"Ep. 1281: Where we take our dosh to the bank"
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Ep. 1281: Where we take our dosh to the bank
-It's Tuesday, June 4th, 2013.
This is the 404 Show on cnet.com.
I'm Jeff Bakalar.
-I'm Justin Yu.
-I'm Richard Peterson.
-We're very lucky to have on the program once again, Ms.
-What is up Shanon?
How are you?
How are you guys?
You're a Spotify's trend expert.
You look fantastic as well.
-I wanna mention that--
-'Cause Shanon is--
-I made an effort for-- to the 404 guys.
-Oh, you don't have to do that for a little old us.
-Well I did--
-Shanon is a Spotify's trend expert and every time you come on the program you bring with you a very interesting list of the most viral Spotify songs.
-And so-- again, would you
have to like-- we have to reiterate, it's not so much the most played songs.
It's the most viral songs, the songs that have been seeping their way through the cracks and becoming very social and whatnot.
-Before we get to that list though.
We have to talk about something I think is such a brilliant idea.
You're sort of creating-- you're collecting the most misheard song lyrics of all time.
It's-- I always find it fun to talk about how people screw up the lyrics and songs.
That's the best part.
-And it's always-- it's always irritated me when my
Mom sings the wrong words or something from a song.
I'm sorry to call out my Mom.
-No, that's fine.
-She does it a lot.
So we're putting together this playlist of the most misquoted lyrics.
-And so we'd love people's input.
-I mean, it's basically every Pearl Jam song ever.
-It's like, it should be-- numbers 1 through 50, 'cause he's so-- he just like-- for like 4 minutes.
What is he's singing?
-I don't know.
-One of the-- when I was very little, I used to always
sing-- I don't know if you remember those a group called Hollywood Beyond from the UK.
They had like one hit song.
-Okay, what's the song?
-The hit song was What's the Color of Money, Money as in Dosh.
And I used to always--
-Wait, money as in what?
-Like dosh is money.
-You not say dosh--
-I thought money was money.
-Yeah, I thought money was money.
-You mean like cash.
-Dosh, cash, moola--
Not it's not--
-I never heard of that.
-Maybe dosh is a bit
-I always bring a new word to the table.
-It's freaking enlightening.
-Oh, it's freaking enlightening.
-Dosh-- how you spell it?
-Dosh-- I love it.
-Look-- someone-- it up 'cause now I'm worried that I'm totally screwing it up.
-Where should we-- is that in urban dictionary.
-Just Google dosh.
-Yeah, just Google dosh.
-Yeah, a slang term used for an amount of money.
There you go.
-Wow, we've gotten way off track.
-I think we have, but that's the beauty of it.
-The song is called, What's the Color of Dosh-- no, it's called What's the Color of Money.
-And I used to always sing
What's the Color of my Knee.
And I was convinced that was a-- and my Dad has a really cute story about when he was tiny, tiny todd and he was in Bible study class.
-He put his hand up one day and said to the teacher.
What's the Siknow?
She said, the what?
He said, the Siknow, like Jesus loves me this I know.
Which I thought was really cute.
So there just a couple of ridiculous
example of misquoted lyric.
That if any of your wonderful audience or members out there had better examples please--
-We already got one that's fantastic and I couldn't agree more.
Lenny Kravitz, Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy.
-That's a great one.
-I mean, hey, he's gotta kiss this guy.
Hold on a second, let me go and kiss this guy.
Just bare with me, I'm gonna make out with my buddy Larry.
That's pretty good.
-Probably not a second date after that.
It was over
If you have more of these misheard lyrics, send them into us and tweet them to Shanon that's @ShanonCook with one "N", so do that and--
-Nothing's too weird.
-Nothing-- no way.
It's gonna be nothing but weird.
I mean, no one ever hears-- you know, I guess maybe-- I feel like Bohemian Rhapsody has a lot of that too.
-Actually, Googling-- doing a bit of a Google or misquoted lyric list that are already out
there, that song came up a lot.
-What about Manfred Mann, Blinded By The Light.
Revved up like--
-Like a douche.
-Like a douche--
-What was the word for that?
-I think it's a deuce.
I think it describing an engine?
I don't know.
I don't know-- I'm not gonna be like 100 percent sure about that.
Revved up like a deuce.
It sounds like he's saying that for sure.
-That's what it sounds like.
-It just can get pretty revved up.
-You know-- I mean, that's what it is.
-There was a song-- remember the song, that song One Step Closer by Linkin' Park?
It's like, Everything you say to me.
I'm one step closer to the edge and I'm about to break?
-I was thought it was, I'm one step closer to the hedge and I'm about to rake.
It's like-- what this guy's singing about garden.
-It's so weird, yeah.
-Linkin' Park, well it's Linkin' Park--
-Yeah, that makes sense.
