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Ep. 1280: New Kindle undercuts iPad by $360Why buy a $499 device to read books when Amazon's new Kindle will do it for $139? We debate. Also, Facebook building a font of all knowledge with Questions. Plus: How to hack ATMs.
-- Thursday July 20 ninth. -- -- -- Jason -- I'm -- -- -- regular welcome to buzz out loud is cnet's podcast of indeterminate length episodes of 1280. And we are welcoming our special guest CNET executive editor David Carnoy thank you thank you for having me you little flu all the -- in from New York. -- is buy an -- in -- -- ten years since my first time on the show. Well yes we've been trying to keep you off but he did he burst on the door rate of battery life threatening on and I'm really I'm really thankful for that that timing is actually to have you on his is extremely fortuitous because you -- like RE book expert. Yesterday and today and also action book author. Today happens to be the day that Amazon is releasing the Kindle three. Which is that is number -- right they're not actually releasing it today here these. Announced it is actually. Got about a month ago before that election releases -- really because we were one of the stories we actually skipped doing yesterday it was that you could no longer buy a Kindle and they were out of stocks of the DX. And now we know why because there's a new Kindle coming in so this is. At a new low price point there's -- now Wi-Fi only version of the Kindle. -- -- 139 dollars and why is this such a big deal. -- It it is well it's ten dollars cheaper than the life only no it's a it's like a little too little jab there at that Barnes & Noble. But so they if Barnes animal went down to one 49 just a few weeks ago and everyone's waiting for this let you know the 139 looks pretty Goodman. -- -- he would like to go -- 99 but. You know they're obviously Amazon's time in this for the back to school season. Holiday season so. They're they're probably gonna sell likened to that point -- a lot of it was sitting on the fence waiting for the next Kindle because. It already been outsold long yeah the second generation can assume -- all these rumors that. You know and those who do want them in one the keeping his. They really it's really more of an evolutionary product and revolutionary when they didn't go to -- -- -- go to touch screen it's just made a little smaller lighter and more memory. It's it's a little ads appear on the page turned to see about that I actually got to touch when yesterday. And and turn on. Yes because when it -- they also say that the contracts. On the yeah I mean I think it's -- they -- -- through the number up 50% better but when you see it -- -- relative pops little with a two letters pop a little bit more they've they've. Tweak the fonts a little bits to make and sharper -- you they've already did that with via the Kindle DX there's there's a new. Display out -- called the parole he inked in place so that's the that's the one they're using. So. Japanese -- has been quoted saying some really entertaining stuff don't you have with -- -- you found. What you're saying he he you realize that -- they're gonna be at least a hundred different than tablets or -- Leaders coming out this year have color displays and that's. They don't wanna be -- 101. -- -- be they want still keep on being -- happen and they can pass for the invasion can happen is fixing these those CEO of Amazon seems to be really doubling down on this single purpose light weight. Which is -- fury try to read on iPad. Lightweight. Relatively low cost. Device sync and really diverting saying you know this is all about books -- -- iPad is everything in this is just the book reader as arts competitors. He said for example you're not going to improve Hemingway by adding video snippets. And he's really focusing on that it it looks like the battle being joined right now is really. If I want any. Do I get -- -- spend 4500. Dollars or tablet or slate. Or do I get one of these about hundred dollar devices and like you are -- -- several for the house so what I mean it. I mean if you're hard core -- does get both finance is not that big -- deal when that was that's being. You know 139 bucks for can -- the -- with of course the iPad as just using it outdoors in general. And so you're sitting there you know. Outside by the pool or whatever it's it's much more attractive to go with one of these. And Amazon is definitely trying to get this you can -- -- it -- your pop pot didn't and you just can't do that with an iPad right now. And I mean there there there are people by the -- not just to read books and that's one of the key things rendered that's it that's it's nice supplement to a year out. But. To take the other side of of that position. I have an iPad. And I read books on it I'm not about to spend another hundred bucks for their reader only device even though it is would be kind of attracted just leave it on on the nightstand in -- CIA do you think though if you go on vacation -- 139 dollar device via if you lose if he gets lost in your luck -- your luggage gets lost with this any. It's not expensive enough where you'd go filing an insurance claim something for it -- it's approaching dispose ability at that point. Connecticut -- the