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Ep. 1364: It's not funny, it's artWe're stealing lines from "Love, Actually" today, because Natali can quote it by heart when it's super a propos to a guy very disturbingly embedding a camera in the back of his own head. Ew. But hey, it's art! Also, Twitter says it's not suppressing Wikileaks...
Today -- Monday December 6 when -- -- and -- Gonzales. I'm Brian -- I'm Natalie -- I am Hollywood bucket of buzz out loud to -- podcasts and indiscriminately that episode thirteen 64 Brian Tong is we hope. On an airplane or at least was on an airplane until the wee hours of the night. Ago -- -- stack and in the winter travel weather situation over knocked on the rumors yet no not -- -- know he's not. I can't get you started -- on earth not. -- -- young nor are beautiful view listener viewers. Nothing funny about that. -- You'll be back tomorrow and -- and will not. I will not ever be back possibly all the dead tomorrow that I'm actually here and the act which is it to a different thing if your playlist into the and audio that -- is right here and I am IRL is this -- -- In studio -- in the baby. Yes for the good in it that you first time traveling here and the name. Welcome well -- be here and MB. Sitting close to the laptop instead of away because -- and why an invented any kind of like keyboard for pregnant women naked and it's really -- -- carve out it. Slide right over it like that wouldn't grounds that -- -- -- to that and on the -- now brightens as lean back enough look at an I've wanted to be an of the mothers who has like a million dollar idea like that like the -- the -- copy your link via you know when it's high -- something it's not too late and I don't -- put our heads together -- and -- I'd -- Pompano -- hitting the gaming industry is really the least innovative space in any kind of product. Fleeing and bouncy -- like why don't think -- -- over USB. Why didn't think that's hard to dial out and our theories though one -- -- -- -- clean of the little thinks it'll help promoters can immediately we're really get enough power. Much like -- hilariously we have even gone on the topic and it's interesting how it does Morris think it is this. Ultimately it is now. Well any -- -- today including food and you can imagine that. That reactions to this news have ranged from anger to raids FaceBook -- new pro -- rage. New profile pages with nothing causes of freak out like if they agree design makes it even even on his -- This is just like an eBay crowd reaction I get even put it on that scale. He is advancing here that that's in anger of the in the FaceBook -- Roddy. I couldn't any day change get to change its lightest thing on -- -- -- for sellers are right about astronauts meaning there while the although they're great it's probably been kept to a minimum because space but has not. In Barry -- -- but -- -- not -- everyone into the new profile it is they have redesigned profile right yeah I didn't get it doesn't happen automatically it was you actually have to go to edit their underlying it -- but now there's assignment you know you can -- -- new profile -- -- -- And then you can goto -- three take a little tour of it. And then you can opt in now. It's like you are in California yes. You can get in that you can apparently they can't get -- to make sure that you watch all the videos and read all the stuff about it that -- -- really logic -- -- -- -- can't get back. Out of it other I don't it's not that big deal like it can cool it makes little more -- -- put photos up at the top. It highlights. My favorite part actually is it highlights. Your relationships with your friends so that you can actually. Categorize and nothing what could possibly go around he -- to categorize different rates they love that's. You now have a best friends list. When I originally eon parent olive view and edit and I eat the -- was put -- I want I think angelic actually we're not backlit. -- Go to FaceBook dot com slash about that there's lots of -- profile. And then you'll see how you can I want it its own -- -- of their rank of my friends today. By the investment -- -- the heard. And MySpace did this they had their top eight friends and that became really political and then you are trying to see who live on each person and then they extended it to twelfth and then I don't Stephenson didn't name I don't think they do but it was -- dominant -- I'm assuming you extend friendship bracelet -- have. It does something like this but has a limit of best friends they can happen how hurtful. Is it going to be when you go from when you've -- your best friend and you end up as color everybody know whether -- -- utility lists. You're -- to me hooked that he may try it out very and -- but like that they did not tuna happens and you appreciate that. Like having it looks. Pretty yeah. Really now it is outside of figured out what it is that you're looking for when you go to someone -- out -- she won an -- There Mary -- dating -- hanging out with what they do for a living what they look like anybody right now -- -- -- pick a -- background and you know what of the -- that there Phil what are -- in Q so all of that stuff it's it's right there front and Internet need that you may not like that about yourself. But it is again what people look -- when -- land. I broke out -- only one thing you wanna know when you look at that'll -- friendly are they married and have -- gotten fat yeah definitely done. Right there on the events that right good jobs here FaceBook right on good -- -- Google than nexus ads -- a lot has only uses the they have finally confirmed that connect the fax is real. And it's coming December 16 -- T-Mobile. I don't night Apple another CES I'm last year there like Google phone coming and and they announced at the day we're all traveling -- -- the -- with the thanks I appreciate that they're -- that two weeks -- who don't