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Ep. 1354: Stuxnet worm takeover: this StuxAll the news today was totally shocking: MySpace and Facebook having an announcement? Together? Stuxnet now the "biggest threat to industry" everywhere? National Unfriend day!? What!? Also, the scariest robot we've ever seen: Snakebot. Oh, and I have...
Today -- Thursday November 8 season. -- -- Positive results a bright -- And Hollywood left in a buzz out loud because I tested it definitely it's episode thirteen 54. I keep on getting any -- completely him underwater -- -- really yeah. Your TV -- beautiful -- you are -- I am and then under under -- may be beautiful as well. My TV -- lovely again. And -- and yeah. -- Getting no -- we don't have -- -- here on both I'm glad you're not getting a bad before we talk about the news that's not gonna that's is not a let's go out. You can't do that any video like to have the best comment about today is -- -- my news which is like. Today's news blowing my mind like there's a shocking and there is this stuff going on today. It's -- crazy day for example. FaceBook. And MySpace scheduling a joint announcement for -- o'clock today it's -- o'clock yeah. Zealand sign up off of it didn't really tired camera -- for new unit today itself. This is Facebook's third announcement in three weeks via this time it -- MySpace -- -- I -- on his voice it'd be I think. I was starting to think they got the cry wolf thing -- can ignore it but I sort of -- like as they go down the road like they were starting small another building to crazy stuff. Why is MySpace and basically going to announce I think that the -- -- -- yeah that -- in my face the arrangement of the announcement. Says MySpace first they're gonna hurt them and who might think this -- you think it's I mean -- I don't know what it could be but I. I sort of delegates should be merger all -- hope that I have more than at least logging in with your FaceBook connect idea to MySpace which you can do but they never made an official announcement about it it is sort of com now -- out. But this could be like the official announcement that -- and it or maybe MySpace is saying we're dead we're not doing -- social network thing anymore. We're just an entertainment portal. We got the music may be actually well and if I mean it would kind of be adjusting -- it but had music. So let's it's probably likely to be some sort of music related announcement of MySpace has totally double down on that I in the absence of success MySpace is basically a place to go to find indie -- They're really as a strength and it -- doesn't have that at all -- -- totally like its music music music. But they want MySpace music -- I can completely you know happening -- -- that's coming up at noon Pacific I believe there live streaming it they of the -- be -- -- -- this book. This -- but it. -- -- -- have a problem. In more serious news today security analysts are saying that the -- net worm. Is now has now basically become the most dire cyber threat known to industry very. He added this is a pretty crazy it's computer attack that and -- that was originally made to you potentially target areas nuclear plants. But it can be modified once it gets into the system to take control. Of the industrial systems how the machines work how they operate even when you're -- industry like. If there is able to infiltrate like food. Food food factories they had changed the levels of operation of ingredients it. Works on such minute levels and there -- timeout from nuclear plants all the way down to lower level like food for. It's unbelievably complex this code and then on top of that it is it can tell your antivirus software that everything's functioning as expected. And apparently -- not only be able to take over systems but potentially. Silently steal sensitive intellectual property -- like KFC's. Colonel's recipe right I mean no no I'm serious. Other statistical color. Or you -- nuclear launch -- Yeah I mean this is a really it's a pretty terrifying worm that targets businesses that use windows operating system or windows OS does and -- control system designed by Siemens AG. Apparently that combination is used in many critical -- from automobile assembly. You mixing products like -- Every level they also said this is a once in a decade occurrence the level of sophistication of this type a virus via. And Sussman is super scary and it just -- Blake and to stand -- now and then. -- -- Anyway it's it's scary news we totally can't do anything about it. Yeah it is wanted to report it and scan -- -- -- -- need to have also -- the phone also in the senate on the they're trying to push forward. And it create legislation to. Put more protection in place. To prevent something like this from happening it's the the sad thing about this is senator league -- Joe Lieberman. So that's not gonna be you know it's not on the on the table yet and will be a top priority. After January -- -- lawmakers return so. And it this thing is running wild. It's going to be out there but there's not that we can -- at least prevent heavily before that. Yeah I mean an -- you know sort of feels like the only thing anybody can do is keep their antivirus up to -- try not to be tragedy