other thing their the other thing that -- is -- is the battery life they've been they've increased to a month for with a wireless turned off. So that's obviously a big do you do the iPad does have very good battery life and it's but it -- not biscuit -- so I mean very taken trip and and it's really they need to -- there's going to be a lot of people who are buying iPad we know that but. They're trying to -- -- -- they're trying to reach this mass market audience in in this price things people that you know. Go into Wal-Mart and and make you know that that. They do have an advantage because. What -- they promote on Amazon usually sells pretty well hadn't written it. I saw that he page placement but it did the thing but there's personal -- idea of the day -- take a really nice device. And about the right size that it looks like these candles are. Paperback -- that this play I think that that maybe it's smaller -- -- expect problems that can. Yes six inches exits -- -- -- I mean it's a little small. Yeah I mean 8% I think a lot of people get used to it again it's not that -- -- that one from the DX is it it's a little bit heavy like the FBI had so. I mean they're really that -- niche device. There older people who wanting it Jack up the font size people who do and I mean that the promised textbooks. Haven't really EE textbooks haven't really taken off yet and there really trying to. Aimed -- initially it the college market little bit. They college kids would rather -- DX. -- say for the record that I really want -- video enabled version Hemingway. I don't think you'll improve on hand anyway. But you live feed and try option -- April -- it -- we have never done hasn't been -- -- -- -- the I think yes I think with yes. Com. But it was and I think the and in the thing with the iPad is you know all this video so that they're those books are actually pretty expensive those interactive books here and they're trying to -- -- -- -- it -- it. To increase their margins on some these books when that when Amazon is in -- and it drives the price of books to -- Yeah so -- there's a little bit of in your head is at the same time you -- you have the the Amazon -- you on the on the that you Barnes and -- oh -- though. They're they're they're gonna be doing that they're they're adding their own interactive features do they they know what's gonna. -- I gotta say I think it's interesting that we the at this point especially with the new price point still end up comparing the iPad Kindle -- -- -- because. It's like four times the cost difference right light the candles like four times cheaper than the iPad why do we see them on the same. Playing field because this is definitely a single purpose. Device and like you said David this is aiming for the people for it for the mass market that all they wanna do is read books why do we still compare the iPad that's. Well because -- I think it eat you get to that decision -- than not you want the single purpose -- -- like -- less -- -- 150 dollars and get the is it worth it for -- to also -- and three -- upgrade -- step back. I get a whole lot more -- Netflix. Watching and violating -- check my name -- do all these other things like that -- -- Dumas of its terms of if I'm eventually going to buy both why not just cut out. Little but I'm not gonna actually gonna buy both you have to at some point make the decision do you if you're if you want to read books. He's been 139 the books -- the same price regardless and you can do book we can read books -- -- but do you spend a 139 dollars for a device that can only read books and some blogs and newspapers. Or do you spend the extra money for -- -- do that plus more but has the downsides of lower battery life and greater weight and case. It outside as easily right unabated but -- eventually talking about the Kindle being a free version of the Kindle where if you lock in the state buying. Three books -- of like a little script yeah and that that I mean it's already won 39 after a few years of and -- there's no reason. That it shouldn't dropped. I -- nine in the next six months and then. From there you're getting these these are not -- I mean really you can see how much cost them the three G ads yes it's a hundred and and it's the same device if you're lucky no difference at fifty dollars that once you get rid of that and then you can sorts of and they're not super complicated devices and when. When Amazon can make. Thousands even millions of these if they're they're Costco down. So Amazon said also recently that. As we know. Electronic book sales on Amazon have surpassed partner books though which is not present -- reports -- -- at -- -- except for York which is -- -- And Amazon critics now that e-book sales will over take paperback book sales. By next year sometime -- of 2011 by the end of next year and that's huge. I mean that that really is shift in the way we we consume information the way we read from actually owning books and putting my shelves. To it keeping this library which is basically owned by somebody else -- the keys to -- but some -- -- -- and I -- -- -- -- even you know anecdotally from working a bookstore that the people who still religiously coming week to weakened -- books but people were really interested in my political information. Which