-I think we just-- I think we almost just got scraped together our top 10 playlist just now.
-Our work here is done.
There's a lot--
and also Joel brings up a great band to play with as well.
Red Hot Chili Peppers, bunch of misheard stuff.
Because the one thing about Red Hot is that, they're great band but their lyrics are absurd.
They're all-- they just rot, they just rhyme and that's what their lyrics are.
-And it doesn't really matter if you make the most.
-Exactly, because they're just--
-Probably want you to--
-I think they encourage it.
So, yeah I'm sure-- and I think a lot of Guns N' Roses will do it too.
-Because Axl just-- he was-- couldn't really tell what the hell is coming
out of his mouth either, you know, that's one of those.
-Well, and some artists change the lyrics.
-You know, from concert to concert.
-'Cause they-- often they forget them.
-They don't always use teleprompt 'cause the whole surprising number of the big name artists do have teleprompt.
-Yeah, I believe it.
-But you hear sometimes on stage.
I've heard Buno kinda mash up something.
-His lyrics [unk], hang on, did he just changed the song lately?
-I've heard that for sure.
And that-- you know, they also do the obligatory like they
changed, you know, the city name in their song to wherever they're playing.
-Yeah, of course.
-That's more of like a shtick thing but yeah, there's--
-That's just corny, isn't it.
-The shtick is corny especially when-- but the best is when they screw up.
-And they say something like, "Hello, Cleveland." They're in like, you know, Nebraska.
-That would be such a bad mistake to make.
I mean, but I could believe it though, you just-- you know, they go touring.
-You don't know where you are.
-And you wake up in a city in there you--
-You're on drugs obviously, and that's the problem.
So again, send all of your misheard lyrics
to @ShanonCook on Twitter and you're gonna compile this list and that's gonna be awesome.
-Yeah, for different regions.
-Okay, it's cool.
-Of the world, so--
-Oh, that will be interesting.
So it'll be really, really helpful from our US people, but you're global.
-This is like an international show.
Earth is our demographics.
Earth-- just this planet, just this planet.
All right, speaking of list, let's get to the highly-anticipated most viral songs
of the week.
In the US.
-In the US.
Let's here-- we gotta do the bubble butt one first, so--
-Is that number one?
-This is the number one song-- Bubble Butt.
-The song, not the video 'cause I was thinking that one probably appreciated the other.
Well, we're all about the song on Spotify you have got to check out this music video unless you're easily shocked and offended by booty shaking.
-So here's-- we're hearing it right
It sounds like some weird kiddie song.
-Some weird voice.
-What the hell is this?
-The video is really cool, right?
It's Tyga who sings the song and he kinda comes and like blesses these buttless girls with a big bubble butt each and they just go and freak out.
The video is actually directed--
-By Eric Wareheim from Tim and Eric.
-Oh, and that makes sense.
-It makes sense.
-But you didn't mention that these butts are inflated with hoses.
-It has to be seemed to be related.
It's kind of-- to me it's like [unk] makes a lots-- I like big butts.
-And it's just butt shaking all over the place.
-I don't know.
I feel like this is--
-Butt working as--
-Demeaning though, this is like not nice.
-When you think this is the first song that's ever been sung about big butts?
-I don't know.
I just-- I feel bad.
-I thought we were over it actually.
I didn't think we made it a whole--
That's what I thought.
We forget about it.
-You guys remember how cool butts are?
Well, here's a song to remind you.
-But it has this sort of, I don't wanna say futuristic spin on it but there's something weird about this video.
-It's like a retro--
-I said weird with an American accent, that's what weird.
-Buenas Noches by the end of the night--
-So we're hearing this right now.
-By the end of the night my knees are now on your chest.
Fuck me bad, let me in, a cardio caress--
-This is-- I mean, it's a-- I don't wanna say it's a sexy song, is it?
-If you listen to it and watch the video, it might be sexy.
The song sounds moist.
Is that weird?
-Yeah, wait 'til we get to the Weeknd.
That's a very sexy song.
Well, that's Mr. Bubble Butt.
-Well, and it's Major Lazer.
-Yeah, that's the artist, right?
-That and Major Lazer is kind of a collaborative project, which is the brainchild of dip it low.
-The LA DJ who's kind of one of the go-to EDM guys, if you want to crank out a hit song.
-And he uses a lot of-- and with this project, it's a lot about reggae
-So, it's a real hybrid but there's a lot of Jamaican sound to it.
-And a lot of booty shaking.
-Yeah, there is.
I guess you need that.
-Hey, I'm not gonna really complain I guess.
-Yeah, you can call this one--
-We're keeping our butts still here.
-On this one.
-We're gonna have backup.
-It's gonna be a summer banger for sure.
I think that's why it's number one, right?
It's probably getting played at every party going on.
