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Ep. 1366: Won't someone think of the routers!?The Wikileaks war is escalating and it's threatening to go all "War Games" on us. 4Chan's forces, the Anonymous group, are DDoS-ing the heck out of sites like PayPayl, MasterCard, and anyone who bows to "government pressure." Meanwhile, secret forces...
This Wednesday December 8 when you -- I did -- compress all I'm hearing this and have Hollywood -- in a buzz out loud in a podcast of indeterminate length. It's episode thirteen 158. Welcome back to in the week -- week -- I think you could be here that'll launch time of year with awesome. Our. Low here in my car -- not you'll see more wheels log -- regularly deals mystery little are active and enjoy world beyond -- after six months of not driving it was kind of weird getting back to my -- like it or Alpine news via. They were taken -- motorcyclist left and right -- out of left and right -- like -- been born eighth 2000 miles on here night. A right now -- will do Lodi Chrome hang over right it yet so we yesterday we attempted to -- the crew news while it was happening but frankly. How are they long drawn out frequently confusing and not particularly -- the point presentation. And I don't wanna I only own one it called its little -- it was a really. The thing is they company announced the three things they're gonna talk about right right up the top remember that those dollar -- that it took an hour to even talk about what little. He played an eight month compared to the Blackberry announcement recently at. It's got through that -- tune up our knowledge now. Yeah yeah -- For hours and don't. -- little bit better I worse though like diva every time there's a live presentation are key notre -- and like. Take it off and get it on it here's what the actual need is now we're doing it Q yes -- is way faster and a lot more people using it. The Chrome web store is open for business -- now you can have apps that are -- the bad thing but again if you want and yet not I do you usually legitimate. And -- download Chrome OS. And announced a sort of a laptop beta tester program where they going to be they announced the CR 48. The first -- my laptop and people can try out and also and its -- laptops will be shipping. In spring one in spring of 211 we can expect as a human like march 30 for early users edit -- -- -- and. Militants in is that this -- 46 of the development laptop that they're going to be releasing on it has three G built in it's in -- -- with -- with Verizon. The -- -- technology team that it was in you know that we know that we're gonna start -- those of laptops but -- from what I can gather right now the market. It's the only -- that hasn't integrated into the board. Yeah there yeah there are some actually to buy some netbooks. -- that matter all candidates subsidized by carriers but this is -- -- I'd like -- not like Stan I guess it's a standalone yeah exactly in the Indian no contract president -- that it was going to be no contract deal they've got some partnership with red -- that is very interest in. Fill it back it up a little bit we don't need to -- that problem and micro web store. It basically it lets you download web apps I think Brian Tong has it up on -- -- there. -- some of them are paid apps like games. But some of them are just out versions of web site like YouTube and I'm not gonna lie I sat there yesterday like. -- But there then -- you've got some big names in here I mean I like PA with Tiger Woods PGA tour right and for me yet -- games -- donors an ambulance that are also -- I think -- any -- -- -- -- New York Times web when he called -- and I just pulled built up. Really pull it yet -- -- look at the front and center on the pacemaker for making bookmarks for you. And again. Though it's. The thing about it is that the only when the problem with you know it's the first -- of these apps that are built in the browser right now obviously when everyone's first making them they're gonna do. -- -- make it quick and dirty so a lot of them that are very just a website essentially that's a little cleaner and a tab doesn't isn't gonna do it for us. What I don't understand it is -- -- put this on Twitter yesterday that the question to the followers like it our web apps a failure of web development technologies because. Are there are times when we really don't need an app I mean why we needed to -- -- -- it is it runs in a browser -- -- -- -- it's -- it's -- features. But that -- can't you use html or flash or eggs or or Ajax here's the -- existing web technologies. To build a website that doesn't -- things like I guess I'm not sure what the benefit of the app part it. And every case -- Allegheny fantastic stuff and html five and -- the Wiki hood I think is a great example there are so many great examples on the at the apps store the Chrome web store if you will. The Cisco and play with it but. I agree with you isn't this what the rim guys that -- -- that you. Smartphone apps are just are just like our. I'm gonna pass and everything's gonna be on the