has known eastern time fans like a book you wanna keep on your shelf necessary forever it's a book about the Iraq War something. And you know the romance novel Chris you know the people who also -- a huge appetite for books that don't necessarily -- everything my grandmother bodies ripping novel on the bookshelf my family didn't every single monitor happiness -- got and we will move on a promise after. Because she got she subscribed to I don't know what it was -- or whatever one of those guys these -- and she got every month or two a a shipping box. Of romance novels all different -- and cute she read like to and I -- it's very easy. Anyway well I think. I mean I do you think what you do -- that is is it in this -- definitely. Pushing this agenda setting people -- apps they're I mean if they they they they don't wanna have to store. The real books and there are out of everybody -- and but it's it's actually. -- -- there's this whole thing the publishers are very disturbed by Elvis it is very difficult it's the the hard covers becoming increasingly. Difficult for publishers to do so. I mean even though. There there are definitely people out there -- like tigers and a lot of people complain like I can't. Resell and he book yes it's a lot of people they wanna pass that book on someone else -- trying to you know Barnes & Noble Chinese have with sharing. One time out and that's that's one of these is. Is your e-book your over your night music is that available DR amber and -- -- on it is actually not available because. Penguin. You're -- publisher -- X it is who do who's doing the e-book is holding my e-book hostage right now. -- usually it usually exposed to come out two weeks after it launched. And so I'm I'm so -- year in the old publishing industry -- it might my book I've that self publish and I just put up there on here I -- now granted I know marketing support. Yet -- I mean what but but it's really cheap cheap -- -- that it that this you know I actually think that. Hardcover paperback sales. If the the publishers go out there was faced with debut author's words it's really hard to. The you know have it you don't have a built in audience you don't get a lot of publicity. -- to go out there and for 23 weeks have your e-book available for. 399. You get the book out the books this'll work mountain and I'm I'm surprised not more and more publishers are doing this right now there are few that are. And so I think that's really a model to help some of the paperback survive because really -- -- -- they're always going to be people at least for the next. Ten years they're gonna -- He -- books you could ask the world why publishers don't do that on Facebook's new questions feature. It's. Just launched yesterday. To I think about 1% 35 million people FaceBook has launched a new feature called questions where you can put any question up there and it shows up on your -- your new stream or your wall whatever it is and and anybody can answer. It competes with core and answers and our part to an extent and I and be a really excellent feature what this little side note here inside baseball side note apparently. All the tech journalists in the world are in this 1% and got access to it a weird we have very un -- like the actor that I noticed the pop but yesterday yeah I was -- But the world doesn't have access to it but we do great fit for you basically there were pandering to your the people who write about you -- I think it's interesting for one that it's also very it's very public it's exclusively public in the sense of the year questions at least. That -- at ask the question is not just limited to your friends and connections -- anything it's. Public public yet -- makes it very clear this is public this is going to be available on the entire Internet to everybody everywhere networker friend right you want to just ask your network of friends -- question they say use your wall -- Don't use this yes it makes sense but it also this it shows kind of Facebook's. You know road map toward ever more. Public yes sharing and can be -- -- that that's that's like the the lazy man's Google preview well I think you're I think you're exactly right I think what FaceBook is doing this because of their. If they -- this thing out well they -- some features like right now for example there's no. Index of your questions with them like on. This becomes a database basically every question that and but he hasn't based the world and all the answers and if they put this on -- -- they do their own. Qwest Q&A search. This is an incredible. Body of of knowledge might be wrong. I can nonetheless that the body of of social well it also -- -- and it and it has the kind of -- probably find the experts in each little field to right the people vote up and down the question we answer as they like. And it is kind of interesting how the question is although they technically could go out to all like 500 billion million. Users. That Facebook's in house engineered -- said that the question -- committed generate these questions and post them to the people they think. Are the most likely to have some kind of knowledge share on topics not gonna dot. They should public face of media and if -- -- -- -- -- to -- this -- it's the media that but I think that