-You said summer banger?
-Yeah, kind of which you use different words.
-Yeah, 100 percent.
-It's gonna be a summer banger, right there.
-It's gonna really shake things up.
-It's gonna rain dosh on that.
-I love it.
-All right, what song will you--
-I can't believe you're kinda [unk] the word dosh.
-I'm so psyched about it.
Now I'm just gonna use it so much.
-Bringing in some dosh.
-I'm gonna bring it-- I'm gonna bring it everywhere.
I'm going out to LA next week.
I'm gonna say dosh everywhere.
Bill [unk] bought some dosh.
And Bill like, what are you talking about?
-And I think it's the new drug, your choice.
-Yeah, for sure.
LA for sure.
I don't have any of that but I got some other great stuff.
-All right, what song--
What's the next song that you were-- I mean, I'm glad to see that Lorde is still on the list because I really like what she is doing.
-Yeah, she's a main stay on this list.
She's been on the list constantly for about 6 weeks and we can't say that about anybody else.
Although the other song that's been really popular is Robin Thicke's Blurred Lines--
-Which is sort of-- positioned itself almost as the summer-- the song of the summer could almost be crown that pre-maturely but--
-Can we play that?
I haven't heard it yet.
-Oh, haven't you?
-Yeah, I haven't heard it.
This is not the one that had the butts in the other video.
-No, they were boobs.
-Yeah, those are boobs.
-And the boobs got yanked.
Well, then-- got yanked.
-Why do I know the name Robin Thicke?
-Because we talked about 2 periods ago.
-No, but like--
-No I don't think we've talked about him with me.
-He is Alan Thicke's son.
That's the actor of Family Ties.
Was it-- no, not
-It was Growing Pains.
-No, Growing Pains.
No-- who was in Family Ties?
-I mean, he hosted like the Crossword Show.
-I don't know about that--
-It's like a game show.
-I only know Growing Pains and I only half new back 'cause I can't name of a role.
-This is a good song.
-It is a great song.
My boss calls this his gen.
-Yeah, this is good.
Good job Robin.
-Yeah, nice job.
-And he looks just like his dad too, which is awesome.
-He really does, and I've interviewed him.
He's very tall.
-Very tall and he always wear his suit,
or at least he--
-Hey, he's a gentleman.
-All right, cool.
-It's a really-- it's a funny mix this week.
There's a lot of rap and hip-hop and a lot of EDM.
We've got Daft Punk back with Get Lucky, and their album Random Access Memory is just blowing up all over the place.
In fact, it broke-- it's broken two records on the Spotify now.
Last week it became the most streamed
album in its first week of release in the US.
-Oh, that's cool.
-People are just loving it and I think they--
-What is it about them?
-Do you think they're overrated?
-I'm gonna get--
-I said yes.
-I think we're gonna get blown off away from this, but--
-I don't feel like they're kind of overrated.
I mean, I understand that their foundation have a lot of Electronic Music now but can we all agree that one more time sucks, now it sucks.
-Oh, no I like one.
You can listen to that loop just for 7 minutes nonstop?
No-- not the 7 minutes but a couple.
-I think their music is inventive like I think they've done some--
-Don't get me wrong.
I love a lot of their songs so I was like-- early albums.
-And a lot-- and it's very catchy.
And they definitely paved the way for a lot of new artists but--
-But they're not robots.
-Yeah, they're not.
-They're not robots from the future.
-They're not robots but it's funny that a lot of people are clamoring to buy those helmets--
-Like you get on ebay.
-For what reason though?
They just wanna be like Androids?
-They just wanna-- they wanna be cool.
I mean, these are probably the same kinds of people who tattoo their favorite artists based on their bags or something like that.
And there's really nothing punk about Daft Punk either,
which I'm gonna go ahead and say that.
There's just nothing punk rock about--
-Basically, you guys saying they're just Daft.
-No-- well, more or less.
No, I mean, I don't-- like I said one more time, it's catchy like the music they create--
-And they're talented in that regard is catchy but I-- I would say, you know, that they're getting just the amount of love they should be getting, but now it's probably-- exceeded the amount.
-Well, I do take my helmet off to them
for trying to actually take things in a different direction with this album because so many people kind of jump on the Daft Punk.
-Little funkier, yeah.
-Yeah, that sort of taken it back and giving it a bit of a 70's disco live.
-But they've also introduced-- they've sort of gotten away from it being heavily electronic and digital and they've brought in a lot of live instrument function.
-They have live guitarists.
They have Pharrell singing on one of the tracks.
-They're more musicians this time--
And that was very deliberate and it was their way of saying, okay, you know, we kind of came out strong and a lot of people started copying us a little bit so now we're trying to take things in a different direction.
-And I think they've succeeded in doing that.
But a lot of-- some people-- unhappy about that.
