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Ep. 133: MacBook Air updates, Facebook games grow up, and explaining Google+This week, we handicap the chances of a new MacBook air showing up alongside OSX Lion, show off Civ World, the groundbreaking Facebook game, take an internet pulse of Google+, and play with Turbtable.fm, this month's hot music startup.
I'm just gonna mention yes I was waving the people who couldn't hear a second I believe they can -- -- now so there we're gonna -- a tiny bit. And point -- that. Scott can you repeat all the please -- you won't -- time -- some iMac but -- are they gonna come out this week. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I'm gonna point out that there's no actual factual evidence to indicate that let's say an updated MacBook it would come out this week rather than next week or the week after something like that right every week -- this is gonna be the week. Did -- no actual hard data is that correct. We are just waiting and -- there's no hard data is no -- confirmation other than. -- -- -- to various stock supplies and rumors if you go to Apple dot com it says oh or order now ships in 24 hours exactly what they mappings are Clark. -- things like the people when things like best buy. Outside of that. Exactly -- -- now. Our. OS and in -- lion in terms of updating benchmarks or anything like that are figure out what to run what to do. -- doing that until we see our current test -- -- I mean that we don't know what they're gonna be bigger than I -- -- a -- -- -- -- and -- the integrated iTunes and and -- quicktime. I'm really can tests until it's out I mean -- -- but it certainly any I mean it's -- -- Photoshop should work you know. Sad -- should work. And I mean call duties and older game if we have to run for insurance I don't foresee any problem. Okay now -- With the with that stick it back after doing -- cult -- but because to do with the Mac App Store. Are we gonna have -- -- are are people gonna stop using the off the shelf products that we use to test like laptops and desktops now and go to app -- to -- have to go get the app versions of these things you're gonna run benchmarks. At least on ultimately Apple machines -- -- -- and that's that's that's the direction they're taking app where everything has treatment can be downloadable so. Just a just like the. Apple goes to keep it closed in insecure. And that the rules are there's can make so. I think everything. I'm here -- lowered their and it has slowly shifting to the Apple app down scenario. Of course -- -- is saying that the new hardware whether to MacBook Air may be a Mac Pro desktop mean the Mac mini desktop. -- -- be tied into the release this lion thing which is not even gonna be -- store that is going to be. Download only. And I've never heard of Apple's saying. Hey here's an operating system update and his new hardware on the same day I don't remember them ever doing that right now and that's why analyzer I was so coast of him it's gonna happen this time. Well that's why am doubting that they'll come out the same week I feel like a high degree maybe I like you think it's got -- is I think line is enough of an announcement for one week that's gonna be a whole week -- stuff -- looking at it. And then also may be gets in the kinks taken out then you have a product possibly the next week. Now the line I could see tomorrow in Tuesday's always like new product released after some -- reason I think that seems imminent that that that seems to make sense and on on Apple insider dot com they had a piece that said. Apple has begun advising members of the two retail segment. Of several repertory measures ahead of an expected launch of the Mac OS-X -- operating system. Which is is gonna be this -- -- -- basically telling people up here. Allegedly telling the people in the Apple stores. Upgrade the ram on the showroom floor models and it -- and run the new operating system upgrade in other stuff. And this must have with -- done by Sunday July 10 that was yesterday. So if you're watching -- life. -- -- that's certainly makes you think that this would be at a Tuesday released but again it's not like a big reach helping gonna have a -- -- go -- -- aliens like it just turns itself on in the App Store I'm assuming I I I I. My only reason for -- new hardware is coming out soon is because Richmond is receiving email I'm asking this to return all. In house went pretty much all in house Apple product that as well so I'm thinking they can cause they want and they love -- old regarded Larry yet I'm really sorry that's an indication of sentence and is an excellent outcome somebody should be coming out that I have nothing else inflated -- The the PR person we work with most directly -- Apple has moved on to another company. And it could just -- gone through giving all -- -- -- she sent out back that that is why I. I'm sitting here you've got a lot of -- problem. Yeah -- -- it's out I have. Any data that they didn't ask like the most current thing that comes at the door they asked like that so there's been some years ago when -- -- -- of slightly things. I'm out and I think a -- be the next week as opposed to this week at this point higher or hardware for hardware software and we may get -- we may get an early that's whether asking for there's I think software is this week and I think I also got an email from a couple of emails -- a few apps that I have. Applications encouraging me. -- you know to update like final draft strength software decision makers -- each update before before line's availability. Here's how you do it so the timing of that the end of last week suggests to me. But there's something around the corner. Has