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Ep. 1304: Apple: Only professional fart apps allowedCupertino finally allows apps written in other languages but says No to "amateur hour" and more fart simulators. Also, Verizon may ban Google Search from its Android phones; the New York Times will eventually give up on print; and the Web knows how to...
-- that states that tonight when Kennedy's hell I'm -- well I regular welcome to. Plus that laugh yeah guy owns cnet's podcast of indeterminate length episode 1300 and floor. True and which hopeful business. And you only you are -- a -- -- a close to the rescue its. -- to the rescue table reporters but -- -- -- -- area but I didn't but they've com speaking of confusing Apple has changed its mind on the whole idea of not allowing flash derived. IPhone applications. This does not mean we will have flash on -- I don't know what Apple has said today is that they've done two things first of all they change their developer's agreement. So that you can now submit an application to the app store. That was written in in language other than the original ones they think. They require -- objective C so you can write your -- in any language that you want. Or you can write your at. And have it translated. You know one of these intermediary programs that can translate out application multiple -- this is this is fairly fairly big news. They also the popular departments a second but they also publicize the guidelines which before with a complete black box like you throw it over the walled Apple and then maybe they -- maybe they don't animated it's about the three month you -- -- So that put PDF files from page PDF file out saying what we what you can and cannot do and the guidelines are. Amusing. Yes. It kind of gives you -- -- into the mind of what goes on -- side I can just imagine the room of the app store submissions that there's a room with their like. And I do you believe -- -- man dead here's another fart -- yeah Jesus was has been any you do the -- -- who got aren't edited today and what other things they say here literally is we have enough are apps that refresh and this is not a legal documents thing I mean here or where or you may not do an app that of this -- that they actually say we have enough fart -- They also say. We're not hiring a second person does to take care -- This is a living document and new apps -- -- new questions may result -- new rules though it's basically all open for interpretation on there and. The the other one -- -- thing here that's real I wish Molly with your partition if you still in doing chosen New York today. One of -- -- seriously the the things they say here we have lots of serious developers who don't want their quality apps to be surrounded by amateur hour the admiral -- that's an amateur is amateur is that this is how apps get big is amateurs. Amateurs. Now do apps. And then they become in the get better I think what they're wrestling with though is that signal to noise ratio of amateur hour right it's like -- There's. You know an eighty pointing out how whatever kind of rule you wanna apply to -- -- -- is still for every. 1000. Fart apps there's the one you know that really good art understanding fart app that also far in different languages or do something innovative. For sound like Darth Vader something that I mean I think this is Apple's this is Apple's the -- that the getting into is like. Yet as Android is catching up and there it escalating need that app war with numbers of how many apps news -- has. Apple's new thing it's going to have to be quality control of -- -- -- we've got 250000. Apps but we also have the apps you want to we have been -- that are actually going to -- use the better experience and and yes yes but Apple in addition Apple want -- both ways they want the numbers which means. Bring on the -- and death deal is kinda blew but the whole like relenting on developing in flash the flash program in that it's. They also want the quality yet it and and another thing that. The show and you know it is black and white here in the document is that -- -- exercising content control in terms of what they feel is appropriate so. They say somewhere here if you want to right -- if you want to do sex positions write a book completely not gonna do and a -- song about it right. That's kind -- is -- -- -- content is okay but apps are not so they're trying to. Say they're they're exercising very tight editorial content control over what doesn't applications they say for example. Professional political satirist and -- are exempt from the ban on offensive or mean spirited commentary. Again what does that mean for quote unquote. Amateur -- so when the become an it professional -- -- and amateurs that -- is a very very fuzzy distinctions here -- another one is apps that duplicate other apps already in the store may be rejected particularly if there are -- -- button so if you're thinking about reading that the dictionary. Or another about. There's worry that -- do -- another. Are they too many Twitter apps while my right yeah I worry on that is supposed to -- a dictionary app that is actually better