canal that Apple -- -- and I like it right stuff let's let's keep your old. And today on buzz out loud with some cricket doesn't look. In news based on tweets today it and -- chief. Android chief Andy Rubin tweeted this morning that Google is now activating 500000. Devices a day. And that the rate of growth brand -- -- activation thing is four point 4%. Week over week while well you know that we should have a segment. In news they've done three -- based on -- -- Some birds. Have it survey might have something there aren't ports and -- means we'll have to -- Stellar Twitter constantly. Not us and and other people apparently do and in -- -- they get like four paragraphs out of it -- -- uneven. Also another quick hits Google launches there what do you love search to find cool services this is kind of cool if you go to WWW have -- for some reason right now you have to. -- in WW WI -- in a heated up we're now looking at earlier wasn't but WD YL dot com what do you love. You type in any item and that -- plugs directly. Into Google services so for example if I wanted to type in -- red shoes. It shows up all of Google's apps like trends how many people -- red shoes. Where on that I always -- Mobile -- shoot let nothing but it. That is have added Tom -- moment -- only one. I I -- -- -- and I was thinking about my mom element -- But at the at and MySpace are -- this could take -- You can love your mom what do you love god please keep going -- going no it's my second red suit actually and it's really cool salt Zoellick all the different apps from Google that -- plugs in the from. -- US and and it's so it brings up an integrated search result page that's got like on maps find Reggie is nearby on YouTube watch videos -- -- -- -- -- -- -- India. -- -- Red -- in 3-D with sketch -- plant near red -- event with calendars -- -- by -- patents about red -- to they have a patent hurt its image using way to discover all of the things they have for one thing make a photo album about -- of the cost of find books about riches of -- friendly -- using the 57 languages and translate access spreadsheet stuff. On the lab with ground. Keep into the Reggie then they reserves compliment or are at his outlet -- because I mean you can you get the idea let you know I gotta say. At a school and it's it's it's. Lead on this clinical talent if they so we'd like but a -- but the other thing is like about pages like a lot of pressure what you love to glad the same -- -- -- you. Steve -- and then if I. Ethnic Lebanese I don't know you guys to get a literal so it's weird if you really take that literal sometimes -- -- little boxes is stumped me at the stumper. -- -- -- -- Okay why you do that I'll read the next quickly -- -- -- -- IPO planning to. File implies a fifteen to twenty billion dollar valuation negate the game maker wants a -- -- to one point 52 billion. As part of their IPO looks like they might -- By allowing for it tomorrow and Wednesday morning isms is now may be a big -- -- not quite as -- the from the others because. They actually mimic many. -- and then one of my favorite artists David Gray. Despite what Brian -- has done to the battle on phone all morning long. And I -- and as many many many other. Amazingly wonderful -- -- the modern day Van Morrison an element here where he noted there's nothing wrong but yes that was that articles up. It. -- hit him but he also he made history this week because he became the first music artists to -- his album. Exclusively on group on. For only six dollars which is more than half off the thirteen dollar -- retail price that was lost in town -- Dublin and twelve. Song album that -- recorded live in Dublin -- Group run it also offering subscribers a free -- to download as a sample and the album's only available as digital download I think that that. Deal is over now it only happened on Monday it only happened on Monday but. Thanks for letting us know group on over. I would appreciate I would appreciate it a little more content up there I think it's pretty amazing though you know you get I'm -- how -- -- to -- You get his live performance of -- If you put. -- But it means nothing when I know are actually I got a -- -- it -- -- -- of the gadgets. Google's first I screen so it's phone we talked about the nexus board -- this. Is now going to be possibly dubbed the nexus. Crime not to get mixed up with the nexus S or G because there's a little confusion with that. But it features 720. -- dispel annoyance. Snuggling on a rabbit -- I love it LN BDR no I wanna see this phone AS AP notice found -- -- this could be -- like the next Android phones that that the flagship Android phone much like the Droid at the time back in the day and was -- -- -- this this looks like the next Android phone to. We don't know who's gonna make it -- Samsung says Linda Simms introducing -- now that's good because I'm -- kind of done with Motorola you know I guess. Yeah I know that looks like the hot know it's interesting leak over at -- -- -- -- -- boycotting the Muslim thing to -- -- If so -- that a -- -- screen shots of the FaceBook. Tablet app. That we've been speculating about which apparently will appear on the HP touch pad which comes up -- spreading. Beautiful I'm very UCL a.'s HP touch pad resonates. I just wanna see get some momentum as I really like the level I really like the webos -- Yeah I really I would like to do nothing to you I'm very curious about -- you don't. Also a little quick peek at the Sony Vaio Z debuting in -- -- up -- April. This is a new slim Dell laptop that features Intel's light peak but also -- -- it uses the light peak connection. To connect to this tower here that stores an external CPU and optical drive so you can pull in -- way. On the go real -- -- somewhere around like sixteen millimeters thick. But then also when you go home and -- you'll get