web anyway it's all you really need on the Smartphone -- -- -- let us funny to the came from Nokia with their me using browser. But that's what I -- -- From from the people who are building a browser based OS that they would is that all you need the browser and -- -- in opting in and and then we have the and then this cynical part wants to -- while the that they can. Get a cut. Right but that now they're saying on and -- the web store the web app store is nonprofit. Taking was taken what cards -- on this non profit at you Mikey can put in some Google labs. You can't the thing about is like you could put Goliath seem like the value website and -- out and also yeah exactly and also when you look at the experience right okay -- jump in and apps you'd think okay they just want to stay in the Chrome browser. Because of the potential of what their what their money makers who lives but you're not even your really not even embark bombarded with that when you're going -- these different apps. At least the ones that are there right now they're not seem to -- lines. The field that is in this day and age you can indeed -- app store to lake Elmo but our art our platform has an app -- -- that you can get cool -- with their platform a web browser and web store to say oh you can get cool stuff. And it's Google embracing something that they already know well and the -- And it's further fracturing the connected experience like I'm not even referring to it as the web experience anymore and I am trying -- attempting to point and propagate the -- the connected experience because. The it is moving more and more out of the web and they're trying to say we want to own your connected experience everyone is trying to say that right -- Apple wants to own it because -- your. Through the Apple app store and ask them and Google wants to own it because they want -- -- in their ecosystem all the time and including. The browser Writely does is -- if anything of fairly cynical attempt to drive you into the browser because none of the stuff runs anywhere micron. Write it well that's the thing is the browser just -- to be html and see if -- and all the -- jobs scripts up viewer and is in Firefox that is while. So I don't see why any of these apps have to necessarily be prone specific you know ninety go to would want insight on Firefox I think Intel as a developer -- cricket time yet to build this thing. Like I had to build a -- run into Firefox Chrome viewer and that I mean it's just -- it and rare white can be a damn what I know I think if it's done well little actually make the web a better place for people using all sorts of browsers you know because it just spurs. Better website development where the web such -- more like apps -- -- you'd say twitter.com -- -- -- an -- Now. Get in it that's let me know it would if they were building website yeah and it should. But that is totally the way it should you could build an -- as awesome linkages that you build as all the many web site if I want. As you want it to be but instead -- developers they're gonna maybe start building. Chrome might not -- I don't understand why do we do that -- -- -- sounds like they can just take their existing -- about and dislike pop it -- from store and say -- take -- -- -- will when you're talking about how could you import these apps and other browsers raked in an article just about how they're really you know. The web store is a -- for developers but users us or have to change and adapt our behavior some of these apps -- can be potentially imported into Firefox. -- that that's what they're hoping to is also. Maybe you know they want this is starting I don't know if they want to -- exactly -- it -- over to Firefox I just don't see the general behavior of users getting this or really trying to. Both for food I think has the pithy summaries so far in the chat rooms and web apps are web site where you don't believe me exactly and you never -- -- -- Chrome. -- never have to leave the -- They have yet if it was the Google web store rather than the Chrome web store I think we have a different opinion of this is an implies like -- -- -- -- -- if we're all browsers that they yeah and and even then -- would -- thing and a understandably needed. An app that is site that is the map instead -- -- I think that it still confusing but. It might make more -- those -- -- in the user interface is the saint it's a mouse and keyboard pattern yeah so that's why there's no to me there's no advantage. To do you don't make a better site then yes I don't make an -- and -- pending. Twitter.com is the tab. Yeah and and a news. I thought let's get a laptop and the CR 48 the very first Chrome OS laptop that does not obviously and mainstream laptop and all but they do have. Beta tester program you can actually sign up to try to get it -- you may think it's a twelve point one inch screen a full size keyboard and -- -- -- That Verizon three G chip. Dual band Wi-Fi. And then eight hours of active within hours of stand by a webcam and flash storage it is and they are really banking on Chrome