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Ep. 1290: Android says, Talk to me, baby
-- Thursday August 12.
When he technologies now I'm Donald well I'm rate it'll have up to buzz out loud cnet's podcast of indeterminate length episode 1290. Low.
And breaking news this.
-- that's -- -- -- still have been threatening -- on -- news -- broke our man on this on the Google -- current president that the Google -- Francisco office right now getting all these -- about Google's new.
Fancy mobile announcement it's called.
Guests speak it.
It's it's it's a voice app for Android actually looks pretty cool it's just we're just getting news about this now there are just the article -- actions -- actions are the headline is just began its so -- -- -- this product they're still coming up with a product today speaking -- just think it's -- jobs -- police action sounds I speak right with annoying little Google Android --
If you doing actually a pretty compelling demo of this app that. You can do things like.
Heck you can send SMS is you can set alarms you can play music obviously can call people obviously.
Basically in them almost control everything on your phone by voice.
Yeah I just expands the current voice action kind of abilities in the -- you could do some stuff with -- before that there were a lot of things you couldn't do now.
It seems like you did say you know instead of knowing the address to a particular place you it.
Navigate to McDonald's -- Cisco and it'll find it and navigate human -- fell swoop or you could send text messages somebody.
And you can also say smiley face at the end of it and it'll actually put an emoticon in here.
Well but you don't actually have to smile part of me that you don't and if you actually intend how -- -- about an hour as my next -- -- -- all these actions and it's like.
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And you can't really -- -- and goes all cut all caps the act had not yet.
This isn't like how how diseases really we were expecting an announcement today from Google this is kind of in that in the range of things that we would want to hear from and -- -- one and then.
Animal let them well you know they did that Google San Francisco as opposed to cool Mountain View which shows you their higher in their hierarchy of how important it is now they don't do the big super cool stuff in San Francisco.
Right that's just downstream it's small and how often do people really -- -- -- season features and on my old.
Shared I mean and that the repertoire of other voice control features you have voice vote on the matter -- than I can be sending emails on driving.
And -- have to say this.
I use Google Voice a lot it is a great service and has its transcription feature -- -- -- it will.
Take voice --
And give you text versions of them which are hilariously. Wrong with -- an I don't know how they are going if they've improved that good if not you're gonna be doing voice to SMS messages.
That -- going to come out.
Like people are gonna be gobbled -- and divorce rate really doesn't out of -- night.
So it's kind of like Newton poetry remember they'll knew you would write something into account with -- actual words but we like works out that had no sense honey Semitic text message to pick up airline had 'cause -- you -- it it.
And -- dictating collective efficacy. That is the only announcement actually they health and candidates spend expanded.
A little bit too I guess officially introduce the Google Chrome to phone which allows you to install an extension on your browser and a computer and your Chrome browser.
And then you also have to installing application. From the phone on Android phone and then now -- -- can sync up your browser -- -- -- is that.
And ability that kind of came when it for a Leo she didn't use doesn't Chrome now have cross browser cross.
Across the vice -- if you've got the machines and synchronize your your and we bookmark at least so.
I -- agreement that's huge Chrome.
Off that's actually really that kind of stuff is really useful when people start to work on more than one machine wants -- -- environment with them it's also one of those sticky features -- once -- get used to it he kind of don't want to go back you know yeah I don't moderates and touted the need to get used to using it but then once you do like about that now there's another thing that wooten did make -- -- but I'm throwing it in here which we -- -- -- so -- is the thing you were showing -- which is.
Google gesture thing.
They now this thing on Android phones where you can easily turn on the --
Function -- is the service that.
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The keyboard and buttons but.
Kind of more part of your body and talk to that you and gesture to -- not all kinds of programs more opportunities you only get tossed out of hand onto the concrete can -- more needed a new phone but hey if you happen to be millions of Android phones out there and choose -- -- and always.
That's -- on sidewalks --
Now we go to the Google Android phone strap business and yeah could have done it the bungee risk cord.
Then if if that -- -- are moving on to other mobile companies Apple.