there's. There's. There is some comment about how. It makes sense that the answers -- -- you're you're limits attached about the question and the answer. You know the people who -- use their real name Sean people ask the question -- and let that there is gonna be a little bit to have. And -- below I think I would -- -- -- asking some questions yet -- Personal -- many inflation -- to a for effort right -- -- you know what do I do about -- horrible thrived since I know that's. That'll be attached and your name united did you guys know this with CNET has to say cold. Help dot com. We're basically. Exactly this -- transpires for people just throw out questions there's there's there's some pretty classic I think the mavericks like at least a hundred different web sites have no idea existed I had no idea about this look at -- face -- PD is registered. Just think it's -- also if you are interested in this there is a really cool start -- called art park which is mark PA RK dot com. Which is another social Q&A site which is. Will find you -- I am and say friend -- equipment that you wanna answer. He appoints the one thing I haven't seen FaceBook yet in questions is put the game mechanics in there where the more questions and answer the more patches you -- you know an expert such such I predict that's -- believe they had -- -- -- run on a cell phones or you could you could text in questions and my nephew movies to answer these questions you get in these kids we get like. Eight cents her for response. I think I remember hearing about the ten years ago I -- that was almost thought it was testing going well it. First worries -- -- some decent money but that it got extremely competitive they're just always these these -- to put fighting pretty sensitive -- I need to dollars and 41 cents today I want the bubble -- yeah the little guy. Oh that's right not a lawyer pointed out -- and artwork was purchased by Google. So. The battle is on or social network questions. Yeah it'll be actually see how the development what kind of questions asked -- what -- now it's. It is all right we'll have more questions about world that right after this quick break. We didn't notices and press but the next -- -- the Internet and anyway no relation whatsoever. Rim stock has jumped as people are predicting or talking about a new Blackberry. RM stock jumped on speculation. That next week. Now -- will release the touch screen -- -- haven't they done this before the end it didn't -- the stock deservedly not jump. Now with the storm remember that. With -- to see -- this CO has been talking about this one that it's this is this is this is the the revolutionary iPhone knock off number two I guess yeah I don't. -- but I -- the irony of course is that most Blackberry users. Like the physical keyboard hidden and and -- -- it isn't so much about touch screen with the Blackberry. Right those who associate a slider something bad too or or analysis communal touch screen we'd I don't know I mean there's -- residents say different things that the real thing this will have apparently is in the lawless. Whether or not it's physical keyboard or -- or touch or whatever it'll be in new OS. And you lie. I mean the storm had. And -- -- -- -- but presumably this will have you know more modern user interface I I don't think I'm being unfair to edit the current Blackberry interface. It is little -- to you know they -- method so. And of course with the new last will be new apps and a new app store and that's how you really get momentum going his view. Find the cool things you can do that aren't built in there that's what makes Android and iPhone so interest -- valuable as -- can. You know. Things like foursquare pop up I don't know where right now and the trick is to try to make something that's competitive to the iPhone -- but it still decidedly. Blackberry Blackberry and not pandering to that kind of in -- Just kind of copycat I loved that what what Blackberry. I would really panders to and quite successfully of course is the corporate market because it's not just about the form factor it's also about the corporate servers. And all that kind of stuff so they do have those and it's so. The company can be successful if they continue to maintain those relationships. But I I actually worry about that because I Android is such a flexible platform. That you know I'm I'm looking at them thinking that is probably the next corporate platform. For Smartphones and it's still it's it's pretty open as far as the kind of you know at it I don't know if it's as protective platform as well let. Me. And yet you -- via. The Blackberry fan boys -- -- And Android Apple and there's there's very subdued it on you compare well if I -- where I can do this Blackberry right now. They would come out and invest and I've done this before by mistake I'm afraid of the leopard has a Blackberry fan boys. They're they're they're quieter but they have they burn with the rage. It could happen and now is a picture of the slash campuses importantly the new black. -- the slide out underneath keyboard and a similar fish to the Palm Pre I think yeah. Again it's all about the corporate relationship. And a little story here just related to that rim has bought the domain name black hat dot com. Mobile -- is reporting that