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In this week's podcast, Jessica, Nicole, Bonnie, and Kent set their sites on the Asus Padfone, the latest in the AT&T/T-Mobile merger saga, and more.
Hello it is a Wednesday did you first hear it listening to dialed in -- welcome podcast and your host -- court -- in studio today. By Kent German and Nicole Lee and new York and San Francisco. And -- Cologne I think we wish we are all in New York with the -- air -- the weather here rain. I. And -- -- pretty humid the latest hot -- in the morning and we've got Bonnie Todd is actually New York. I am completely -- here and there and -- they're technical project. Though it sounds like it's going to be -- and fictional -- coming -- because T-Mobile has announced. Once state and pricing for the HT -- sensation orgy. Very nice thing going to thank you haven't practiced entitled. I was impressed. I make up for earlier -- -- and a -- Yes they have finally announced pricing and availability and it's going to be available as early as June 12 at select -- Wal-Mart stores and then. In T-Mobile stores by June 15 and the costs will be 200 dollars with a two year contract after fifty dollar -- -- And this is -- from their time extremely excited to get him back on it's. Am HTC's latest -- are injury to proponent has a dual core or one point two gigahertz -- -- a four point 38. -- -- for point three inch HD display -- as well as. Android 2.3 -- bread and the latest version. HTC sense and -- also be the first device you want with. At HTC's new beauty -- store called watch. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Am I being the one pick up what this device is that it only has about one gigabyte. Internal memory available to the user. And so now lot of people than -- well -- Scott Sampson got PS2 which has sixteen -- visitors -- -- now. It but it you know pick -- PS2 hasn't been announced her. A US carrier yet and doesn't have -- state and I can't potentially affect pricing as well. And -- it -- though. Back and silly experiment with things like way above me and this was a CS -- -- Net and this wasn't -- back in April -- can actually yet terrorism post -- and congress. Definitely 100. I think. That we see. There and another phone that was so -- it's actually no longer available to -- about. SO DT to -- -- -- G two accidents -- keep an antigens priests you. Moments ago and at it's it's currently temperate temporarily out of stock on T -- online store. And on the calls follow all iPods and I thank you those he says hardest I it's time. Everybody went out involvement even people who weren't T-Mobile -- right so and that is some speculation. Online is to have been some. -- parts of -- of -- -- units out there in the wild. I know random -- sent me some phones have apparently -- -- issues in the display. I'm I'm not our unit is perfectly fine and which is why he gave it such high marks that we understand that we know that somebody units out there. And as little -- won't say that. The act and the ad's effectiveness is that we have a lot of users and comments in the writing in seeing that they have had problems with their phone. So maybe did -- -- off the shelves of -- and who knows. It just thinking that I didn't mention yet it just does that just -- -- a few days ago. -- -- the increased the price the key to acts Hughes 24999. He was previously one. 191919. But is now 250 -- it just bumped it up so it's it's just out well because it is honest. -- want a man in the past and I don't get. Like with all their phones. They want to lure you in with the prize and -- -- to being. There's the man actually just like rats at that Apple will let you want and maybe maybe the phone is so great in such high demand and you can more money at it is well. -- -- And it's very confusing I have to -- at the dignity the pages but I'm currently temporarily out of stock. On on -- to all the people sit -- -- actual T-Mobile store. He -- have still -- to -- phones available. So -- depends in -- -- vineyard. It's clear -- that -- just. Well in the ninth I wanna. It's -- stores yesterday -- worker works by AT&T store and they were having some sort of pulling in and they were -- and around -- analysts talking and talking and components and -- He should have accidentally your iPhone really rightly or something rare -- men. I am not roles you know. -- keep market -- keep walking and frankly ten times and -- -- But I just -- right here in a glass I don't know Yatom -- -- receiving an excellent. Or AT&T. AT&T -- -- -- -- -- So this next story as when that person make it feel a little bit interested and excited to remember of course how could you forget the Motorola -- tricks forgy and that. Sort of infamous laptop dock -- and will all -- year wrote about that. Asus or suits. Had bone which sort of I guess it is -- product and that -- steering. That. Though this