After the first -- -- is -- mobile Apple -- is according to and gadget.
The new Apple TV will be called the I PV big surprise right and will be an Iowa device basically an -- -- and iPad will at a screen.
It'll have an app store you -- up -- TV be able to watch your your media on it.
And weirdly it won't -- have 1080.
Right you'll -- seventh when -- so the current Apple TV is full HD right.
And if with it with content that supports that yet but this new version will be -- -- you know.
Which is they're saying the rumors are the things with the album within my team at the -- doesn't support it but still like only composite out the only -- Apple TV -- -- and I don't believe me I know because I have a TV that doesn't have HDMI or anything you know high -- in it -- and I can't use an Apple TV on it because you there is no composite them MPV it's the only.
Yeah I think it's it sounds cool especially if it's like the hundred dollar a you know Apple TV set top box which really has.
Enough content to be compelling enemies those a product that's been not really flying off the shelves for Apple. The 720.
Reason I think that that's not a big deal or that I can see why they would do that.
Is it with it would make it's any content you can of buying.
You really -- -- that seemed content and -- -- could right now almost all of the Apple device they're gonna support.
That kind of format.
Probably rightly the same seventh when he.
-- get the Apple TV you can build hopefully they but I I've.
I -- iPod Touch and all that.
I think these days if you buy its set top box for living room hooked up your pants HTTP you want to take advantage of everything your TV does -- all the content that is out there and -- -- you want that so.
Limiting at an Apple product limiting the resolution of content this is -- video only we're hearing from term expert.
Not not photos just --
Are I think that's kind of a problem actually do.
Can I am also axiom Medvedev decided that and its firm whenever I download something McMahon Xbox as -- something on the -- -- Netflix and it's like just.
The amount of time involved like I I don't I would rather get something -- haven't when he and get it quickly and wait for 1080.
You know movie to download.
For hours and hours you know and there could be -- it back this up that like what we have the 1080 out there but people just aren't using it like we thought they would.
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I know Apple's excuse -- -- -- -- I just hope that has the -- surround sound as well.
And and there's the minor correction here I mean you wrongly Apple he he might actually -- -- clinic that does have composite yeah so.
That's that's tonight -- on Danny mile high Def content in on my crappy 27 or if they can also get content partnership -- because this -- the rumors that Apple's been working on that subscription. TV content.
Idea or like the really little -- I just and that this might actually be part of part of the launch of that yet and maybe every fifteen to 720 years maybe part of the agreement making them now you know -- I'm not -- and I I don't know why they would do -- -- from the fact that they think that there hardware won't support high Def.
And full full HD and they'll upgrade it with them when when they can from cost -- you might yet or make it yet feature for the next generation.
With that should -- TV I ever okay.
Everybody everybody should also think I should get a raise the my --
Apple has finally come out with -- four point 02 for the iPhone and Iowa freedom to got to for the iPad.
Major security patch there will no longer allow the PD FX what you get through and remember the PDF that's what is what let jailbreak -- -- work.
So you can no longer jailbreak your phone by visiting a website and selecting the slider now -- new deal that doesn't mean you can't just let the phone that's right now that -- yet.
That's that's actually an important security hole to patch because that PDF that's what was really major have been around for awhile I guess that took the jail for eight.
To be out in -- while -- -- -- -- sale you know it's not at that again.
And we have more Apple -- after the break stay tuned just two more Apple -- -- lot of other stuff when we come back.
So now remember awhile ago that somebody did this really cool I think with a flashlight app that had a hidden feature.
-- I had hidden feature of actually being a -- right yes we could use this last night -- hit the right combination of things and you would then have.
A Internet tether on your phone and Apple didn't take very content that -- killed that one of states.
Now they -- you lived without the flash laid out -- -- there's another anyway but doesn't Heather.
So another company has come up with product with a little hidden feature it was the company was tapped.
Tap tap and the app was called camera plus was a little camera for two bucks.
-- -- the ultimate photo app and it had a hidden feature which is if you went to certain website did this certain thing the right way it would enable this feature in the app that lets you use.
