"Ep. 1397: Where we keep you in the dark"
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Ep. 1397: Where we keep you in the dark
It's Friday, December 6th, 2013.
You're tune in to the last 404 episode of the week.
Thanks for watching.
I'm Justin Yu.
-I'm Bridget Carey.
-I'm Ariel NuÃ±ez.
What's up with you guys?
-Yeah, are you happy?
Are you excited about the weekend?
I guess so.
I'm kind of singing a lot to myself lately ever since I saw the
Sound of Music on NBC, like I just wanna sing everything [unk] singing for a musical for 404 episode, I think that would take off especially with your audience.
You haven't heard me and Ariel sing.
-Maybe you should do that.
-Not a greatest idea for us.
-Wait, tell us more about the sound of music thing.
-Well, they did the first like live musical for TV in 50 years.
This thing was in real time with Carrie Underwood and others like singing live at a sound stage
and they broadcasted it from 8 to 11 PM and I gotta say it was a pretty enchanting to watch it, although people were kinda criticizing on social media like, "It's not as good as what I've seen in Broadway.
It's not as good as this"-- you know what, you know what's not as good, reality TV.
You know, God bless NBC for doing something different than like Biggest Loser Bachelor Chef, you know, like I just-- I'm kinda glad that we kinda take chances like that.
I had a really fun time watching it.
-First of all, I love when you get that southern
accent, when you get an attitude.
-I don't know where that comes from.
I'm not from the south.
-Yeah, that comes from nowhere.
Yeah, you're not from the south, you're from Florida.
So I don't know.
The second thing is that it's so a New York thing to complain about stuff that you give for free.
-I mean, it basically was free Broadway at a front row seat with people who had been on Broadway before.
-And it wasn't on cable.
It's on broadcast television show.
-It is on-- just free people.
-Yeah, you can't complain there.
-I'm glad that you're in full for holiday mode too.
You guys get your gifts for the holiday already?
got a lot of shopping to do.
-Still got a lot of-- there wasn't much time this year, so like a one weekend less.
-So I feel a little panic I will say.
Maybe I hope people will forgive us, it's not that creative this year.
Well, for anyone else who hasn't gotten their gift-shopping done and if you have a techie in your life, CNET actually has their gift guide out for the year and we've all contributed to that in one way or another, so go and check that out.
-And it's good 'cause it's like not just "oh, best laptops" it goes beyond that.
It's like best gifts under 50, under 25--
like really specific quirky stocking stuffers.
-So things you don't normally think of.
-I really wanna buy that Chromecast for somebody in my life.
-But I feel like nobody that I would give it to would know how to use it.
-Or they be totally surprised like-- where's my Microsoft Office, where's the start menu?
-Like it's not Windows, so it's a totally different thing it would be opened too.
-But it's a good secondary computer.
-Especially for someone young, like could be your young cousins.
-Oh, the Chromecast.
Not the Chromebook.
-Oh, I was thinking Chromebook.
-No, I don't have a money to spend, come on.
I'm not gonna spend
500 bucks on somebody else.
I'm talking about the $35 stocking stuff, you know, all you're getting in the same--
-Oh, you know what?
Yeah, the Chromecast is not too bad for $35.
-Yeah, that's a perfect gift.
-And now it has a game on it-- Tic Tac Toe.
Well, you know, with the holidays coming up, it's always a tradition at least with me and my friends to watch 2 movies, and those movies are one, Love Actually, right?
We talked about this over at Thanksgiving.
-Number two, Serendipity.
-It's a holiday movie for you?
-It's a total holiday movie for me.
-I haven't seen
It is themed around Christmas?
-Yeah, it set around though at the winter time in New York.
So if you live here and it's Christmas time, you have no excuse.
Well maybe I have to see it 'cause I'm all about the Home Alone, the Jingle All The Way, and I have to see--
-and then Elf--
-with Will Ferrell.
-Yeah, of course, perfect holiday movies.
What about you?
Do you have something in your--
-Me and my brother used to always watch A Christmas Story every year.
-Just because it was always on TV and we had the whole movie like memorized.
-But besides that, no, no other movies.
-Oh, It's a Wonderful Life.
I haven't see that one too.
I think for the one in there.
-Do they still play that on TV?
But they usually play it like on, like a week before.
Like all these Christmas shows are like a week before Christmas, you know--
-Or Charlie Brown's Christmas is always a classic.
-Really good soundtrack.
But anyway, Serendipity, since you haven't seen it.