my thinking running on solid state drive I'd be surprised if those. It turns tempting machine that we see in Q1 let's pianists -- -- cute yeah yeah yeah. Are not solid state -- -- 2011 and you've gotta figure every brand is gonna have a featured celled -- atop a pressure you know everything better. Nobody had hidden there has got some -- three G chips that's for Verizon in the US -- you can use any carrier one international is the way they -- hey you know how to get my hands on one of these and elegantly go around you can sign up for this pretty easy to sign up for the beta tester program they say it's not an -- an apartment like a beta in May be even an alpha. But they are -- that when they question they were saying supplies were limited now it looks like did -- times is reporting that invent -- shifted shipped 60000. -- notebooks though those being and I assume. Need a testament this year -- So that. If -- if you're brave -- -- planet -- -- think you're pretty you are and yet why we knew that. Thousand and you know you might get -- better hurry up the sign up now. Let's move onto Wiki -- updates. Loud do it okay the Wiki leaks -- -- war is just it's going nuclear at this point that this is a it's starting to really become a cyberpunk novel. It is. I love that it surely that can't really even been written all over I want him to figure in China's actions the whole thing resident I'll -- right though the and now -- PayPal MasterCard visa everybody all the sudden shut -- -- -- learn in the lesson regularly they say you know you cannot donate money we will not process payments to at least through our site and then now. -- -- The four Chan whole worried that. Are represented by a group calling itself an -- a spokesman for the group calling himself total -- it right. And this is for the group anonymous that they they just like to hang around for -- unnecessarily affiliated you know officially in the back to just an anarchist group but they've got this thing called. Operation payback and it's been going on -- last like two and a half months. You remember -- they started taking down like BR YA. Via groups that work longer than that -- they targeted Scientology's website a couple of years ago actually right ideology but but but recently it's become like a dubbed critical operation -- -- -- -- an official higher -- channel -- using this thing called L a YC which stands for the low orbiting. -- on -- and which is like some software that allows people to do distributed denial of service attacks you know. -- -- -- -- -- you can totally get into some fun -- inside and then Anand. They tried to take down PayPal but it didn't it wasn't a certain PayPal is able to handle that yeah -- -- domestic. They got some server but they have my managed to partially freed the MasterCard web -- then they took down at Swiss banking site. That had rejected payments a PayPal and they are saying cold -- Is quoted as saying that any website that vowing down to government pressure. Is -- target and we'll see them take on Amazon and -- want. Guess -- -- the target. The that the group themselves and on this there there sites out there on site was actually taken -- -- by an unknown source silicon they've -- cyber plot that's the day. -- -- It is seriously insane like now it's -- the DD OS. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Once the botnet involved this thing is Indian but I'm thinking not funny the poor router casualties along the way it's. -- in the all the dead soldier's letter about the router so what about the routers and turned on my background c'mon somebody think of that won't somebody think of the -- causes him flustered -- -- peering agreements and -- as he keys and get to that well the -- but -- could recognize it when we come back who is going to let you. Be tracked by advertisers got in and and the answer may surprise. Hollywood and practically inviting you to join us for the 2010 edition of cnet's holiday help desk that happens every Monday at 1 PM Pacific 4 PM eastern starting November 22. It's where we make you look like a brilliant tech gift giver as we take your live calls and we feel your emails in fact when. Send us an email right now -- holiday helped -- at cnet.com and along with the rest of cnet's editors will point you to the right product at the right right. Holiday help desk Mondays at 1 PM Pacific time starting November -- seconds at cnet.com slash live. I welcome back to buzz out loud. The web browser that's gonna be -- enough -- all. Who knows they're really looking out for you but Internet Explorer nine is gonna protect web users like yourself from being tracked. The next gen web browser will -- released early candidate next here and included a basically ability to prevent your activity from being tracked. Wouldn't it will actually have the long awaited do not track feature which now before you -- like. Remember from last year I think they were going to introduce it and they took it out. As a result -- advertiser pressure and now they've now that the FTC though it's certainly -- around their