The volume up down buttons as the shutter release for the camera.
Which sounds pretty cool.
Apple says no and it -- that -- to write to which I say Apple c'mon what -- I can understand them killing the tethering app and that that that was just so clever --
Come yeah valuable.
-- however -- you -- to visit a website and it and you don't know the secret way to activate this feature right and Apple says right in their agreement they say you know if there's an Easter egg Easter -- -- great thing if they're there let us know about that we -- -- that we promised not to tell anybody.
Don't tell us about it we will pull you're out and -- it -- a bad precedent.
I can understand from Apple's mind in that sense but it is is silly but I mean what if there's a version of this that has that Easter -- but you can't undo.
The fact that the -- Biden is now via.
The shutter release you know fine if you're running I mean on I think -- product quality control on the Atlantic and then I guess the question is have they added this is functionality and out to be in width and -- upfront about it would Apple have.
-- against the probably so because they probably don't want there are.
I remember when they get -- the pictures leave of the iPhone Ford design and everyone thought that the volume buttons words like the campaign buttons didn't -- it -- those can be volume buttons it's very an Apple actually add buttons -- -- I didn't believe that marriage.
I was wrong and in good Apple news -- patent gate there of the recent.
Patent application that without that software where they showed this -- two app and it looked like they were stealing where to.
In their patent application well they've made Apple has made clear that that was an example.
That the patent had nothing to do with where to and that they think where two or providing -- -- it was pain in the compliment right.
And where to has finally said well thank you -- now they've got all this this this publicity right more than adding now they're happy at first they were like.
And I'm like yeah and it a lot of publicity proposal that's. -- right that's it that's it'll -- all them.
You imminently look. That's it for Apple announcement -- other stuff backed Android Andreas and Sony you -- -- one certain -- Sony Ericsson is.
Is there is a rumor announce -- report by engadget that Sony is going to be introducing or Sony Ericsson going to be introducing and -- point oh gaming phone that's gonna be.
Hybrid between Android and a like a PSP go out am so this is a mock up.
Of what. That's faking it -- irritating thing that is the supposedly echo company's slide out Dili.
But a little touch strip control.
And the other kind of I mean is introducing the sense that.
So he's been really late in the game as far as making. An Android -- -- -- Ericsson product.
Better they'll look for three current three point oh academia man could be -- -- is also interesting that -- in there might be more phones that can take advantage of the PlayStation Portable -- gaining.
-- -- -- --
But they have to meet the spec that as Sony is kind of producing for the that it probably -- direction -- and -- that -- -- -- -- Sony has suspect.
For an Android device.
As far as the boot big details on this and are concerned it says he had -- the and as far as the integration with the PlayStation games the PlayStation Portable games from.
The bit over the course always trying to integrate Android with PSP --
Man so it's the if you think it's of gaming angle for its own media artists that actually makes.
The story much more interest think -- this is not just any company making a gaming because.
Android is is -- -- -- we know it looks like it will be a very decent gaming platform -- -- -- screens multiple controls its that are.
It for Sony.
Sony Ericsson -- in his -- at the start is interesting because of their gaming history in their legacy of software right you mind games ran --
Talk to less he had -- to talk to a school we can make this happen we can bring that that PlayStation Portable came forward and -- that we need to have some kind of you know.
It could good interest in this to from -- from -- -- -- then meanwhile Google ventures not Google itself but Google ventures was at the venture arm.
Google so they have money to invest on behalf of of Google but they're not like in the building.
Is investing in in -- -- which is a mobile.
-- and iPhone game developer or. Mobile game developer so I presume that and you know cope with global money will soon be doing a lot more Android world.
They actually have the number two. IPad. Game right now we are right yeah dealt that I think -- Google -- finger.
Let's see -- -- refuse to play and it'll the name I -- not flag got to make -- anything name got fingers got to be pretty cool.
Is that that is gotten kind of boring but --
But yeah I I think this is again.
Dual realizing that what people are to being with these new spending their time on the Smartphones with -- gaming.
