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Dialed In 139: A phone of Epic proportionsThe T-Mobile G2 is coming! Uh, about time. Plus we discuss the Nokia N8, the viability of Symbian OS, and the titular phone, the Samsung Epic 4G. We also review the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10, the Motorola Droid 2, and more.
It's Wednesday August 18 Sony fan and you're listening to it's out in -- cellphone podcast and senior associate editor in the -- he. Dying here in studio with the senior editor can't Canon I don't. And ticket -- PDC -- all right hello hello. And senior editor Bonnie -- -- in New York had no no Jessica until card is on vacation at the moment. She's attending her sister's living I believe in I guess. Set the image her family in. But -- happy week for all of them. And it's diskette state. -- -- here at T-Mobile G two. Yes yes eulogy to finally yeah. He got his successor to the G1 and it keeps you here yet -- -- -- yeah I think. Does long that's entity to its defense aegis. -- posted at teaser site for the G -- I today on -- web -- with very little details of -- and the fact that it is man. Agents he -- class Smartphone. Which they're saying is designed to run it -- DB but it's not technically -- Yes but yeah it builds on existing technologies six MBD plus of them were great -- Yeah -- though. But you know they're kind of promising four -- like speeds. Buy it you know there's just the block. In place of -- probably don't even know what it looks lake yeah. It is publicity photos of some like it -- only eight. -- bring yeah and listen -- I hope that this oh yeah we we've seen. Certainly thinking Scott Webster has written a couple post on -- Which between you before. It I think it's also code named a T one blaze spread oh it fits it fits the -- that. Has been memory it has a flight at -- -- key -- Forty keyboard. -- -- it's a -- thicker than the no other. Details and fact that it's -- -- -- -- is it gonna be by HTC again I I would assume look at can be sure. Yeah and very interest me like it looks it looks like it might be -- -- really proven and that he wanted a bad -- never. -- and so yes exciting. And next we have Nokia and an eight means. And dad what -- aesthetic decision -- -- yes it's the first one. Can be running Symbian three which is the you know the revamped version of the -- -- we've gotten a preview of the thanks to -- you know I think it's a huge improvement over the current Symbian devices from an improvement. Aaron you know has a one click interface you know before -- mean been very inconsistent. Far as -- requires one tat for T tapped. That improved multimedia as HDMI output it in just you know they've also enhanced performance. So it's available for pre order now through Nokia's site for. By 49 on mine permit and I think that it'll ship -- and September. Ago. In my case that we've we've -- a preview of the device making it brings a lot of improvements you know -- In the problem with. Nokia is a lot of their services aren't available in the US which I think restricts. A bit at the function now check found -- you know the video store the music -- that take the now. -- -- and it's not as much. App store -- -- yeah yeah I think they said. If you remember you know -- think -- quality over quantity in there air mainly around a thousand and -- only thirst yeah that's another limitation so -- he. Well a bigger issue is just that come Tuesday. A bigger issues is that Nokia is just behind on Smartphones you -- even with Symbian and they just. They're taking so long to do months they're not really giving listening and adjust the just building on on what they've already -- they're not -- Changing anything -- in some ways you know and even if this is one device the Nokia and its like okay great one devised by. Where is -- really domain is -- going to be a Mexican compatible in the apps for it ends and is -- as Nokia. It -- they're gonna bring it to be honest rain. That's right and a huge limitation -- -- of the things Nokia in the US is that most of the phones that are available are all unlocked and easy very prohibitively priced. Any used to people who do buy them active and people who are the kid who's just annual. Right so you and it -- so much truth right new markets new customers that new beast that a lot of the Android market has to be sucking -- you know I have them now. And I mean. Even if you want in a month and -- unlocked phone I think some of the features aren't. Quite up to speed with that and you know Android and other operating systems out there so that's another. If she you know if you're gonna pay that much money -- would you advocate something else with and then more functionalities and that's just me. Moving -- the Samsung has announced that they have -- and finally have a GPS exploited Alex he asks. Cease foods and know what what the problem initially and -- this problems. And play in the Simpson by different and they captivate are for T-Mobile and eighteenth he -- news for for part and the vibrant image is very floated getting TP SX. Yeah and so you know -- users and have been complaining about this thing for about a month now and damned thing just treated last week I think. But they said they're finally testing software to optimize GPS from the US -- he -- and they expect. To have an update available in September. Soul I'm still a couple weeks out from an actual fix. At -- -- -- communicating. But something's