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>> Hello, everyone. Welcome to CNET's
holiday help desk, our shopping advice
extravaganza. Used to be just a piddly
little one day eight to ten hour
>> That was nothing compared to what we got
>> Oh, no. They know how to make us work
for real and that is with a daily show that
is gonna help you find the best deals.
It's gonna give you shopping advice. We're
taking calls. We're taking e-mails. This
is your Thanksgiving weekend show.
>> I have to confess at this point that we
pretaped it which is why this outfit might
look a little familiar.
>> In fact we -- they've been working us so
hard, we're wearing the same clothes from
two days ago.
>> And we smell terrible.
>> I smell all right. I don't know about
>> Actually, this is pretty exciting for us
because we get black Friday off now for the
first time in years. We actually could go
to brave the crowds in the store.
>> Oh, I want to throw some bows. I want
to push through those lines.
>> I want to get up at three in the morning
and like [inaudible] and the whoo and the
$200-laptop. I'm not doing that.
>> You aren't? Okay.
>> I'm going to the movies.
>> I'll let you know how it goes.
>> Right, don't you think the movies?
>> Not that early in the morning.
>> Anyway, we'll have some major deals, as
usual, including Michael Amkreutz from
Newegg.com. We talked to him last year.
They've got some great electronic skills --
deals. Later on we're gonna talk gaming
>> Always a big deal in the holidays.
>> That's right. With Ricardo Torres who
is GameSpot.com's editor at large. And
then we will, even though we pretaped it,
we took some calls. >> We're always gonna
>> we're always gonna take calls, and we
have e-mails. >> That's right. This is
show number four of twenty-two. We're like
one fifth through. I know. All right,
we're gonna be going from now all the way
to December 23rd and for the past few years
we've done that crazy, 10 to 12 hour
marathon, but you know you get us all the
>> Every day at 1:00 p.m. pacific.
>> 4:00 p.m. eastern time.
>> 11:00 a.m. Hawaiian, I learned.
>> It is 11?
>> Yes, 'cause it's standard time. Anyway,
you know we are off shopping and we're like
eating turkey right now.
>> There's cranberry sauce in my face right
>> As you're watching this. I'm not doing
cranberry sauce this year. It's bold, but
I am doing a caramelized onion and thyme
>> Well, aren't we just foody, foody food?
>> Anyway, we are still giving away prizes
that will entice you to watch our show
every day. We've given away like a TV.
We've given away and Ipod, and now we have
another TV, an LG TV up for grabs. Go to
crave.cnet.com and look for the giveaway
posting. I believe you can enter anytime
between now when you're watching this and
4:00 a.m. pacific time on Monday
November 30th. >> That's right, so just go
to crave.cnet.com. You're gonna have to
probably go through a few posts, but find
the holiday giveaway, it'll be there.
Typically with these TVs, we get like
thousands of entries, so you don't want to
miss out on that. Now let's check out some
hot deals. We told you we have our
in-house chief master Rick Broida. Rick,
what's going on?
>> Chief master, cut, cut faster.
>> Can I get some of this action?
>> Yeah, Ricka, Ricka, now I can't stop
calling you that. Can you tell us about
your cheap deals? No, sweet deals, sweet
deals for the day?
>> Well, I don't have any particular
products lined up for today but I do want
to share one of my all-time favorite
shopping tips and that is you know how when
you're shopping online and you get to that
check out page and you see that little
coupon code box or that promo code box and
you think, gosh, I wish I had a promo code
to stick in there and, you know, save
myself a little extra.
>> Yeah, you know.
>> I know where you're going with this. I
think I do, I think I do.
>> All right, so what you do is you just
stop right there, don't check out yet.
Open up a new tab in your browser and just
do a little searching. Do a little
googling for, you know, if you're at Dell
for instance, search for Dell coupon codes.
If you're at Newegg, search for Newegg
coupon codes and very often, you'll find
yourself taken to a site like RetailMeNot
or CouponCabin or something like that where
they aggregate codes from different sites.