And that's something that this the little we point four for Android wooden.
And -- -- right three point oh will support larger -- -- pad at sized devices.
In -- quick headline news. Last night we saw a story that there was some very majors privacy breach in FaceBook where if you.
Tried to log in with anybody's email address that within FaceBook maybe not even need say electric log in with one of your email writers may be united when used -- -- -- just made -- the -- where.
And I would see you or full name.
And your picture you.
So with a big security holes reported yesterday it has been fixed apparently I try to help that my picture has my FaceBook password written across it says that -- -- use it against yet.
Anyway so that's been.
Fixed but it apparently affected all 500. Million. FaceBook users.
I wonder how long that was around that was just like an eight -- glitch or that with the bug that was just discovered anyway.
Now gone if you try to put in so if you when somebody's email address into FaceBook. And the wrong password it'll take you to -- --
Moments stocking it now have to happen much more complicated -- sorry about that old it's time for -- on the Dell streak which is apparently a very cool device.
Is available both on contract for 250 bucks. Eighteen he.
And also off contract for 549 dollars but the off contract version still -- -- yet there's no reason anyone would buy.
What exactly it -- just -- if the RRA.
A -- eighteenth he cart there might use the local services now it's only eighteen -- only eighteen to 949 bucks.
-- and and yet say it's gonna work with T-Mobile and and yet it's it's.
It's kind of a lame. Lame thing and that's year -- just those totally okay with getting it to forty.
-- the 249 contract when you when people.
I don't even know why -- bother.
I mean it looks like the device and that say -- or is it to -- 219. Well this -- this if we're gonna and we said yesterday to 99 I don't know which it is but whatever I mean its its its.
You know it's it.
It's a it's a cool -- enormous phone I think it'd be surprised that still it's those shipping with Android one point six. Yes but over the air upgrade will be available they say yeah now -- -- yeah yeah -- --
I believe them but it still like Aspen 249 dollars and Android one point to devise some -- be cool path that truly heart of the art it's it's like I said with a menuing that -- put. It I just pissed it's -- an obvious and anywhere it.
Some small device more -- that Dell has other cool devices coming out the -- thunder. This is smaller than the stream.
As it makes it easy. But -- nod my -- -- I guess if this is. -- streak right.
Yet it is like but he says the Android it is said that -- -- apparently got two point one thing.
Four point one it's displaying. Its and the media and -- led displaying this kind of the gases that are going around.
Yeah it's it's not it's more than a Smartphone not quite a tablet less than that streak.
Martha more than a Smartphone. It's four point one inches actually now. I mean there -- devices the size of dinner buffet of protecting.
Not as yet not damage it so -- basically trying to do. Devices every half inch -- present in their right to it and I'm.
They've done exactly I would medium yeah a mini mall mall publicizing mini determined to be totally awkward and I'm gonna try to light judges this flexible device -- that thing I'd like.
I'm -- -- -- now -- I totally want that it's like huge.
Now I thought the holographic you know projection device to.
Yeah. In science well not really science that is generally -- if you're swimming kickers -- and kick --
This is that cute little story and discovery somebody has finally re engineered the casket.
There as in the -- and the thing your buried him yet if it in when I read read the story aside from players -- regard and anyway.
It makes perfect sense so the traditional casket is you know horizontal via.
And -- -- takes up a lot of surface based on on the ground he got it when you gotta be a edited the right -- there's a lot more grounded.
That's right so that you as -- plays electric keys in the copping you got again yet -- all undo all that bring it back then.
Except if it can't hit it it.
So that though it basically looks like we've reinvented the -- the chart for an opera and about pronounced and this people have developed this coffin which is.
Vertical with screw threads on -- right so you puts the body and an easy thing glory and it around you twist it into the ground.
And has a little.
Like plaque -- -- over the top and you can basically put more people in the ground display although I believe I have it on a physics on this but I believe the torque required.
Screw something this -- into the ground right if it's anything. Like real --
Would be pretty massive I could see it that like construction workers -- request this method -- my right -- is like really into.