presumably this is a home for the new -- -- -- to talk about before. Really. I think this is probably just you know that -- Bunch -- -- and this is one of them but that would be like in a string of really bad tablet name the -- -- that other items that bad though this doesn't bring up any kind of hygiene issues you know music kind of other you know personal products. -- -- out I'll get on board with as the do -- -- -- -- I pattern that. And now the you have a point although I guess -- -- that we need the white pad. And then we have the beauty and you never got to do jeweler can now. -- I think I sacrificed he knows some offerings do it have a trade -- everything now on the -- -- Speaking of the white pad apparently Apple's as the reason that we can't have a white iPhone yet. Is because the white casing on the iphones -- the building suffers from -- lightly from the screen in on the back of a MacBook and MacBook pros logo lights up. Apparently they don't want that happened on the phones and that is exactly what is happening so the trying to figure out something. They have to invent black paint apparently for the inside of phone -- these things will never work because they can. -- -- That's and a cool that's a -- -- I would minded if it loads from within well and apparently that the whole like. IPhone leaking lightning instantly just kind via -- they're just taking extra time programming to be engineer at the antenna a little bit. -- -- and it didn't they already have a white iPhone that seem to be just fine yes yeah but I haven't collapsed on both sides through which the light would pour and I guess if this is a problem with the manufacturing here. -- like a couple of back to back. Kind of design flaws for Apple I mean not not only antenna -- you know the case for the -- iPhone like. This launch has not been -- Well let's see we've got we've got the antenna problems obviously -- the Bluetooth problems which we reported on. -- we have the proximity sensor issues. Now we have the lightly -- and the latest one apparently is Apple is finally probing complaints about -- for the upgrade on the iPhone three G really slowing it down to unusable levels. This is I mean I'm. I'm gonna sell I've iPhone three GU. I'm gonna sell it. And the big selling point is not upgraded to Iowa for me it's still running the old OS -- he can well this is also happening on the iPod Touch Steve yeah just -- -- -- how. Her second generation iPod Touch with the new violence line as he flew to the languages -- and anymore thinking about. But but you can't go back -- can you can 888 can be pretty tricky. When it will not just about doing -- simple restored through iTunes that he had I mean if you do a system restore you lose all your data on there like. Back to factory settings would take -- -- -- uses that anybody can restore from backup though. If you haven't yet potentially I don't know how -- a minute I think it's soldiers deployed to me Q. Upgrade to the iPhone you know I actually I actually -- had. Was entertaining the thought that that Apple servers were sending my iPhone three G -- -- packets -- slow it down just like so frustrated that -- the iPhone for. Which -- -- them -- And I left and and I know a year they're gonna start sending iPhone for no -- -- Why aren't I -- Purposely decided to skip this generation -- I knew I knew was. Beat you with went with Apple when they go to a new design it's always best in the way -- -- it it worked the kinks out but they're always going -- -- -- Now they build the next one I I would. I would bet that -- same design next year that and they pages and you know increase -- -- -- and 3GS was you know stuck around for years so I think they're they're they're very regimented company at this point. Now now and then this has happened to -- member with previous updates released from the iPod side of things. That there would be -- -- it was slow things down -- -- like first generation iPod Touch that came out when he got the update he had to pay five dollars or whenever. It may gaming really slow to -- -- south of that was that the and I noticed the most was that. -- out otherwise they pretty quick beavers -- this seems like a bigger version of that yeah yeah but down not not unprecedented. I don't know I don't wanna spend about curled who all uses except -- an upgrade. -- Black -- is on right now this is one of the big hacker conferences of the year the other one being Defcon and that's some really interesting news coming out of out of this conference. Item number one. The an Android mobile wallpaper app has been put out which you think just the wallpaper right downloading running it knew what it -- well apparently okay the it's better be some pretty freaking good wallpaper because what this wallpaper app does is collect your personal data and sends it. To a site somewhere in China. It it does things like take your email -- takes way to use -- -- your phone sim card number your subscriber information and your voice no password. Console in recent program your phone sends it to a server somewhere in China and this app. Has -- downloaded. Millions of times. This is an -- yet. From one point one of four point six million stick with a very -- number difference there had a lot in the noted there -- had -- this this