acting for browser vendors to include. This do not track button. That mainly I think because there's been so much read the revelation about how much information can be collected about you and is being amassed in these sort of. Anti database right -- -- not just cookies anymore they could go way beyond Oklahoma awareness of like you know what advertisers dealing. People throwing up all their activity through social networks it's actually almost like a different -- feature to the general consumer -- the -- All this is a browser that might want to actually protect -- now -- we have all this hype. And all these concerns about what's actually -- out there but if I mean I almost wonder if this is more like little marketing thing you know to them. Kosher you know -- -- to some extent it is now it's interesting because the couple months ago Mozilla said that it was not going to include. I do not track button. There were reports that it was under pressure from ad industry executives and -- certainly when it pulled the do not -- -- last time. Then you know yes we got so much blowback from advertisers that we decided not to do it what Mozilla saying though it -- to the Wall Street Journal that begins capital because of pressure. No but that they're concerned that it would force advertisers -- even sneak your techniques. And could slow down the performance of some of that both of -- that Peter I'm about content yet they're gonna they gonna come up with the technique. Yeah Laird got a provider. -- is always had this built in fact I remember five years ago this was like you know my measure against. You know obtrusive advertising was to set. Use the feature in Firefox vs oh hey you're loading this website -- you know news.com well we're not gonna load any images or other things from sites that are not news.com and you do that it takes care of 90% of -- -- In today's web which you know -- embedded FaceBook -- comments on blogs and stuff like that he do that it doesn't really work because it's all intertwined now. An and it -- the page -- beyond what you can handle and you want it to be broken. So -- this thing about this is that they're using BC like this masterly threat a protection list that -- that submitted new essentially from like organizations that. Give you lists of like you know website that are demanding certain type of information they're not gonna break down you can. Opt in -- which site you wanna block from preventing you from the track boom so you have to maintain its still to a certain degree. But you -- have that option there. At which seems okay right that you could be in control yeah without necessarily -- -- sitting there wondering why your page will load Yahoo! mail without thanking god experience and a lot better than using no script as if if that's frustrating experience dancers know not that that's -- territories and at and at some point that you're -- -- various ad blockers and -- of third party scripting -- -- confinement. You know we get email all the time there like your video player and your site -- -- -- know -- -- -- -- -- I mean that any time you try to -- to technological solution like this you run the reactive of unintended consequences and breaking pages and I think that. You know that that that would certainly happen Mozilla has a point which is that that would certainly happen if they rolled out some sort of large scale you know -- tracking Internet banking. -- do you think -- a good thing I appreciate it yet. My child is going to be super fired up about the next -- -- is that Netflix has signed a new deal it -- -- -- -- -- you can now -- streaming TV shows from the Disney Channel and actually grown ups are part about the view AB CTV. This is this this also now yes it was -- yesterday where there's yet both stepped down recently from Netflix Barry McCarthy. With. A lot of you know and was -- UBS's investor conference. A lot like cable operators content providers their time -- how Netflix has momentum is going to slow right because. Now that it's become such a big player in this market. But alike will the content providers control what they get to Netflix they're gonna stop. Giving them all you know all of their good programming content and then today -- like build you have got Disney and ABC. After Alex we have Grey's Anatomy Powell I feel -- -- I'll have because CEO. Reed Hastings you're good at anything -- -- I I think bay in there honoring there on a big big -- it's also. Interestingly potentially -- bad news for Hulu. Which is there has been saying you know all along has had sort of mimics whose -- -- that -- the deal. ABC it now is pretty much everywhere -- Oliver right and ABC I think has been the one doing right for -- long time to in terms of network streaming. Because they were the first ones to put Apple episode streaming on their own site. They -- they made the deal with Hulu they've made a deal with Netflix they have made to deal with iTunes like ABC is saying yes we're everywhere and we want to -- Yeah yeah this is definitely the head to head battle they are both exactly 