have to pretend that we're. Not at preparing for Ian. The nexus -- is a derivative of the galaxy S writes it is built by Samsung -- -- not it's not of the galaxy S line. They just -- the hardware and it is going to be it's another pure Android phones similar events gingerbread giant orange tank our office. Still T-Mobile still -- level it is kind of their test bed for -- and yeah -- appear -- devices. It'll be the first phone to be running running -- -- to -- which is the next version of -- And. We have any. Any key highlights to. To -- I'm -- on top of Federal Reserve it and really any resulting in a human now mainly just I think supposed to be a slightly more. Refined user interface it's gonna have though NFC's support the near field communication support and okay ports and there's news and that's what to -- -- -- -- Him the new keyboard built in VoIP calling. Which is cool because it also has a front facing camera -- yet to me is now the holy Grail of the next phone Yahoo! exactly. You can have -- one camera phone going for the. Better copy and paste and support for gyroscope sensors which means fun gaming -- Cool and a and then they also announced that the gingerbread APK is available to developers the -- development we'll. Thanks but I kind of like the wording on -- they're not really -- at night. This is now the official Google phone which is like they did -- Nexus One and -- it. -- -- confused everyone about what phone it and dreaded -- also a Google phone but it can get a little -- ironically. I think they're sort of nomenclature with often in -- mechanic. It's -- cool -- iPhone like highlighting connect the official Google from affiliates. -- though the Google's in the phone what sponsoring business -- design it they don't build its -- They they just -- they anointed and that's very strange I shouldn't say this is the official Google Android phone to your point. That's gonna but that's gonna confuse some people I've never really liked that I don't I don't like that they do that and I think it contributes to and fragmentation it you know this. This -- on ultimately becomes like a test bed phone for developers and a that's okay to -- and but it also means that there's always like a better phone -- Google has picked to be their -- perfect wonderful on. Ready makes any other Android phone feel like they're not eating -- phone is like -- and -- think of the he had to various. Iterations of windows found what you do but there's not just -- flagship windows phone seven there's not -- one flagship there isn't DI found that exhibited there was -- of iPhone -- it says -- dynamic that they can. Impose seven is now science to Android but this Google thing no one else I don't think does that's and I think where -- -- -- -- -- -- no Microsoft. Follow -- No way I mean I guess that united alternate. Viewpoint is that it is a reference found that this is the one it -- like this is what this is totally what hampered can be yet and the all that it can -- this is the one that's not gonna be -- with. This shows our product in its purest adoration and if that's what you want it is available to you. But we're also doing -- we're also offering you'd like the maximum rate we're letting carriers and and hardware manufactures monkey with our operating system like it's okay though we want you to know this is how we design what I feel like the idea of giving elevated by -- a year and then -- let that manufacturers of other devices can do -- ethnic and room. I'm a little -- -- -- -- in the streets TP content from the president is not more different than other phones on the market it's really a reference -- to really take a bigger -- I think it's the first attitude on three but how many weeks will it be before others have. Touting you are they gonna. If you think they like wan emulation ordinary matter of weeks where video editor are you kidding me a couple of -- -- is not that big of but then again this is on skin and her through this and like -- and -- and -- -- -- there's no -- there's no -- design has no -- HTC's sense there's no crap where. It is just. And I guess that's it Cingular rolled it is to be the only on the skin Android device market so that it will it -- visitor role. Yeah I guess that Google is basically. It's shorthand for. -- -- That's really the only true hard differences in a Google phone all the rest of them. -- unvarnished with a -- -- interface over and that it will look like they always have the most up to date are that you really care about that yet that's a moving target so it's like -- Definitely wait you get when you get the -- if I had mentored cute new -- than the last 37 days I would totally be all over that. But I'm really happy with -- -- -- that doesn't hurt my -- at all not even a little bit I mean that's one of them. You know it's about the appetite of implementing the -- -- there's always something cooler exactly which means there's disease directly to look forward to 37 days from announced he asked. Group and it has apparently decided. Who is six billion dollar unbelievable this is easy gosh this is gonna be a big regret. You think well -- the question six billion dollar deal. To get acquired by Google you and get the emphasis and get the mass of their eyeballs and audience to trade group on to. Another another level group -- has no specific technologies -- -- technology and it is a mind -- -- And if you wanna print people -- want on -- sustain that you've got to go. All the way and blot out the sun as fast did you came before someone else can come along and get some traction and also -- Yes I can only -- that's -- when there's no one else in your business. -- there are being event but not enough -- acquired by Google was the end game on all the time and and I was telling you I read an article on the economist on the plane ride out here that Google is. Losing a little bit of its luster as the cool kid on the block now -- thinking. These anti regulation and -- and in Europe and it feels like they're going through what Microsoft land -- -- maybe that's not the end game anymore but. Unit even if they're not the coolest kid on the block I think six billion dollars it's cool that money. Good money for some that doesn't have a technology base underneath every moment in history driving Google can do -- themselves. If they want and anybody could purchase group on OK Google can do it and do -- at google.com slash shopping -- Google product that still. Way to shop is not trivial to -- And they've got this initial lead. For the awareness the consumer awareness and most consumers know about group on -- don't know about any of their consumers and group on currently stands for an entire phenomenal it's like -- the group it's the jello to Scotch tape that's all great. And it's beyond the consumer awareness they have the partnership born yet companies when they're talking about partnering with -- -- a local coupon site re going to group fund because that consumers like you could certainly argument hasn't then this is where the huge drift and that -- -- a big tech IPO in years. And nobody knows what would happen if a tech company went IKEA. Right however. It could turn out to be a pretty unbelievable risks immediate you know what group on is hoping is that they can take the FaceBook model where they turned down a good offer and everything as you credited the to turn and I could offer. But then you know FaceBook now has a fifty billion dollar valuation without -- public. Maybe group on -- like -- we IPO where worth thirty billion. And six billion is actually not even now -- -- -- -- -- because we are still grow bank -- six listener in the chat room says look at foursquare they they didn't get acquired when they click. Have and now everyone is doing what they do. And there are more tech there are more stories of regret in this in this story line than there -- of -- doesn't mean they're not gonna have a I attend next payday. By avoiding this but the odds are. August 80% of these times when you walk away from a -- deal like this you wish you hadn't. You can look at it from kind of spiritually cute like -- -- that we believe an -- sells more than that in and that if he can get that might agree upon many. Have to believe in them away or as Luke -- social media analysts told. Bloomberg it's very common for executives entrepreneurs -- executives of public companies to drink their own -- who believe there and I there's always that when everything is going up into their right it's hard to have any appreciation for the risks that are apparent in your. -- I mean that they might be. You know being unbelievable people actually got in any year they'll -- on you know time magazine like with a the most unbelievable that a lot of -- -- Let -- all hours if you do you believe in your company -- Or so ago. Google also apparently officially launched its e-book online but certainly we speculated about -- last week and it is now it's available. The funny thing I think about it so -- with lance ulanoff tweet about. Their collection of technology and engineering books which includes Charlotte's web com Moby Dick there's a lot of high tech -- -- good little weaving spider web. How concluded categorization fact and a nationwide -- doing it right to also -- magazine America's biggest baby hit fifty pounds they have like me than any of the -- -- have a little ways to go but it. What's their deal all open. Right yeah it that they think this is the camera can text -- are categorized yet because a lot of books haven't -- don't have the metadata. Other things -- -- the easy name Calgary at them and indexing the web. When they index books and Amazon has that right because they can can -- low and even not been there and really works at a little harder to just because that's their business that's their business that's their their first baby yeah and Google can't do that when. And other stuff that's coming out in the skew data is being done for Amazon -- Amazon optimize what you Google optimize I dramatically. So it's it's not only cover it's not all opens the most -- secured. An. -- up -- probably security and apparently you -- have to have an open format. But they do say that they have being publisher agreements that they're gonna get some best sellers. And it certainly independent booksellers are seeing it as a positive step in terms of competition because right now. That all of the the terms are being set by. And all -- Amazon yet this is this is a very powerful. You know. By offering force against him as yet what might think that is really became you can my. This market needs is the ability to keep a virtual -- so if you can get consumers to conceptualize this. In the same way that. That's a -- that consumers -- has will be able to store their Google purchased titles online in their own bookshelf. Accessible via their Google account and which I think is it is a powerful option that not everyone -- -- can get your Kindle -- everywhere with with her think but I don't think people understand. Where they are as much as as you. What Google could do is they could start to. -- -- the wall between book and web and video and yet oil and stuff and -- just becomes part of my consciousness which could raise the percentage of people who read it. In a sense not periodicals and such but I she read books to see them -- not -- -- that that they have baggage from their youth as laborious and hard work most people do not -- books compared to watching TV. They could make this part of more mainstream social culture where -- -- books are people were buzzing about books people -- easily shared them with me that's not all that easy today. I can recommend a movie be your whole bodies -- and I can recommend the book in terms of giving you rich links to it. That's very true that global that thing about -- -- and if they could -- sharing Q I mean yeah I think Mac and that it -- -- books are. Down very clear counter intuitively a very social yeah they always have a lot to pass along -- so the Kindle limits the number of people you can share it with and you can't read -- while they're reading it. Ray won the public once the public -- And -- the publishers also don't numbers minimum arm or. The other thing I like about globally but though the is as a competitive opportunity is -- because. Bertelsmann random house and of their partner they're selling books to Google at wholesale price. And allowing Google to set the consumer price so we -- a lot of fluctuation in e-book pricing obviously -- Amazon is doing that kind of artificial price fixing. Getting everything out in nine and nine the publishers rebelled and had no one has to be fifteen dollars. We actually still don't know what the market will bear for an e-book and I suspect it's around nine bucks. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- They have they have won the flexibility now and so now that now we're seeing sometimes. You could yeah I think that the pricing is gonna start to shake out to more like what the market likes that right because look how many are low load the wide -- -- prices in the bookstore. Things go from being 26 dollars to two dollars in their twelve -- store life. I mean it's not -- -- -- -- at all but we don't see that any books. I haven't yet been so I think that I am hoping that -- -- and up competition with -- -- I think though hopefully we'll settle into more like the nine dollar range likely -- or less. Let's -- as well as a sufficient discount and maybe I mean there is zero. Production transportation shelving and waste that's a lot of cost -- come out and all we got was 50% price cut. The -- or 60% that actually is not proportionate. To their -- one actually an Amazon wasn't even at 60% -- because they'll fill the 25 dollar hardback -- fifteen and then you -- -- nine mini nine at -- now you're getting like thirteen or 140 yeah. It's very if they -- in need of a shake up yet the discounts have not trickle down sufficiently to visit to the consumer we're gonna take a quick break when we come back Chrome is have -- Google is having a Chrome event and we're frankly penetrating -- Molly -- and practically inviting you to join us for the 2010 edition of cnet's holiday help desk that happens every Monday at 1 PM Pacific 4 PM eastern starting November 22. It's where we make you look like a brilliant tech gifts here as we take your live calls and we feel your emails and -- -- Send us an email right now -- holiday help desk at cnet.com and along with the rest of cnet's editors will point you to the right product at the right price. Holiday help desk Mondays at 1 PM Pacific time starting November 22 at cnet.com slash life. Welcome back everybody I'm here and frankly I'm Natalie Morris. In -- me yeah -- the Google Chrome team has sent out an invitation because having your own press -- -- the new black. They -- like you to join us for an event in San Francisco where they plan to share some exciting news. About Chrome. Which wouldn't suggest I mean that they have not yet come to their senses these heavy not during her months of -- operating system but what they never -- -- can be Chrome app store. Which would -- which have the same indifferent and are still who writes that's all one thing isn't it. Maybe it'll be the netbook -- that would also adjust the amount of content that's of -- But -- often. -- will think that's tomorrow. Let theater at 10:30. AM and in the mean time. 30 Pacific and here in San Francisco at -- -- they think -- -- I think so and and this again this. Idea really perplexing mean can't understand what's the difference between Chrome and Android and the Android app store and Chrome app -- and. Lie lie lie -- -- peanut butter and a -- futures the old browser is the operative systems of Chrome OS -- welcome battle Chrome browser and. An international that you get 3-D -- reports it -- -- battling an Android like I totally understand they're trying to create an operating system that is based around the browser that is a in essence a browser -- -- -- to Microsoft concedes that success having windows witness puts -- but they were gonna have to those. -- Anyway we'll they will will bring you some sort of live coverage of that -- -- -- right during our show us that we'll we'll talk about a patent happening. -- it live on live is making some big moves we've been talking about -- nonstop recently they announced their little 99 dollar. -- console basically like the set top box and console they announced an all you can game subscription service this is of course the cloud gaming service on -- Now they are apparently talking to video about subscription movie. Service deal. Which is there at like ten to be able to go the next -- is just governments they can get this out there -- him -- -- really interest. Think that they're doing everything in the consoles do but they're doing it in the cloud -- -- -- -- -- everything that we think the consoles will be doing in ten years but they're doing it now. Yeah so. You know they have great idea is it it remains to be seen whether or not be able to convince the consumer to -- to get on board that quickly. If they're not annex it right they don't have don't have that kind of its popular. Knowledge about them right but they do have pretty they have. Pretty high profile games like you can get real games it's not like you're doing casual gaming media -- actually unpopular game titles. Video art he has what Netflix and -- deals yeah and and then if they also offered a subscription game service like -- starts to become a pretty serious players and then it online as. In a separate from -- to Vietnam starts to integrate movie subscriptions with. Game subscriptions. Right then give me. A bundle and -- -- and -- the -- you give me a bottle