than of the dictionary -- but it may be -- better and will the app store reminders. Rejected because it has competition because I'm trying to compete -- that's not the way that you make apps better or do they even go as far as to evaluate the added benefit -- the value of this new -- even if falls within a category that they've already deemed most looted and over and that's what Apple that's that's essentially what -- listening right here is that they are exercising a very strong the value of an editorial control. Overlook it's into the Gaza mentioned that the higher the price the more they can really be looking at what that I appreciate that yet yeah absolutely so -- that protect people from parting with -- now. Parting with their money go for bad captain anyway the it's a -- it's fascinating -- -- -- links in you can you can read the whole thing it does not read like legal document reads like. People trying to be reasonable yet trying also to maintain very strict control. That's at what we've started with here about Apple opening up the app store two things written in other languages other development environment -- is is serious progress and very good for app developers that means. That you can write an -- in one place and import it to many different platforms. And as long as the metadata or the app itself doesn't have references to other platforms -- Apple won't -- it on that grounds which they were doing previously. So that is very good progress for the developer world -- kind of shows that that that. Whole statement that they're making before about it was really. -- personally fidelity the a lesson about quality control it wasn't about. When the app would work no matter about security -- that argument usually like let now. In the in the -- -- Adobe. It was yet. I think you're totally right and it was also kind of seeing how far they could take it. They want -- -- -- get away with this for four months for a turnaround that's pretty quick amount time it almost seems like they're heading off. Potential legal issues by doing this alliance in an impostor. We've been but I think what happened was of the developer community was like come on. -- -- if if indeed they were making it this with personal lives was -- about Adobe it made the developers the poems. In this battle which is not cool it. You know you have to serve the developer's first that's the bomber got it right when he got all you know among these twenty onstage with -- developers developers developers. You have to serve the developers and Apple has been serving the developers by making many of them reaction. But it's also been restricted in a give and take it. And here they're trying to evil the more. Be more open with the developers let them do what they want make even more money this is the right thing for them to do and now of course they're showing how to take -- panel restrict. A lot of companies but a lot of these applications that can translate between. Flash or some other programming language into the application are really can lower the bar of how what people who have good ideas -- want to make -- out of it. They don't wanna learn C plus plus. Yeah I think it you mean the amateurs amateur is right that there is that this though the damages and the good idea I think this is the hey it helps that. That mean known cost of doing business so that they just kind getting your idea out into an act lab. -- -- much faster in theory I think it's it's it's a good thing that that particular user well we'll see what it does that two apps in the store will see more. Amateur early written apps with professional content I don't know -- better. As long as they don't reference. You know code that's not part of the Apple approved that's still part of what they're saying that -- -- clicking each and every one -- -- it's not downloading code where we don't Cuba yet that's one of the other there restrictions out -- can't download code can't be any hit don't even know Easter eggs which is kind of like all while our. In have a week we -- -- in the case -- are they saying no hidden features that. Those features would be banned from violence based on the things it's in the past are they saying. Absolutely nothing that qualifies as straight with her. I don't but that but they are being restrictive about. Having apps do what they say they do nothing more nothing -- mean. Oh speaking of actually sent her grab now we all like Easter eggs into essentially straight -- turn flashlights into tethering yeah and that's what they're getting it exactly. Speaking of ban -- comin' down it was reported a few days ago that a a Google Android phone the Samsung fascinate. Runs. Being search not Google search in the cannot change and that was bizarre enough yes now other rumors coming out. That Verizon is making a policy statement and -- dropping Google search. And Google Maps. From all future. Google Android phones. It's plausible because of what's happening with the fascinate but -- -- because. It is Google right. They had used it to me it seems so strange in such a weird biting the hand that -- view that Android is finally. Giving. You know that all