is some been reported by John hearing uses CEO. Look at technology we we had him on our show about. Smartphone security and privacy. There's some interesting points here that even if you download that you have basically you never know I mean you download an app and it says it needs access to this that -- thing and you know it's an app that does that he -- you say okay now no one of the things about this though that is that -- -- out when the real -- here is that the latest version of Android. Lets you auto update your apps -- and an app that was safe today can be updated to become unsafe tomorrow and with this new feature you'll never know right. That we got a million users now let's flip the switch where we get all their information via. I the other thing that -- interest in the same piece is that there is that this statistic that says that roughly 47% of Android apps. Used some kind of third party code whereas 23% of iPhone apps do the same thing and so that their party code. A lot of times developers is kind of cutting and pasting some code -- get a -- of -- ad network or something like that. I am in most cases. That can actually -- in the code that they're copying pasting these -- library code right -- but in this code could be something like this where we're sending Albany that unity information. To some you know random person -- -- the the irony is if this was. Apple that it happened to this would be national news and in the all over the place where Andrew what this -- something similar to actually just happened there so go to Apple -- Citibank -- Was storing data in a non sandbox scratch file -- the iPhone -- Again the developers. Apparently there isn't yet a lot there's lot of developer education needs to be gone on and user education on smart on security it's -- -- -- on so these phones are best buddies now they have everything on us and we have them on us all the time and it does speak to the downside of having such an open you know free for all kind of -- one way you don't have the really strict checks in place that iron -- Apple -- reject apps. This -- that you would. And with Android now you would think that a device like an ATM the bank teller machine. Would be completely locked down and there'll be no way that you -- like hack into it but another. A black cat story says. That up Barnaby Jack who's director security testing at IO active. Bought. On the Internet a couple of ATMs. On the Internet he bought them again I didn't know Amazon had ATMs her -- but apparently they do to me like. Limited -- -- years poring over the code basically reverse engineering these machines. And figured out how to turn them into. Money making machines money printing if you -- -- pretty much. Put in some super codes and boom outcomes -- one of the things he figured out how to do was convince a machine that instead of having. Twenties and it has one button so if you ask for Rijndael instead of getting one -- -- get twenty. Nice return. Stuff like that it's. We've heard of course about these hard trapping things where you if -- -- little thing -- over the card. Slot and it meets the -- -- the art card and the keypad pin -- -- put him but this is is much deeper this is science fiction level like terminator. Where they can put the card in and -- -- -- -- money and these look like those kind of third party ATM machines that would otherwise take five dollars out of here which are getting out of it anyways those penny ATM machines in his find some men and 7-Eleven something. So much the actual like you know Wells Fargo -- I think as long as it's. Giving you money. Stealing if it -- it's not the worst thing yeah. Yeah exactly you're exactly right about that is -- that's totally fine to us -- from a bank. If if if Adam so. We predict more secure -- shortly. And Donald your kind of you're right. That the the ATM's that you should trust more. Or -- -- less are the ones that it has propped up outside of today there's like that although. I I I caution us to think that just because -- make him happens to be in at a chase or wells are BankAmerica. The bank. Front that it is somehow by nature. More secure definitely safe and I it. Because that -- who's to say. Not I. I think that's true I'd buy do you think that if you're going to use say like ring a wireless card reader things -- -- those on the front of an ATM machine. Probably better to do that with a foreign looking weird always party machine -- -- -- it is unfamiliar with the design anyway yeah and it's less likely to kind of be suspicious of the you know. Some little design and tweak. Where is the you know -- American machine use every day. If you saw some hunk of plastic hanging -- the fun of it. He'd be a little suspicion -- consequence of creating more and more does it. It's I have always wondered how much money is in those machines those little machines because they do right now and -- to get filled so. In -- they couldn't you can take that money -- Well. Let's back -- this thick Cupertino that the law is it is a fair chunk of change now. Yeah and I assume it's a much bigger stats. And -- -- how often do you see -- and actually out of money. In -- generally write the word processor either from CNET New York is. -- -- -- -- -- like a year to crack you know the system I'm -- it's