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Yeah exactly the swan dive into the hull patent math isn't it -- --
That's another thing way eat you realize all the logic in like this guy's very logical it's is that Spock design copy because it makes the most sense C you know it's the least amount of kind of materials and accurate -- to get that the confidence of the ground -- low.
Who wants to be buried vertically I was gonna say it -- want their loved one to be slumped over in some weird yeah and honesty and your entire afterlife in standing position yen as opposed to it was on the -- and -- -- -- -- -- -- them.
It's like that the that's a good -- the -- to be -- head down.
-- -- the and and I think it's it's actually kind of cool but is losing wiping a motion more than anything will override you know it added practicality of the solution you know it is it's that kind of the -- when we're looking for stories and -- was -- -- we do.
That's whether there I actually really like the story.
Yeah and -- you hit the nail on the head can topic jar it's not intended. Now you can now -- -- go to.
That provide any benefit.
If that's right. Thanks -- -- stand in peace and those are -- -- -- today if you have some something to say to us to make it short make a pit the and send and voice mail it to us calls up at 800.
It's on six CNET that's 806 and 62638. We do have email -- that's right we do Simon.
As -- -- -- I totally agree with your comments regarding users blindly clicking yes to -- your request.
When installing Android applications unfortunately.
The currently permissions are handled as a man at all in one step at install time pretty much encourages users not to paid to.
Page due care and attention to what they're doing actually very similar to kind of like the the -- that pop up on -- and --
Can I suggest an alternative. As an Android developer I'd much prefer to control win permission requests are made myself.
Formica does anything requiring extra permissions it would make an Android OS call to ask for them.
Requests would therefore appear to the user in context as the -- -- for example permission to access TV SD card would only be -- the first time -- apps backup feature was tried.
If requests appeared as the Apple is used I suspect more attention would be paid to them.
It would be easier to spot suspicious behavior and users could continue using -- -- even if they denied the necessary permissions for specific feature.
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That makes perfect sense this kind of like what windows -- -- where exactly that they'll warnings come up -- you're using the app not as you install it.
Again the thing that gets me about -- are really like this idea and there's more windows that okay you only it is but is also in context as Simon Says.
The thing that -- -- I would like to see I don't know -- this is actually possible is when you see that warning pop up.
So -- -- app wants to use and use your location data or access your address book or whatever.
That it tells you what happens if you don't.
So I can say okay you know I like this -- but I just don't want to know where I am so I think though and it'll say you say no then you'd disable these features but you get everything else I'd like the kind of prime fine grain control I think we're moving in the direction in in the world of of technology privacy controls -- -- -- things really necessary.
Just the broad.
Sure can do everything is just it's too dangerous yeah but it still even make the point by point kind of checking in acute fear of freedom but but when I never any time.
Yet not every time it still requires a sophistication on the path to the user to know what --
Well what saying okay or no means right -- have to explain yap and its its.
We'll walk across the street you need this this case and know that car's -- in this country come from the right I mean there's things you need to know to live in a technological society yes and today we need to know how to be safe.
With art are.
Online devices -- saying if the rapid growth of Smartphones has to be explained it also has to accommodate the fact there's probably a lot of idiots using Smartphones.
-- -- -- think Libya they thought they sell them media phone and then and it doesn't fit Vista.
-- headlines around the block for the -- and F and if I don't want. Supposed to remain. 09 mimic the yet those of that -- tough sell actually might -- itself notes -- -- reality and it is then.
Are right Tyler writes to us from Florida FaceBook railing against the cool Verizon deal isn't the first laps and evil by FaceBook that was -- -- yesterday.
Their first -- and evil was when Mark Zuckerberg donated money to the Casper project -- with the open source social network then but glad to see FaceBook doing something right even though like -- real news Twitter of the show.
That's an interesting point though you've gotta wonder with with Zuckerberg when when you put money into that currently don't Hamachi within that I -- -- -- myself from them those kind of you know.
And a nice but you gotta wonder if that's keeping your enemies close that there right.