isn't -- -- Can't detect this week and it and like you said it kind of the same concept as the laptop dock for the so basically all the processing power or the contents comes from the Smartphone which is a four point three inch Android I'm from there's -- on details about this product yet but. So far we know that it can be -- and has a four point three inch screen but. You can basically -- into this ten point one inch tablet and used that the tablets larger display and built in speaker -- And officers as add another battery source so as long and god is charged. -- The terrible name yeah I know I but the car. And that is pretty interesting it seems yes Martha thoughtful and laptop dock and not -- a cheaper. Right. And there -- so they're staying. That it could ship by Christmas started that's their hope and that. They've dropped some hints that it will -- ice cream sandwich which is the new version in doing so. We'll have to -- bank. And ambient -- -- this kicks off more than the laptop did you write to you think the commercial that was bad because I haven't -- -- on -- Oh yeah in bad day creepy to see you and happy yet kind of disturbing -- -- CNET Asia. Actually is. Create division has seen an agent. -- elect act architect and author habit a couple of ideas listings and present on -- at that this announcement. Things like you know if if smart phone person is sort of the brain that well. Laptop -- gonna -- to be able to use your laptop. Without it and you can out of -- brick -- in equipment. And so present on about how old -- thicker but it's cool that it you can leave a phone features while you charge -- It just seems like a really interesting device to me and -- not I -- works better than the laptop -- I think you think we're gonna see a lot -- -- like those calling for. I think to -- because. I'm wondering is the tablet will. Did the form factor will be little -- with other phones imagine if it is the phone improves over time and it's an exodus. As an. -- phone next year. In an Asus 2.0. You will still fit into the -- if it is still -- into the scene. Dot. The whole -- as a matter of -- not to thicker teeth it. Yes I mean I think that it will see more this in the future and. I think he. Factors can be pricing I think part of the problem with the laptop -- for that -- was you know it was just so expensive and yes and no problem because it's not cheap I mean they are essentially making tablet but it doesn't have all of the -- in the view inside of it. However it's still not gonna be. A hundred dollars you know. Right -- by Christmas I'm not -- non immigrant and maintenance and -- concept -- I think they would do better to bundle it and finance make it a lot later. And sell volume. -- -- Because it's it's cool but -- testing concept I don't know if the hardware is down appealing design -- -- does look and -- and kind of clunky. But the concept itself is now -- treating. So -- you got phones across ever and I mean. Market where -- to -- I have I am on ending that -- I don't what is the next what -- -- next -- what I didn't know but it'd be the pants -- cross over and that it isn't a good. Me I'm in for a sound. If we have not forgotten about the found machine. Client called health about the content. -- searches for -- from every background. Yes so the parents across an event. Is an entry level Android Smartphone from -- -- this is -- essentially firsts. On Android -- for the US and an I don't demand may Sanford aegis option but this is a -- out keyboard -- Android floating. And -- -- to felonies display 600 megahertz processors three megapixel camera and it -- -- and ninety prints she would just okay for an entry level. Smartphones it's also it also claims to be rugged and durable because -- -- -- the rubberized sides in the back of the pack and -- So it's very affordable and it will retail for around seventy dollars between -- -- -- disagreement. I'm starting June fit. And I guess it's called a crossover because it's crossing you over from. A feature phone to a smart I guess that's that's the idea apparently the very fact that -- Yeah some of the mistress you know -- -- and I like. -- -- -- -- It's kind of I don't know -- -- block he hadn't yet kind of out yet but it's -- I mean and it's aggressive I think it's time he asked who put -- -- and I assume. And -- and -- -- Android phones that are coming few US cellular as well. So has been getting some good phones in the end they're definitely up there with getting -- really hot and bright -- These -- at the HTC marriage with I think Bonnie mission. Before and the elegy Genesis the HCC marriage is. CD in the and -- yes and chipset. To pony in stress keen to 24 -- for megapixel camera. Bonnie you've handled this before right. -- -- -- briefly at ETA -- you know it's it's a lot lake. T-Mobile G two in the evo ports it looks like global yes yes when they say is the