got its email summit that it's got -- -- to her without deal Moscow and talking at lunch when these days. Nine final cut pro it is a screen running apps of course are want to launch. Let's get together let's say that objects like an -- on I'm gonna give you one more. Another old quarry Apple rumor is making the -- again. That is that Apple is gonna work on -- Apple branded TV set. Now does have gone past Contra affair regalia theme Wall Street analysts all the users you know -- in this theory the latest version of it is that. On top of on top of the Apple TV actual TV set up the AppleTV box. The good to establish -- and -- I'd genius squad kind of like the best -- -- -- will -- -- your house and look up at its hateful right. My dad Arlington Texas. How likely is that Scott not like -- it's not -- take wicket. If you're my dead in your dreaming about a product content but if you're anybody else or anyone else who doesn't use genius -- to pick up things at home perhaps it'll likely would be. -- a sixth fix toilets that not Joseph. The reason I say no no no they're not in the consumer numbers now they are now coming in zero and because it zero because Apple out of here at Apple makes products. The way Apple puts product so they put him out so people can. They make -- user friendly they don't make a product that would demand -- need someone else to come to us -- to do it that's a good that's a good -- like that a lot -- that's not how they do it that's not the Apple way. -- -- Now but if and again that this have a little team of something and then go to Google did this bottom there is anecdotal what -- -- be able to facetime. But facetime a genius for if you -- -- local radio and yeah but they're not 2000 and business TV if there are -- -- -- -- and inking some of them but I think the I don't and I. There -- key is design and simplicity I don't think they're gonna complicated like that and if they were to build a TV it would be all integrated you putting your Apple ID. It would -- -- liquid Apple TV do you wanna -- -- authorize iTunes purchases through the Apple TV. In that view all said and done. You are closer TV six the monitor you plug in an Apple TV into it again and it does pretty likely they -- doesn't make sense why would they ran -- not far off from -- -- -- -- -- -- does is -- normal street analyst says what we -- of genius bar is similar to the Geek Squad. Which is fairly well known of the US is best buy since -- -- to facilitate technology. Adoption in many respects Apple already offers a number these services in store. However in our review one primary difference between a geek and a genius is -- it because the car. Okay. These so it's a Volkswagen but we believe -- offers and current installation service wall mounting delivery center and looking at your network. Exiting. -- 60 Julie what junior Merkel probability that -- line you're gonna go and I'm trying to think to line that's a very well and really their iPad is on the TV not -- that I think. I checked and updated his life is one line I think these -- -- -- I -- gonna be gonna come -- with down cable company. I have it in bad Apple and Apple they were absolutely -- -- between 10 AM and five. Considering my experience is the Time Warner I would look at that. I mean they they pretty much who have let you go -- store they have their own little segment there -- got come to the Apple classes or against any typical app. You can Geddes -- uses are you don't it means that it now. -- through this point it's on an effect. It's great it's a great that's a shame people to sign up for disaster like a family member of -- out of the a New York men and British they have some cable company evidence tied in July 8 graders sat and now we can access -- exactly these days and asked aren't aren't I wanna move on briefly. What are you gonna talk about next -- you had to iPad being new and it does not I think we shall shall off. Pick one cool Taipei game we can show off an hour this week viewers I've heard -- iPad game of the week the game like others talked about it when I -- -- I tried it I cannot figure it out please tell me what's going on. I'm tiny tower all right is it. I -- I hesitate -- -- Akamai. A lot of people and I've been abusing on the iPhone not the ipads in my tiny Tara my iPad is very nice very tiny indeed. But I was playing the signal through the weekend many recommendations. Breasts fresh -- -- the people we know of the day the what is going on like this and I've played I still don't know what it it basically the is kind of like a foreign villain a tower mean your your. You're watching these guys run around your -- you're building floors for -- you're selling goods. You are building more floors and worked its doors and step and given a job -- -- it's one of the is like it's like a very pared down sim type experience where you just start. All bowling and amp -- for them is more more people more more floors. Is an alarm can you lose any easier people die or moved out -- -- just -- -- it's like nothing happens it's more strangely hypnotic. You you kind of wait for things to get -- -- that the little -- in a rush -- -- -- and -- do is this free. This is free is a solid energy dinner and I got -- different floors and -- get paid extra. Delivering -- there's -- -- apartments the second go to new wave elevator action here and you can doubt be -- iPad though the retro style graphics are kind of fun. You can and restock caviar than of course you -- -- -- I. 29 minutes like farm -- you can speed it along with the tower -- which -- happened have. Or you could you not an option you brother I'm not gonna pay a dime astronauts. Yeah I knew. He does things right -- it's -- like -- like you make the construction workers were faster. It makes things happen a little better as opposed to the normal currency earning. So I just -- you're -- -- store on the -- Photo studio -- -- full of single portraits why not. 29 minute -- so. It's a lot of weight ratings can you buy tower books and speed things up and that the best you can not that that's me that's a very good model an -- I don't do that and -- -- that could actually thing need to get things -- -- turn -- -- come back to it it's smart enough. To stocky full of claims while you're being gone so a lot of times a 2000 -- light in -- half an hour ago to something that you can build something otherwise it does give up on. But I kind of did -- -- -- economic it was sick and became this like hypnotic fish tank as therapeutic. Strictly therapeutic but I can't quality games. We don't -- I am it's not really ready to put a stop to these in game purchases they don't out of control that's a model but no -- -- -- -- -- -- -- and -- -- -- so it's hard to complete a leg a little big clinic about a little outfits for LittleBigPlanet characters but it's getting remote control when we do that too but I outfits for when you start your own video. Oh yeah I know I just amazing and Toshiba that -- what I went into a beer and -- accident the by -- -- the make the next level. Then we have a problem. You know you can't let up without having to -- of the new got a problem at silently that's what I'm assuming it's reflected light if I can you just have to -- -- -- to get past certain levels all -- the thing. Games work on the content -- -- the same amount of energy and -- -- doing stuff and you have to wait for your energy to for plaintiffs market differences and sent or you can -- and keep going otherwise you just gotta wait a couple of hours and come back this is similar though I don't see this there's no real social connectivity with tiny terror alerts like missed it there's no like I -- -- -- games it's like that even with the with the game center not quite the same Zynga. And FaceBook -- -- -- dislike connected speak right which what is in games and of NBA jam at NBA jam the game center people don't even use games entered into it. -- let me quickly draw your attention to another game and actually take over the that -- -- appear for a moment and this is. -- -- urges regulators say this is this is one of those one of the baby steps and a crossover between FaceBook games which you cannot ignore its two. Huge a phenomenon and so called real games -- -- games they took. They took civilization the -- Sid -- game. And basically put it on FaceBook it's called -- world. And -- I should be tried to loaded up its apparently so popular. A little message from cartoons Sid -- popped up -- at. We know we've been up here recount I actually getting into the game levels proposals -- nation -- into the -- and who are really okay. Although it still connecting -- this is a lot like you gotta love online and empires. And and -- from the other FaceBook gains but also different it's much more like John -- with camera and a really I think the game is still mob now by people it's literally now working and that's kind of one of the problems with the game if it and that is that they're not. In a -- I -- if they're not taken from the queue from the idea here's my little test again. Little town -- Etsy can scroll around here BC it's kinda slow and you could take your workers and assign them to it. Either beef farmers or or they can mine or they can research science that the mini games. I -- loses to advance your as -- -- art I can do this little puzzle right here or consult this means. Is that may. That means somewhere. There's zero on a mini games and -- the company gains but it's a little sluggish and county -- it's not quite optimize. But here's the big problem. They double a cool PC gaming size PC gaming style stuff on here. But they have not taken advantage of the some of the learning is basically of the big FaceBook games. In that the screen is -- cramped. You can't hit full screen on it and take attitude of Google's Munich of the FaceBook games -- And it's a little sluggish and drag in the thing here to move my map for NC to a slow that -- -- that's not your connection people that's the now that that's the actual game and our apologies to anyone who's listening to the podcast will will -- -- -- So that civilization world and it's also difficult to. And there's a ticker of all these updates on the bottom -- -- continual little bits of information are -- but it's not as easy to connect with your friends -- -- is -- games. Because you could end up in once again it's almost like an M memo we have -- -- shards in a way through a bunch people and one kind of game and it ends after want to start another one. But that's not really easy way I've found to sort of say I wanna -- specifically with you together. Let's go in the same world right now and that's a huge. And that's a huge I think that people like about FaceBook games so. Yet the good first step clearly still a beta. You know I think they need to to ratchet up the FaceBook level of it a little bit -- a little bit more like the other games that have. 304050. Million. Active monthly users so -- -- -- -- people IBM and that's what you give it. This debate if he can't really -- I think it's got a long way to go before it's to get as potential. Of course as potential and it's a kind a game that's actually perfectly suited for. Where that and I think for FaceBook. That it's gonna make a little bit more FaceBook lite on thing. -- -- one -- will show Intel thing for it. And hit refresh honest -- and -- -- -- -- on Google plus yet. You have to I don't -- in -- -- -- I got. Some are so mean and man am I joined I didn't think we're really wanted to and I'm like this them among the -- -- -- keeps chasing after me like I'm gonna tell -- yuppie Nike and confusing after me just give me a little updates are like smuggling a my little little words are gonna cut back speculative. But -- that of those BC world pay cut effective returns. My eyes are watery. Waterville and am I -- I -- explain -- you right now yeah. -- -- -- What on Google pluses of of these guys. Area. Or you -- it are you want Google plus no. What is that it is the greatest social network ever it is a gift from god -- What is so great about it. It is a place where you can connect with your friends to share links. Pictures video and more isn't that FaceBook. No this is by Google. -- -- Okay. So what do people do on Google plus. People connect with your friends to share links -- pictures video and more -- okay. Isn't that FaceBook know it allows you to share only with the people you choose. But don't you choose your friends on FaceBook. Yes so how is it different it's made by Google. Then what do people talk about on Google plus. Google plus. -- -- And assuming that the pilot confusion and yes sure it's the best place to find a bunch of tech journalists are talking about Google plus without a doubt -- no doubt it is the number one resource for that. It's so if not exactly that -- I've luckily we -- Friendster. And I had MySpace. -- at FaceBook I've done this hobo style transition between social networks before an activity again to pack up the bag you're wrap up your wrap up the clock toss and you stick to find some new friends. I'm sick of that I wanna I wanna just relax and not to it and I knew that this would happen someday. -- a Facebook's ultimate social network that eventually someone else is gonna Angola Canada happens like MySpace as if -- right but I do whatever so it's -- -- Gmail who cares anyway it has to be more compelling news has to be animals and -- -- mode right now. Thanks I am often don't know actually gonna let you go get used to an end run -- gaming today were the best week which is that he sent -- Yeah this is really go to another social network that he removed -- Google plus profile and made him incredibly happy because there's too many social networks are too many of them. And Google plus can't just replicate you have to do activity and it is waiting and that plain white background. Is like it. And again it just -- it what is the point. I mean for quick loading has never MySpace and they created as Pedro the animations the videos and music. There if you hear us five minutes way to go to page -- If you're Google -- if you really love Google world and you want your Google world to be tied up wonderfully neat with cool circles -- This is your dream come true Connecticut senator Olympia -- problem Google Voice school -- Daniel all the external connected want to stop all of your Google stuff you know what -- Google they need to make an app and an actual collage and import all your albums from FaceBook is nowhere in Google's albums -- -- I of course completely agree. I mean Linkedin has already like like a strange. Distinct cousin yet -- hangs out in the in the corner of my social networking. This solar says. I don't want -- and just basic reason. I never checked in the connections come after I get the email comic and I fine except that I think I think an email -- an estranged relative thing like Katie haven't come over lord. -- -- and -- treats face -- Lincoln like Facebook's every terms of the reviewers and boom boom boom. It's like uploaded a link in the -- which -- -- is here which has just -- people out anything really -- have -- -- Darlington -- Revenue -- once every six months ago apparently except invites -- -- now. I -- -- quickly I've got a really -- He's -- -- lea man art I've got three questions we get three cool prizes. -- -- -- really can you grant three contestants to play in the meantime. Applause after and that obviously an electrical raise your -- documents -- -- -- stuff. I read -- -- the Iowa and analytical equipment -- What is the hottest new. -- -- -- web start -- of the last. Literally we can -- Okay what is really hot now that only -- few weeks ago -- it not okay there my dirty answer during that particular tables -- a -- that -- strictly be checked without -- you're not only I've been on there -- already had been on there and analyzing. But body you create rooms but -- can't go on the fly but some are created and it's basically a chat room again and on AOL back in 1995. -- but with people basically lining up and playing DJ two. DJ as they all take a turn playing the song -- can have a 2200 people in the room listening. It is beta right now -- get and -- -- of your FaceBook friends and I'm -- up off that this seems like you were dream. Site I think of danger did you UDJ background this is likely thing back Rick Edwards going to be -- -- album I guess that's the a site that was tailor made for Dan Ackerman. And my turntable and then I'm gonna take an announcement is the fastest. And -- got traffic circles you're gonna -- -- the song that they just told you -- Sox of that end the -- anyway. But it's hard to spot is -- DD one of the popular of people lined up waiting for it is I gave up a little. Not that I want to know what Oscar that I have deejay TSA already -- over the London patsy. The Rodney gave her the job and it and they'll blast outside your cable but the laptop is based on what -- -- from -- -- download -- and that -- -- -- of -- -- there. And you vote as long as either leamer author of the community -- the -- yes. And everybody in the crowd down here is an avatar somebody