Ariel, have you seen that movie?
-I don't think so.
-So it's basically the story about this couple who meets in New York one day and they kinda fall in love
but then they get separated and it's sort of their quest to find each other after they've been separated for long.
-Before Facebook and e-mail and cellphones.
-Yeah, it would be a 20-minute movie if Facebook is around.
But actually it's funny that you bring that up because for anyone really doubting true love this season especially in the tech era.
There is a story that sort of follows along with the same plot as Serendipity, but in real life.
So kinda wanted to tell you guys and see what you think if this guy has a chance.
-So, this story is basically about a guy named Reese McKeith.
-And this is the picture of him right here.
Reese McKeith is a 25-year-old from New Zealand, he's a Kiwi.
And last year he was visiting Hong Kong over the holiday and he met this woman on New Year's eve, and you know, he was walking around and sort of admiring the lights by himself and kind of a lonely New Year's but he was walking nonetheless, and he met a woman and he spotted her crying to herself, kinda
-He doesn't-- he wasn't sure she was crying and so he kind of asked her about it and was able to cheer her up with some jokes.
And eventually he was able to find her friends that she came to her party with and they all went out and got drinks and had an amazing night while 6:00 in the morning rolls around, it was a long night and it's time to part ways and, you know, for some reason or another, she wouldn't give him her personal information maybe because she lived in a different country or she didn't think that things could work out.
regardless, instead of giving out her contact info like e-mail or Facebook, she instead gave him her name, her first name.
-And not even her full name, her first name which is Katie.
She basically gave him her hometown, which is Washington D.C.
-It's kind of a big hometown.
-Yeah, and simple instructions-- "find me" and that was it.
And so ever since then he sort of been on this huge scavenger hunt to find this
You know, a couple of months ago, he put out a plea on Facebook to try to locate this woman, and that wasn't successful.
No one knows who she was.
She wasn't in anyone's network that he knew of.
And it just didn't work out.
Well, you know, flash forward to a year later and he's back on the job.
So, I'll put a link to this in the rundown but he started another Facebook group to sort of get everybody else involved.
So what do you think?
Do you think he has a chance to track this girl down?
It's kind of a romantic story, you know, at the onset.
-When you first
hear about it.
Oh, it's kinda nice guy-meets-girl and she leaves.
-And hopes that if you really care, you'll hunt me down.
-Yeah, or let's leave it in destiny's hands.
-Or fate will bring us together all that B.S. But, you know, it's the holidays.
A lot of people are going online, they're reconnecting the family-- do you think he has a chance?
-Well, I think the fact that the story's got viral.
-But, how much time has passed since this?
Like are we talking a couple--
-It's been a year.
-A one year.
-One year, yeah.
-It's interesting because by not giving her information out, ambitious how the place where she wasn't, she really want that boyfriend that badly.
-Yeah, see that's what I was gonna ask you from female's perspective.
If you like the guy, why don't you just do everything you can to give him your information so you guys can touch--
-It's always a little touchy when the person is not from the same city because you think, "Well, is this really gonna go anywhere?"
-So maybe if you are a gentleman who really cares, he'll find me.
But it's more like, well, why don't you give your last name?
-Like that gets a little easier--
-if you find it that way.
So yes, I'm sure they'll probably get in touch because this is going viral.
-And, you know, she might even have another boyfriend or relationship, you know, going on now.
-That's what I was thinking.
-It's been a while.
You don't know where she is or what she's up to.
-What if she had-- what if she's in a relationship at that time when they met last year.
Maybe that's when she was crying 'cause they didn't-- this article didn't really talk about the reason she was crying when he found her.
-You don't know someone enough, yeah--
-Maybe they're in a fight.
And she did something that maybe she shouldn't have and that's why she didn't wanna get caught?
-There so many possibilities.
Maybe she just had a break up and it was a little too raw, you know, like there's so many things like, you know, you have a lot of fun nights with people.
I hope for the sake maybe of friendship that they can, you know, reconnect to see how you doing, doing good.
-You know, 'cause obviously this is something that's like bothering him that like, why is it been a year and he still like, I'm kinda find her and so some people go, "Oh, I had a really fun time with this person and they're kinda cool but in this age of Facebook, we wanna know, "What are you up to?" I feel like I know, so much more about strangers or people or those acquaintances because of Facebook,
and maybe he's feeling left out of like, well, what she up to?
-And who even knows if her name is Katie, the fact that she didn't give out her other details maybe she was like, "yeah, my name is Katie."