They think, you know, this new material is too much of a departure and they don't get it.
-Oh, the die hard's--
-I feel like anytime you have such a big break between [unk] they're always gonna hate on the new one.
-I'm looking forward to their remix album that's supposedly coming out
later this month?
-Daft Punk remixing Daft Punk.
I like when artist do that.
It's kind of their own take on that--
-Remixing their and stuff.
-You're just gonna play everything backwards?
-Not wearing two helmets.
Interestingly, I was-- I did a lot of reading about the helmets--
-'Cause I wanted to try and understand and apparently they are custom-made by this special effects company out in California.
I think it's in California.
-Okay, that's cool.
-And apparently their air-conditioned.
So that when they're performing, they
stay cool, which makes sense-- I mean, wearing that plastic head gear.
Like, could you imagine wearing a motorcycle helmet in a band just playing and it sounds awful.
-It would just fog up instantly.
-What about they get it from the same guy that Deadmau5 gets his helmet from?
-I think it's air-conditioned too, I believe.
-I bet it is.
I think that's got cable.
-I'm sure, they're very expensive contraptions, that's for sure.
-Same guy that makes the Jack in the Box thing too, I bet.
All one big business.
-They're all from the same company.
-Is there anything on the list this week that's more like
-I was surprised that this Boards of Canada song made the list because that one I think kinda sticks out amongst all the rest of them.
It's got a-- it's more of like a low-key ambient song.
-It sort of atmospheric song, isn't it?
-And interestingly, we're talking about them after Daft Punk because this is an electronic duo from Scotland, who kinda came out around the same time as Daft Punk and had a pretty big following-- unlike Daft Punk, they took a
bit of a break between albums.
So this is their first material since 2005.
And yeah, it's very low-key.
-Yeah, I'm digging it.
It's very like post-rock.
-I like it.
-Is it in the-- I fear this should be like the score of a movie.
-Yeah, a little bit.
-It seems like a nice little build up here too.
I'm digging that.
So, they're called Boards of Canada?
-Yeah, I don't know.
-And they're not from Canada?
-They're not from-- I don't know what is behind the name.
-Can you do that?
-You should try--
-I'm not sure you can do that.
-Well, you're so Boards of Canada when you're from Scotland.
-Yeah, this is like illegal.
-It seems a little strange.
-It's like an unwritten bomb.
-And what's with the boards?
-We should look that up.
-Like what kind of boards?
Not a whole surfing in Scotland, I don't think.
-I read it and I'm like, they're just bored with Canada and I'm like-- aren't we all?
But then no, they spelled the wrong, so I have nothing--
-No, you can't-- look, you can't say that.
-No, I love Canada.
-I married a Canadian.
-And I do happened to love--
-And I'm a bit bored of him I must say.
But that's not 'cause he's Canadian, 'cause I married him.
No, he's great.
-That's a whole different show.
That's a different show.
-So this is cool.
-It's really, really mixed and 2 Chainz, you know, the young rapper from Atlanta, I believe.
He's on the list like 3 times everybody's clamoring to collaborate with 2 Chainz.
-Oh, and he's with his buddy.
He's with his buddy B.O.B.
-All right, yeah.
was in our show.
-And we had him a while back--
-Oh, did you?
-Yeah, we did.
It was like a couple
of months ago.
He was promoting a video game.
So 2 Chainz is a rapper, right?
-2 Chainz is a rapper and he-- he's kind of funny.
He used to be called-- he's used to call by the name Tity Boi.
-At first, I wasn't sure if it was Tidy Boi 'cause he's only 1 "t" in the middle.
-But then I thought, no, it's gotta be Tity Boi.
-Are we allowed to say Tity Boi?
-Yeah, we did, I think.
-I think that's fine.
Let's hear it.
-[unk] oh what a night, oh what a night--
-Booty and butt-shaking.
-Mine as well take care of the whole body.
He used to go by that name but he changed it, I think because people found it offensive like, we've probably just offended--
-Kinda makes it sound like he has the tity-- when you have a name like that.
-Yeah, I know.
-It's not that he loves it, maybe he has man boobs himself.
-Well, not necessarily.
-Yeah, it's like.
Look at that Tity Boi.
-He's pretty skinny though, I don't think he--
-No titties at this guy.
-He does have a song which I kind of like called I'm Different.
He's really only bubbled up in the last couple of years and this-- are you familiar with I'm Different?
-it's not the
song itself that I necessarily really like.
I just like that he had the balls to just name the song I'm Different.
I like that.
-I thought that was cool.
-So, head band is the song, it's B.O.B.
featuring 2 Chainz.
-Yeah, and there's a lyric in it that I really like too.
"I shine bright, I'll give you girl a slight tan." I'd actually like to make someone who shines so brightly that I get a tan from being it.