coming -- you know. Yeah we've -- yeah it's available and share a lot of people either. I'm happy and you -- absolutely -- this could be coming from the -- Its order -- didn't say anything -- -- you know they follow up with details and download instructions. -- so I'm -- just again. The case it has nothing to do it and it but that it actual. Yes. And -- yes it does all of them. I you know I hate it think it's just the vibrant and gap that captivate -- from when I heard that epic for d.'s okay now what were not seem so yeah -- that I think. If you do have an epic where G acting by default -- teaching thank -- -- yeah is turn off so. Don't think it's not working because it makes your time -- at. I Nextel guests and let the rainy this -- seller has. The I only has another back -- -- -- that they're able to I B 650 in this since one of those the world. Well among those global. That management to have it both -- GSM in this he gave me chipset in as interesting to see this hit yes so it was -- this -- -- small okay. And -- no 3.2 megapixel camera Wi-Fi all of the things that finding in the woman 650 -- -- the sprint and Verizon revisions. It has it's available for a 160. Within -- -- service agreement that they use them. As good influence. And -- so they're also announced. The price and availability fitness and museum -- now there is concern. The design though. It's not happen with -- it bid -- Sanyo this week of course was the concern desire as Leo. But. Now that he has her own sustaining programs they've just change -- missing device but it's basically the same thing it's it's standard phone. -- a below and Edward floating. There's always a need for that. You know not really -- one and one point six. Yeah that is available. Our 21 for -- -- and its web web price and then to 49 without. -- Next of the -- as little bit of -- -- you the Plantronics announced the and 100. This isn't a mid middle middle of the road mid tier -- netbook and tonics -- does have. We do and as crickets -- happening. Doesn't advocate for the news and I noticed that certain -- -- him. At the cricket is have is the one -- museum the so the Plantronics and one -- like you said in a dual microphone. ESP cancellation back on my speed step pretty middle roads and they had sent -- interestingly it does have hits at battery meter on the -- -- the if you have an iPhone. It's senator similar -- talent like an Apple and Apple's own the tickets at and that the president -- -- battery meter on the iPhone. It comes in red color is available for eighty dollars. From ten times as well as best buy and -- -- That's is a very simple news that there and I and I think we have a new exciting news about on the call quality. Information in America. -- -- -- -- -- -- Yes we are doing this in most of our -- from reviews and in our -- -- -- from be reduced for now -- the -- expand later. But what this is where including voice samples. Are the audio quality from your car quality -- -- doing this for taking the phone. There were reviewing we're calling me landline here in offices and -- whether you -- percent discount. Even a voicemail and then taking employs click and putting it in the review it on the audio players you can see for yourself -- -- for yourself against. Whether. You think -- -- quality is -- because we always -- say this in the review Ares I -- a subjective analysis by. You needs. Very difficult for you to actually share that -- -- analysis muster up from this. So this is a good idea hopefully that goal here is two help you make it better decision based on performance -- in a -- of course you cannot. -- always the name of look at the phone and saying. Here's what of the -- looks like make your analysis there and especially in terms of features but this -- -- -- -- We're doing we are also adding more testing. Teacher testing results in -- -- we're gonna do things like. Shutter lag time for the camera -- camera load time we're gonna -- the phone boot time. And all sorts battery testing my audio video hands -- -- -- about battery life for calls of course. So those are gonna -- smoke from reviews and we are going to do. -- -- to expand this program as we go along but. In that is know what you -- and if you have any other suggestions. -- And you can see a sample and -- boring you know fourteen yeah right now yes yeah and we included them and include them. Very cool. Those fifty he -- to call quality policeman's and you really do hear a difference when you listen these two be heat samples back to back. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And yeah it is just keep in mind that. That you know were placing cause. In a certain area and -- pulses -- you know -- quality is going to an untidy and -- Cisco is bad for eighteen team which is that. They -- quality varies by a number of factors. So your experience on the phone. Your ultimate -- mind being a little different so just keep that in mind this is just signed to give you a general idea. Okay. Before we get to reviews there I will read the since when he but -- a small break. And they're back. And so here we so with the first step -- reviews as he and Simpson epic for a it's a third so far something on CS phone those -- the first unity -- Captivate and then the -- by event for T-Mobile is -- -- -- yet so this fifty cents epic Frankie you did you can see this phone right here. It is by far I would see the the used because off the phone because it has to spread