more than just like Konami code to get now. 3000. -- -- attitude. Yeah finish it and. Invincibility. We talked yesterday about the the guy who had basically skimmed all the public. Names and information off of FaceBook government about a hundred million names and stuff out of the unprotected FaceBook. Site. He had spoken up his name's Ron -- he's a security consultant -- that he originally. Went through FaceBook. For the salt could because he was creating security products and he wanted to created a brute force. Username and password hacker and he needed a dictionary of username so it outlawed -- FaceBook which he did. So he skimmed a hundred million names off of FaceBook. And along with that got this other data and then realized this could be of value to somebody -- So we put on the -- So I was with of up to that point and if you think you know I really need to share the data with everybody the so the motives were written over and this is the whole issue of that kind of the white hat gray hat hacker thing and then how legit -- Any better this guy who put it out there and -- went public then somebody. Grabbing all this data not telling -- body and exploiting it terribly. But still. Yes -- go all the information is public right I -- all he did was he's collected in a much more concentrated. Potent form. They used easily for trying to crack passwords and and using right. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Public you know if I make my you know FaceBook profile public or makes them Yahoo! profile public might -- who's gonna really. You know are checked by then something like this can go on and make BI I just need to make everything I've excuse he certainly gimmick and -- -- a place that right so. The reason. That it is important that this information is protected is not because that the information on FaceBook by itself. Is dangerous to you -- its. Your FaceBook information. Plus your Google browsing history plus -- Amazon information plus whatever it is he put on all around that's all put together somehow -- That people build dossier is not from one source -- from several sources and that's where. Things start it'll bit scary and that's in fact interestingly. Just briefly it just what Google and this. And that's CIA are doing right now they're investing in this future of the web monitoring thing it's with a product called. It just didn't -- this -- and wired dot com it's called. Recorded future and it's a government program that basically scans the entire Internet. And starts to build connections between people. It like it makes FaceBook social graph it's. Weak sister -- because it's getting the entire net and building the network. Of all your relationships and connections and commerce and stuff from public information arguably -- but information that has never been available for him. I mean how -- you guys put disinformation. In in it whether it's surveys or even I mean considering change my birthday on FaceBook change I just what you wish me happy birthday yeah fifth -- think that the actual. Were born in with your father's maiden name or whatever or Peter but if you're gonna get beaten and like betacast animation is a lot easier to find now with some especially some -- -- collects at all if I examine connections and dogs name all that. -- -- -- -- Yeah and you McDougal you dogs in Amber's gonna be stolen. You would like to put a silly video of your dog up now on YouTube you can now put -- a fifteen minute video up. YouTube just this morning said the ten minute limit of for most videos that's now been upped the fifteen minutes -- So five more minutes of your silly dog video. How -- I wonder how much that costs -- to store that. That much more -- I don't know. That that probably has some impact you know it's gonna cost us a lot -- -- brain cells -- and a longer badly YouTube video also -- eaters let's uploading now when you need it you know. Pirate something off television put it up in two parts now instead of three part. Thirty minute. You know version of -- -- -- that's a lower pirating by. We're making it easier or maybe I'll -- pirates and users of pirated content deal you know get to -- half hour episodes. Anyway so for those you were miffed at the ten minute limit it is now being increased by 50%. And -- can get some points mills oh oui -- department jail breaking and warranties recently so we got this. What's -- from Michael -- Michael from a all the love the show what would -- a local business but -- -- -- repair all the sudden. IPhone until breaking fuse it with the services that's pretty common and advertised and that news and -- view. -- came about but -- but it's not one now. -- -- -- That's regarding the DM CA ruling that jail breaking is now are modifying your phone adamantly is now illegal and we predicted that there'd be like you know -- -- jailbreak you can hear it it's. Let -- be something like a subway restaurant that was taken on the menu. And you can Tokyo reality jailbreak yet that -- -- news they'll start doing these little little cellphone stores and yeah booking is if it had nothing to that already though -- have a back room he decided yeah it's there exactly yeah. -- -- -- -- -- buy cars getting Washington get your phone children element kargil and if yes. That's the