-And I like that-- it's a slight tan.
He's not gonna burn you.
-It's gonna be a nice coating, a nice
-Be very subtle.
That's the kinda tan--
-And you probably build layer upon layer before--
-Right, like an onion.
-That's good, 'cause it's not a lot of natural light in the strip clubs where these songs probably get played.
These songs are all-- all of 2 Chainz songs sound like they're made for strip DJs, not a lot of Vitamin B in there, if you know what I mean.
-Not at all.
-But it's kind of a cool song and they've just-- I believe they just shot the music video in LA and I've seen some of the footage in it.
It features these girls doing
a-- dancing like synchronized swimmers.
-Yet, they're on land.
And-- I don't know, it looks kinda cool.
-That is cool.
-I don't mind it, it's a cool song.
Rock and roll.
-And the other person who appears and just continuously appears on our list is Pharrell as-- I actually have a funny story about when I interviewed him.
-You wanna hear it?
-Well, I was doing a piece on Britney Spears for CNN--
-This is quite a number of years ago.
This was before
Pharrell was Pharrell.
This is when he was Pharrell Williams.
-Oh, all right.
-And he was more behind-the-scenes.
He's a producer then he was, you know, in front of the camera establishing himself as an artist.
Anyway, I'm doing this piece on Britney Spears and her big song at the time was a song called Boys, which was produced by Pharrell Williams.
-So I thought it would be really good if I could get Pharrell in this piece--
-Talking about the song.
-And I called his people and it just so happened that
he was in Atlanta for 2 hours and this was when I was in Atlanta, CNN's headquarter was there.
So lo and behold in about 20 minutes, he was about to arrive.
The only problem is I had done no research, whatsoever about this guy.
I didn't know who he was.
-And I was really nervous because I hate to sit down an interview someone I know nothing about.
-All I knew was that he produced the song.
-So he shows up completely by himself 'cause again, this was back when he was Pharrell Williams.
he was wearing this Billabong t-shirt and we rode this escalator together and was so thrilled he's wearing a Billabong t-shirt 'cause it gave me something to talk about with him.
-Because Billabongs and Ozzy clothing label and I grew up near a Billabong factory.
-Oh, that's cool.
I was wearing one actually--
That's very weird.
-Oh, that's very cool.
I have a really big surf culture obviously in Australia.
So we were able to talk about that and I thought, this is great, you know, putting off the inevitable into--
gonna ask him ridiculous questions.
We sat down to do the interview and he immediately right off the back gave me this exclusive little bit of information which was that song Boys, which he produced for Britney was actually, originally intended for Michael Jackson.
And the song was called Girls, but apparently, it didn't work out with Michael, so Britney took it and changed the sex of the song.
-So I thought, "Oh, this guy knows a lot of great stuff."
This is gonna be good.
-This is gonna be good.
So I proceeded to ask him the most general questions like, "What are your thoughts about the record industry of the moment?"
-So, what are you working on these days and got so much great information out of him 'cause he's so smart and so-- he just knows everybody and he knows everything about the business.
And it became this interview that was just picked apart for years because whenever we were doing a piece about anything with music, Pharrell had said
So even in the interview started off as this-- oh, God.
This is gonna be awful and I don't know anything and it's gonna be a really generic interview.
-It ended up being one of the most valuable interviews I've ever done.
-See, that's how it happens, right?
The best things come out of stuff that you're terrified of.
-Of nothing-- out of complete ineptitude.
-And of nothing.
Well, that's a good story for sure.
-It was a bit long.
It took a bit long to tell--
-No, I don't think so.
-Justin's eyes were
-Yeah, he actually fell asleep.
-No, I'm a big Pharrell fan.
I'm also a big Weeknd fan, which I wanna talk about--
-Oh, are you?
-Well, yeah I'm a huge Weeknd fan--
-And when this song came out I was so-- it's like--
-Even if it's misspelled?
-The song is Kiss Land.
-So, you're a fan of the Weeknd but not of spelling.
Not of grammar or a spelling.
-Why you a fan of The Weeknd?
-I remember, The Weeknd came out on YouTube a couple of years ago.
And that was-- it was a song that sort of was spread by the internet, which I love.
-And his songs
are very heavily sample of-- and Jeff, I know that Ariel is also a big fan of the Weeknd as well.
-Okay, that's good.
-You know, most artists, most rap artists when they sample, they use, you know, soul songs--
-In the 60's, right?
But The Weeknd, he samples songs that are made within the last decades, so a little example things like Aliyaah or Beach House, you know, modern artists.
-I think that's really cool and his songs are like this new breed of RNB.
It's like this--
-Yeah, I think--
-It's like the Serape coding and deuce style of RNB.
-What is that coding?
-Listen to it.
It's kinda slow--
Let's hear it.