out -- -- Is a very full very roomy five broke -- -- I've heard quite yet know if it's super it's super roomy and speeches. Static not actually and like -- that began its yes yes the four in separate and let this latest movie that -- I haven't been very colorful if he here. And I really like analyze the ambient pressure is that the some things such as -- we know in a phase which is. Improve over the old and it is I think -- just -- because coming that protects it process that -- has access -- Simpson's upcoming media pups on beaches that. I'm Bonnie -- -- anything about the media -- -- and now I get it quick kind of preview of it and am you know because it. It's coming down the line -- can -- in the fall but it and looks very cool you know gay. You can kind of among the top there's a little scroll oval. Toolbar that he -- the -- you know the movies and TV shows that are available and that the cool thing is you can start. You can rent or buy. Yes I saw that yes and -- -- -- start downloading you can start watching your have to wait for the full you know episode or movie -- Download when you can just start watching you know and it continues -- don't moan in the background. And. And saying yet if it's interesting cause there's -- -- epic idea that looking at mix it. It's different from the other galaxy -- -- is that he had equity keep it may allow people want quickie like this has but he right. It has an LED flash and cameras the only one that has anti fashion thing yet in the front facing camera are you on to begin -- if you want to he went -- -- thing. And of course he has -- And you know it's similar to east east the HDC evil -- for sprint and that constant. HT CE book twenty. And the phone itself is 250. Dollars. After and you to use -- basic -- and after there. A tunnel I don't really read it -- you PP out of pocket. Before you dependent on it many -- so it's a little bit expensive. Up front and plus you have that ten dollar in an aunt -- and if you want. That's an additional -- thirty dollars a month that so if you want all of that being that this phone offers. Quite a bit a month although no -- says that it's it's cheaper than the other competitors compared to you -- the offered and so what services they offer. You know it's still one of those things to add four -- isn't everywhere yet. One of those things that can't and I don't want to be ten dollars -- something I don't get. So. I don't know what -- you guys think about. Well even about the ten -- specifically yeah for the four I think that's an issue they only understand what on sprints and what they would have -- Is that it's -- -- -- a pretty complicated to some look at some audience that we don't have -- -- -- so therefore -- and you don't have -- And then when you arrive in a certain area you have to get some sort of message that says Iranian either your phone just wouldn't work to foraging. Which then means you'd have to go and get it all set up once he's dead or you get some sort of -- one idea you've that you get some sort of messages yeah courtiers -- -- try to do that that's and that's just that's six habitat a lot of lot of work -- I'm not. I'm not saying that I that I have to right the idea paying ten dollars -- service you can't use but. The I think the the alternative is going to be very. Yeah that's you. -- Rabbani the few units in the same thing you're HTC's movie yeah I mean yeah. I mean -- sorry you know. You know I mentioned you know you would have been nice to kind of -- and Onkar kind of thing but it pay insurance and much more complicated. It's complicated I do my -- and that I -- I just feel like maybe -- it. At that does is some sort of -- system minimum initial what the solution is at I don't know per say but I do think as one of those things are you paying ten dollars for this -- data. But she don't necessarily get in your particular -- just as a consumer -- of that habit of putting. Aniston up which and overall it's a really great violence -- so thick and any other -- yes -- is modest. That is sexiest you by event -- -- mobile. But overall it's really solid very pretty very solid and durable feeling any and I think in the -- what is week. Am I we like especially having iyas physical keys with -- -- on the side that's nice and doesn't mean it's really nice on the side if it's economic heat sensitive keys. -- -- So I'm overall really. -- -- initiative pending and one from -- you can afford that. -- -- -- -- Welcome them and it which is right I don't of the the name of the epic adamant that -- Is it sounds like it sounds -- -- plan. Onyx and -- the -- -- he sees eat the -- -- sent from an assistant elitists. Flagship product here this is. No one of those boys could she'll hit that seeking to say answer to answer a call seeking knocking -- Treaty smart it has. Bloody incident partnered with some developers to develop an Android app for a blue and it -- that they can use the he app dissident Hyun the -- called -- -- And you -- a text to speech that he would read out incoming caller right ETU. It also has some little thing -- if you compare it with this -- an app is called bingo. It also read out incoming text messages to use its its Tivoli meant to be the S ten speed as possible when you're driving on to rent. And I think because sound quality is great article is great -- As being following a mile being -- -- -- services include it into the hits that it is of bizarre because it's gonna make