fifth at the street fly rather than sort of about hints that yeah -- yeah yeah. That looks good actually in the thrilling and and I Yang and like. The build of it very much and I you know I think a lot of people on sprint and Verizon are looking for that global global smell function absolutely put at a keyboard and -- -- -- That one yet he had -- -- on -- right. The jet is an interesting story is sixty eat from what I understand is the next generation of that those featured elegy and be messaging phones from Verizon Wireless a physicists and exit the and the Android version of that kind of there's a variety in the yeah I get the -- the end the other end and legs and looks like -- like on the keyboard and buttons they pick a default space yet -- that really -- -- days. Didn't match your client. Because the right and right about that area with directional pass and ran their buttons on them and other keypad buttons on the front yes there's a number keypad button Gina looks best nowadays. And virtual keys -- -- -- yet -- down textile physical -- -- front there. And this is a dual display found on the front Jessica external display in -- middle isn't an internal display. And found the key means it's a very roomy keys and you have to physical and nineties -- it used to have. In a phone of this -- is the envy series I was the only way to stars feature films when they were good everybody -- -- to also -- -- yes this is kind of light. If you if you liked that series of phones you lunch hour and drank my misses can of the phone to get real and -- US and other exclusive. And interest and ray so am I don't know -- number sex from I don't know if he'll go to -- -- -- -- but for now it's it's an exclusive I don't. Hear from a lot of breeders -- -- -- -- -- amuses you it certainly don't have a lot of readers that use the service -- I know I think do you usually here from -- people are pretty satisfied me because they have -- -- pricing which is really nice yeah. And they haven't really around in them yeah I had -- don't they have their names there's a -- equivalents explain. -- so if you. Yes this has been. Well both phones are 150 dollars each and and she -- manages available today and anti Genesis will be available June. -- on the opposite end of the US cellular spectrum is the Samsung program that I am reviewing. And -- will be out on Friday. Q what are -- called Akron that it's not so different about it is a way back to -- agreement has you know acute speaker and and the -- -- relieve Molina -- two and QVGA screening. VGA camera. It lean and laid it looks like every other Samsung flip thing you've ever seen by the -- is. Unbeatable if you by our contract at the penny. Which is essentially that -- industry. And -- only twenty dollars is a prepaid option. So far and mine called -- call quality has been impeccable so if you're just looking for a -- to -- calls for you or for somebody else. So significant -- with comfortable treatment and found very. Of course did you just give the phone -- and the penny Monday got to cover -- -- I actually they're bad people bring in a penny. Or not. I heard Charney you have -- Carolina artists take depending they didn't and eighty and -- don't like I mean I don't. But that it. That's what area -- -- down and are you really gonna call -- creditors presenting -- -- mean -- spelling English. For five cents plea for help in connection -- he -- Angeles in the sense that this comes about comics and that thing looks way too generic basic phones -- people too. It does look generic when you're old and young it. It looks pretty good actual hardware of the phone I think also -- -- generic that's picture. On the -- ethnic that would greatly when the maximum flat but it's got -- of -- like. Glossy color and out of menus it's it's pretty boring in an Arial I mean it and there are suddenly. Its -- on the child behind -- Give it a slightly different like I was looking through are Cadillac with the parents anything that -- an obsolete maps and it's like they're on cookie cutter but somebody immediately jangled. The cutter a little bit like a slightly different shape but -- recognize that -- generic but also reliably you know exactly here. Pregnant but where we don't -- -- gonna get yet with AT&T in the T-Mobile merger sprint kind of come out with fist swinging. Very generally well they've done. Yeah I mean ever since that merger was amount raised and the moments. -- sprint yesterday formally asked the FCC to block the -- and this of course AT&T is 39 billion dollar bid took part in mobile. They formally file they filed a petition to the ninth it's 377. Pages long. -- -- -- -- -- But and interestingly enough that is only mean four pages less -- eighteen t.s application with the FCC which added. So anyway. His -- -- and pages and sprint is saying that the merger does not have has no public interest. And -- and