only and I get that happened -- chip in the car. Alright we -- have new email from -- in Ontario. Says. -- voluntary -- -- -- right is it dealt. That means in here now though -- I'm listening to yesterday's podcast -- realize that read an article about the key -- -- the Internet which it names. It names one of the Canadians holding one of the keys articles in the Toronto star -- point here. Yesterday morning and clearly identifies the person including the picture and city where he lives not only are we trusting these seven people of this info where telling the world who they are. Scary of the show. Wow -- that's the whole idea here having this -- is this secure key that is so it's -- has to be distributed among seven people. Is the first rule is you don't tell the world who seventy block certain. You you have a couple people who know. And basically nobody else -- -- Canadians are so polite to one another -- probably when -- have a hard time. You know I think I'm not worried Medicaid TV I'm not you're the key -- are not worried about people they know master in Canada and other Canadians. -- -- I all of that as the -- the world. It was a fake it was the release whole indeed maybe -- -- long seven people. If we should have noticed that Canadians are smaller than we think he. Hmm they're very smart alright we have Brian writing in saying just a few comments on windy Wednesday's show. If -- that is down -- at least five people booked flights to get one common area. -- before it's the that the shadow orbits and oh yeah and this -- -- this is -- that -- it goes down. And if they -- before the military echelons that was the name and -- -- thought about this pre show what is the name of the NSA program that records every communication electronically it happened excellence in half ago I -- you're gonna get ahead -- -- -- says that Google Chrome has options -- browser cookies as -- -- it is actually makes -- -- -- -- built in the room so Mario. Right it's another email here from Angel from Puerto Rico I think him let's do I was a little behind the -- -- -- episode twelve -- V8 and 1279 when you -- -- discussing Apple's new track pad for desktop. You forgot that -- mentioned one interest in aspect. It should be great at HT PC control system. Anybody -- own small wireless keyboard could financing and home theater system however -- isn't really working that couch environments the with the track pad and multi touch gestures. You know how much more improved operational HT PC from the couch. -- -- both wireless keyboard and track pad and Mac mini and you've got you know perfect and but it's -- Yes we even need the -- he -- to at all mean. I'm just waiting for mine control. I think that Apple already controls remind him that the volume. Anyway he's gonna from the wild adventure and I forced -- -- -- gonna -- -- -- -- but it's him. We're we're almost there where at least at least what more voice control right if you're shouting at television at midnight -- -- other little battle will be. Shouting matches it. Jumper or -- news and I think in a perfect world this would actually be great for home theater system but I think this particular implementation had some sort clicking mechanism that requires sponsor. You can actually click it. None and and and -- company to do the tactical thing. A message that set it up in in the allies -- do tapped collecting them yet -- their their little buttons on the bottom that the so you press them yet little clip like them like a MacBook I but you can also do the test that like on in most other read on it. Well you should be able to use the iPad. With years. Hey Leo I've had is like -- giant anti dollars and remotely. And with your TV in the Mac -- whatever you know it that they. I think there ms. -- Bluetooth in there. So leave the field of fashion something that you haven't lived in the via iPad does the remote controls that it just it looks a greasy after policeman then -- I had any you keep that Iran doesn't look like he got whipped -- now. Of course of a -- you get that he gonna get that -- that. Yeah. What it's your iPad it's like. Allow me to play content like teams in uniforms. I it's -- very bizarre thing on the train today -- those coming in here. This guy was playing with his iPad. And it was condensation. All the fun and it nominal -- had -- in his bag with flakes some. Cold drink something it but he was it completely ignored the compensations who's playing this game and -- is really bizarre. Is -- that the front of the iPad was way to its frosted yes it would it was incredibly bizarre a craftsman like a really engaged users just sweating to his -- -- Yeah. Actually I went there hello Aaron -- -- so Blackberry Blackberry users how about this for today's Blackberry question. And we're talking earlier about kind of the new the future of Blackberry devices so you guys are probably the best ones ask in the new era of Blackberry. What do you prefer. That would you prefer to stick with -- heart of the hardware keyboard or would you like touch screen Blackberry -- comment. Via Blackberry messenger -- pin number is 245. 23 C 65 -- answer that or kind of -- your idea of what the perfect Blackberry device -- be in future will really don't much. 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