-Well she have friends, so all the friends would have to be in on faking the name maybe.
-But I mean it is intriguing and sure would make a nice little Hollywood story if they could hook up.
-There's that accident.
There's that little stolen hot love this.
No, it's just kind weird because I'm sure that this Katie
person if that's her real name.
She probably wasn't expecting the entire internet to ban together to find out her personal information, right?
-I don't think I would feel comfortable with that.
-I mean, I'm thinking about if I was in her position and this dude with picture on--
-Yeah, and he just post it on the internet and like, and list the help of everybody in the world.
Wait [unk] gets a story, I'll hold to this story and they're gonna release the last five ATMs she's visited.
Her social security number and a Google street view of her apartment.
-Like, where she'd ever checked in on Foursquare.
They're gonna triangulate her
Keep that in mind that it could kind of hurt-- it kinda can hurt the romance if you-- you know, plaster a woman's pitcher everywhere.
-But maybe not-- maybe she thinks it's entertaining 'cause you don't know what kind of fun time they had and--
-you know, maybe he's just a sweet guy.
-I am having a hard time believing that he couldn't just find her on Facebook, right?
I mean, I haven't really done a lot of stocking on Facebook myself.
-There were other friends in the group.
-But all you gotta do is type in Katie and then Washington D.C., just go
through those 30, 40 pages or whatever and find her.
-Maybe it was easier if you tried right after New Years.
Maybe he's just now regretting it because she's a little lonely that a new years is coming around and don't have a date, maybe.
-Yeah, still lonely.
What's wrong with this guy that he's still on the market?
Yeah, that's what we think.
-Here's a picture of him.
What do you think?
-He seems like a charming person.
-Does he wearing a choker?
-I can't tell from here.
-What is that?
-Well, you know, when you're in New Zealand, maybe you think-- you're more adventurous.
Maybe a shark tooth on it, I don't know.
Look at those creep shot that he's holding up to.
He clearly just took a photo of her like as she was walking away like, "yeah, yeah, just get in touch with me"--
-And [unk] pretty big, yeah.
-Well, definitely is more of the innocent weird than most of the internet.
-Yeah, that's true.
-Well, good luck to Reese, hopefully this works out.
Feel like if it didn't work the first time
maybe she doesn't wanna be found, right?
She's totally not that into.
-I gotta say.
Yeah, if you really wanna be found, usually at least connect on Facebook or something.
-It's only been a year.
-All right, well, Bridget since you're here, you know, we're contractually obligated to talk about food anytime in an episode.
And I feel like we've done a pretty good job of not, you know, getting all of us hungry during this week.
-Not healthy food though.
I hope it isn't healthy food.
-Oh, this is not healthy food.
-Yeah, 'cause I know we both really love junk foods--
-Yesterday my lunch consisted of a vending machine so--
-That's one step down below what it normally would be, which is McDonald's.
But I feel like you probably wouldn't wanna go to McDonald's yesterday.
That would have been a bad idea.
-Well, 'cause of the straight going on.
I was like, you know, I'll skip today just go with the sun chips out at the vending machine, some [unk].
-Not worth that burger patty getting thrown at you when you're walking in line.
But, you know, since didn't wanna hold off and I wanted to send you off with a good story.
In the future, you may never need to actually order a pizza for delivery ever again.
So that's not
good to you?
-Well, I mean, beyond the frozen section?
You might never in need of microwave--
-So, this is the news and this is bad news for Dominos and Pizza Hut and things like that but good news for consumers, soon you'll be able to 3D print a pizza.
You mean like all ingredients coming out of tubes kind of thing?
-Like a la printer ink but the ink is sauce and cheese
-That's exactly what it is.
-By the way, Ariel, I need to do that,
"what?" after every single story [unk].
Yeah, I need to program one of these buttons to have that "what?"
-I need that.
But yeah, it's true and it's exactly how you say it.
There's been a lot of companies testing out 3D printers food.
-Well, how do you print the dough?
-Well-- okay, so this is how it works.
Basically, the latest company to show off their designs is a company called Natural Machines.
And they come up with
the 3D printer that only works with food and it's called Foodini-- to see what they did there.
-use Foodini Plus food.
Anyway, so it doesn't really cook the food so much as assembles it, really.
So it's more of like a food assembler.
-It doesn't really cook the food.
You have to put all the pre-made and pre-cooked ingredients into capsules.
And let me see if I could scroll down and I'll show what this looks like.