when I broke down a few lines basically the when these are not no surprise threats of this many times for. That it would impact America's economic growth that it would lead to poor service and higher prices and wireless industry about harming competition. And it would -- -- and efficiently to those things and it would stifle innovation by creating a duopoly between Verizon. -- -- handed -- those spans or whether -- quotes in here. And you know beyond as the FTC. And FCC in the FTC rules will look at it may decide. Congress is also -- a couple hearings and CES sprint CEO -- C spoke before those but congress has an apparent mistaken saying -- -- they can make recommendations. -- -- -- -- -- Enhancements -- -- happy about this season. It's just the language in if you compare -- to the language that AT&T. Delivered group like the merger is good for America. And you you to and we hope we don't cellphone service you now it. Yeah I was it was from the -- -- and ridiculous and and assuming an -- that comments -- fine point I mean I doubt many people -- premiums petition. Some of -- -- during and -- seven pages for sprint a company that tries to be so -- -- -- -- as print out that they're doing this for there is a viable and I would recommend you don't. Me by. Suspenseful. And I -- in the comments are -- -- people owners. For opulent undisturbed for to get approved -- -- movement of people listening in this instance can -- mean. Otherwise I don't think adding -- -- fighting for the survival. And sprint has of their bottom lines a business absolutely and it's that it -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Me I'd be disappointed at sprint and rolled over totally yeah. And you know it. There's an argument to be said that is it's good for us to -- -- make -- say that they're fighting for our. Consumers' choice and all of that and -- a happy consumer advocate groups. Going up against the mergers law that been adding -- -- it at a hearing congress and a few weeks ago that it. Yeah it's a it's a big deal. -- -- -- -- -- -- Verizon hasn't gone on the record is anything and then and now. Does this mean I know I know I don't like doing it AT&T and I found that -- has it that sprint is no way. The sprint sprint really is the one that has the most to lose here chances. -- if you really have these too big to big companies. And people Sprint's the one that's really didn't -- I doubt people are gonna. Leave many people are gonna leave Verizon to move it to me that this rates to gigantic companies and -- such a big gap between in the Sprint's upper parts carriers such a big gap between now and Verizon or AT&T right now if -- it was the second. Largest. Today they have the most women most of the regionals and frank -- a -- some of the regionals are saying they don't. -- -- -- -- -- -- Some it was -- business owners are and people like that. But then you have a lot of lot of rural communities and community groups that are -- actually in their bond in the -- the only way to their anecdotes he service and so. United or divided on that Communist rule carrier and advocacy group side. Seconds we'll see when it happens. With that lot there are lots of fireworks to -- in the meantime Motorola is going to be rolling out gingerbread Q2 of its Droid phones there's the trade acts. I am and that should have started I -- 27 heard a lot about it. Updates today as well and then the Motorola -- tricks might need next in line for gingerbread as well. Our partners Scott Webster wrote about that and basically. Worth looking for. It's you. It's their commitments from a couple this is pretty soon gagged and it should but apparently ain't it supposed to be not a lot of local blogger and more like the Texas entrepreneur updates. In order in which a lot of moto -- kind of disappeared via U. Now so back -- -- And gently to -- apparently chip which. And then Scott also took elect and element is rumored to be the next -- and possibly. It basically is a -- -- the screen -- fat. Most everything and there's -- little -- that I came initially different tack on. So Scott Burnett are -- speculation that it can carry the Nvidia tegra three. Platform. That was recently sent -- a tactile will come out yet exactly. I have somebody in an Nvidia -- -- if you like Superman products yeah yeah it -- and the other restaurant at city yeah okay our column comes. Then again also speculation that there'll be ice cream sandwich as part of it makes sense that -- the next flagship yet. Fell at -- and of last week. And we heard also out of each it was. Nokia conversations. China and just. -- some of the Pacific Pennsylvania who with interviewing with that somebody with interviewing. Nokia feed it has given in. Basically -- that Nokia is going to -- supporting Symbian and well at least when he sixteen. While and -- not being just leaving it like at that stinky fish that's