like the machine that your workplace and that. -- -- met into the industry you know if you work someplace sensitive like how about don't click on any unexpected link third install anything. But it does -- -- The only good thing about this is that it's bringing to -- the fact that government and industries have to. Treat it better protected system via Apple and so if this is what it you know -- are critical infrastructure yeah that is clearly. Open to attack you more more easily if they can take down even the factories from mixing the food combinations and stealing those recipes and -- can do anything well. And that just becomes a really interesting question right -- either private industry and private companies but they represent huge national security threat because of you know the worm gets an automobile assembly lines -- -- is turning out. Unsafe cars or like you said messing with the chemical composition of food or -- -- themselves -- -- -- themselves. What power does the government have to come in and say -- -- -- private company -- we need to have some regulatory control over your security system it's a it's a -- there's also the big question of who made this -- and Mac but if it originated here and yet -- like -- meant to go to Iran first -- totally there's speculation that the US might have created this -- and ninety now if I can tell them you know. Be careful that's crap people. That's stocks this if -- -- and I. In other government is today the Senate Judiciary Committee has voted in favor of moving forward a bill that will. They hope combat Internet counterfeiting. What it would potentially do is allow. For taking down domain names just -- like new -- -- blow him off the Internet if there found to be hosting pirated -- And this covers a range of website so -- if you look at the parts -- things like eBay. Although they are not actively being involved in pirated counterfeit goods they would be subjected to this Amazon. They also -- any other website that are part of kind of the infrastructure that has so Google you search for an item right and it shows up counterfeit links that you can directly go to. Google is also susceptible to being taken down based on -- what this antipiracy bill. The language of it exactly which is an extreme. Extreme but possible and who would -- literally would if passed who knows -- that will pass yet but if it moved or not. Something like this would potentially break some of the core aspects of the -- Absolutely because -- it it it removes that layer of protection -- safe harbor -- detect and that says like look at someone posts something on your site. You don't -- -- your domain are not necessarily responsible can you imagine what that would mean for Craigslist evening for example he'd done. I like -- that eBay which has been you know eBay has. Hundreds of people and all kinds of electronic systems dedicated to trying to keep like fake Kate Spade bag after they've been -- -- any time. But if if Kate Spade and -- came in and won a court case -- it's -- you know what -- thing eBay off the Internet yeah. I mean it's just it it seems so. Like far reaching and dangerous that I -- can't believe it's moving forward. But it has the fall. Lobbying support of the Motion Picture Association of America the -- I am hoping. The only good thing is that eBay and Google also have like butler money in London if he can. But what's also what's also disturbing is the fact that okay. -- do senators really understand this is more than just. Copier cut counterfeited and a legal copy written material that's been stolen or they just don't -- to break this just breaks the system like I could definitely see -- that are. Getting everything it look at this potential bill that's coming out do you wanna stop counterfeiting and piracy on the Internet. Yes of course idea I like it -- site. That's like the biggest issue we have going. I mean if you ask them the you know and AMP -- event like this is one of the biggest issues facing America right now with the existing rules they say I've done little to curb counterfeiting and piracy. Which -- Very debatable since most of the time when they cute you know when they jump -- numbers about. The millions of dollars lost and the jobs lost they've their it has been they have no proof of that whatsoever. That it's related counterfeiting piracy but they're willing to destabilize the entire structure of the web itself. And you know of any -- actually -- absolutely Writely you can't understand it -- they did they don't use the Internet really the end and it. Everything like that they sit around and they don't match I like how has sent me an Internet on Monday it I didn't get it this that it reads everything you know they're they're they're out there -- not he said. Yeah and the the ultimate going to -- into the political thing here. Well now that that really how -- things again start to feel that way for sure especially when -- -- that the Senate Judiciary Committee voted to advance the gently I thought. Yeah I think a bill like this -- that if anybody who understand how the web fundamentally we're simulate how to attack yeah. You know it's going Cisco and the full senate for vote this time for this though it has not been determined