-Is it just [unk] the dough out like play dough like--
I mean, they don't actually have a video of the Foodini in action but there is a quote by the founder and she says she basically
put five ingredients into different capsules, right?
-The capsules are attached to machine with the nozzle that outputs them in a different pattern, right?
-So you can program it for the ingredients to spit out maybe the dough first right obviously than the sauce than the cheese, all the ingredients on top of each other.
That's basically how it works.
She says, it's designed sort of break up the [unk] food preparation.
-'Cause everyone has a problem with that.
I can't-- forget the food printing.
I wanna hydrate my pizza.
-Yeah, you want that.
Or you want like the Star Trek food vaporizer thing--
-where you could just get anything you want.
-Well, it makes more sense than to go to the hassle and gain your 3D machine set up and in fact that has a printout things I can just imagine sloppy but it's also not as fast as maybe the microwave.
True, but a lot less depressing.
-if you have the technology to have these flavor capsules.
-What's to say that I couldn't have like a smaller version
of each of those capsules and have like, "oh, pizza in a pill.
I just got my pizza taste, you know"
-Yeah, you can do that.
-Like whatever it may be or just, you know, I could just bite on a pizza capsule.
-Right, you could just like rehydrate your own pizza or whatever.
-They have that-- well, we talk a lot about Soylent, right?
You've heard about that start up.
There's like a Kickstarter-based thing.
-Of course they named it Soylent.
-Yeah, of course.
Yeah, it was basically just a protein shake, you know, where they kind of took all the necessary ingredients you need to just live.
-What's that on the matrix?
-And they put it on
-What's that on the matrix?
-It's basically the same thing as the matrix.
Yeah, that two--
-All the best vitamins you need.
-The fiber [unk] that was.
-I don't know.
For me I feel like putting the ingredients together and assembling a pizza is kinda what makes that fun, right?
-Well, there is, I'm telling you--
-it's fun to like think about it.
I guess maybe people be interested like for long missions when they can't get access to food or places--
-places where you can't keep it fresh or something like that.
But, normally, the tastes
will not be the same.
We are programmed for that fresh taste in our tongues and in our bodies.
We're not gonna like it this much.
-So it probably is just more of a quirky thing for-- yeah, situations where maybe you're on the ship and you can't get access to the fresh ingredients.
Yeah, I really love to know how they're planning on cooking the entire thing.
How you're gonna 3D print a pizza without an oven, right?
-I don't know.
Maybe you have to put that in afterward.
-Regardless, I like that you brought up rehydrating your food because this is another story that sort of related to it.
They got the
idea, the Natural Machines company got the idea from this NASA's story that was on CNET a couple of months ago earlier this year.
So they get out of $135,000 grant, NASA did to a company sort of challenging them to build a 3D foot printer for pizza, which is basically what that other machines was in response too, right?
So this company came up with the solution that includes all the ingredients you need again to make a pizza but they put it in powder form, so that's like all the proteins, carbs and micronutrients you would find
in a regular pizza.
I can't imagine that it would be many because pizza is not exactly the healthiest thing--
-Well you have your vegetable, your dairy and your bread.
-So that's a good example of like doing the challenge of, you know, some food groups there.
-Yeah, it's not super complicated.
-And meat if you include pepperoni.
And then what they do is extract all the moisture out of it so it basically extends the shelf life of your pizza to things something like 30 years.
And, you know, the obviously, the idea is that astronauts, NASA astronauts can bring this stuff up into the air and, you know, in space and maybe cook that themselves.
-Yeah, they have to rehydrate a lot of things.
I saw them rehydrating like a Thanksgiving dinner.
-So like-- you could do a lot up there.
It's kind of surprising.
But I don't think it tastes like Mom was cooking, yeah.
have you've ever had those MREs they're called like Meals Ready to Eat, really popular with like campers and militaries--
-use them as well.
-They're basically like dried food that you pour water into and then you boil it.
-That makes things like pasta and stuff like that.
-But I've tried the beef stroganoff one time, it tasted terrible and it was also a really terrible week after that like, use your
imaginations, it's just not the best thing for your body.
I don't think our bodies are used to that stuff.
-So, I don't know, it might be a while before I really do it.
But maybe awesome if we have a 3D printer in the office and we could just print out our own lunch.
I wouldn't use it for good though, I probably print it on doughnuts, I gotta say that.
Like if I'm gonna go to the hassle of printing something, it's gotta be good, you know.