five more years expired more uses Symbian have known. So when he was pressed he confirmed that Nokia is going to maintain customer service and buy it. It wasn't really clear if there was a lot of keynote or in development and there's definitely it's still an emphasis on the partnership. -- -- -- At this point though why would you even buy it seems so ought to mean that quite would you buy a dying platform -- -- -- used to milk out of it -- The more I think it's -- fellow at -- banana. As -- they think it's also from. Our standpoint it's hard to understand but in other parts of the world Symbian touch I know what that's -- Popular platform him you know EI and understand that -- can't can't -- drop -- you know you have all these customers around the world that there. Using these phones and -- -- to continue -- so. -- isn't. It -- if it. She is stopped recently but that allowed under the Symbian was number one around the world we need yeah and especially so great I -- Nokia are about. Symbian -- simulating a very popular and well -- well loved to. Lists them and then then -- -- and general's well yeah so. So that'll be interest and interest saying I've read some analysts report that kind of and there's it in -- at least a couple of -- -- at the venture will fail the partnership with Nokia and Microsoft. There's some shaky confidence and I'm not sure how this announcement -- into -- And again much artists and ordered him -- he said. And then. Really quickly I -- -- revisited the -- replenished which was an eco fun without an entry level entry phone. And I got I got sprint -- and mean insular charter -- isn't an optional thirty dollar back cover. That you could -- and I -- and -- fear what that actually dead and and credit disappointed with it fell -- Canon -- a little puppies on mobile solar trial chargers and if there -- that. And they can take a quick look at that it basically I also looked at thank him from the -- -- reviewed and that kind of has solar charter. Party built in. -- -- Right it's part of it through if you happen to just be in the right place and the right timing get a little based. That's no problem I kind of don't think that that's thirty dollars -- and has -- thing you know you have an extra piece to -- -- or to remember. And then it's just -- specific at very high maintenance I called it and happily hold it in the -- in specific angle. -- -- and take a long time and easier to get a little bit of a charge. And so if -- -- -- lucky you live in Arizona New Mexico he -- suddenly. All day -- or something right added that -- -- help. -- hit. And had a son -- -- behind us -- -- have to point at a certain way a it and you know I had -- really -- testament from a phone because it was -- -- your updates and news desk in here and -- -- Las Vegas finally happens. Put it on the table -- -- school and OK but. You know it'd take a long time to get a little. Yeah its -- -- -- by the pool and -- -- -- says. Maybe you are maybe you owner authority part of the -- picket at. It makes it Spencer added if that doesn't increase the cost items humans but if you're gonna have to buy an extra thirty dollar. In -- covered just the thing and your behavior environmentally friendly and he -- -- those dams solar charger excess Sunnis that you plug into your phone. And those are -- how much those but if their cheap enough I think you need me. But even then you know. Yet even and it's it's it's it's a child man fell. We've got some review and then -- questions coming up after the break. If you. -- And are backed by having directly into a review of -- you look at the algae revolution. Yes says the LX revolution. It was Ferris can't be making it needs here. -- -- I Frist -- -- at CES 2011 and them. I thought this was going to be in the US vision of the optimists. You act but of course it turned out the key to act as the -- real. You has vision of that -- meant. It CD. Cool looking phone four point three display so it's pretty biggest -- you can of big and clunky but that's kind of the way a lot of these high end phones aren't these days. You know money the -- pretty big Detroit -- -- the -- excuse -- something that's kind of par for the course for Verizon anyway. I'm pretty nice clean not a all of that anything is this backlit LCD that's pretty nice and colorful. -- megapixel camera on the back -- photo quality actually even though its new five megapixel and eight pixels that a front facing one point three megapixel camera. And ninety point two. It doesn't LG's own interface -- you're not huge. Instead it's not too distracting is not spew. It is indicative that it isn't in a few too much of that with the stock and exodus find. It does have being on hand it doesn't have global -- that it's powered by. Being instead which can be a disappointment if you don't like being his presence keeps on that right -- -- that so now one of those. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Google -- and I brought there was a windows phone seven I would say about it and -- it was a windows phone seven active and fully expecting on -- but this -- -- no global Android and you just expect Google to be the mainstay here. I am back to Verizon apps can get it up you know vcast. Easy navigating vcast media manager and all of that's -- -- yet. But the main thing about this phone analyst talking about it comes at Netflix. Built right in when you buy it. So preinstalled doubt this is a big deal because Netflix currently is only. Unsupported by like five Android phones or something like that so this is kind of big deal if you're into -- if you re -- -- -- watching. On the -- the tablet HDMI out he has the Chinese support seeking it's really -- -- A multimedia experience -- -- rhapsody some really good music around ability as well. My -- Downsides is that -- -- mission. -- -- retribution. One gigahertz processor. Five megapixel cam it doesn't -- -- which is great. But -- the whole thing about it being a revolutionary device it's not quite up there when it. The dual core -- not quite up there with those phones yet -- really have everything you really want them right up front it depicts it it's a really decent. Great Android phone but because of the being stealth because of the unit of Verizon apps and and in out is it's not -- But the best of the -- on Wednesday but it is still pretty great phone it makes calls. Testifying to four GL -- -- -- the LTE speeds here in San Francisco. Just did not compared to the ones in New York -- at the -- like. By 86 -- -- -- get 56 gigabytes megabytes per second to get it. But naming it patents but but you all for fifteen or something had -- it and -- -- Guess they're just lucky here. Good night out of it -- know this is where. And let my twelve megabytes. And bringing her credibility of the -- epic work on that. But yet no -- agree it's a decent phone by megapixel cam. -- -- -- any Ph.D. video played in is a really good martini yet in you know just don't expect anything. -- of the Titanic as its. It didn't have many other down point is that it does cost the same price as the -- -- -- 250 dollars at allot them out. -- pretty pricey. And you don't get quite the same things that you get quite simply as the joint central dependable so I don't know. I I would supper around -- -- made -- that that's just the prices very he turned to me. It's. -- -- mention -- right and let's ministry wants the HTC trophy. Yet. This is finally Verizon's first windows phone device and we actually took a look at the unlocked originally -- -- -- -- the fund spent out. For a few months in international markets in beyond those have been on this -- in that this was there their first windows phone device. Just because it's kind of middle of the road and -- a very nice compact form factor. They start screen it's honest. Now it's the point eight inches play compared everything else now mandated you know not turn violent man that's getting -- Yeah but I mean I like you know I can't think it's a good size he can do most things just fine. Though it it's it is shipping with that their latest -- -- update so you're getting copy and paste and better. You know some of the performance enhancements. And it's also world phones that as a kind of -- -- edition and it was just expecting to be feeding me me but -- -- The -- overseas. And Verizon has a policy where you know it comes preinstalled with a sim card but if years. In good financial standing and you've been a customer for at least sixty days and they -- the things they can opt out if he'd like. Oh yes it is dead. A couple of disappointments in the camera. HTC -- a lot of really good thing but cameras seemed to be there and on fall and that really true of the trophy. Has a five megapixel camera but it does. And he conceived of photos and one -- review but it's pretty awful. And it doesn't get that much better outdoors with which is where it can do -- their camera -- -- usually do okay but not much in this case. Them. And the other thing of battery life seems to be a little bit on the shorter side I just finished -- -- -- battery testing iPad about five hours of battery life of continuous talk time. And testing generally -- and usually having to charge the phone by early evening in the afternoon and oh yeah -- to say on the same but this is the same thing that the alleged violation is 9 -- full this morning and -- -- it's -- halfway down. Now -- -- via aborted halfway Matthews pulled his north and that's reportedly. Yet and the trophy -- three GM -- in. Grade either. By a you know I think. I think there's an audience for a -- I think it's a good kind of transition device if you're going from the feature phone -- Smartphone. Being one of the benefits of windows -- it has very user friendly interface much more so