you know movie with. And you let you know like that movie show times in -- in your area. And that's that really advanced wherever it can basically it says -- -- with people and is pretty mean its its retail -- It is weakening 400 payment on its a little bit expensive I think you get it cheaper. I could be a little longer and that he -- it he keep it it's. I looked at the Sony Ericsson experience -- AT&T version this is the updated welts and just slightly revamped its free formatted version of the X ten unlocked which it looked -- -- -- here. Almost the same of course has some -- AT&T specific options and they changed the you know now for a year -- her. Or corporate email. It is does improve on the original experiment marked experience tenants some -- the keyboard now works that virtual keyboard now works across all applications before. It worked at. It did not work the landscape keyboard to -- -- can. Messaging here messaging so he still had a full QWERTY keyboard it just resonant portrait go to the phones are just native -- I was overcrowded it was and is it was a -- and I like a lot that they fix that I did have some on data issues on that original iPhone. They. Pretty -- disappeared here it still isn't as fast as you some of things you might see from. T-Mobile -- parents -- -- you know what Verizon or sprint on their three G but eight it is or passive in -- original -- was glad to see that they fix those. It is a lot cheaper of course the rich -- market ten with 700 dollars in this one is 149 with a two year contract even if you don't. Have a contract is still relatively cheap 314 and so I liked those I think it's a pretty good handset it's powerful has a lot of features as beautiful four inch display. It only -- one point six right. Hands now we are don't quite have a word on when -- we'll get an upgrade. So could -- this by the end of the year mohair that we don't have specific -- and on this 11 came -- was very for senators last December at that time one point six wasn't -- But I mean even know me and the -- come out a little before that with 2.0 so but you would sort of let it slide. This time however we have to speak and to device and -- on one point six. It it just it just looks dated -- and it's a hundred dollars yeah well -- -- -- allotments and so. Not loving that. You know one issue of course have to consider is that Sony Ericsson puts honest landscape NT XP interface and I think those. Are worthy in their own right I they have -- nice design to have some good features time escapist when these things does -- -- combines earlier. Your social media alerts and everything -- I just it's a little overwhelming for me and you're -- worry about these users these -- -- -- -- that they do interfere with. They do interfere with. You're -- updates because they have to sort of redesign the interface for those mentioned jobs. I the use of aware that I really metric span of just letting hundred -- -- -- -- -- -- TC silenced as the best job what. Putting on some of their own thing I think TouchWiz is redundant and went down on the Samsung phones but. I think overall this is a decent it as did several good -- as good a good at and -- Paris on air it's regenerate -- but on that one point six is just don't back. Luckily they do have an. Email option and a third party. -- option that's from -- dial and it it does allow for global contacts access which you don't usually get through totally -- frail. So that's one thing that you know the kind of bridging the gap but. One point -- and another knock them axis -- I mean. Now that's Argus. Can reach -- devices are getting to -- one you're getting fry know. And this devices to its two -- -- -- that we -- years. Wouldn't. Yeah so it's. That had for a -- he had been. A good contender and eight and the next when you look at least he eternity -- you yes this is. -- sequel to the their original turn any way it's was more or less AT and he's version of the original Samsung instinct so. We saw both of those phones two years ago. The attorney to -- are almost the same as the original -- -- -- -- little different Lou it's. -- -- And a cool. Bubble design on the back as a 3-D effect. But it I just think that now and I think I think that if this front come out two years ago would have been fine but now it just looks a little dated. As far as what goes into this one person for being a sequel it doesn't really built on the original phone doesn't really offer a lot of new features -- -- changes its line. And it doesn't. Tax one of those features three megapixel camera phones -- -- two axles. So certainly no reason behind that one's. If design yeah I think it was -- -- -- was saying an -- to view it's like a movie. A sequel should build on an original story rather than repeating it and -- -- -- -- -- it needs to improve on it some way and releasing -- to users so. I can't really citizens. Something elegant yet -- -- messaging and of course gonna look at a flight a couple of days that actually has a physical keyboard. Prodded him of are inclined about it think -- touch screen phone is three inch display for me it's just way too small for -- -- the web browser for. -- on -- keyboard and forgetting which you need him from going through the -- End it. It doesn't -- that the and emergency data quality as well slows -- just looking at -- website even -- even a mobile version of the site and that tiny display much and is this pretty tedious. I would and