the peoples and in Smartphones and that the European Smartphones and yet again -- you're gonna get. That that very -- search database and replace it with Microsoft however it is an open -- -- yeah but they are allowed to -- -- -- but it's also like well if Google's not gonna be. Able I mean what school getting out of that Google is essentially getting money. And -- -- and hundred dollars but it. Hey -- -- component for Google is like a really big deal yes that's how they make their money I mean advertising is that we're Google makes them and they don't make money from Android. There were directly right they should -- -- the thing. But they make money from Google search ads and Google Maps ads and and YouTube ads and all that kind of stuff. There must be some sweet deal with Microsoft to make being the -- changeable default on Google phones. But I can just imagine the business people inside Verizon's head it's bowler hats -- -- and what they've done before phones. Just a bizarre -- thing but. Highly plausible yet I'm sad to say yes paid day I conceded did -- -- how do we need more money off of this by getting by -- Microsoft money against Google's money -- and put us in -- position of power that as deciding who gets in on the phone. Now doesn't -- it doesn't seem like it's absolutely impossible the new Google search bar in here you can download the -- and install it manually is a -- load. But still it just -- it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because anywhere else the kind of you know -- the common knowledge is in -- browsers on desktop and stuff but there's always a default search you can change the action -- I -- you do that here it really does make on. Sent Apple lets you choose what you want Google being -- one others. Which and this does that make alters. Features like spoken search and -- that's -- -- it better lately there have bigger -- of of that about operatives there are reports that removing Google search in Google features from these phones is actually making -- -- -- -- crash. So so integrated yeah I mean it's like the old days IE. I don't know which version five or six being integrated into windows right you know you you pull it out and and Microsoft said apparently you know people are you gonna -- everything. And of course that's not really the case he can write that doesn't happen that way and but in this particular case you know. Google didn't create the Android operating system to run without -- search as -- that that's how they make their money gap so now whether they. Built in time bombs you know to be taken up opening -- I don't know but apparently it's not an easy thing to do. To make it impossible to use Google search and -- Effort bizarre news Verizon has a history of bizarrely phones and this is -- -- take on the bizarre meter I think this is broke. I think I can understand this -- your from a manufacturer's aspects of standpoint like it Samsung just said. All of our phones only -- being as we made a deal it's kind of strange to me though that was an operating system like Android -- across all sorts of manufactures and everything that one. The Verizon Wireless would say no you have that you have to have being replaced school and the fuels such atrocities and must. Thinking it's more like this is a feature we're giving you an end and it -- -- looking how does like an advantage over all the other Android phones we've got being -- that would be a feature but making Google -- impossible is. Not -- he would hide hide that part you gloss over that pay no attention to the record breaking your phone -- this other thing got. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Oh boy can I just a little rant here and another thing that has bizarre games that I OS four point 14. IPhone launched officially for everybody last night and I downloaded and I tried -- -- which is the social. Matt -- match up service personal they're very few games on but the bizarre thing is. It's yet another Apple service. That social like -- -- -- ping. Which comes with no links any existing social network now I've just been dealing with you know several dozen requests to be printed on pain from people like don't know and trying to find people do know but I can't link them from FaceBook to myself -- Twitter. I'm going through all that ping is incredibly annoying and I -- games that are and it's the same thing and it doesn't even -- -- ping which I'm now dealing with right now. So they've added it wasn't like I mean a lot of the competitive services out there like -- paint. Yeah I've they'll link out like your face but forget the -- has waited built in bringing yeah you might know. And anything that some games that are doesn't do it so it's like you know fight I tried this thing and it's at I have no friends like well thanks a lot Apple -- had no friends on paying I had but I don't friends than -- on -- -- that's my screen up there -- You have -- yeah all. The only way to get friends think it's gonna bite them by email. This is not how you start a social network from zero rank well if you also have that auto matching feature to anywhere they can -- randomly choose