than Android though. You know I would definitely recommend going into -- if your kind of ready to make an attempt to -- that -- this story and try it -- and if you like and eighth and I -- it's priced at 14999. With a two year contract to spare I think it could probably sell more if there maybe fifty dollars -- but it. Aesthetic and think it. Probably a good option appeared make ready to make an attempt on our feature -- But you know anyone who wants the -- -- dual core the third me well and going into it yet not -- They didn't -- price inflation I'm wondering if it's everyone's moving to its. Verizon especially is moving grazing incidence there as well they're really -- place but that we also are seeing it feature inflation that's -- -- bigger screens were seen better screen with a -- like an orgy in dual -- analysts say the price inflation makes sense is defeating -- goes along with the right to be -- -- -- why's it's expensive. I think that's part of it. Some of my issue with Verizon praising them and their phones are. I think are overpriced bird that very reason might be don't have the features that's necessary to warrant the light -- pricing charging. Another argument for a merger with -- -- as it does that. -- -- -- -- So I think we don't mind you answer a couple of questions. Jasper from California and who office and have a voice mail and also sent us an email. And of looking at the HTC inspire four -- and that LG Phoenix. Like a hundred and last but is on -- -- which it has big hands. That once -- with the big screen but also something compact and light. And of having trouble by -- to screen -- matter and also is that there and apartments for. And -- Medicare does highlight of the screen size. I mean I really think. 3.5 has the bare minimum and I mean and I think it I'm would argue that arsenic can get a little too as well -- -- for those are two very different phones that the Phoenix is pretty entry level. Yeah and inspire for -- gene. -- -- -- -- Stepping up and moved it it is and they think it's one and the better values of -- at -- -- -- and forget the screens on them and -- authority. But I think that's what probably one of my favorite. Android devices on AT&T. This because it has that good quality. And the quality -- -- -- known for a good features that an 800 dollars you know. Players -- yeah I think they're very rich yeah so I mean I may have no problem recommending -- inspire forgy. -- If you wanna take a look at the -- Infused. And get confused with those -- forgy. Which had the four point five inch screen if you -- like -- screened but they but Samsung kept it relatively spend so. It might be a form factor that year Ocalan and buy it. You know going in to -- -- don't feel like an entire has a four point three -- and a pack of them but you beat. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It would fit easily in most pockets I think but you know it's the kind of -- so we can't depends on what you want out of -- device thickness of the it's just not back haven't -- Are able if you don't have anything else to -- let's move onto burners question burner as a US sailor in Japan. -- -- an iPhone and wants to know why lots of phones are branded as world phones when it they rarely seems to be compatible all over the world now. That's just because -- phone -- -- in you can spot -- card does not mean it will work in other countries. Networks. Yeah -- there are countries that traditional GSM that we use here will not work the second disk in Japan it's going to be which it seems to be where you are and also South Korea. Other place and then -- but GSM will work in most of the countries around the world as long as you have a quad band and you get a return them to. Phone and its GSM bands that we use in the US or 81519118. Need to band if you need to use it overseas it -- -- to have. 900 in 18100 so you wanna make sure those are there and all forward them and there. If you don't like Japan and Korea throughout Japan uses is just on -- it's just onto. Three G service an amendment on a long time ago and really don't have the traditional system. So that's why when you travel you'll need to easily when he -- to annually to them. You'll need to rent. I mean that iPhone -- -- they sell the iPhone manner but. It hasn't reduced service and with it if you don't have. And I PV don't have a Smartphone or traditional -- device that doesn't. Support three G -- and it's not gonna work that sound you just wanna be careful what you need to have three G to work in Japan and South Korea and then you need at all for GSM. And so I hope we answered your question -- If you have other questions or comments you can email them to -- filed -- at cnet.com. And also some -- voicemail. -- -- -- -- 4022638. And as always check out our post at dialed in dot cnet.com. That for this week theatre all next week MCF okay Barry -- -- --