right that's key not that they and Google TV 250 and not -- -- that you 30300 -- around our rights and a you the price is great on this it's more than a roku box the same price and AppleTV box the same price you got a wider set of tools and -- NASA -- more of -- it's more of an all in living room box but they suffer from. Wanted to the I don't know them as much of any doubt that -- his defense and -- -- -- -- -- of -- not much of anything. But if they do have a brand it's in the game space. On the show it's a good or bad thing in terms of mainstream consumers -- was a mainstream -- so if you're gonna go there you want consumers to have no baggage with your brand or typically -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- how to be summaries and there's -- -- you would think it is an online business orient common that it the other way right you have the games and going out they might yes obviously you can be done rights wise and deal. Again. -- -- -- -- -- 121. -- -- them I mean it's intended innovation it seemed like a no brainer and someone doing it right up. Keep your eye on Twitter this week why is it -- -- A trending topic that that the big conspiracy of the -- that -- suspicion. That Twitter may be hampering Wiki leaks related tweets from becoming trending topic the way they do. Why would any because of govern -- Adam am I not only -- and like their idea with. -- -- -- -- -- Our pre show and then I follow Carolyn -- areas that Twitter on -- public relations person. And she posted a tweet on twitter.com slash -- -- saint that Twitter is not censoring. -- -- the key -- they're -- -- any any of this at all. And -- that's their official opinion they are not -- Nat but it does seem like. It would be trending a lot higher. They never now I mean that's kind of what of those things where it out a lot of things seem like abate many realize -- the critical -- the world is really only interest in Justin -- however that the. -- -- -- don't care about this story once they understand that it's a leak about them that they are too. Disinterested. Yeah they like the idea of being a leak content scandalous that the O it's about new weapons and stuff and in politics and to -- the homes in -- viable. Ice itself is not entries -- the V precedent that it's sending it into a that's why we should be can't. President of the -- to the press -- of the Twitter supposes. Music the president of that pregnant women and immunity and then in the general. Yeah yeah yeah I've beyond Twitter so it's only a Twitter thing is the -- however it is like part of now. But it now there is such a. The year of the chilling effect that our government's response to the -- -- cable leaks has had. But I think -- is -- now with -- entering because the latest to fall -- PayPal. Which has put the kibosh on -- -- saying that nobody if they can't be using PayPal for fundraising. People have been having to -- -- Wiki leaks like crazy because various hosts. Are chasing it off the web. And meanwhile. Still. No charges have been filed against anyone and no one has has come up with yet a reason to say why the actual leaking. Was illegal -- it's starting to kind of become more and more of a free speech issue. I really acting like our government having this total freak out. Chasing you know us on all over the planet chasing them the site itself off the web. And then putting pressure by some accounts on major website and hosting services to it. -- Wiki leaks when again there is you know. Any news that -- publish these cables in conjunction with newspapers including the New York Times. There is no newspaper in the world which had received this treasure trove of information -- -- would. Now there are public thing. Doesn't make sense to me what you even if -- gonna lean on some point trying to shut down Wiki leads me on Twitter wanted to lean on the four major newspapers -- get these dumps every time yeah they're doing the job of digesting it for people and really making it to whatever degree it is of interest and being consumed as much as twitters and I. So. Where the US government is also saying that they now they're saying that they think if found guilty of espionage and that is what they wanted to -- and us have spent there was a funny and are claiming to keep mentioning the economist -- -- my mind -- -- with. Like an elephant sort of -- in question what does this mean for open governance now and then a second -- like. -- think that would all like the whole. Oh yeah I met Obama ran on -- and open government renew the open open and they answer to take -- DMV in my information is all good. It Stanton imagine what they always are listening thicket of think anybody who never meant it in the first place I can't imagine you meant the state secrets are going to be an extra cents -- profit one of the U delineate -- what is secretive and what's open and let not your best even only now have had to do. Like -- to give you feedback on whether it needs to be adjusted but the idea of its secrets don't make sense anymore. Camera right there. Really you don't wanna run a country have you -- cables. You really -- a country with those people not have secrets where there's a lot of politics in my have a lot of IE I don't think you can you can delineate what is open and what's not you can't say something -- -- -- -- not and then these kind of. I don't think work happily. And -- has. We have I think we will always have a structure of like classified not -- -- sums up I hope some of the classified most of those not top secret right but but at some point there is also going to be as long as we have free speech and as long as we -- -- journalist engine. And we should. There's going to be pressure -- to find those limits rightly. Sure any government can say this is the information I want to be secret but then it does the job of the media and the -- and that and that the consumer this is how much right -- government of the company. Of the citizen to say you know what. It is that there need to be checks and balances -- we also need to participate in IE dialogue -- -- -- open and that's how you get -- that tea Watergate coming into the public right I in the first place and it needs to happen. Is the feedback loop that tells those -- adjustments in either law or regulation are demanded by the people. Ray and obviously we need some sense of what it is that is being regulated out of our purview to note we want that to be in our purview. And in this but to -- and the government's response far more. And I believe me I was not pro this leak I was not happy about the Unix like putting information out -- it in an archaic and then at the very. But frankly our government's response to it. Had to meet and way more terrifying. Then the original leak itself. I don't know -- can be done everything though I mean to respond to it because what what what's required here isn't is a new set of thinking and -- set of laws -- have to have laws that are being broken to prevent this in the future. This has been I don't know -- I need to prevent this in the future should have a lot that they iPod but a lot that Joe Lieberman are proposing would absolutely have an. Unbelievably chilling effect on journalism proposing. Once they go through the process what -- ever goes through -- what I -- -- there we are now in a state of complete hysteria and hysterical attempt yet it will -- like these like these -- -- and -- the Internet does not exist to exchange information in a -- what does that you're doing a -- -- -- You cannot between parties and an on off or I'm never leaves that fell into it that is not a. Valid. They -- and some -- it's. Not as though classified. Came down from the mountain etched in stone classified changes with the governments that come in and go out and it is the job of journalism and citizens to keep a check run this government and if there are times when their classifying. Unnecessarily. Information that people do in fact have to happen then. Not didn't -- -- -- when that information. And necessarily exposed it is all -- over the government to shut it -- unnecessary is totally -- absolutely -- that -- -- and you can -- and -- like -- -- -- the baseline is all secrets must be proven her case to be -- -- administration every -- got -- re investigate all of our standards of secrecy and see -- -- that's not we wanna -- Iran at this doesn't -- but that's that's and that let alone the politics of who is giving them that information we. It's not a lot different about this if it where you -- his secrets would be nine. And when -- be thrilled to have that yeah. William at any cat and mouse game between governments but it's not meant to be held outside of governments that do play -- there is a set of rules of decorum. Between nations even when they hate each. About how they respect secrets and even when they're barely allied -- that in these cables a lot of companies don't even understand each other. I don't like each other are -- are unhappy at their dirty laundry has been aired because against group the balance over 98. Of some political field and I. Absolutely agree with all of that. Except that I don't think that you get to compromise free speech going forward and pass laws that will it will inevitably compromise beat each going forward. Because what's the -- and arguably a free speech moment occurred look it's right like you can't -- the negative when it's uncomfortable I use it for you and and -- don't know how the people become the arbiter of classified. The general elect -- representatives who are the arbiter of the past but how would they not via the of the people see the classified in the does that -- classified at which point it's -- out I how do you possibly let the people see what they're not both the C in the astronauts are assists so you can't -- you cut it -- -- grows back. That we have to. We have to be -- accordingly. It. Mr. believe in the principle of free speech and it is often uncomfortable and often shed like these these they put -- and super awful awkward name spotlight. On thing but you have to be willing to say at the government you know what these things happen. We're totally not happy about it we're gonna work to replace repair any damage that may have been done but we are not. This part of our nation moving forward going to undermine the the very principle that -- attempting problem. But the end result will be stronger laws to prevent this new classes of crime to be strong executed extremely bad and that's what I would -- -- November release in that it hand at the precedent that we're talking about. That's that's -- happening on the Laporte and yes -- report are dangerous. One -- -- -- that was revealed actually by the Wiki -- -- that candidacy is that apparently the -- entertainment industry suspected. Basically -- handcrafted. In the that the kind of thing I do want to -- Handcrafted Spain's new copyright -- I've spoken many times -- -- -- about how we export our sweaty paranoia over intellectual property -- to the rest of the world in this case we get it in the form of hand written legislation. That we gave to the Spanish government because the Spanish government used to have a very personal. Friendly consumer friendly and pro technology stance toward. Toward music toward copyright law and we -- have it that you have fair use not personal noncommercial file sharing is okay and like you could send them when it's on because you like them and you want them to hear it if we force them. Yes we did because what we did is we. The other and the industry launched a huge media campaign Tuesday -- mean it was one of the worst offenders in the entertainment industry. And then basically handed them. A set of rules until the net under a lot of trade pressure either adopt them and guess what they totally did. Thanks regulates. -- are happy to