more power and optical drive with this kind of two. -- the it's hot it is the by the way also apparently unbelievably. -- -- yeah yeah I it is now up for pre order pricing starts at 2294. American dollars. And that doesn't include the dock which is another 640 -- a. Our innovation isn't cheap. Clearly -- That's -- -- the letter release like this there's there's so there's a market there for somebody. And then and now wallets -- move on to noses go directly. -- -- that science slash news that is definitely not a good idea. Not if you. I really -- paper from the university of eggs that are apparently brings the possibility of achieving brain like computing or one step closer. Like every week -- feel -- there's one more thing this is like. Apocalypse. We're trying to kill ourselves -- -- -- come the public the -- docs and other adult of the study that demonstrated for the first time at the ability to simultaneously perform information and storage tasks. Using -- phase change materials which are substances with a high heat of fusion they can actually store. And release large amounts of energy when their -- and solidified a particular temperatures. And then that. Plus the fact that they were able to use those materials to reliably execute the four basic arithmetic functions which are -- of -- in varying multiplication and division. And store information. Steams to suggest that phase change materials can be used to manufacture artificial neurons and apps is a that is awesome. Frightening. It's a it is sad I mean you know where -- when computers will there are a lot of computers and are smarter than me but -- and is clearly smarter than me do it. It does addition subtraction. What's multiplication -- getting there or get Mary -- solar atoms enjoy a humanity while you Canon. And -- -- like -- -- either stagnant or ask your boy I'm hoping for -- and if at a point now in my child because we've had a lot of conversations about but only got a more intense after her steer. -- told me that he didn't ever wanna die die ever mommy I told him like well. I know no one wants the diet possibly by the time you're -- -- you'll be able to become part robotic -- as long as you want. And a phone what other people I was terrible parenting but I say true. I don't mind it's an open mind. All right we're gonna jump over a happy ending this one's gonna brought to -- -- one if you. Mike -- asked Phil says he does -- ran across this article about open urban sort open source Urban Planning that use the Robocop statue that we talked about yesterday. As an example as a planet myself this makes sense to me anything to get folks -- -- is almost always a good thing plus. So this is article kind of planning out where. You could. Plop down that Robocop set to date we talk about how they earn somewhere like 50000 dollars for this season. And they've raised somewhere now over like 62000 dollars in their applauded allocations of whatever the problem -- that you can get help. It's amazing and it all started just in February with that flippant remark on Twitter -- and then the plans for organically emerged it's pretty fascinating. Man that I really wanna I would like to be there day when this is an innocent does -- actually on this dumbest web dot IT a crowd of Internet celeb for -- from all over the world. Bernard has the best name -- Our news and -- Delorean I'm not thank you I'll say this is the kick started -- they raise 50000 dollars kick starter to get get them -- -- I do believe kick starter was also the site that launched yet iPod nano watch. Probably that I. And pull aside are you a little in little nicer about I think they'll be -- In fact let's let's go ahead and be nice to our callers and. We love this -- -- hundreds -- thought it'd tell us why HBO go is -- an amazing thing. You don't go to their brick in -- There learning what epic or your -- -- -- -- time. Eric -- X. So a lot. It'll -- -- I already know what going to which we tell you. And -- just. No sucked -- we love -- plus plus widget like we did W have a top. But that meant that up -- now on about everything things. I'm gonna be like next step in the news would you like me do -- stop. -- we -- like yesterday about how. DVRs and set top boxes were giant energy hides but Americans would never stand for them be more power bitching they takes -- -- to start up. Turns out that -- between. Not there. They -- -- -- regarding people -- comic commentary. Com. I -- -- cut out at each art and attract people ought to be -- -- ought. At any time -- after we get that cocker. Twenty. -- -- -- -- or I should. All our Internet functionality. -- There's a great. But. At the iconic. All -- -- money can't -- art critic and I'll show. Who doesn't -- guy in a nutshell manufactures that dvi wouldn't but hey that's a what I want Adobe. -- turn anomaly making dinner well also we need to fix both of those props. For sure there's gotta be a way debatable but those dropped calls and -- returned to return your set top box and get a new day adding -- entered data. Today at the same and then we are surprising considering that it -- not tech related or near as we did get a surprising amount of -- about now like cars call rant yesterday. And I think we take out most emails but will -- -- and -- one -- because. We have to -- and because -- made me. -- Hollywood it. It hurt so internally are part of the dark -- let in months seeking a try to kill the two main character to try to get rid of them are. In Finding Nemo and the sharks try to of the fish and transit and humans -- chilled fish. Little girl -- opposition -- -- And target the -- article -- -- -- a little watched. Pixar about it but I yet mentioned that -- should not be reached. Our future. By my god. Also. Could make it around my entire point at the end but this -- geek. We also I I don't let me be clear in this