-I'm not gonna do it on healthy food.
-For something I'm just imagining like a normal laser jet printer you can find in an office but then like a bunch of doughnuts just screaming out of it.
Oh, I would start crying, all the so much joy.
Okay, you wanna talk about this sort of cautionary tale about downloading apps and releasing your privacy?
So I have my computer now just turned off on me.
-Oh, it's okay.
So yeah, this is sort of a cautionary tale we wanted to talk about, you know, just be careful the next time you downloading an app.
-Yeah, it has to do with a flashlight app.
-So basically, there's a complain that like there was an Android flashlight app--
deceived people because it had on the background a way to track your location.
Is that right?
-So there's a couple of things with Android.
It warns you on all the permissions it has with you hit okay but were so fast to make a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
-But that's the big red flag always with Android, malware or things that are or not what they seem.
-You see like some for the girls calendar app and, oh, it wants permission to do like 17 things included access to your microphone.
You might wanna think twice.
-And that's how that's usually
disguise and so this thing with, you know, the flashlight app, it also sold the information to advertisers.
-And on the advertising side, it gets a little creepy.
It-- your information is old with advertisers on things that look legit especially even on iPhones as well, we're not gonna just get it to Android here.
-Look at Nike's apps for tracking health and running.
There are some apps Livestrong, another health one.
-I read a story that a lot of these health apps are selling information to advertisers so Nike can know what you say as you are putting ad on the screen 'cause it is a free app after all and there's a banner out that goes on it.
This-- it's kinda strange like, why is this information being shared.
I can pull up the stories you can put it on the blog post later.
But it even go as far as to track apps that have to do with a woman cycle.
Why is that information?
You would think, "okay, it's my personal diary."
-You know, for people who downloaded it.
I never downloaded these kinds of things that they seemed a little
But people who do download it and wanna keep track of their food intake, whatever it is, you don't realize it's being sold.
-Nothing is free.
And some of it is being sold to, you know, WebMD or this and that, you know 'cause they wanna be able to target articles to you about the issues you're having or whatever it is.
So, it's kinda shocking that the flashlight app would do this too and they took it-- they took it to a creepy place with location.
-But even name brands you trust, don't just assume that
everyone's out just to help you track your health.
I think that's the best lesson that the takeaway from the story is if the app is free that you're the product.
-At least with Android, they gave you a pop-up warning right away that you can kind of, you know, sometimes with iPhones, they ask for the permission later and you're wondering what kind of permission do they have.
Well, just-- you know, I think a lot of people just need to use common sense, you know, the fact that it's even asking for your location data.
What is that have to do with the flashlight?
You shouldn't need that
But I think the creepier part about the story is that even before that window popped up asking for that permission on the Android platform, it was already sending out data.
So, you know, that will sort of just a red herring to even if you said no.
It already sent your data and it was too late.
And that's the thing.
The other problem I have with these stories at the FTCs, Bureau of Consumer Protection.
All they have done is basically made them create a new version of the app that
discloses more of what the data that they're capturing is.
They're not being fine.
They're not being banned from the Google Store.
-I guess that's on Google's end and they don't wanna ban it 'cause they wanna have an open platform I guess.
-But, you know, if an individual steal somebody else's private information, you're accused of identity fraud, right?
And that's a punishable offense.
You could go to jail from that depending on the data that you steal.
It could be credit card numbers, social security info.
But if a corporation does it or if a company does it and that company could just be two
guys developing an app in their basement.
They're a slap on the wrist.
I think there needs to be some more legislation.
-Their defense is that you should have seen the fine print.
-It's not always the case, right?
-Just read that terms of service.
But I mean that's the scary part here is that even if you have read it in this case, it wouldn't helped you.
Your data would have already been spread.
-But, you know what really is annoying me lately is that apps like Facebook and Twitter want my location turned on for my photos--
-otherwise, you can't take the photo
or there's a more of a delay in trying to get around it.
-That is especially a turn-off because then you know they're just doing it for information and when you have a social network like that and a job like we do.
We wanna be on Twitter.
We wanna be on Facebook.
We wanna communicate with people and now you're making it even more awkward that had to be extra careful that the photo I take doesn't have a GPS location tied to it.
-If people take pictures in their homes all the time.
-It's very uncomfortable that they kinda make that setting an extra thing and then you have to get over.
So I'm very turned off by that.
-And it makes you not wanna use it.
It makes you-- it takes the fun out of it when you have to get around things like that.