yet so -- wouldn't be -- will find out what happens or how this development. -- -- Seriously anti about 95 of them were not reelected that -- even -- remotely related to the net neutrality bill that might have a little understanding of what's going on with the Internet. And how it works there's an equally -- -- -- to something like this is. It's looks a lot worse of it. On the most depressing thing after. I wrote plain old technology Shelly let's do it get -- pistol -- out. -- the official analytic product has arrived at this is. -- tool that Twitter would use to basically give real time information. About the user data in but potentially could become like a huge business -- -- them. Yeah this is this is the analytics you've seen -- -- -- services offered by likely Bentley and one idea and it. But it. To be in do you want have to pay for the service to get access to I don't I don't didn't read where there or when they're actually gonna be rolling this outstanding is sort of plan to you but I would -- last quarter of this year. I mean -- wanted access to this I would love to see like okay when are people responding the most. What key words are making people being in -- mostly I mean. The Emmy people that want more friends to game the system that -- that he uses. Just for that I have better things to do but it's -- businesses. It is all nailed it is interesting for people are working in social media connecting social media consultant by the hottest job -- An industry right now but it's you can find out -- like just as the user right you'd be able to find out what which -- their most successful which ones cause people and follow you. And who the most influential -- into play until users are who replied between your messages which is -- it kind of -- interesting information. If you use your Twitter account for anything like promotional yeah or like that business. More than anything this is this gonna help you show who are. The keys to all -- different networks NAFTA does get your message out and you know you're gonna add them and hopefully they add you and and becomes a whole like a -- -- it's just like the buddy list. And Twitter did not issue official apologies to -- monitor or twit either but we can assume that the cards -- in the -- it into. I would we wouldn't take a quick break and then when we come back we're gonna -- doesn't even more by Tagamet polity. Molly Wood and practically inviting you to join us for the 2010 edition of cnet's holiday help desk that happens every Monday at 1 PM Pacific 4 PM eastern starting November 22. It's where we make you look like a brilliant tech gifts here as we take your live calls and we feel your emails in fact. Why -- you send us an email right now holiday helped us at cnet.com and along with the rest of cnet's editors will point you to the right product at the right right. Holiday help desk Mondays at 1 PM Pacific time starting November 22 at cnet.com slash live. Welcome back to -- a lot guys were talking -- records today. This time call of duty black ops obliterated Modern Warfare two sales record with a five day record crown. Of over 600 and the. Bring them in saying that because previously. Call of duty Modern Warfare two which made 550 million dollars in its five day sales. Outing was I believe considered the most successful entertainment -- In history which topping movies and records and load the whole the whole -- -- their their first day was also record. 360 million dollars to spur of the very Thursday. 600 -- In saying yes so division is happy and Activision does say the same thing and invested any relief in theatrical box office book and videogame sales. I think Don presenter of rightly points out that like. That's a little bit unfair because books -- 25 dollars and movie not ten in the -- you know let's see to me you know I hybrid I don't know what I don't care because whatever the prices people still reveling opinion yeah there's the value there and. You know you talk about -- movies. Whatever the more people go to movies but if they if they don't wanna see the movie they would pay for now it's -- -- -- -- And they also said that the company Sony that -- seeing unprecedented traffic to the PlayStation network because of the game. -- Microsoft said that over two point six million people played it on launch day. Unbelievable I guess that the official going into the -- -- still wrapped up in its. It's packed it I have it it's a civilian pentagon they haven't had you know it's the most busiest time of the year for a think -- kind of hard -- -- any. I suddenly you're unlikely it on DC. PT. -- that's okay on PC but it's like it's a little heart on my system. It's really hard core yeah in computers and from now on an Xbox I'm gonna -- picture yeah I -- amassed by. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Also Verizon says they're -- now -- it has drawn. Apple's interest. -- is -- move to LTE was what they -- was one of the points that attracted Apple to start having conversations with them now. We've heard it and it still doesn't look like Apple's next iPhone. Or whatever the iPhone comes that a Verizon will not be up or Gphone -- -- kind of heard and peoples and multiple times that. It's gonna stick the orgy but it's the future of their -- -- that really kind of lowered Apple into having conversations and now intensity. We'll see the iPhone or on their. Maybe Feinberg also -- -- if the iPhone comes to us is because Apple thinks it's time. -- that our interests are beginning and in the market they have to take steps to -- their technology with our obviously we know that -- -- have to -- some sort of either TDMA or. LT capable you know kind of profit return so I guess it's their time is January 2011. Hour total -- have -- -- read says -- the fifth gen will be multi band. -- Oh it GSM and CD images and Indiana court but -- -- G couldn't -- -- I don't know presumably not forgy I mean I can't see Apple. We talked about this a little bit on the show -- -- think -- you know. I -- more I thought that Apple would definitely wait for LT to roll out yet and -- Verizon but it's true it's really not their way to jump on a new technology because they like to release the live by the experience exactly in the mature you know you ministers Verizon's. Algae covered tools hit only thirty cities and -- 2010 it will really be. A majority coverage to 2012 ranked so yeah I can't I don't think they would do that I think they would go probably old old -- -- me. And got back. You don't read about it rev a which is still pretty fast right Athena. A medium. And it's totally -- national unfriendly today. I love the Internet the -- so weird I know this was first adjusted by Jimmy Kimmel and that the revenue -- Yeah I -- -- all -- friend. Jimmy Kimmel suggested national and friend -- that he knows we have a number different countries but that we don't know and don't care are about so he said. It's time -- be ruthless. And trim the fat on FaceBook. I don't really know what. I mean I'd you don't like it but did that in it was great and now I love my -- would actually do you like regular purges. If it -- you know -- -- developed with people like that I met that one time you know it's an enemy are we -- together. Eight years ago I still haven't separated you know -- CNET. Page from a personal page like it's all -- and it's all messed up now and enough I have to talk about it that I highly recommend it I know I want it now because I mean now literally collecting but -- -- and there are things Mino like an -- the bands that. I am super happy that I am a fan page. My friends -- I don't I feel uncomfortable commenting are posting annual -- -- my friend told me yet but I don't when he opposed to reasons like it's when he posts like. Gore bats and there's all these strangers and yes exactly now it's you know happened to me I think I feel this national and friendly though is going to spark. A reef friend your butt hurt and friend god he's okay today why did you have read me. -- like the hassle of -- we don't even talk what we're talking now account yet I think this is gonna happen. And it. But if -- if you actually talk to them that may mean that your friend. Yeah but you still not know I can't -- in have a red totally don't. What's the limit you have an iPod now the past three months anything more than that we'll get anything used to used and getting rid of old clothes role. I give you haven't -- in more than a year can't get rid of it. Get a talk that person and year -- and I have friends I haven't talked in the year that I'm not going friend. Yeah that. Happens although it. They haven't talked. Friend. -- like you're up to date on FaceBook. I don't you have a friend a -- you have a condom for your but you gotta chime in once a year. They of people and I'm curious about -- -- told friends that you don't necessarily each other all the time but when you -- see tethered to edit like you know back in. -- those -- well yeah that's true I mean it okay rule -- not. They're not necessarily have to planet every line that's -- I mean all those axes I need to see what's. Actually it and it that's totally what -- -- a -- And it it that is just optional investment -- to Malia you can do it every actually a ministers also wants to do and friend. You're watching this but right totally I didn't know it does. The -- -- this. And it minister the reverend Cedric Miller. In New Jersey believes that married couples married members of -- -- -- get off because he says. That within just the last six month alone twenty -- beneath his -- have -- into marital woes because one or another partner pregnant and former parent more so you. -- -- -- if you're so concerned by this that on the disbursement instinct was to basically say either get off -- close their accounts or leave your post. With the church. Like he was -- was that engineering and all. You know it. Obviously you'll. Basement is voyeuristic and whatever religion you are it's that if you are -- -- in -- to be little -- BI is known to be a little flirting your -- not -- It. Here eight KB you can't -- and video on thirty in every sentence that's good. And that everybody -- on the front of your friends. That's I've just try to be a fat diet didn't believe me I player with trees and rocks like -- -- can't recognize that in the. But it but it would mean this is the fun -- really say that like face but is that -- the evil. Yeah now and that -- you -- did evil quasi inside it is