what's probably its. It's not a patent review I would say it again -- it look at despite -- it'd speaks. And -- to look at the Motorola delayed -- -- He asked. Then. -- successor to enjoy and the and they've made and number of improvements which I think makes and the radio upgrade. Spending crazy nothing revolutionary but enough to make it where the upgrade. First as far as the design they made it a little sleep and you know the original -- wasn't. Very pretty. But they've kind of rounded edges and tapered edges than it that the little -- The screen is that the same which I don't think it back because they think victory screen was very -- and great for viewing text and images. The biggest complaint we had about the during its -- and with the keyboard because it's flat and had that. Weird keypad on the writes I would just made an upgrade to. I signing because the first well isn't that yeah. One that I that I was talking about the -- yet so it now they've gotten rid of the and name and raise the keys a little bit there's a sign -- density easier to press. But I would both say it's not. The easiest keyboard to type on it it's a little and the buttons are a little stiff to press I couldn't really tight -- if I did I came up with a lot -- -- emirates taxes so. You know comparing this today epic forgy -- that authority -- easily keyboard on this thing is it's yet it was and I remember seeing. You know the demo units at times and then -- me. In -- make supports so you know it it's an improvement and for the keyboard imagery to buy it not -- -- -- To keep that in mind. The -- -- is the first Smartphone to be shipping with Internet between two. Out of the box though. You're getting on is -- for -- features including fat there complain whine and I was able to you know watch flash videos from -- America. And play games -- flash games. The video sick little while to load to play it and they played back -- -- with a I'm so that is -- and he. Also gets and -- -- ram and a one gigahertz processors so. You know performances faster I think. And -- the cameras -- fame but picture quality with fine so. And see a big problem of not upgrading its though. At Orion and I can alive. It's available. Now for 19999. Scene and there's going to be special RT DT limited edition one coming out this -- Exclusive steroids contents and it's designed to look like ITT in the it's the delight in the UBS and. But I C -- PO version. And really illiterate. There. Like I think certain personalities -- gravitate toward Warren yeah personalities who gravitate toward the examine. Someone -- The proper guide -- the corner and that's the -- Jason winning a -- you're gonna upgrade already when you're. I -- and I mean you know the keyboard on my jury are the reason right so I probably wouldn't be the ones to upgrade to the -- -- -- -- -- probably -- something more. More fully touch screen. These Italians did you -- or something like the -- -- mean of -- yeah I mean Pakistan brands right now it have to be acts yet. Now -- might just latency because I hear some rumors is always. Hello parents I think he -- -- brings EU today by that happens. Pro did you have -- -- Okay. Medical accident the next time you -- -- the HTC. That was actually -- may have back admirable Hong Kong parents and -- physicist I now want you know the little wary that. You know USA -- picked it up and coming out August 27 from 19999. Arm tactic with -- -- country and -- young man and leaving it in as a little wary of you know it's among the seven months in you know a lot of devices have come out -- -- is -- that it would seem kind needed. -- now but it's actually. A very solid device especially for yet so Leo which hasn't had the best Smartphones collection and in their only other Android phone at the same -- that claim that you looked well and yeah. -- you know the desire. It's it's a great device it's -- much like the Nexus One but it's -- HTC sense which you know we talked about. I think it's the best Android -- cannot there. -- it provides useful widgets without being totally. She's sitting in your faith and it -- just recovery complete -- yet it is actually make it. Enhances the usability -- now him yes. And it's fast and you know. It will be getting an injury 2.2 of the -- this year for the specific update yes so I think you know if you're US carrier customer. Looking for Mac from this is gonna be your best option. It's I just -- at the epic -- sense in this it is infinitely -- -- Other gallon -- on against us. Now. Yeah as a -- that this the -- That review will be with the -- a -- so this anyone in any. This -- email. -- I'm I have. Release -- -- the concern. Since it. Testing hanging you're testing -- forgy hands. As. Upset at hearing in her review we can't -- the forgy for the moment in San Francisco. He won -- -- of road the epic and -- -- -- -- -- Me if so and it's we are going to. You should seeing investors like I'm at the four seasons and. -- say you ninth. Days -- cold you could. I we will do that detail oriented think we'll do that with -- -- is desperate for cute line -- -- now. From. -- I think Tracy's. Quickly -- And Bosnia and if it's an excellent that's great to have them -- And 898 -- mine now expecting it's healing. Then and would prefer neat part yeah Melanie looks with a lot of the Simpson products yet again and it skiing race. My question Lewis from David says when -- tech as a reporters here how about that and we like that. -- I