And I'll tell you something, I would say I
would maybe 50% of the time I'm able to
scare up a coupon that gets me 5% off or
free shipping or whatever and it's just
very gratifying to come up with that like
light before you check out. It's like man,
I got a deal.
>> And I gotta yeah, I have to say my
favorite site for that is dealcoupon.com.
>> Yeah, that's a good one.
>> Which just has a huge list of retailers
and they've got this big data base and they
just have kind of ongoing. That is -- I'm
all about that hack [assumed spelling].
I'm so excited that you said that 'cause
I'm always like, who would ever buy
anything without going to get a coupon
>> Yeah, yeah, no it's good.
>> So actually where do you find all these
deals? While you're scouring, where
exactly are you scouring? Do you just get
a bunch of e-mail?
>> You know what? Brian Cooley tried to
get this out of me the other day.
>> I had no idea it was like we're all
trying to find the secret.
>> You know it's like you're not gonna see
Cheapskate's biggest secrets revealed on TV
anytime soon. I'm not giving up that
privileged information, but I will say --
>> Come on. I'm a lot cuter than Brian
Cooley. Come on.
>> So am I.
>> No, very true, but nevertheless you know
it's not hard to find this stuff really.
It's just there are a lot of sites out
there that aggregate deals and let's not
forget our own shopper.com which is a great
>> Oh, definitely.
>> So now that I got the nepotism out of
the way, you know just keep your eyes and
your ears open and shop around. You'll
find good stuff.
>> And what do you think is gonna -- what
do you think? Do you have any predictions
about what are gonna be particularly cheap
>> Particularly cheap this season or we're
talking about tomorrow, black Friday?
>> Well, maybe --
>> Just for this holiday year.
>> Yeah, what are the big sales that -- you
know what are the things that you're seeing
discounted the most, it is TVs, is it
>> You know what? TVs I'm seeing a little
bit of movement like in the 32-inch models
but like the 40s, the 46s, I'm really not
seeing any spectacular deals there.
Blu-ray players, we're finally getting them
under a hundred dollars which is nice to
see. I'm hoping that more people are gonna
start to pick them up now at that price
point. You can get a GPS for as little as
50, 60 bucks, a 3 1/2-inch screen. You can
get a slightly larger screen, closer to the
hundred dollar levels, so you know, stuff
like that is really, really getting
affordable and I think that's where a lot
of people are gonna be looking for the good
>> All right. Don't ever forget to check
Rick's blog cnet.com/cheapskate to keep an
eye on all of those deals and then don't
forget that coupon tip because that is
>> No, do not do that at all. All right,
should we just jump in and take a call
>> Let's do some calls.
>> Okay, here we go. Let's go to a Marco
on line one. Marco, what's up?
>> Hey there.
>> Hey, how's it going?
>> Hey, it's going good. How are you?
>> I'm doing good. How can we help you
>> Hey, so I got my mom a new Ipod nano,
[inaudible] Ipod nano, and I'm looking for
an inline remote that works with
>> Okay, so and inline remote that goes in
between your headphones, correct?
>> Yeah, exactly because she don't want to
use the provided headphone that comes with
>> Got it. Now one of the things that you
can't -- the thing about it is most of
these third-party remotes and one that I
found, they're a little clunkier and the
reason why is because they kind of
integrate FM transmitters or tuners with
the remote. I did a bunch of searching,
you really -- I haven't been able to find a
specific just a mini baby control. So if
you want to least look at this, this one's
from Griffin. It's called the navigate and
it's an inline controller. It works on the
iPhone and the Ipod so obviously the nano
will work. But if you do a big search over
the internet, there's not too many of like
a slim, sleek one just because the market
for it really isn't, you know, a remote
maybe $20 but most people, like you said,
will probably pop in the headphones that
>> That will allow you though to pop in
third-party headphones of all different
varieties if your mom likes that better.
>> Okay, so this one goes through the dock?
>> Yes, that is correct and it's called the
navigate. It's around $39.99 right now.
>> That's a good price.