movie. They actually -- someone they tortured him to death. And they -- -- -- and they're about to get crunched after watching their friend be brutally murdered with guns that does not like a shark. It's gonna eat a fish in nature world. I thought it was actually pretty tactful that he told you something this -- as a bunch of cookies. In fact I love you so much -- to buy you a botch of flowers I don't Q do you favor or smelled a land -- It's gonna. -- -- -- -- Remotely then and now -- dollars and thousands donor aid. A -- -- okay. That really shouldn't be me. Created she was a very emails yeah only the Vietnam. We wouldn't -- alright guys. Shifting gears a little. Nick -- Livni led screen actually be clear I love that was until we'd -- to connect is that I I enjoy it at out of that lab well remember yes proceed along here play an almighty we gotta play it -- -- -- god that was amazing all right. -- on -- calls it a buzz -- episode 1498 summit of the feedback -- mention FaceBook liking pages without them knowing. Actually had this from a few months ago I check my privacy settings and saw that nobody logged into my account from an unfamiliar location. I even made sure that no suspicious apps -- the permission to access information -- -- profile. After initiating a full security check I asked around and apparently other people also have this issue. I -- this is just a glitch in the basement system and that it would pass but now. Almost four months later and a bit suspicious of people are still -- -- -- -- what if FaceBook is liking pages where you. Where there's smoke there could be by -- keep uncommon name. And then also -- -- and to say it's hard to tell from thomas' question and be offered -- 98 but is it possible that he's a victim of like jacking. And then he put a link to you. So for us blog post about this thing called like jacking where apparently. It's happening all over FaceBook at the scam. And then Netflix and have a click -- account -- a year -- -- maybe you into clicking to watch a video. All look the advances that video that was posted on my guess -- what's this -- do you -- -- -- than double the name of it what's in the -- We'll know it -- they use various. Fake. Terms -- like the one I -- it's like a really dirty picture. And then the headline will be like is -- committed suicide three days later or in this case of like the really dirty picture and then I walked in on daughter embarrassing. And there I have seen this scam popping up more and I say FaceBook is really starting to be overrun with spam like. I'm shocked at how often spam shows up in my -- feet -- is people's accounts. A lot a lot if -- -- all he misses all the stuff though right that like build up until you get the tipping point. Everyone leaves and then Google's right -- to pick up the pieces and tell them anything Apple then diagram bubble sort -- it's Friday it's now finally amend -- programming comes to social networks. I write this one comes us from indeed. Encouraging. I think outlets in episode 1498 where you -- talking about the set top boxes sucking up a lot of power and try to be greener so I did a huge hole -- Obama electrical devices. -- HD DVR use about 45 to thirty watts when it's in use when it's in standby. It uses about 22 of its 43 watts of power lock. -- so my assumption is that for Comcast samba this. Half so my assumption is that for Comcast MI consist of just turning off the little blue on white. Anyways is it got me thinking Comcast is myth that Netflix are -- of them with -- and wanted to throttle them or charge them extra but now I hop. It's true it's in the actual bitter. Assuming you weren't the issue is on the other flights. Well what if the power companies threaten to charge Comcast extra for their overly consuming boxes -- there's probably no way that's even possible. But I wish it was it was stupid Comcast PS you can get one of those cheap power meters and Amazon for pretty cheap. Do you want -- bigger energy. Well and Mac. I got down from Christine and Kevin and temperament actively involved in those. And your guide also came from Chicago okay Tara -- right now Google says. So put up with -- -- zero -- with algorithmic hero. -- Ten and that's again that's amazing of -- -- encode those amazing. That so. And -- But that's or you can get those are meters at Amazon pretty cheap and I highly suggest anyone today isn't it is quite in illuminating. What they what they tell you end up unfortunately there's no way that electric companies going to be able to charge come -- You leaving your botched and doubted that it's like. My video game -- making play video games or more hours I like to. I found a thing and I can see PG neither pretty -- evil. Gone after Comcast being like the moon and the awesome picture box they'll be -- -- -- watches the I think it's probably a good time actually -- to end the show us. I it -- lead -- them not -- counting apparently because I didn't realize tomorrow's show 15100 -- -- Like -- something a little -- -- K I'll be out on Wednesday and Thursday but I will be thinking of you guys. Calibrate -- will pour some out your honor for show 15100 of -- thing and of itself. I cannot believe that happened anyway. -- -- -- -- The other. -- do post celebration will be fifty note to let a great number 1502 roles off my -- and a fifteen O two but that's classic I'll bring caked. You better are you -- you province. A -- they -- on Friday. After yet. I'm gonna take on Friday are right guys you guys won't have -- indicate the we will hear the studio -- -- sent out that below that cnet.com also. -- and 806 with 6638. CNET you guys are doing because I especially like that last all. -- and buzz at cnet.com. Is argument to keep them coming does Mondavi and there are -- -- -- I don't think you need TV's that have blocked shots depict the Bollywood -- It's.