Also but the pace the carrot when in fact I use like -- southern accent from my immediate impression and in -- oh yeah out of this mind.
You're -- to get sent to and you Vietnamese move along their unit and out of -- there's really nothing can do I can hit it and further you -- a -- -- Buckley.
Get so lucky from the chat -- we've got my back and share from its saying an episode 1289 you guys are talking a possibility checking -- down the road for FaceBook damage in the privacy aspect in terms of data mining we'll hear from that angle to those concerns as well.
Is a story here is saying that authorities blame FaceBook for recent burglaries saying. That.
-- some some burglars were actually waiting for people to update their FaceBook status is is here.
You know going out of house and providing them an opportunity now -- -- -- that -- -- -- time still and all my stuff.
And it's and apparently -- the golden now has to really you know make sure your opinion piece but that is not Cuba.
That's -- give away.
That picture out -- -- -- this is what I just had this.
What -- -- -- if you're going to be using online services that broadcast your information or whatever you've got to know who can possibly see it.
FaceBook needs to do better job of educating future -- of of the 500 million users that it had.
It's fair to say that -- eighths.
A statistically significant portion of them are idiots reflections -- three hit hit hit the west Clifford dude I totally updated my FaceBook status has gone surfing all week and and now I don't just go and beginning what's what's actually -- -- editor -- well legal opportunity offensive music can you do can you do. And -- -- -- pressure.
You -- Canada.
It -- -- people -- have to be careful I mean it with FaceBook basically defaulting to wide open their applications.
This is an issue so if yen hopefully you know all the people that your friends but like no no yeah all they had to -- the FaceBook I'm close personal friends that everyone of them I didn't know who -- they. Do I have to say this -- -- apparently have a few minutes I did a story awhile ago because. See that the rescue somebody --
If you log onto FaceBook from an ailing computer -- you go on vacation -- -- of somebody else's computer or your -- mother ship or whatever.
It might ask you for an extra level of authentication and one of those levels of authentication you give it.
After you enter in your username a --
Is asking you to identify a friend then so it gives you a picture of somebody that is in your friend lists and that's who is if any with multiple joint list.
Now this works fine if their friends actually somebody who's.
-- you know but as Annie Miller though -- -- out of names so they put in at their avatar gummy bear this I don't -- to give -- another one and the next personal at a level.
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It it it. If you don't know all of your FaceBook friends right you can actually get locked out when you go on vacation because you can't identified company or if you.
Don't know their avatar or do I get a lot of friends who were in the -- -- and I guess like the one friend like -- that's gotta be John because he's the one -- the -- you can't turn into a I have -- -- the various anatomy and we all know that our analysts have nothing to do without a Blackberry users that's it.
Let's see earlier were talking about the I TV and how one of the things that might be coming to that sin is an app store that I TV landscape and so if you and I TV or really just any sort of Internet connected.
You know media player TV device whatever that could except apps.
What would you like to have access to on your TV and --
Big picture keep it really how they've cleaned it clean obviously I think that -- that it would I think about everything that we do at this point but. What apps would you like to see on your ITV send us a comment via Blackberry messenger -- and is 24523. -- 65.
-- and I gotta say you've -- Andrew that was coming up after this are gonna be talking about the new or you're gonna be talking about that new Google mobile stuff right.
Yeah we'll definitely be covering that.
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Yet we're bucking the trend we haven't had one last few days and I've -- hold -- to one have been kind of hoping that I collect a -- and you know it's definitely obviously slowed down but this one.
Is by someone who sent in few remixes in the past ten mile and very get a composition.
Jim calls this the -- answering next I call it the --
Consider -- -- -- is the Casio keyboard demo agreements.
-- you know I'm I'm now for both you guys yeah all this nutty idea as good as it has the main road ahead of the aren't of the same levels that are you know.
Advanced classes as well.
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CNN's. -- general -- -- as the chief yesterday's attack.
-- stuff very well written.
We need to work that into a demo.
On a keyboard so that when you go music you know keyboard shopping you could hit the demo button and now I think with the -- all button.
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