>> You might even want -- and the thing is
it does -- again the new nano does have FM
radio on it so that's kind of redundant,
but the key is that it is a controller and
you know there you go. So you might want
to wait around black Friday because, you
know, a site like Griffin, they might offer
some deals as well if they're not doing one
right now, so that's something to check
>> Yeah, I hope that helps and good, happy
shopping. All right, let's do one more
call. We have one more call on the line.
We are not taking live calls today because
this a preshaped -- pretaped show but we
were happy that Justin was willing to stick
around and ask his question. Are you
>> I'm here.
>> Hi, what -- so it sounds to me like you
might have the question of the year. A lot
of people asking this. What do you got for
>> Well, I was wondering if there was a big
difference as far as quality of the picture
between a 60-hertz LCD and a 120-hertz LCD
and so on?
>> Yeah, you hear a lot about this and the
trick of it is there -- one of the first
things is that 120 hertz was kind of pushed
a lot. Now you're even seeing TVs that are
240-hertz refresh rates. The thing is that
when you go up to these higher refresh
rates, it introduces less blurring but the
trick is that people's eyes can kind of
interpret or see this differently. The
main thing that you see is lot of times
when you turn on -- go to the higher
refresh rate, it offers this process called
dejuddering and it kind of, what happens is
the video quality ends up looking like
really smooth. It won't look like film
anymore. It will look like video that's
shot from a video camera and sometimes
people like that but sometimes people don't
because you kind of lose that authentic
film feel to the movie. I know I was
watching like Transformers and they were
moving so smoothly it almost looked fake.
It almost looked fake with that.
>> Yeah, people say that the 120-hertz rate
is a little bit -- it can get kind of
surreal and that it's almost like an
uncanny valley thing, like when a robot
looks too real and it gives you the creeps,
that steams to be the general sense about
120 hertz for some people. And again, I
mean it's something where you're -- I think
you're gonna want to go and look at them
side by side, if possible. And obviously
that's gonna be artificial too because
you're gonna see them tuned for, you know,
show floors or if you're just looking for
an LCD like monitor display, it might be a
little harder to check it out. I mean if
it's for a TV, you're gonna notice it if
you watch a lot of sports, and if you watch
a lot of high-def and a lot of blu-ray
aficionados say and blu-ray people say that
they feel like that's where you have to
have it. So is that -- so it kind of
depends on what do you want to do? What
kind of you know --
>> Yeah, I want to use a blu-ray player
>> Like a $99 blu-ray player that might be
available this black Friday season?
>> I got a PS3.
>> Oh, there you go.
>> Oh, you already have it. 'Cause I was
gonna say, you know if you're not -- if you
don't have to spend a lot of money on your
blu-ray player, then I guess you can spend
a little more on the 120-hertz TV.
>> So that's kind of, you know, again, kind
of just check it out with your own eyes and
see what your like and what you prefer or
how you're gonna use it so.
>> Yeah, that seems like the best way to go
and then if you're willing to, if you're
willing to spend the money, you know why
not be future proof?
>> All right, well thanks, guys. I'm a
long time listener of CNET Buzz Out Loud
and nice to talk to ya.
>> Excellent, I'm glad you made it on the
show today. Thank you.
>> Thanks, Justin.
>> Happy shopping. All right, we are going
to go to one e-mail before we take a break
actually and it's sort of a related display
question. Lisa from the Bronx wrote in and
said, My 19-inch monitor just died this
morning so now I'm looking for good advice
on getting a new computer monitor. I edit
video and do graphics so screen real estate
is key, but I'm also a college student so
I'll need something below $200, preferably
$150. If you can help it, I could greatly
appreciate 'cause using my mom's old
monitor is already killing me. Killing me.
>> So what do you got for this person, you
>> Well, it's funny that you should ask
>> Oh, how convenient.
>> I know, how convenient. Really I swear,
we did not plan this but a couple days ago
when we had Rick Broida on the show, he was
doing three huge black Friday deals that
you wouldn't want to miss, and one of them
was, I can even do you better man
19-inches, a 24-inch Syntax [assumed
spelling] LCD monitor with a 1080p display.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> For $159.99 shipped.
>> You know what I call that?
>> You know what I call that?
>> Sweet deal.