-But melodic at the same time.
He sings in his falsetto, that's so addictive.
-He gets compared to Michael Jackson a little bit.
-Yeah, kind of.
-But I don't think he necessarily sounds anything like him.
-I mean, I understand where that comparison comes from just by hearing this.
-If you're gonna make a bedroom mixed tape, the Weeknd will appear first, middle and last song on that.
-A bedroom mixed tape.
-That sounds dirty.
-It is dirty.
-You should make that later.
-I can help you out with that.
-I don't hate it--
-I'm into it.
-You know-- it's okay.
-You don't like it?
-Not a big hip-hop fan in general.
-There's a kind of a mystery about this guy and he sort of--
-Not a bit.
-He's very mysterious.
He doesn't reveal much about himself.
-I like that.
I like keeping things, you know, cryptic.
I'm into it.
-Were you're a mysterious?
-So Kiss Land-- that song.
-Oh, yes I was the kind I am.
-Kiss Land, yeah he debut this song on YouTube, I believe a couple
of weeks ago.
I think it's really long.
-Like 7 minutes this song--
-It's interesting though 'cause it changes-- kinda halfway through.
-Which kinda goes back to how we got started.
He released these 3 mixed tapes online.
-Before he was even published through a record label, then collected those mixed tapes into his first album, which was called Trilogy.
So he was like-- it was maybe over 25 songs on this first album.
They're all incredible.
-I fast-forward like 3 minutes.
It sounds like a totally different song.
-Yeah, it changes halfway through.
why not just make it 2 different songs, man.
-I'm telling you, the guy's a mystery.
-Yeah, he is all over the map-- this guy.
He's a genius.
-I'm into it.
-And he's crazy.
-And he can't spell.
-He's this bipolar, illiterate genius.
-And he is from Canada, isn't he?
We keep coming back to Canada.
-That's the only good thing about him.
He sounds like-- all right, cool.
Well, I mean, this list's been great.
This is great stuff.
We love having you here.
Thank you so much.
-Was that 20 minutes?
-This was a half-hour almost.
-Are you kidding
-I'm not joking.
-Oh, my goodness.
-That's how it works.
That's how it works.
-We just start talking and the time flies.
-It flies right by.
We have to come back very soon if you can.
-I do have to come back soon 'cause--
-Because soon we're gonna have to call it a temporary hiatus, if you will.
-'Cause you have to--
-A baby's coming.
You should explain us.
-A baby is coming.
-Some people like-- is she dying?
-Is she all right?
-She gonna get fired?
We are expecting very soon.
-So congrats on that and all that.
-Yeah, in fact,
I was getting kicked through the entire half hour.
-Yeah, in the ribs--
-Oh, my God.
-It's the music.
-Yeah, she's a musical one.
-She already knows the viral list.
-Please don't be a musician, please--
-You wanted to make money, right?
-She can be-- yeah, I wanted to make dosh.
-There you go.
Right-- right on.
Well, thank you for being here so much.
-Thanks for having me.
Follow Shanon on Twitter @ShanonCook.
You can also please tweet at her all of your
We wanna hear everything.
Send it to us, send it to her and we'll have a fun time going through all that stuff.
I can't wait to--
-That's gonna be a fun list.
-Just-- I have to just start following my wife with the pen and pad because she does it worst than anybody.
It's so awesome.
-Well, that's another thing we wanna get into with this playlist is what the context is and how it annoys people and people get the lyrics right.
-Oh, my God.
It's just the worst.
So-- ever go to karaoke and
people like learned so much when they go to Karaoke.
Oh, my God, is that-- we were saying the wrong thing for 28 years.
-All right, we'll see you very soon.
More 404 right after the break.
We'll see you in just a minute.
All right, welcome back to the 404 Show.
She's always cool--
-Is she not becoming quickly on her way in the land of the 404s?
Love having her.
We're gonna post the entire viral list, the
US viral list from a Spotify.
Justin will throw that in the show notes today.
We only got a few minutes left on the program, so we're not gonna get into any major, major stories but there's one thing that I would like to bring up because I think it's just time this happen.
I am so goddamn sick of watching Vertical iPhone videos.
I cannot handle it anymore.
The idiocy of people drives me beyond words.
I cannot watch CNN.
I cannot watch MSNBC--
-Wait, they show these videos on television?
I thought you were just talking about YouTube when people--
There is no escaping it my friend.
They are everywhere.
The dummies are everywhere and I'm sorry
you are a dummy.
If you record video horizontally-- forgive me-- vertically, you are a big dummy.
Now here's what I propose here's what I propose, Richard, Justin-- here is what I am proposing.
You make horizontal filming default.
So when you get-- so when you enter video mode and you're so ready to film something like this because that's how we all-- because our eyes are on top of each other, not side by side.