know about that. Okay let's just -- In other things I'm super happy but not surprised to know AT&T has been rated by consumer reports. The worst cell phone and I quite a way better than I quite a ways this unit there's an earlier era you know in 2009 came in next to last -- if you. No that the consumer reports dealers don't want black dots no this isn't going. That should fifth -- the only one who have full black dot small and they're almost all full black dots in only held one half -- not known as it -- right below that mum 99 points but in 2008 they were not even in the top. Q I mean it -- a good package oh yen they they where they were doing well and now has an Itanium. That he doesn't and even -- -- let's call it. In fact that the -- -- the same thing ranks US cellular tops though not everyone has access to the best carriers though. And -- are key areas it's very pleased -- -- -- I mean that that is because that -- most common argument that we get when we talk about AT&T it's -- we -- in the -- will -- -- that will -- on earth. Consumer reports -- -- exactly the entire country. And it is black dots. Almost across on the reply is we take this seriously thinking to look for new ways to improve the customer experience and the fact it's -- Despite the fact is wireless customers have choices and a record number of them to the eighteenth in the third quarter that's for the idea knows not one. Woman over there and can write iPhone so that they have a hero phone not -- long. Other any -- that the data is shows that iPhone users if he spent more data than any yeah we'll see how that's the case that -- know that there's something -- more -- -- -- standard users even use more. Bring me more -- -- apps you know at the maker I think. And are dropped call rate is within 110 of 1% of the industry leader. Really. Whatever poking okay we'll say iPod via Verizon's of them we'll have a comparison. And inside sources telling Apple tell dot com that Apple is targeting Monday December 13 for the launch of the Mac apps -- this would be the -- like. Apps for -- Via their store. -- the -- today Lime Wire. There's nobody in the ghost in -- and I admire and like -- one -- It. Could not be less -- The way I'm not hearing and not. A query right at. Is is letting us know that there's a new Tomb Raider coming it's actually a Tomb Raider prequel which has -- interest. We administered gala opening up by the USA today and it's not -- -- -- like appeared at. It's how -- will tell the story of how Lara Croft got to be an acrobatic acrobatic to -- type in the first place. The man made it didn't and the kind of the bad news July announced that its funny how we need -- -- it introduction of our -- here but they can't just be totally often kept in a bit at a store breakfast. There's gonna be really can emulate that make them believable rate and are totally and another throwback games we -- -- and back to -- -- debut trailer. Action. Packed it identity -- the prequel is definitely the way to keep -- In case you've been wondering why everybody on FaceBook has a character a cartoon character now as a avatar picture -- profile picture it is a movements you highlight. Child abuse. -- an ad campaign for -- -- innocent child abuse and it is. Childhood cartoon faces he's supposed to change your until today actually usually. Sorry but you don't care about as usual until it on FaceBook times I -- actually to -- and I was kind of excited to insert them like. -- -- yeah and going like him Bugs Bunny. It was -- it was to be an invasion of memories. I didn't do it I was late to the game I thought I guess I would do that in the ninth I couldn't decide who I would do Whitman. And -- and then now and ended that article that I would have then. Maybe and temperature -- again we all are completely. I was gonna go actually my little pony. Other equipment -- -- -- and my little pony. I mean like in fact I might objective of the earth and I don't and a -- -- let's extend that campaign like another week. Because child and if that's super serious and a really bad problem and I wanna be -- to do it. Just do it PlayStation found him and talking about like with -- super blurry unbelievably hilarious videos now there's like a -- better video. And they say it in becomes youth. And the -- still say that it can be announced on December ninth at how the Sony Ericsson's youth slashed her friend's PlayStation phone. It is also reportedly running -- You into the phone the media says the phone with a standard PlayStation buttons along with a touchpad in the center of the controller for the phone. Is there where the physical keyboard would normally be -- -- -- -- controller. And with the got a profiled on pretty thin if I'm singing in an angle of about there and a but the -- -- didn't. But again this video -- even though at least this -- high Redmond hasn't taken over someone's shoulder and some -- like cafe in Korea it's. -- -- Apple doesn't playing an edu of course but that's his face from Jane Mayer and know -- and the announcement -- an expense. Him and they don't terrorist network -- -- the place -- isn't imminent and I'm very filings we don't have long to wait to know that this treatment will finance and it says here -- hit lefties and gadgets. If there's one illustrates where and viewed as the gadget to gadget is in fact. I. -- it's the most of the betting ring ever. This art program there while father -- you modified them body as his he's really into like favored adding -- -- and youth in that modifying himself. That his latest thing is that well he has surgically attached -- camera at the back of his head and ice in the done that it looks very. -- although it may take it it really it's pretty mr. immediately and that we reported unleaded that he was going to happen in about two. Weeks ago and then now it has happened in my question on loaded with -- charge that. He charged -- camera. Usually printed