absolutely. I -- that the public -- part of our get off the grid blocked today because in the worst story I've heard in awhile. Apparently poor Bill Nye the Science Guy collapsed. Mid sentence last night at the University of Southern California -- during -- presentation. Apparently he actually -- that like sort of several times he was slurring his words and unsteady and no line. Got up to help him when he first -- Kelly he's walking out and he collapses nobody ran to his aid instead. Said one student -- plus students texting and updating their Twitter -- It was all a very bizarre evening. So I know this is -- like. It's reported it's allegedly we don't really know exactly -- I'm sure there were people now we're -- but another look at the look and Twitter is the -- think about it but again there's another stated that said that -- Everyone was so shocked. That when he -- that they were kind of for over of that group of people were so frozen -- haven't you ever seen someone fall. Or someone -- and everyone's like them. You -- really know what to do for that at that moment yes slightly and it's like more it's more than a second it's like you know I've been a whatever went to help him. I know at any point because he probably -- -- got that guy that got yeah he did get back out up Mecca but then they deserted kept. Well the thing about it he he's just like he was cut out of -- like a -- it has happened -- right yeah. I created it. Element and there but you know that you know they've done is studies were like if something bad happens like you know a crime and it and everyone's watching Nolan does anything because there's so many people around -- takes the initiative he actually act on it. Like you with three people were killed someone probably would have none of it's -- UK -- -- -- like a match them huge audience. It's really it's interesting it's like -- of those where ego I. I think in some Kansas people have forgotten what -- -- like you don't totally know and then you live in this one step removed age where they read responses to elect. -- communicated and some people like. I think frequently that frozen it may be maybe getting worse and -- were present and we don't know -- you because. We don't have as many human interaction but that is -- behavioral cultural change the technology people are going to their phones. Kneel immediately and set -- like. Realizing hey we're here in real like the moments happening in -- -- you do something about it yet like. That's happening unfortunately. You -- there is an update -- that story with and with others in thing like come on now. -- you know is down for five seconds nobody is tweaking it but there are what I look back Twitter there are a bunch of three that are becoming -- if you -- -- When -- happen. It back to -- back actual technology news sort of but short form short forms like movable like now how about something -- -- already -- Hulu has updated its IOS application with a split screen player and some other new features bug fixes enhancements. I tell -- looks really cool it's kind of like ABC's app really slick. Even a little slicker than that -- -- -- it looks really nice also use court says they're putting out an iPad specific publication. That's coming out soon in that it would potentially be a sufficient base service but. I've used court has also kind of aligned earlier when Rupert Murdoch allowed -- of the part of the rental service only EBC and options. Are part of iTunes rental service -- of the show goodwill towards Apple and work on products and features so. -- -- -- -- -- -- The any News Corp. iPad specific publication would certainly come a -- at the -- has. They all are upset over -- Another shocking news the days Steve Wozniak told a Dutch language newspaper that he believes Android. Will be the dominant Smartphone platform not -- that Google us is likely to win the race. Similar -- lead to the way that windows ultimately dominated the PC world. Yeah I mean and have to agree with them now you think -- only thing quality many -- Android ultimately has more features and we're going anyway and more phones now. Everything. Ends this. Everyone's favorite. They -- -- -- intend to now in their new bi -- and it's called a one and and you know look are back at Verizon. Is this like all of them in the wall. -- -- -- -- -- -- gadget said thank you Frontline and a chat room -- -- is now reporting that Steve Wozniak says he was misquoted. And that he did not say that he thought that it would be the dominant platform. Well whether dominant in what how many handsets it's on. And there's all the contacts there is definitely telethon was said he lightly prepare prognosticators that Android would become more popular -- -- when I read. But that he expected to be a lot like windows he -- I'm not trying to put it down I'm not suggesting it's better than Iowa but it can still get greater marketshare and still be crappy. Which is -- Leo -- exactly the same thing it. Yeah just damning with painter pray he just being a little nicer so that Steve Jobs is and take -- his free -- that gives them ambivalent in. News -- sit well. But I love I love that it's like the Phoenix for -- -- from the ashes. -- adorable it's the Phoenix that's not rise in