got. Okay. So I -- a couple other a couple of stuff him that -- email us from Ryan from New Jersey. And my mom has been using the seem Verizon Wireless -- or wait too long since -- family plan. I've been -- their habit to get a benefit from -- she didn't want and you won backing from the get a new phone out of my new phone. And what phone do you think -- began as a slim aren't close to cinema series -- it. Gender equality and a camera presumably from -- rises and they either a couple of and it traces -- acting out of the Motorola phones appeasement. An -- you if you can look in any Verizon phones are pretty on the slim side. I can check -- we're talking about some rounds because there are remembering right at the top. But rather wait -- from Yang and page. The reason why -- -- Long. I just -- Way back in 2000 readiness review because -- could not really and this is -- -- But not really getting how big that would because -- -- -- yeah thinking then it's then I mean it was no. There was no knock against me knock against it -- and but I just thought it's then and put that thing was just easy for analytical it was -- -- -- -- LA's. And -- -- those -- and -- you mentioned -- cool visibility hasn't I'm. Everything -- -- and there's several papers that remember correctly. You know there was a crossing them on and one would think wouldn't you know that's a -- -- put it would -- to change if and it doesn't about it tango woods yet but that I've got -- -- Applicants wrong -- but that so I was not at a not a the four sites that are keep looking at one. -- -- So I think just the code could look at their horizons and looks like the -- -- one of those really thin phones that you. I. The algae -- Gonna with the depth analysis its medium and -- scheme and in -- I'm gonna not like I'm honey I'm and it did. Have yet to -- it seems to be. That's probably. Possibly the Nokia twenty sevens are bright shade and -- miles. -- we don't. You know the whole -- about that real and found -- that that's at the sort of signal. Just assailed its information out it came men and it was very popular for awhile. And then everybody try to copy it and everybody -- want. Everybody wanted to have -- been found and then now it's just. I just think peace is -- -- -- right. People want the Smartphone and a camera and -- one year like every other manipulate this is this the world's -- don't know this is the world's thinnest and I got a lot of trouble for -- I got a lot of trouble from some people for salmon from theory. I am -- and I said that during the deputies to press conference to listen. Well it's -- -- smart from a net profit that record problem classroom. And I got a ton of people thought I was in really critical overly critical of Apple and jobs and and being kind of -- -- I listened as well it's true I mean certainly did. They always get that -- -- kind of more is alive and it's like it's always gonna get -- I I you know it was just kind of -- and it really it would be upset about these. And that medicine. -- had -- the -- this email defied this is spoke on my on and it's about how the sink and bright with outlook and yeah it's it was a fairly detailed and saying this is I went through all the options of -- you can do this you can do that and that I -- articles on it on and they. -- on one and it's basically -- -- -- Embedded options you can do to sync you outlook is -- Google account Google account you eat basically need to create a Google account. He could use an Android known but this is one of those things you'd have to do is treated Google is just easy area to get your meal your calendar. And and and it's just that and -- already have yen is just no way around not cheating on Google can't even use an Android it's -- right. And did you adopt the yet -- with -- I think it easier very old originality 2002 U whatever it and -- an editing market issue -- but if they. You -- import export yours did this -- SEC SV file. Cinema complicated to get all the information -- -- I am. -- -- article that it will you know apples and. -- -- -- And that line from -- and he's wondering if it by. -- off contract and -- T mobile's prepaid calling plan. Protects and calls and using and -- he uses the my I think data. So he's -- -- -- -- plug in a prepaid and into the my opinion fair use it. I. Gotten to different answers that -- -- you know the vibrant -- Smartphone plans though. You know you -- -- you -- -- data plan but I have also read the T-Mobile forms that you can use a prepaid calling card. And use you know another you know like -- and -- forgiveness so -- and double checking. That. Sounds like it's possible. If you buy it off contract. -- -- Team rule should be -- PD PC. -- more so than Verizon via -- I think that. I went back to you. Now and next week Jessica will be back and body of the half right I'll begun you -- because tag team tag team -- -- -- next -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Sorry. You want anything in -- and other producers here but it we have to that -- the with with doing so from New York on -- and that -- -- -- now. Yeah yeah. I think it's got -- -- but it's my music encoded. Well that's -- eking that -- showed innocent -- -- the -- go to Doug in dot cnet.com. Asked for all others CNET -- -- to podcast at CNET -- -- -- email us you know isn't it crowded at cnet.com he given comments. Are placed -- number is 1866 or zero TT 68. And that's it -- -- -- that he bank bag yeah.