-Yeah, sort of a mine field, right?
Like you don't really need my location on for a photo, like, let's get real.
-I mean the sort of ironic part about the story is that as I was reading it, a lot of the people had shared this story on Facebook and there's something very ironic about them being upset about their location data and personal information being spread by this company and yet they'll
voluntarily hand over all sorts of private information about themselves on Facebook, you know.
-You are the product.
You're being sold.
-So if you're gonna be outraged by this, you might as well just not have an iPhone because that things tracking everything that you're doing.
I mean it sort of an all or nothing situation.
I don't have the solution, I just think it's kinda funny.
-Yeah, it's every baby step makes it okay a little bit more, right.
Okay, let's-- do you wanna talk about.
We have time for about one more.
-Let's talk about this story.
So we all
grew up in the 90's, right?
-I don't wanna date ourselves here but we all grew up in the 90's and any kid from the 90's still has nightmares about what I think, and I hope you guys agree--
-What nightmares do you have?
-is the scariest book ever written.
Now, do you guys have, from your childhood, do you guys have any idea what I'm talking about here?
-I mean-- Goosebumps was something.
-Goosebumps, but that wasn't scary though, right?
-Even Fear Street wasn't that scary.
-Well, some of them, you know, made you uncomfortable but, yeah--
-like all of the monster blood--
-Yeah, you know, Monster blood.
-You're scared of say cheese and die?
-Well, actually that masked one with the girl can't take off the mask.
That's your scared face.
You're scared shimmers.
What about you Ariel, do you remember like a really scary book from your childhood?
I'm trying to think of one.
-I say, I say aware from horror movies and then I'm just all about Disney and bunnies and rainbows, I don't do well with horror.
Let me throw this picture off on the screen.
-Are You Afraid of The Dark was another one.
That one is classic.
-Look at this picture and tell me what you think.
Do you remember this?
This didn't jog memories for you guys?
-Seems kinda familiar.
-So I feel like a lot of people are freaking out right now because this was like an image that haunted a lot of people's childhoods.
It's from Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark.
-I know what you're talking about.
-Do you remember?
Let me try to bring up a cover of that.
-That was something that everyone kinda win after during those book fairs in school.
-Yeah, I know exactly.
Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.
-So here we go.
This is what
all the books are look like and they're a collection anthology of short stories although--
-Oh, yeah, that book cover.
-all in by Alvin Schwartz.
This was the classic one that everyone remembers.
-And of the terrifying part was one of the stories where really disturbing stuff like about real people getting into creepy situations.
But then also, you know, wouldn't have been scary without the illustration that well along with it.
There are like these sort of like line drawings-- they're all illustrated by this one guy Stephen Gammell.
But, you know,
the bigger story here is that this morning deadline is reporting that CBS films, our parent company has accepted a pitch by the writers of the Saw, that movie Saw, which I haven't seen all of them.
I remember I've only seen one.
But it was pretty scary.
And those guys have penned a script for a movie adaptation of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark.
-So like all the horrible stuff in that book is gonna be just mashed up into one horrible thing.
It'll be basically be just a slide show of all these photos.
But these are creepy.
-I can't do horror movies, like I'm gonna stay away from this one I think.
-I don't know.
I just can't do the Saw.
I feel like there's enough horrible stuff in life.
I don't like, I don't get-- just [unk] like a rush out of it like--
-like the "oh, my gosh" moments.
I don't-- I'm more like tip-walking like, that was the last worst thing I've ever saw.
I need like ice cream and like a hug.
-You're right though, you know, as a kid you're more open to accepting scary stories 'cause you have no idea what the real world is about--
-which is arguably way scarier.
-You know what I mean, like the evening news is much scarier than anything in this book for sure.
I'm anxious to see what it'll look like especially if they could sort of take someone.
You're right, that book is a classic, so I'm surprised about it.
This is also the worst time of the year.
This is not the season to be watching scary movies, right?
You gotta wait until next fall for that stuff.
Actually, I do think we have time for one more and this one is kinda funny so I wanna end on for the humor--
-Yeah, please lift it up.
I don't wanna think about horrible clown, naughty faces.
-Sorry about that.
This one is good.
So Japanese phone carrier, Docomo.
They've launched a new service on a bunch of their smartphones and this service is called ancient mode.
-And Ancient mode basically translate to safety mode.
We have safety mode now and we're for-- mostly for driving safety mode, you know.
-Oh, we do?
I didn't know that.