Manhattan than normal all right what about gadgets we actually care about that's pretty quick and let's move on -- -- Blocks -- -- got a keyboard buddy that turns your iPhone or. In Canada in tonight phone with an actual slim Bluetooth keyboard it's built into a case it slides out. It's. I'm amazed me like it's been turned them into as of the great headline I'm in -- actually -- to -- on pour into the Android -- always wanted to be seventy dollars coming out I think around December 14 but seriously. Serious look at that thing that how it looks completely natural it doesn't look all I wanna be an awful it looks just like it out of -- -- and keyboard -- -- now I -- -- The Mac. Is -- well done. Less genius. However. Over at. That doubles as a low. Now please -- -- amber -- to it please. No never again will you not to ask. Where's the remote and you'll never lose this for about between the commission -- Because it is they commission with a built in -- in one universal remote good -- The question will be like why is my head changing channels of additive to -- -- -- humor in -- -- that I. -- had -- incompetence of eight. That is. -- what I mean the world green. That's the -- yet have the alerts. Are. Than those -- gadgets we are excited though to finally bring about our new segment the rumor mail. The artist formerly known as the gadgets -- the -- -- well I. I didn't like it we should probably should that are currently works for this do we need a place to place that by the -- and photos and the ludicrously -- sourced assertions that crop up all over the lab. Every day. Like. A top news rumored first pictures of the PSP two. Yeah they did this is a damn potentially. A dev kit. Developers have -- that -- is actually sent them sentinel hardware they've confirmed that like long ago but no one is actually leak is so someone that their little. Six year -- Barney cam. And brought it -- work. And took a picture off. These -- duels though mistakes. PS PU there's the backside with the rear track pad that you can even tell as the track pad because it looks like he shot it with. Your six year old Barney cam. Invited the -- I don't down Barbie camera by -- I think -- demanded that the. Didn't like -- and you all of the leaked pictures always look like that. This is hilarious. Was it under glass behind five rows of Saran wrap. And shot from space. Anyway this -- our light filter anyways it'll make it. That a development sorts though actually conform with the top is that these shots are legit. And if you can't beat you is coming now the real question is will Libya -- I'm curious -- that also in speaking of hilariously and sourced web search and 95 Mac. Put out a tweet. And said you feel like an IOS four point today 1 PM -- -- and analysts -- up by the business -- insider with a headline. Apple's huge software update for the iPad and iPhone could be coming today. -- completely unsubstantiated. Facts. If only I -- you -- while -- it way to create and click -- well update. It's what it passed 1 PM eastern and no updated mineral yet I'm just gonna bring up later or perhaps another day. -- -- network. It doesn't this of the world that we sometimes women and viewpoints to you business and it oh it's coming days today absolutely right that's the rumor mill dude we've been waiting the entire show -- to get to today. And even create hair close our eyes this. Who put -- -- -- -- inside -- few words to words one word. -- Lots -- snake by KK. As if -- the idea of a robotics snake were not already. Marginally scary. The Israeli army's new with. You play it. This snake like -- on the latest now the weapon delete failed to its military all I -- The Israelis -- latest battlefield. -- Amber's yet include cameras relatively little nick McGrath and. But here's the thing yet if you blow it up. It you just end up apparently with the a bunch of slightly smaller -- ethnic -- -- act independently from their after the segment and -- programs. Independently act suffered from one another. -- -- This segment can also be configured with alternate payload. Which are separated from the rest of the -- so there it is in the graphic button and then all of them Q did you didn't like he's -- -- -- up to blow up thing. I mean this action movie -- waiting to happen but I want to realize the -- Okay think about the snake is right awesome mimics you know animal movements however could be potentially look like and all but -- you see how slow this thing is right output. You put that one needs wheels on you put it on the battlefield the guys like -- and again and held the layout of what what's happening to let them through hours and it's going to be quite a crawl let me just -- I damned thing in the late doing versus predator movie in my mind the things -- the talent it's scary isn't it yeah the thing crawls slower than a two year old. And then finally there is no ending to the story yet but that doesn't stop us from making it a happy ending. He's so happy if you've been waiting for a white iPhone wait no longer. Because -- An unbelievably. Clever seventeen year old named -- -- has numbered partner just went out and bought the white iPhone parts directly from -- time. Apple's manufacturer. Put up a website white iPhone for now but