>> That is like ridiculous. In fact, I
think Rick said it was almost an all-time
low for a 24-inch monitor. So I'm thinking
if that deal is still available by the time
you hear this, you have got to get it.
That is a $90-savings on that monitor.
Yeah, it's not, you know the number-one
brand, but it's gonna be a nice awesome
1080p monitor. I'm thinking that is
totally the way to go.
>> Okay, so I think we're gonna take a
little break here, but we're gonna be back
with our friend Michael from Newegg when we
come back, right?
>> Okay, cool.
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>> Welcome back, everyone. We are excited
because we have our old friend, Michael
Amkreutz from Newegg.com, VP of product
development at Newegg.com. Welcome back to
the show, Michael. Thanks for joining us.
>> Hey, Michael.
>> Hey, good afternoon, guys. How you
>> Doing good.
>> We're doing well. We are rocking our
holiday help desk marathon.
>> Yeah, we're rocking it out.
>> I think last year we talked to you it
was probably like hour seven, we were
exhausted. We have tons of pep and energy
>> Oh, pep in the step.
>> All right, wonderful. Same here.
Excited to be here.
>> Yeah, and we're excited to get, you
know, your input as always. So, what are
you, you know as usual, what are you
expecting to be the hot sellers this
holiday season? Obviously a very different
climate than it was the last time we
>> Very different climate. We are seeing
some of the similar trends in more popular
categories, and I'll talk a little bit
about those. You know notebook, netbook,
some of the high-definition televisions,
digital cameras, blu-ray, a little bit new
this year. But what's really different is
that, you know, with the struggling economy
it's been really about customer acquisition
so a lot of retailers being super, super
aggressive on pricing. So if you're in the
market, you know, for any of your usual
suspects in [inaudible] electronics, this
is the season to go some crazy shopping.
Some of the key areas that we really see
some new pick up and renewed energy is our
softer category, most of that driven by
Windows 7, a lot of people upgrading their
computers and buying related parts to go
with that. Navigation, this year, a couple
of new models out. All the new generations
from the Garmins and the Tom Toms and
Magellans of this world. A lot of new
functionality, larger screen sizes, pricing
really aggressive. That's really popular
this year. And then the pocket camcorder
area, you know, led by guys like Flip
camera are real exciting stuff especially
for young ones just getting into
photography give you kind of best of blends
between digital still photography as well
as high-definition camcorder.
>> Yeah, and of course we're finally seeing
those cameras start to take high-quality
stills in addition to, you know, used to be
that you'd say, well, just get a digital
camera that can also take video. It's been
a really interesting category to watch. So
Michael, do you also have -- are there any
sale surprises so far? Any sales trends
that you're seeing above and beyond the
specific products that you mentioned? Like
maybe Kindles are going crazy. I guess you
probably don't sell Kindles anyway.
>> Unless we don't know something.
>> Unless there's something you want to
>> Well, I can tell you that eReaders are
definitely one of the hot categories, of
course. Kindle, of course, leads that
pack, very good product but we carry all
the key competitors to that products from
Sony and a variety of other brands that I
think is a category that we didn't really
see emerge last year but it seems to be a
clear migration in consumers' minds that,
you know, you can get a lot of content
online, download it at the flick of a
finger and it gives you instant access of
long flights and things of that nature.
Also we see quite a bit of action in the
home appliance categories. So maybe more
people getting back to basics, you know,
maybe their budgets are strapped. They're
spending more time at home cooking and
entertaining. So things like crock pots
and coffee makers, high-end expresso makers
seem to be doing really well this year for
>> Oh, yeah, the Nespresso.
>> The Nespresso.
>> Yeah, that's a phenomenal product.
>> So now at Newegg right now, are you
seeing -- how are, what do you think about
the whole thing, black Friday versus cyber
Monday? Is there really a difference right
now for you? Are you seeing people
actually shopping even before black Friday
or where do you think the traffic is really
setting right now?
>> Well, you know I'm sure that, you know,
everyone takes notice that every year it
seems that the key promotional periods come
earlier and earlier and earlier. Pretty
soon we'll be doing pre-black Friday right
after 4th of July.