799 and there there the only two in the camp that I am really looking at Lilith and Hulu plus Apple and I'm like yeah yeah and and others -- -- but now. The problem though is right with all the content rights and -- people are experiences over Hulu plus is okay sure you're gonna get certain shows from ABC. But which ones are you to get what service bank at this point has -- -- okay no cable but sixteen dollars month for both. Yeah maybe in that actually economy I don't think I'm probably going to do -- to the economic -- immediately on solutions today and once again assuming that you don't care about it yet. -- sports. Eight Antonia over the top and over the air it's an OTT a TA currently. Yet the the question is you know what service -- what Boxee -- box here is an Apple TV you roku and you do in the Netflix and Hulu plus over the top is definitely still bury it way harder than it needs to be like if -- Henry David Katzmaier with little plug for and that on -- on the group like has been doing -- diary of a chord pattern in a pattern. And it is seriously like. I don't know but have to be that daunting but it's like the most daunting thing you'll ever read as he goes through and talk about the different services they can and active men and -- Madden -- And also just mean part of the money -- -- it depends how are you live like you think installing an intent on Israel that because where it lives -- the signal in yeah -- out. You can you can see through that blog that that night he just off the ground. How bad. And on and his wife is like you are particularly -- it. But that's about it if we're not there yet but its whereabouts on the -- table exactly where again we're -- -- throughout again way closer to commercial spacecraft the eight acts. Rocket the first. Private eighth launch and they did actually make up the ground at least -- was like you are -- better than -- -- -- and a lot today. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Whatever happens deleted -- three months that I mean noticeably smaller in them not to go and -- any people on there. But steel but now it's cute though the little it's as article points -- that it squeak -- 157 seats. 735000. Pounds -- regular rocket. -- think you like the U per person and I meant that the content. So cool anyway it is it that the capsule company named -- -- They unmanned demonstration mission wants to prevent -- is able to deliver crew and cargo to the International Space Station I -- everything excellent app that like. Past you have a bad ethnic him. -- -- The hope is that after the retirement of the shuttle program that dragon would be able able to and crew and cargo to the -- on top of falcon nine rocket and if they the ability to privatize Canada. The International Space Station taxi service which is what a lot of RR settlement -- it's gonna be it's gonna be president recipes. Led billboard it's -- -- -- the -- night of pilgrims and you could still that you wanna pay for. But also like from a constant place each cell costs. Despite cost about a billion dollars. And so far with space next -- -- -- the certificate you know it's the -- cut down costs and commercialized Ricardo. It's got its differently yes it's from our dependency can one of those things get on the space station and the fact that is a successful -- of the pretty big deal because had it not and it would have been a big blow to privatize. Them. Good job -- Good job thing. Spam and asked them our own yet another hit on -- and so prepared -- high. It would would you be doing this one I'm so excited you gotta think that the stability and -- city in civilization only that now I can get on a bike. Any bill debuted on -- but -- can quickly became a thing of best social game launched. And learn and it -- in a whopping 290. -- -- -- users on at the very first. How -- frontier bill. -- -- -- So they took frontier will change -- the bit maps and the thing about frontier Miller playing violent Primedia. It's like you know -- -- the thing about it is like half of the US's kind of like frontier Villeneuve is it wanna play that tried to -- don't feel like I died of dysentery. A trend towards the river if they more than -- -- haven't really at night. You -- seven million city built homes have been built on a 500000 Acre is and I'm. Millions assesses the road and add me is this coming from the company that has thirteen hundred employees that you -- now. -- -- -- In cash pirating Apple game. You gotta figure that EA is pissed that they just did decide to re release of the city -- Now that's all the iPad -- -- -- an old right now the bottom -- -- EA get up -- five and a quarter inch floppies and they're making it active practically gave Iran T visiting is working with scrabble game. I remembered that they acquire -- words with friends and they. Right now -- LA which we never heard of now it's getting its debt and equalizing it with friends and if -- -- and if I have like. At job. I don't know wouldn't you like that it deflated thing Bob's public I would totally plays -- but I know of yet sugardaddies