so -- fee to play a -- Yeah like I wanna do that practice and I wanna play games view is this the chat roulette of gaming well -- right now. Anyway thank you for listening -- Thank you for ranking -- However there is good news in the Apple world remember that. When I was four came out they disabled field tests so the only could see the signal strength on your phone with the use the bars which are not calibrated anything -- completely made up as we all know. In four point one you can now re enable field test and replace. The -- Which don't mean anything with an actual DB gain a lot EB loss in. And it's quite an easy thing to do you just put in the code in you dial code and -- it replaces the bars. With -- be number. And temporarily -- yet very temporarily it's completely nondestructive doesn't. Hacker break anything you hit the home button or something and it goes away yeah so you can now you can now see how bad the antenna -- is. In numbers can you set up he had the code is -- -- speed dial. You don't seem oddly you know I tried because I did the thing. And I got and I got the the deviant and and when it might call list because I wanted to add written and wasn't in my resets. I mean should just. In other -- we talked a lot yesterday of course about. Google instinct which is the thing where I go to school but -- -- part but if you go to google.com. And you start type the search it'll just you know give you -- -- there's -- welcome party come. Google is not the only company making search news. Yesterday we learned that you can now hand write your searches and Yahoo! Taiwan and Hong Kong. In. Various geographic ranges of Chinese which is kind of fun you can -- That's handwriting recognition you you you write your your character button and it with suggestions India what they think that care I have no idea what these that it's -- -- I don't know what they're for. I won't -- image search version of this. Where you draw like a little yeah Apple's future heavily but you gotta match and actually and they're sold them all I didn't you see can you drop Paris Hilton hopeful -- like that -- back. That weird random sprawling that I had given that windows you won't come up with imagery to help each. Anyway that's very cool because is very difficult to type. Apparently. In the -- geographic languages but if you can draw and then have a thing. I tried it of course and might hand eye coordination -- -- to -- announces rather war. I imagine there may be people who are used to these character sets that are better at it I hope so men like it work. Yeah head I imagine out here riding with Jerry you're drawing these things with the amounts to I was pretty -- that never seems to work well if you have a good touch screen -- -- machine -- and I'm actually being being good for it especially if it fits -- Come multi character keyboard that just wouldn't. Would fill out. The touch screen device anyway -- being able to this kind of you know. Trying to character -- -- it would probably get the job done quickly and more quickly and and natural keyboard and I mean obviously it makes virtual more fun when you're drawn. At -- -- on search it it. We have been. Somewhat remiss I believe in the last week or so in our coverage of windows phone it's not -- -- Rafe. Really if if my interest in these stories pop up and crap like every day and Molly and -- man. Windows phone seven yes it's coming yes and the latest news and so we're doing it today. The latest news rumored reports that are is that it's coming October 11. That we will get windows phones there and when that's what's -- -- -- right now now now. Pretty -- -- -- it and you're going back to -- -- thing you -- talk about -- gaining in -- probably links -- really well as Xbox -- connect it to eight -- Xbox -- profiles and you know what you do with your Xbox Live profile and a little while having no idea -- playing Xbox game model phone. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- understand I'm surprised that if this is -- that the windows phone seven is gonna launch October 11 button. At the ramping up from Microsoft has been. Now why it yeah make just as from reporting on things like the Mac side Zune Zune HD things like that that have happened around this time of year. There's usually like -- really well organized. You know hit buying out of media and and and they're usually build in the sizzled the product right now it has it's happened seems. May viewers like a day ahead of when it's gonna start happening and we know build up for this right now the but do you think. May be that the Microsoft mobile guys are just a little bit but he adapter you know McCain disaster him. And of the -- not being work should be if they undercover and it's awesome. It look better -- over covering it and yet. Going -- two months later I could see that I also I think that you need to build enthusiasm for something that people and -- Nick develop more making applications or -- not talking about got to get the developers trial right charge and then those people need to believe that this phone is going to do well. And that Microsoft is behind it is going to advertising try