>> Let me know when that happens, okay?
>> There's two trends. One, we definitely
see a migration from a lot of people that
used to classically and traditionally only
shop brick and mortar that are coming
online even if it's just for informational
purposes or price checks, but we are
generating more sales off of that. And
second is that we used to have a real big
spike on just cyber Monday and that seems
to be more spread out so we do very well
starting today actually, we'll release some
of our black Friday deals all the way
through encore Tuesday which is really a
clean up of all the promotional product
after cyber Monday.
>> I just heard something new here.
>> I know there's a new one, encore
>> Oh, my Gosh. >> But speaking of those
black Friday deals, is there anything that
you want to give us a heads up on now?
Obviously we're pretaping the show before
the weekend, so anything that people should
really be on the look out before this
weekend, this black Friday?
>> Well, there's a couple of deals I can
tell you about. In the high definition
television space, we have a 46-inch product
from a tier-one brand at a super aggressive
price of $699. That's LCD-based 120 hertz
frequency scan rate and that includes free
shipping as well.
>> Michael does -- I'm sorry. Go ahead.
>> In addition to that, we have a
$99-blu-ray player, a real phenomenal
product and $189-netbook. There's a number
of products that I think are gonna catch
>> Michael, you didn't mention the name of
the brand of that tier-one product. Are
you able to or is that still under wraps?
Does it rhyme with lamb lung?
>> It's one of the 3 S's.
>> Oh, so it could rhyme with pony, lamb
lung or blanyo.
>> a blanyo?
>> Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. All
right anyway, Michael, thank you very much
for that heads up. We will, of course, be
talking to Michael again and again in the
coming weeks and be giving away $500 Newegg
gift cards in those coming weeks as well.
So thanks so much, Michael. Always great
to have you on.
>> Thanks guys. Likewise, I look forward
to our next call.
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah, great, happy holidays.
>> All right, now we also want to talk
about some of the deals, shopper.com does a
lot of leg work for us and pointed out
three deals that will be available on
Thanksgiving day, I believe.
>> Yeah, from Thanksgiving day through the
weekend. So it's not one of those things
where you've gotta, you know, be right
there. You don't have to be at the web
site at 4:00 a.m. You got the whole
weekend and this is good stuff. So let's
see, we've got a Samsung, a blamblung LED
46-inch. Now okay, these Samsung LED
>> Oh, they're great.
>> They're excellent.
>> They're so beautiful. This is one is a
46-inch 1080p LCD HD TV, $900 off. I know
you got excited because you were like $900,
that's not how much it costs. But it costs
$1,599. That is ludicrous. How do you
save $900 on a TV? I think, you know, I
don't need one, but I think I need one.
>> Okay, then you should go get that deal.
>> Isn't it great?
>> Yeah. Awesome. Also we have -- you'll
be finding a lot of game console deals. So
here we go the Microsoft Xbox 360 elite
package regularly $299. There's gonna be a
$30-savings there. Obviously you have the
great online community with Xbox Live.
You'll see a lot of different varieties of
Xbox deals but this is one that we have
from shopper.com so $30 off on that day.
>> Not bad. And then also another 46-inch
TV LCD 1080p LCD TV, Sony Bravia. It's
regularly placed at $1,599. It's gonna be
$989, $610 off.
>> Yeah, so we're seeing a lot of discounts
on the TVs.
>> The TVs, I mean that's pretty crazy.
>> That's more than last -- I mean that
seems more aggressive than it even was last
>> That's like tanking.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Isn't it? I mean that's just crazy.
>> All right, we are going to now though
we're gonna talk about games as long as
you're get a fancy new TV and a new Xbox.
>> You need that, right?
>> You need the best advice you can get and
that is coming from Ricardo Torres of
>> They're at large at GameStop --
GameSpot, I'm sorry. I slipped.
>> Oh, snap.
>> That must happen a lot. Does that
happen a lot?
>> Yeah, it's also editor in chief.
>> Oh. The body is over in the corner
right now going like that's my fault.