uses I don't think up an online and doing that -- -- no known I think -- -- Anyway. -- Spot but yes. What Iranian does that talking about that because the -- stateside and -- because we're done with that -- not today all now. Daniel X product by its founder and CEO. Says he cannot commit to a launch -- respond by USA we can almost certainly assume that it will not make it here for the holiday season. It is by the way that popular European music service that offers -- streaming songs in addition to a subscription offering and everybody wants appearance never gonna come here and yet we keep telling you. About how long it's going to continue to take apart and you know late in the more than I care about that modify I just -- and the more that you understand how labels. Or so in Florida I don't see it coming it's never gonna I don't think it's gonna come -- Talladega. -- -- really -- bent out of I don't like all the time at least the US at least for the US the UK it's -- to buy because they were able to lockdown agreements. I would like to -- with ball that well I -- -- it anymore imagine that sponsored the country. Got that the -- tunnel -- -- bright he just user -- and -- set it up to the the Unix server and and you put your tunnels leave port port -- your money converted over some euros and addicts. At a virtual private server -- Germany. I think it's never gonna -- affected if -- View an offline US that fits all you have to do yeah. They're announcing -- hard. The idea as you know I've got the last time understanding that is the last time I'm talking about -- -- and when he can't until it's pinpointed yet but never made the prediction. Show where I think spot -- -- not uncommon -- not -- -- Amazon did as expected announced its Amazon web store the Kindle for nine Webster Kindle for web. By announcing that not only can users republic and the gravity can often felt Kindle books. From your own website and you Google relatively little widget that -- could put your blogs individual people just -- it up a little direct them directly to the left or. -- at a book and web page and nifty. Taken it you can embed map into her book chapters and grey yeah yeah. I mean dumping -- some public domain books and can now. Yet again -- that these these are legitimate and great for book clubs you know -- -- -- innovation. They really do you get -- little book club website and then embed the little widget to by the book every time you avenue. -- certainly should get upon them Internet users can also rent Kindle serves of their -- as we said start telling the Kindle -- and and I think you know combined maybe it would be if you published your own and in that the reader. One thing. They go after them and then right click hits -- The Japanese Venus probe that was -- -- thinking to third punch through the Venus atmosphere. I have failed in its mission to enter into orbit around the had actually hot planet. This that they were company -- here on Monday. At the 300 million dollar project and they failed and better left in seven years. Gasoline and -- will. Basically there's not enough gas for it to come to -- complete stop. To make another attempt to enter the orbit of Venus though it's as if it. Fly on its own in the bill they'll wait for it. Mom when. Wow. Until the load it right -- back at the -- via. Oh yeah that's my -- isn't it. And readies for its I'm a little slow to update it like so bummed about orbit. -- that users are the hungry for mobile data study says. What is does research it or read our yes so yeah they said that. For example Android -- corporate users they scored the highest in both uplink -- volume and downlink data. Alex the simply -- users typically upload a 126%. More data. An iPhone three G users -- it didn't compare to iPhone for users but you've got imagine it's probably about the same realistically. They did -- is the the iPhone three G as a normalized managed smart to include iPhone four. Data basically -- -- the Blackberry Bold nexus wanna -- desire and so the thing is the hardware isn't really that difference night. A you know an iPhone four and some of -- new Samsung sexy and -- -- -- that that got really -- cameras so there's no. Reason why one would be uploading technically why one would be uploading more did in the other I think its apologists -- user thing I mean -- really the everybody found -- -- it's totally geek phone. -- -- about -- also even like -- settle them turn. Little things with the -- platform how carriers are more willing to let them stream more content yeah like -- you can use Skype over VoIP with Verizon. -- you can do whatever the video conferencing over three G networks more you're more likely to -- more accessible over like Verizon and sprint than it is on the -- -- -- -- and as the Android. Places in the other thing hasn't seen this and calls per subscriber had stayed roughly the same suggesting that. Not surprisingly the new breed of Smartphone subscribers use their devices first and foremost for data consumption. Rather than for -- -- people still do that. That's because