offers conversion kits. Which consists of the front and back played platinum mine you mine for 200 and so it -- Fox -- although they haven't Reno you could. -- them directly from them start up your own little web -- He's turned this into 130000. Dollars a privately so -- of these cases for 300 dollars. -- he's doing all right now what happened is up. They he didn't say who was or who they were affiliated with at a private investigator recently sent him a message -- -- -- selling stolen goods and they want him to take it down. Apple has similarly been doing this with that eBay options that have white iphones humble essentially by the cases but on the. The they don't know they donate also really -- let me just I know. I know you think you know and all about the PR and marketing -- does give you one little tiny -- If you go after the seventeen year old -- ingeniously managed to get a white iPhone out the door before your dumb -- -- Oh and then you keep him from using -- 130000 dollars to go to college. You're gonna look kinda jerky. Also I mean c'mon they had to buy an iPhone -- that they're gonna via the black iPhone first and get the conversion it -- -- -- but forget they bought and I've done exactly that you're getting the money. He didn't steal it he bought these parts from -- time -- -- -- on Apple seriously the of that kid alone dear Apple leave. Acted alone leave fail -- -- -- -- -- -- like applicator is like really you're holding Iran I don't think they have a lot of content and now they look and injured. But seriously. That you. And -- unto you that it -- -- Not with a laugh -- out invite those -- Lebanon Turkey Apple what -- -- -- and sixty victory is our phone number -- Marco called a thin with some surprising news about Hulu plus. He subscribe to link -- well the price and we re writes and I noted that look much frame Rachel La Grange. -- talks came out why should we shall. Titles kitchen right they're not waiting for notebooks but -- -- -- -- normal or. On that so war what's going on all -- you know. -- any -- you'll see people all officials on the like the normal world in all it I. -- it was gonna be I'm gonna -- would be slightly chart months and ninety. So you guys -- something please let you know. And I don't know who have to be something odd but it'll all from our I don't know -- you -- -- -- -- -- The only paying more for fewer shows I've heard about this -- the only thing of that probably is the reason why. Of course -- consumers are -- hell is the fact that you know different contractual obligations. Would allow certain you know -- media allow certain content to be available on the plus side -- not -- available on the Hulu. Advertise run side versus the Hulu plus -- which is more about like full season catalogs which. In now and so I didn't gonna break it that's an idea so maybe the -- was not under that group that was allowed to be part of season. So it's on Hulu. I mean this is that we this is how the industry where. So they only -- of I mean there are only currently I think -- episodes of friends on Hulu and back there was one point or as we get all -- -- -- friends and I was trying to get -- just an in the upper Steven yeah and then they all disappeared from -- and it was like only the newest one hologram like -- and and different but I was trying to get product so that I can watch it on the real TV yeah. And give these you know the networks my money via via the commercials and they. Into -- and so overnight. It's not who loose ball but it -- -- -- -- killed Hulu plus product you know ya know string -- maybe in the crib because the disease contractors the math. Is the fringe the sequel to friend. It is -- season if -- does the search problem yeah. We know chat room we were just -- matter -- and Mina about brain and Sheridan and activities and emails let's get the emails this one's from Jack W -- buzz throughout wanted to just wanna share this link that I stumbled across a while ago but pound again today. So I thought it would be. When to share I would be surprise if you've seen it before but if you have it. It's in music are from 1995. That explains why online shopping and reading digital -- using computers for education. And communicating will never amount to anything. Yeah I'm sure that every time this article makes rounds on the Internet the guy who wrote it is -- -- himself and well off. -- -- -- -- Visionaries the future of telecommuting workers interactive libraries and multi media classrooms. They speak of electronic town meetings and virtual community if commerce that bid will shift from opposite in -- to networks -- remote. And the freedom of digital make government more democratic busses no -- And use the word Bologna in his article. And a. You all the computer pundits like all common sense and no you -- -- Clifford Stoll a -- any electronic publishing titanium look at it did it best to let it -- You can't tell -- that laptop to the beach. And yet Nicholas Negroponte -- director of the MIT media lab predicts it will -- buy books and newspapers -- over the Internet. -- -- what's missing from this electronic wonderland. Human contact we'll Leah exited ever. Done for and -- and friend. 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