Our eyes are up or
vertical like a traffic light.
That's what our eyes look like.
They're on the side, right?
That should be the freaking default video recording setting.
Now, I don't wanna get everyone up in arms, I wanna get the proponents of vertical filming to be like, "Oh, well, we demand shooting video.
We demand awful video quality." Right?
No, if you wanna be vertical, go then you hit the button, the dummy button.
You hit the button 'cause I'm an idiot.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I wanna film vertically still.
And it goes back to vertical.
But by the-- let me finish my-- by default, iPhones, Android-- every-- should.
If you-- and then, people will be like, "hey, this look sideways and then they just turn that MRF right on its side.
-And they figure it out.
So you make it by default-- horizontal.
If they wanna film vertical, you hit the idiot button.
I'm an idiot.
I hate video and then I'm just gonna film this way.
-Just poor a little sand on your camp fire again.
-'Cause you're always getting--
-Is that I'm saying?
Is that I'm saying?
-'Cause you're getting
so angry about those kind of stuff.
-Okay, don't-- okay, don't get angry at me or don't--
-You get so-- and I feel like there's gonna people out there that are gonna get you hurt by the fact that you just call them a bunch of idiots and dummies, right?
-That's my-- that's what I am hoping.
-There's no need for name-calling.
I feel like the reason why people do that is because when you use a phone in every other situation, right?
-Maybe not everyone's a genius photographer like Ansel Adams over here, right?
-But they all have TVs that are widescreen--
-But they all have TVs-- right.
But you guys are both--
-Richard-- you should know.
-But you guys are both
in video and you do everything else.
I'm not saying that I do this 'cause I don't.
-Here's why you're wrong.
-You know, most people when they shoot video on their phone, they watch the video on their phone and it looks fine.
It's only when you--
-It looks fine?
-Upload it to a YouTube of Vimeo that it does have that black button on the side.
That's when you realize it.
So I think it's not so much a case of idiocy--
-Not stupid people--
-As much as it is ignorance.
So instead of calling them idiots--
-I mean, you say ignorance I say stupidity--
-Why don't you just say-- why don't you just kinda pat in a little bit.
-Their negativity is casting
a cloud over the show.
-Okay, first of all.
That's like my thing, man.
I'm-- that's like what I do.
You're like getting mad at like, you know, like Lewis Black.
I'm not comparing myself to Lewis Black, but like, Lewis Black's shtick-- is that he loses his mind or everything.
-That's what I'm doing.
-Yeah, my job is to--
-So don't deconstruct that.
-Kinda like helping you out.
You don't have a heart attack next week.
-Don't deconstruct my shtick, okay?
So, check it out.
-When people used to have point and shoots, right?
There are lots of-- like people totally turn that upside down, you know,
you're like you should watch people take photos.
They would be like, Oh, this one deserves a portrait instead of landscape, right?
So why is it so hard to use that methodology and translate it into--
-I'm with you man.
-You're with me?
-Yeah, of course.
-We're gonna fight this, fight together side by side, the three of us.
-I totally agree with you.
-Marching towards the horizontal filming future.
That's what I have to say.
-Vertical video syndrome--
-And it's a real thing.
-It's a real thing.
Your eyes-- I know it's hard for you
to notice but you're-- like, and you know what drove me crazy the other day is when I really just snapped and I was like, well this is no officially an epidemic.
It was when CNN had video footage coming in from a journalist.
A journalist was doing this.
They are like-- and here's the video footage.
It was like, something happened and, you know, the crap that's going on in Turkey right now, right?
So-- and they're filming it up and down like this.
As you can see, here's a very narrow-angle of the riots in Turkey.
I supposed I could turn my phone sideways and improve the visibility for everyone watching at home, but no I'm a dummy.
-Instead of watching this stuff that was happening in Turkey, this is what you're focused on--
-Why they're airing a video that's vertical.
What's happening to Turkey?
It's all about the vertical film making and its defects.
I'm with you.
-Anyway, I hope everyone learn their lesson.
I'm glad Richard's with me.
-And you think you're with me?
start finding these people.
-If it was up to Jeff, you would kill these people because you would find some way to--
-[unk] into this.
-No one should die for this, please.
As funny as that is.
Nobody should just die.
-You think there's people that actually want it that way or they just don't know better.
-Like maybe 1 out of 50,000 videos, it's appropriate.
-But not even.
It's not though because it's not how your eyes look at
-And I don't understand how people can like film this and be like-- oh, man there's so much crap going on the left and right of my subject if there's only a way to capture more on the sides.
-But how do you feel about people that shoot videos vertically though, Jeff?
You haven't talked to us.
I wanna know.
-They're charming people.
They're charming, intelligent people.
-We should have one segment a week where we really have to force you to talk about something that you love, that you not like.
don't-- people, well I think people get it together.