their tones remember those Windows 7 phone seven launch. Well check out you know Microsoft. Corporate vice president and programming director of windows phone program management. -- -- Yeah I'm that guy. -- Yesterday he was having -- competition brought -- -- -- Walt Mossberg over at the and if you wanna talk about the numbers new sales figures kind of declined comment. Again. At a Microsoft Earthlink thanks I will always plays along came -- to be look at that that spot once you know -- -- The idea when we're gonna on the market and the windows phone seven games and going on since you know windows for pen computing gap and -- Having some analysts use the a steep uphill climb for windows phone seven pounds I think that's I think that's literally have to come up to parity soon. But right now and we don't actually know that means we just know the right now. -- responded -- -- -- be -- and copy pays an -- what lawsuit just asking -- the canyons that. Verizon's three G network apparently went down nationwide briefly or has been spotty throughout today it sounds like -- parts of the country are reporting that their three G service has -- stored. It's not certain whether all the troubles have. Been ironed out -- you think that your phone is bailing. It actually probably. -- -- your signal like surprisingly enough it's the network -- how -- do that but. Hey. There's in the middle but all where diet -- argued that -- -- -- bathroom. All via local organizer -- -- over the bunker -- the markets that it back. I -- -- -- for today quickly let's talk about them gadgets. Online -- this streaming gaming company that just seems to do -- all they're gonna need like every -- in the past week has released an iPad app. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You can watch other people -- -- Beaulieu it and sell it on live but. Viewer. Who. That's fun and other people do what I wanna do and I don't know I -- -- hate so much I love. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It really depends on the game. I would not unsympathetic. Then -- -- did -- by a professional I don't know -- -- -- pretty funny though that like -- a full line as they point out at to -- That Apple line out from -- would be credible you can play control stream and indirectly on your iPad node -- Hubert will. I don't know though I mean how well. Long would you -- like the dock and watch TV beaches like honestly like I -- Iowa stock value judgment are the dark after an event. Okay so the thing is that it -- -- doesn't have contracts unless there's an outside event in its console games right now and also. A you're not -- really be able to play console game and an iPad very well well this -- -- That this is also tied into their social -- -- it's not just a viewer but you can use it's like you -- talk to your friends on the service -- imagine if you're playing it like. On live on your TV you've got that ten foot experience for the -- -- -- your iPad on your lap and you can keep chat with your friends as you. Frag them or whatever why don't -- just want to just chat with them directly for the game Yang turned them. Hey that's NN -- edited either gonna get it now Bonita fired up -- -- online I gotta try out until I guess my whole life death and I do like though -- hello packet and added by the way. Not -- -- And -- it. We're -- view indeed if I gave us an update McCarron the dragon capital have splashed down in the Pacific Ocean mission's success. Bloom -- dragon. You so let's do some sad news -- post news. Scientists coming out of the woodwork cannot wait to. NASA's study about arsenic based life. Not only. Was that did we find the study itself to be it needed a bullet down until that want you -- -- that these analysts -- there -- about optimism that. Incorporated means the secondary DNA kind of new thing. Well. Slate has published a pretty brutal article citing may -- micro biologist well respected -- Saying that the NASA backed study is seriously flawed the paper should never have been published. The finding could be based on something as simple as a horse and has port sample washing to remove possibly contaminated tell me that is just a dirty back street because as -- -- -- a dirty air dirty Petrie dexterity arsenic bacteria and they just like the frontier iPhone dirty dirty Petrie is very bad. Jon -- -- UC Davis I suspect that NASA may be so desperate for a positive story that they didn't look for any serious advice from DNA or even microbiology people. Yikes how. And and they also mentioned how it reminded them and another press conference the NASA held a 96. Where they unveiled a meteorite from Mars -- they said was -- there were microscopic fossils and it. And and a number of critics of that time condemned the reports because they were claims that past that have backed up. I mean you have to admit. NASA did that. Pump up this press conference following right where -- they where we were freaked out by deftly organized and I know they -- -- clearly -- trying to get as much attention as possible to -- that whole cryptic -- an after