-Well, I'm saying, if you hear about safety mode, it usually associates with getting you text forwarded until-- and blocked so you don't hear the alarm while you're driving.
And when people say safety mode, that's typically what it kinda goes to.
Well, in Japan, Safety mode means don't get hit by a car while you're texting.
And this feature is supposed to help people out with that and so--
-Like you mean walking and texting.
-Walking and texting at the same time.
It's a huge problem, not just in Japan, here too.
I have seen a lot of YouTube videos.
There was one YouTube video I saw a long time ago of this woman who is texting in a mall.
-I saw that one.
-You saw that one?
-Did she falls into--
-Yeah, there's this like security camera footage of her texting while she's walking and she walks into a fountain in the middle of the mall.
-I've seen a lot of things.
We have a broadcaster doing something in front of a court house and someone falls down the stairs or something or trips on something or, yeah-- we always see that.
-And it's painful to watch.
-It happens everywhere.
-Have you ever had any like texting and walking like running into the wall?
Yeah, I mean, not me personally.
Most of the times, I just walk into the wall without a phone with me or anything.
But yeah, I've seen like every time I ride my bike or, you know, every time I walk into the middle of like New York City, you're gonna see people
just walking with their faces down in the middle of traffic, pushing a stroller.
You know what I mean?
Like it's just scary you have to go and look around.
-The worse is when you're crossing the road and you assume like, "Oh, well, all the people are crossing-- so I'm just gonna keep walking with this mass group but the later he changed [unk] a lot.
It's so crazy like I'll just see mothers and, you know, just old people like basically darting out into the middle of the traffic not into the crosswalk, just like in between cars and here I am riding my bike and I'm lane-splitting and all of the sudden, someone just pops out in front of me.
just don't look.
It's-- sometimes I don't understand how people exist, how this whole--
-I always need a friend to like be my like lookout if I'm ever like, I need to text or I need to look up something while we're walking somewhere.
-I always like, you know, Steph, thanks.
Watch out stop, you know, like things 'cause I can't even walk on my own without the phone without tripping.
-Like I trip enough as it is.
-I have a condition where I can't multi-task.
-Maybe you need this Docomo phone.
-I think I would 'cause--
-This feature is pretty cool.
So basically it
takes the accelerometer into action, and it senses when you're walking using that accelerometer.
And if you're walking and accessing the messaging app at the same time, well then, it'll interrupt whatever you're doing on your smartphone with a big Window that says this, "Using your smartphone while walking is dangerous.
The phone senses you are walking.
Please stop." Which is most to help people, you know, basically not walking to fountains.
You think that will work?
-Or do you think people, you know, basically not walking to fountains.
-Do you think that'll work?
-Or do you think people will uses as like a snooze button on their alarm, right?
-Yeah, they'll still ignore it.
But, you know, anything to maybe help you like just maybe hit and stay on the side for a second.
-You know, and then take care of it.
-Do you do this Ariel?
Do you text and walk?
-Yeah, I do.
I do it a lot.
-We all guilty of that.
-And I think I'm pretty
good at it.
I don't run into people or anything like I look up frequently, you know.
-See there's actually a reason you say think you're pretty good at it.
-Now here in New York, we don't really drive to work every day.
-But I had an-- I know that people, when I grew up in Florida, always say that I'm on control when you have that texted and driving, you know--
-Let's take it to the other step.
When you're walking you can immediately stop but you can't always do that with the car and there's other people.
-You're not killing anybody they're walking.
But, I was talking with the psychologist once for a story saying that because nothing happens to you, for so long when you do an action, whatever that action is,
you feel like you are in control and it's okay.
Even if that action is not looking at the road for 10 seconds and look you back up.
But you go, "I got this one is--
-You know, arrogant [unk].
-Like we're okay.
And so it causes a false sense of confidence.
-Yeah, it's a false sense of confidence and you see a lot of people when they commute, 'cause I look down into a stop light where people are honky 'cause you didn't just keep going, first of all.
-you know, I'm glad it's illegal
here in New York.
-And I hope every state eventually makes it against the law to encourage the people when naturally you can't help it.
It's programmed in you.
You will be stupid and you will have this false sense of confidence 'cause you did it once or twice.
-And you keep doing it.
-driving while texting and, obviously driving while calling is illegal in California too.
But have a lot of idiot friends that instead of texting with their hand up, now they're just paranoid about cops and so they'll keep their phone on their lap while driving--
-Which is even worst.
-at the same time.