That's not hockey.
-People-- and there's a lot of made about with hockey too.
People don't-- that's tune in to our show.
It'd be like.
I wanna hear like real positive, you know, real positive--
-I think so will do.
-Outlook with Jeff things like super positive.
-I think some people would like that.
-I wanna hear that.
-We tried doing that, didn't we?
We never got to 'cause you couldn't think of one kind of thing you like.
-There was like-- I remember that was like an ongoing mean with the show where it was like Stuff I Like.
-Let me complain about you complaining.
-And there was like the Nighttime in Winter.
-That's all we came
-Man, it's-- how beautiful-- oh, you know what I like?
I like the weather today.
The weather is beautiful out.
It's like 69 out, cool breeze--
-Go to the park.
-I like that.
No mosquitoes out right now.
All right, let's transition a little bit so I can cool down.
I'm at like a 15 I need to be at 4, maybe.
-That's 50 percent anger.
-You don't wanna see 20.
-There's an e-mail you brought up during the program.
I wanna hear what do you have to say sir.
-Yeah, this is really cool.
So, I got an e-mail yesterday and he says, it's from a guy named Christoff.
And he says, "Hey, Justin.
Just wanna let you know that I used your hike through the darkness." That's story I told last Tuesday in class today.
Turns out he's a professor at UCSB in Santa Barbara, it's in California, right?
He teaches a Geography 12 class, that's our first introduction into cartography,
-Oh, that's cool.
-And spatial reasoning.
He says, "The student learned how to read maps, how to orient themselves on the map with and without a compass.
Why I compass on smartphone only works while you're in motion.
How GPS works and when it doesn't-- and he also teaches the class on how satellites are orbiting in which of their remote sensing data is relevant to cartography." Right?
He says, "This week is the last before finals and they usually do a recap.
But when I saw your story online, I realized that many of your decision points, knowledge from this class would have helped you exactly to locate
yourself to get the compass working, to get a GPS Signal, etc."
-Yes, see there is a way.
-Yeah, so he basically used my story as whatnot to do.
-Yeah, when you're in nature.
-Well, like I said, we're now referring to your story as a series of poor decisions--
-By Justin Yu.
-What else could go wrong?
-So he actually linked the slides on his Twitter here.
This is so cool.
He actually used screenshots from the episode and he uses like points of navigation
and stuff that we showed, so--
-Hold on, looks like the PDF is loading up.
Here it is.
-Oh, that's so cool.
-By Christoff Genowitz.
-Don't get lost.
Don't be this guy.
-And should show the photo of you with like your arm's shrug.
-Lack of tech knowledge.
This is very funny.
Well, hey, thanks Christoff.
We appreciate it.
-And make sure all of your students go to the 404.cnet.com and follow us on Twitter and do all that.
-And answer the 2k Sports Contest as well.
-Oh, that's right.
-So, there is.
Thanks for your e-mail Christoff.
All right, it's a little after 1:00.
I think we gotta say goodbye.
Is there anything else we wanna do today?
There's some stories but maybe we'll just have to wait 'til tomorrow.
-Is that okay with you?
-is that okay with you Richard?
I won't be here tomorrow, but--
-I know but I wanted to say thanks for dealing this with us today.
I know Ariel is doing a lot to the Tricaster [unk] with the third.
-Yeah, a little confuse with something but I think it went well.
-Yeah, you did a great job.
We appreciate you filling in today buddy.
-Thank so much.
we're gonna say goodbye.
866-404-CNET, that's the phone number to call us up.
Leave a voicemail.
If you wanna e-mail us, that's cool too, that's not a problem.
-Is there a problem--
-No, the mouse isn't working.
-The mouse isn't working?
That's all right.
But you can click buttons--
-Oh, I'll hit the button.
-How about that?
-Yeah, I get to see it out of the corner of my eye freaking out Richard and I'm like, something's coming--
-Like I just said, it went well and now I won't be able to play the music.
You got the number, you got the
e-mail, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Reddit all these moments await you on the Tubes.
We're back tomorrow with Jill Schlesinger, who's on the program.
This will be her last one for a little bit as well.
We got E3 next week.
Lot of stuff happening and this is the-- this, I'm telling you man.
This summer is gonna freaking Whiz right by.
It's gonna go so fast.
You're gonna turn around, it's gonna be September.
-I'm just saying that to myself so the hot weather just goes--
-Yeah, let's just skip over the entire--
-Over the hot weather.
Back here tomorrow with Jill.
Until then, have a great Tuesday, we'll see you.
I'm Jeff Bakalar.
-I'm Justin Yu.
-I'm Richard Peterson.
-This has been the 404 Show, high-tech, low brow.
Thanks again for Shanon Cook from Spotify and we're back here tomorrow guys.
We'll see you.
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