in the room right now and you can just make your own revised sort of like a often overruled the other -- Day UAW wants to make man John Williamson it's -- that's -- anyone coming to that I know that I. That's the question about exactly -- yeah a whole mess of sounds acts. Yeah there's a new mobile video game's soundtrack room yeah Sasser and other massive media easy -- -- work -- make a home -- should allow. -- -- -- -- dubbed Stan ninety's mix IR the eighty stuff like that anyway that's that I give it a very cursory look at them. So it's it's a closed beta but if somebody -- on FaceBook in the -- a member -- you can log in through faith but yet on there it's actually pretty easy to get and so -- can you you're in so we know some on FaceBook has so anybody and -- -- the first five you like you've got. -- -- you can either upload your own songs to play or they haven't been online catalog to stream music you can choose from the legality of which is a little bit of a gray area right now. They basically say it works like any other Internet radio because it's non interactive. But it is pretty attractive because you're picking the songs and stuff and you get voted -- -- voted down get DG pointed unlocked and avatars. Anyway that's that's turntable that FM -- will set -- a little. The -- of next week. And and not only because you haven't ever sent me an invite -- but -- got it -- -- -- like you to Intel and you'll log in by connecting your FaceBook account and if one of your friends is in Italy you. -- you'll be answered the Yankees patches yeah. Right we have contestants for our little game it's okay. So we have JL. ALS. That means we have speeds is -- as three I -- on the space. Embedded -- and Henry James W. Games W two against. Google and -- I'm -- and you -- trial I've got three questions I've got three prizes we're gonna make this nice and easy. Here are the prizes and we -- -- them whatever it'll work out in number one. Held ever -- -- -- that this chocolate covered -- the other weakness in there and you think that way despite a slight spike when the chocolate Iraq here's here's defend their defense for insect Armageddon -- most disturbing game. In years for the Xbox-360 because Greg are you ready who would like the first Scott you're gonna -- first yeah okay good life got. Who -- and because we talked about the MacBook Air these raw Apple -- questions I don't -- raw Apple experts and should be easy and are now. It means Apple MacBook program 2000 miserable and I don't know where their vernacular daily and what doesn't on an iPad doesn't mean you don't know all about it tribal dentist got. Who was the first CEO. Of Apple wants it. Com. -- taking. Notice how Atlanta -- -- I. -- as an embarrassing and even know this but -- -- and what wasn't. What was what was -- jobs is that your answer that would be incorrect figure Wozniak. Dell also accurately and pick -- -- -- Out of her name out you gotta get it wrong -- the first CEO of Apple and this is be a great trivia question to get through to other people the future. 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I I am working for a a Fuller -- than that. What -- the -- main man get this gotten got -- now. Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute I feel there is closed -- lot -- -- I gotta tell -- It's very close to G four -- is is it's -- is pretty good I'm good step that you -- you the actual -- -- power Mac G four Q out there though. Are -- -- -- -- file which is a Cuba and I'm like I keep mine knows how long yeah. Okay. I don't know whether what I route into heavy winds the and a studio history what is -- -- of the blood and that again it all right next next prize. -- that's what is so easy I'm gonna make it Cingular prize not a double what does this. How about you get your choice it's -- this is easier telling me -- was once again I have two things here I have some Street Fighter IV Bobble heads. Or I have all state Resident Evil the mercenaries. Case for your Nintendo 3-D S if you have a three yes I'm aren't the Bobble heads well -- whoever they -- the -- in general might -- -- -- -- as he wants security this is this is too easy actually. When you -- and stuff and -- I know that you -- thunderbolt port they have on the new MacBook pros up. Bet that's mean dad that's actually a version of I -- a different technology built by Intel doesn't tell -- a techno to elect of getting I went and. We series in an area is carried not -- -- like you are every day I got me into a light peak. Yes -- -- that we -- -- residents know we did not into anything. Now lets you do more -- and you go -- on the -- I think the three question format is probably the best for -- not -- support and twenty minutes on the thing I -- -- ma -- shortened show. It's still. I schools -- minutes after that Alice I also think high -- cellular and genetic and I still say that -- elements -- what you're is that they -- look for the little man he actually made some -- question. Actually if you believe I have no idea who noticed it yet relaxing weekend -- -- -- -- realize that whenever I the American Apple. So yeah. -- anybody else have anything exciting and very quickly. We can tell under Google plus they have a good thing your friend -- I don't know if that's something like this yeah yeah yeah I'm Jessica yeah plus you can talk and -- and came. Ads and then yes it -- because they're -- the good news of a -- city may be dead -- you do is turntable. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And of course just popular -- digital city dot cnet.com anytime to watch SF as a or Panama I'd use my -- about the little of the games -- once -- -- -- you open is good -- a slim fast. -- everybody.