-Yeah, yeah totally.
-Just to keep it out of sight of cops,
which is way more dangerous because that increases the distance that you're eyes aren't looking out in the front of the--
-Then we need voice activation apps--
-because it's not gonna-- 'cause anything like this is gonna stop people.
Maybe these safety apps, you know.
Just shut it off.
So my friends actually just do this while they're driving like they'll hold it up like in front of the--
-So you could see at one eye.
So you'll have like equal vision of both the screen--
-Your reaction time is still less.
Your reaction is still less.
Things can happen into seconds.
Just be careful.
I just feel like I had to say every time I texting and walking but obviously, there's other distractions too.
Well, there's a lot of distractions in New York.
Never been in the New York in the summer time.
-It's definitely hard to do anything without kind of looking around.
For men and women, I'm just saying.
For men and women, there's a lot to look at.
-Yeah, there is.
-Am I right?
Don't make me feel like a weirdo you guys.
I agree with you on everything.
-I can see people walk around shirtless.
-Okay, I guess we should end
on that one.
-That's gonna do it for us.
Thank you so much for filling in.
-Thanks for having me here.
It's been fun.
-It's been a collection of really excellent shows in my opinion.
-All of them are good but they're great when you're on Bridget, so I appreciate that.
Go and follow Bridget on Twitter.
You can follow the 404 @The404.
You can follow Ariel at @REL--
-just those three letters, right?
-And then I'm @malusbrutus.
You could do that, follow 404
on Reddit, Facebook, all that stuff.
We're very connected.
-And let us know if you guys have any ideas for Yuletide episodes and things like that, a couple of programming notes before we wrap up the show.
Next week it's gonna be really busy.
We gotta shoot a bunch of those Yuletide episodes.
-And we've actually gone a lot of suggestions on what we should talk about, so thanks a lot for that.
Ariel, I had a good submission that I wanted to run by you.
What is it?
-Someone-- I forgot his name, though.
I should have looked that up.
-But someone recommended that we do a studio
tour for one of the Yuletide episodes.
That would be cool.
-'Cause we sort of did that during the Halloween episode.
-Show at the background and stuff.
-But there's so much more to this studio like your studio right next to us.
-And a lot of sets here.
There's the Last.
FM set right here.
-Oh, you know, also that the one we did the tour, that didn't air, right?
Didn't we have a problem with-- yeah, so we owe everyone a tour, so we definitely have to do that.
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's a great idea.
So we'll do that and then we were thinking about maybe interviewing each other for an episode, you know, like me, Ariel and Jeff,
talking about each other's personal lives, and then maybe a separate episode that will wrap up the year 2013 movies, music and technology, so that sort of the tentative plan 3 to 4 episodes that will roll out during the holiday.
And then more programming notes.
Next week, we got a couple of good guests, Jill Schlesinger from Money Watch.
-She's gonna be coming back on the show Tuesday.
So tune in for that.
-She has a bucket of knowledge.
Yeah, every time I learn so much and then forget it after she leaves, [unk] taking
But next Friday we have Alex Winter coming on the show.
[unk] was, of course in Bill and Ted.
-But he's also a prominent filmmaker as well.
We had him on the show talking about a Napster documentary that got put out and it's actually on NetFlix right now.
It's called downloaded, I highly recommended it.
-Which I got at this weekend.
-Yeah, it sort of the story about how Napster came about.
But he has a new documentary about Bitcoins and we love Bitcoins.
There's so much going on and the price is constantly fluctuating.
There's a lot of like drama
surrounding Bitcoins with murder and things like that.
-So there's a lot to talk to him about.
He's coming on the show next Friday.
It's gonna be really fun.
-Gotta check in for that.
And then after that-- I think that's it for me.
I'm actually gone next week or the week after that.
-So next week will be my last week of episodes and then we're out until CES.
-Of course, Bridget will be at CES as well.
-We'll catch her there.
But Jeff is back next week so you won't see Bridget but you can check her out on CNET Update every
Yup, I'll also have some shows right around New Year before CES to get everyone geared up for it.
You're the hardest working woman in the office.
All right guys--
-There are not many women in the office.
-There aren't that many but of the two you are arguably hard worker woman.
-I'll take it.
I don't think so though.
Well, have a great weekend guys.
We'll see you next week.
I'm Justin Yu.
-I'm Bridget Carey.
-I'm Ariel NuÃ±ez.
-It's The 404.
It's high-tech, it's
Thanks again for tuning in.
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