to sell as many as possible -- If they can again on board with it but. Also this is a consumer when people are excited about I need advertising to convince -- to be more excited about buying new gadgets I'm -- I do. And I need -- even think -- -- -- commercials were the hits is on the bus and connecting the that was. Any Microsoft has actually a recent history of making some pretty even though. But the turtle phone whenever that was can phones -- fraternal -- My however is convinced released a minute before I am convinced there -- -- that that was apology needed to buy really I mean marketing I think you're pretty good job and is surprised they're not. You know marketing -- out Microsoft does a good job I think -- I think from the mobile products and have me in recent memory of the just thinking and thinking and -- in HD. Now if what if I was working -- Microsoft and had some responsibility for this phone's market success then I don't know what I would do because you've got. Apple -- which is powerhouse and then you've got the world being carpet bombed by Android phones. Which Verizon notwithstanding. -- the good operating system. Good features and developers are excited about it. And where it how do you fit in the consumer's mind how do you fit the Windows 7 phone line. In when already that consumers are confused about you know these two major consumer platforms and of course -- -- web OS and Blackberry. And to an extent in -- Nokia phones as well I mean. How do you get people charged up about yet another platform which is there a rehash and a completely new interface from the old Microsoft platform. Which was never really loved by users -- I don't think that not trying to his strategy he he -- the -- I don't have the answer -- Hampshire I'm sure Microsoft would love to have. I've been found by answer -- that I don't think that is one but. I mean the other thing and Microsoft have the history of doing is launching products and then just throwing money at eight. And years and years and years and slowly building up you know some and some strength in the market for in the product. And that -- -- be that that the path when the phones and I understand your point about the give them to teenage tried it with him yet -- and -- -- -- teenagers because there that's where brand preferences start now. So much -- with our phone prices going going to happen and man what a challenge. It looks like a good that its platform a really does I really do like the the non physical you know trying to -- the physical you -- I think it's really pretty but with the right. A little follow up here we were talking about Craig's list censoring the adult services section and then. The attorney general Blumenthal. It's saying that's not enough -- got really taken panel finally this morning we're learning that Craig's list has removed the censored bar from the adult services. Section and they're just. -- -- So it's -- that if there's nothing to city with an update -- that Matt's message is removed from although -- still reiterated it. The stories of course are popping up that those ads are now popping up in other places of course which was -- on Craig's. And being quickly removed -- -- of community does which was of course the big. Complaint going for at the beginning was that if you. Take away this kind of market. For these. For the that but the show elsewhere on the terms of announcements like this that is apparently what's happening so the heart -- network for. For prostitutes. Who know and I'm not gonna go and that. The Kindle. Will show up in best buy this fall which is interesting because best buy already sells other. Electronic bookstore it'll -- alongside Sony Reader devices and the Barnes & Noble book. This is a good thing I mean this is something in people always wanna do it it is compared. Eva meters to each other and in -- in -- store setting them. Instead it is -- mean and I'm planning instead of researching you -- on CNET you know and one of the many as one of many business. -- out actually walk into a store and you know figure out. Can see them all in person fair which when you're gonna go with this equipment and the more that are available us completely -- by the better known and also the more we'll get her -- yeah for the heart which is great. Because these -- these products need to be cheap to compete against the full featured tablets. And -- and I wanted to -- -- little reading chairs test them at best buy now. Only their electric I think wanted to in -- out of those -- so -- bad economic bets are very comfortable that I think that if and then -- interval -- they of the blue shirts combined thing I miss it for anybody who profit. There are good ones are good ones -- -- from the department of what could possibly go wrong. Quite literally -- that explosion. There are story is coming in that FaceBook integration is coming to. On -- A car based platform or. Communication location and apps. -- about this is the sit right with I don't believe it's actually excited about until the -- division in my head of like me like crashing the cars in the united bank instantly update make it Smith that is that -- Colorado around I didn't acknowledge this manage traffic -- Well yeah oh it is that tied in the GPS. And gets a camera. Actually could be as you were saying -- It would not be such a terrible thing in your car you're pulling into -- in and out drive and writing say I'm talking in the in and out right at that was that was the one thing on the back and actually -- can cover more ground that way if I if I have a social life at all. It is the -- and a we drive an apartment looked like. And also says that it will read aloud FaceBook status updates -- That don't CNN don't buy it -- won't be distracting you're going through I -- it. -- hadn't checked in on my friends' walls and -- you'll have to -- it's. If people English which happy birthdays and on my birthday sequence tests and -- might make you can program -- that. Last -- they ever. Anyway. The world's wealthy the I'm entry. And we if too if. -- stories here finally about what's happening in the world of media -- might be a little inside baseball some people but but I find the stuff that thing. The AP the Associated Press has traditionally not been very open and embracing the blog -- -- The latest news coming out of AP though is that they're going to begin crediting bloggers as news sources when bloggers. AK amateur hour thank you. Start breaking news. This is that this is an important change as for the AP to recognize the news -- come from January from people who aren't officially. Journalists. But -- I think that's actually very exciting and important news. With the -- also is when these things where. If if tech journalism means that much don't. And system and -- the deal applies it to leave that oftentimes. A lot of the -- the reliable leaks. Come to smaller -- no -- it. Oh my -- -- via iPhone for not while iPhone for being famous example games like the iPod Touch camera. You know and that the leaked photos are on -- they'll they'll be on sun known inside out and we'll malware and well it it turned out to be legitimate right the thing is that. Real journalists you know trained professionals you know this is our job journalists we get tips from everywhere and there -- no filter we that you just because it came from. You know. Whoever doesn't mean it's not possibly -- the differences that. A and I -- -- word. You know advisedly a professional journalists somebody who is trained who has you know editors breathing down -- -- about -- -- with that is going to take that hit wherever came from and check. -- and reported at either fact or or whatever. All the -- is saying here is that when we get this tip. And we check it out if it verifies. -- credit will credit the person got that or the source we got it from which is the right thing to do for any journalist no matter what the source it. -- -- -- In other interesting. Media news Arthur Sulzberger -- I think the president of the new York times company. Says. Eventually the New York Times will be forced to stop publishing a printed paper. What is. Which. Here inside CNET. CBS interactive is like well yeah -- Miami I'm an already -- -- went -- -- it should do it already but obviously at some point. Printed newspapers going to go way they exchange but for the in New York Times to actually recognize this and say and public use and in the big deal. Man -- and I'm sure -- it is already people who aren't as very -- newspapers you -- -- their eyes in right. The -- -- and say win. But obviously the cost structure of a printing the physical infrastructure printing becomes. A diminishing audience and increasingly expensive -- news is put out on electronic devices just instantly. But maybe he's saying that -- gonna -- with. Whatever adding that the point the point is that -- A journalistic enterprise like New York Times there are product. Is not newspapers the product is news content. And they in -- Wednesday. You have to agree that the newspaper's business is not. It is to put the content out and put it wherever people are not force people to come to where they are. I'm just so I I think that was visionary. Kind of obvious from from people who work on line exclusively. But I'm glad to see them well. How come back to hold my breath for print and print -- -- come -- and like a post apocalyptic future. You're holding your breath for the apocalypse yes. I think that's where a lot of interesting animation and it. He had to a necessity as mother and it after all we have aptly. If you have then they need the necessity of being a yeah -- -- the dance floor than you might interest -- in this report. From -- scientists. The published in the Royal Society journal biology letters. Researchers of the north Umbria university Newcastle studied. Dance moves. Scientifically. And figured out which moves attract the ladies -- the it's stunning men. Which was attract the ladies and -- -- Which moves and kind of attitudes on the dance or do not and have come up with them -- videos. This reminds me of the dancing baby ideas. Let me they had that they had to remove any kind of any of advice you might have by mapping and -- let -- model. He can't I think there are active gob smacked by it that is that would not do it for me but then I'm -- what going to show the one of how not to -- Donald dancing. -- this is me. The key thing here. -- low energy looking down the floor away like you're looking for your keys. But you drop somewhere yeah that's not getting innately picture -- -- frank when you need him. I indicated in. A while other is they rank how to dance. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I tried it. We got some voicemails today if you'd like percent of the voicemail call 1800 excellent -- -- experience -- 800 X six see any. See any he tried he photographers seconds -- Sam on Google instant. -- and Salt Lake City. Almost all in all mobile so it wouldn't stint on both history question yet although my first thought -- well along and did some testing. From -- show -- in north history. If you leave it for three seconds. And it's also councils and impression on the network side so. Three sanctions and it's -- search and it'll actually say that in your web history so until the actual searches and insurgents. And that's -- Richard. -- -- we were asked about that yesterday know what does instant search your web history so as per second so if you. And as mean Miller wrote to us about you know you want to make -- nuclear tied and that something rather than to making new week. And it it it and -- -- seconds it'll fill them nuclear weapon -- you don't want that you're gonna and then the FBI's not commanded or right that's the game doesn't somebody just make sure not appalled at the end on the audio side. You can -- total will begin that search just how to finish it. Here but -- -- -- -- and ad impression thing or is it. It's more about history I think Google makes its money -- advertising. More from click throughs so that's available for those -- up and make money because. The payment the trend that advertising and -- happens when people click on. So -- I think it's more about making history useful for you although there probably is I don't know enough about who -- note if there are impression based. Money transfer of problems source metrics are definitely statistics going back and forth about that yet. I must -- speaking of which we got an email here from Eric the proud monkey thing try typing in I hate for Google instant. And you'll get no results. -- excluding some phrases against from the in answer he actually were trying to come up with the list. So if you type in a -- see as we discussed yesterday the instant results page goes blank. You you could be typing in future you know because he's openness but anyway. But -- -- results with it yet if you see -- you -- you might it but I guess maybe there. If you type in is another one which. Yet he took it -- -- loved. You'll get a whole page of events. Resulting -- and I hate you get nothing. It's very sad if you have a name that is can be confused with a dirty word means you'll get nothing a reader let's keep. -- a well known TV tech journalist then nothing for her and port thing man because of her and her name. Anyway. Alright we got an email from James -- field engineer. -- says -- yesterday's episode the count 34 K wrote in an email that -- convenience store was getting a blue box. Are chain of grocery stores and gas stations have them. Have had them for -- now and I love them I have Netflix at home to get my new releases for just one dollar at the blue box. They're constantly new movies like routes for a movie on my phone and see which kiosk has -- in stock and reserve right then. The best feature by far is that I can return the movie to any yes I happen to be near on a particular day. They seem to be set up for Blu-ray but have never had any health -- an interesting side note is that they all seem to be owned by the AT and division of NCR maybe they just license the blockbuster name. I sent -- email alerts. And get a free or buy one get one free or for just let every week. And Jason good -- new -- thank you James. James yeah I believe you're right we got another email from that saying that indeed. This. Things being run by its little division of -- and blockbusters. Has only licensing agreement so little news on the and that's it for today that is it's. Just be done you can now find out all the information about the shows -- all the other shows and pretty much any other details about but a lot -- dot cnet.com. And don't we probably am and today while one other showed you do. I do a little show on Tuesday is called. 30. Cray doesn't like kind of like the -- -- -- the great -- it's them it's it's it's my -- the attempt at a podcast. Only mean things that aren't. Like just gimmickry and amusement for mean. That's basically all the case -- robots all the kickers that would be on buzz out loud to -- rolled into one show we're gonna lap that stuff and try to keep shortening. Excellent the function. By then also on CNET -- Apple's soon to be -- -- on our best stuff. And Beth hey -- don't want that week I only did show us I can do the -- sit and this myself think for the great -- I'll do it we still I -- to do interesting stuff that you know make them. That's the good good -- for -- if there thanks to me I'm sure that. -- if I'm wrong.