morality finding that will impact a search for evidence of extraterrestrial life I talked about click or right and then it. For this -- company for them to be saying this now it is like the science is bad they were trying to get attention tentatively old man now don't give -- -- Nobody in this room is gonna pretend to understand science. But -- And peer review is -- super important part of the scientific process. But all of the a lot of these -- about this -- -- like they didn't get the peer review and they didn't come and talk to the people who could've helped them understand and government more. Anyway it. With the nonstop publicity about it right I'm assuming NASA's losses the only -- -- can address this there's gonna be like that though -- notes from their news. And own. -- let -- worse is if double. Another thing like methods so far in -- so far has not responded exactly cricket like we have arsenic bacteria but again. Half. Though. But -- -- at. Much like spot by. Arsenic based microbes -- done for Wellington let's just turn that frown upside you know it okay yeah I'd really. George Lucas. Amazing filmmaker -- bringing you the likes of jar jar banks. That's. Are thank goodness I -- Java that look like a banana slug in George Lucas wants to resuscitate dead actors. Using computers them out of it gets any better or worse than this but -- if you want to try to acquire the rights the film rights of the likenesses of dead. Actors. To the -- them possibly -- -- resurrect them virtually for. Upcoming movie if -- can redo ocean's eleven get the rat pack back ego you're left out can expect to do you want though. -- -- Now the -- potentially tapered at serving stuff you know -- the -- -- believe they recently talked about in the you know the third Batman that's coming out. But they were gonna potentially use old footage are actually CG Heath -- face. I had heard about two to involvement in the seem to kind of bridge the series much like at the scarecrow in the Dark Knight to bridge from one to two -- on its at least have some sort of a cameo. Still I don't trust George lucas'. CG chops and everything that I've seen -- the passes dole give him the right. And now a British British funnyman -- Smith is apparently -- -- -- Lucas told the sun known. Threat you know consider the source this -- the tablet -- -- fun. But says that he plans to use computer -- agreed to show that actors on Andy's why -- -- I mean this is totally out George Lucas valley -- -- is all about creating a completely virtual world. To tell that story like it all got the opening apparently -- -- -- though thank you habit from Pennsylvania -- that the Internet and the -- said look at them denied the story. They -- it's not happening. Because as part -- is concerned we're still in the uncanny valley that's the looks like real person has no soul neo what about Jeff Bridges face in -- trunk. -- the young ones -- the -- -- granite Fiji that looked at that look pretty impressive I have to admit it was like back you know December 17 and there. Available December 68 -- cool thing. -- -- you know guys in December 17. 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Supposedly in a comet to my friend it was for a movie site. However -- the pages that never posted -- that thinking it was an error on my and I kept trying to riposte that ended up with the ward team. That my comment was flagged as spam. I found to be very annoyed and a bit if she I'm not pleased that -- -- is taking control what can't you cannot be said heavily in Massachusetts. It's not that interesting until we had other emails we did have other -- suspect that seems like it's it's a quiet storm it's and that we're gonna make -- -- network video or images. -- news than tech into the combat is like. -- -- -- -- -- Send us your email address earth and is your ear and out what Daniel I've had an eight -- liner you know Google and the Google thought when I actually get video portal emailed the boom. 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A well and a leader of the tags -- right -- and I think the main reason like Google won't its own Chrome is that it can run -- -- X 86 and arm architectures unlike Android. The -- come -- -- and the abundant -- atom netbooks and small computers as opposed to waiting for the ever elusive Nvidia tegra chips. I can see in my crystal ball that Chrome is Google's answer to windows Android is for -- arm and will grow to cover tablet. Of course that Google does does that Chrome and only then -- just went to hidden. I gotta admit though thank -- I feel like that is seriously -- first explanation I have gotten including. From Eric Schmidt when I asked him directly. As to why they would have continued to pursue it to us that their -- -- -- Eric enrichment. But there explicit about that he just like we think -- because the people can build on -- and and it is written. People make it what they need to be announced again it can't make Android into that's -- -- -- -- amendment and with though like. 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