and then have it removed. -- So the pictures it's going to take still images -- one minute intervals. And then the photos will be sent to an art museum in -- Which actually commissioned the work and that's not a real -- stream. An analyst team now has. Our thirtieth that hey gotta stop one flu and that a case of heat and if the camera the back of his head it's just up a place to mount a camera. There's no nerve connection right now and is -- old -- -- point and TV and also makes it and. Make that stupid image are important and this -- really true he had -- done any -- -- -- to be Catholic no doctor would know. And -- it's not. -- and -- camera. -- and enough and Destin TVs -- and -- -- I did that already have beaten. And of the CNN video and it removes the thing on is gonna he's gonna shake things stuck on your good. GTA hard core. Security -- it and so brilliant it'll cut the materially -- inherent in potter not. -- -- -- -- -- And enough money -- the art of the art you know it is -- Art is often it is gross revenue decline from one of my love actually actually it's not funny. -- -- That we just wouldn't -- Also not funny. But evidently -- Pentax is corps' Johnny Bravo robot edition limited -- Indian Allard makes me as -- as the last story right taking some work. This is the ugly and DS LR ever made according to -- and author -- -- -- I was a little bit of Lago at first but now its regular parts but repainted. Red yellow blue and grade -- A lot of -- for the robot hand on well as the robot idea what is the robot -- do vastly different reason it's a free rocket had noted discourage any robot thing must be like relief payments. Because -- the thing we don't know over here it's. So. Ugly and they're going to turn to 11190 dollars and Dominic. 100 of them well that's the good. Can -- imagine someone like let me take a picture this is a great moment they pulled that -- -- to -- lapping what are the -- it really is he might pick it early. And genuine they go Merry Christmas present Indian -- -- one -- in science news the -- -- -- Privately on spacecraft the space -- rocket. Is preparing for a -- they have so hard they tested the engines on December 4 and they're apparently you know launch into orbit. Next week and the main boards -- -- of the commercial spaceflight it's almost. -- -- -- Commercial -- depositors. Kid -- what -- technical that's what's the point privatized by it but it isn't really a better -- ago while around come back. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Airplanes yeah I'm gonna go on an airplane out -- said is that it has -- -- and if that was today they being customers. Is like the idea of the airplane and an integrated truss element in this case that makes you -- Yeah but -- don't -- in where's this gonna go is nordic Gold Coast is India's. You're in an and then you're on what -- over. In -- -- and then it's gonna come back and eventually it can take us to our new home -- and -- -- really important it -- destinations get -- this for a long after -- long -- we're. Old dad if we have the nation's well -- and they were the destinations and you know what I'm excited about the idea that that the plane itself and the -- -- well tested and safe by the time the destinations. Are true average flash colonize development plenty of time and we can just -- -- their insulin -- to the news last week according to NASA and there are. Living things to think -- the -- -- either he goes live on arsenic -- some right now living things that can't wait to see him we should go. District and not on my list of things to do this life but added that third is on others -- -- and are have been on this so long enough I know there are people. -- -- No I it's time for I think we all need a little cheer up here at -- -- happy -- This is the feel good story of the weak immune. A high school coach and shouldn't be so cynical that -- but I just can't help it. I spoke -- saved the life of one of his players a basketball player who collapsed during practice on November 201022. With the help. Of -- CPR application he downloaded onto the iPhone Jarrett to the night before that -- convert it -- -- technology and preparedness death. Yet that's 199 well spent -- this -- not free. And what the difference between just going to the safari and Google leaning -- -- -- and -- a little bit later has it that has its -- thing. -- the broader story is that it is easy access to information that. Can be used so quickly that we would have been able to do I mean you had to go to CPR courses in the past and that was very hard to do you get to go it was scheduled Red Cross class rank which made the availability of the information very. And out of classes where misery at -- -- and keep -- -- and all that stuff theater every don't learn anything especially when it expires at the back if you expect believe the fire -- to do that -- And it's -- sepia -- -- -- that expire in the seventies. And got. -- -- -- It doesn't use -- if you don't wanna go and get online were after all kinds of companies like it like. -- -- -- the by the weekend -- -- -- help out the student when -- on defense they by the -- last. -- we are -- -- running crazy -- today is that we're not today in go to our show notes if you wanna see the rest of the emails but a do you want to point out this entry. Stephenson in an entry at cheeseburger fail blog which combines -- of the recent means that have taken over the show the TSA. And to -- connections. Few -- and hilarious that -- I missed connections ad that says TSA man at alma and four -- 34 you grab my crotch but I didn't catch your name. Love it but -- well. -- that's -- for the Saturday there are a few more interesting emails though that I encourage you to go and find. -- blog below that cnet.com you can email us your own missed connections ads -- -- at cnet.com but I'm definitely not for me. 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