>> Okay, to be honest, I thought it was
editor in chief, but when I saw the paper
that said editor at large.
>> Yeah. Well, here at CNET editor at
large is where all the power really is.
No, I'm kidding. Anyway, editor in chief,
so even more important. Ricardo, what are
your top recommendations for games you that
you need to play on your new 46-inch
>> There is well --
>> Depends on what you're looking for,
>> Yeah. I mean the bummer of it is the
Wii probably isn't like your big showcase
for that because it only does [inaudible].
They got some good games, you know. They
got [inaudible] for Mario Bros, which is
really cool. And they have Wii Fit Plus so
you can kind of pretend to stay in shape
over the holidays.
>> I saw, I did see a study recently, they
said that they think maybe the Wii Fit
could be real exercise. I didn't buy a
word of it, but that's what they said.
>> Actually EA's got one called EA Sports
Active, that's totally got bands. Like it
feels more official.
>> Like it's actually a semi-legit workout.
>> You will sweat.
>> And it's not like totally mean to you
like the Wii.
>> No, but they're still, they're not
>> Now, Ricardo, there's obviously a
difference kind of between the hard-core
gamer and like the family-geared gamer.
Maybe for our listeners you can kind of
break up some of the titles for both of
those groups. You mentioned Mario Bros
which is a great family game and the Wii
Fit for your mom, you know, that wants to
get all tone and everything.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> I will warn you though, new Mario Bros,
the big thing about it is it's co-op.
>> It's totally possible to grief each
other through the whole game, like throw
each other off cliffs, on accident,
sometimes, on purpose on others.
>> So he's the on-accident guy. He's the
>> Oh, yeah.
>> This is destroying families, I just want
>> Okay, all right, so we're destroying
families, which is awesome. Could we get
them back together with Zelda?
>> You could, kind of. It's a
single-player game so they'll just leave
somebody alone off in a corner.
>> Yeah. Once they're off pouting.
>> It's gonna be for the DS it's coming out
early December so there's still time to get
under the Christmas tree. But some other
really good uniters for the family are the
music games so you know we've got Beatles
Rock Band. You've got Guitar Hero. You've
got Lego Rock Band which is --
>> I heard about that.
>> Which is Rock Band plus legos which is
kind of cool.
>> How could you, you know I mean I don't
know who thought of that but it seems so
right, so wrong that it's right.
>> I mean a crazier one is buzz for the
Playstation 3. It's like it's a quiz game
and the funny thing about it is you can
actually go online and create your own
quizes and upload them into the game.
>> Yeah, that's killer. That's a really
fun -- it has a really big community aspect
>> And if you're kind of an overachieving
mom, you can actually do quizzes based on
homework like certain members of my family
have done for their kids.
>> Wow. That sounds so fun.
>> Which is a horrible thing to just pop up
in the middle of like a quiz, but you can
do it. So those are great for the family.
>> Okay so say you're not into quizzes and
other things, what are some games to avoid?
Do you have any like do not buys?
>> Oh, man, this is gonna be rough.
>> I know but, you know, we always --
>> You gotta keep it real, right?
>> We gotta keep it real.
>> Editor in chief doesn't shy away from
this kind of stuff. >> I'm sorry but
Beatles Rock Band is too expensive. Like
>> Well, the thing is that's one of the
neat things about this season is you have
your Rock Band hardware so there's a lot of
stuff that people are doing this season to
kind of extend the life of what they've
got. So if you've got Rock Band, you just
get the disk so it's not that bad.
>> Okay, good point.
>> So that's my justification.
>> All right.
>> But the stuff to avoid. You know
there's this thing called Tony hawk Ride
which is maybe not so awesome because it
costs $129, right? Now the thing is
Activision went crazy this fall 'cause they
have a bunch of games that have
peripherals. They have DJ Hero, it's got
the turntable. They've got you know Guitar
Hero, it's got --
>> 'Cause they were like that's where the
>> Tony Hawk and it's got a skateboard.
Now see the thing is a lot of people --
>> Go outside.
>> A lot of people like to play games
because they can't do this in real life,
and you actually have to kind of hop around
on this thing and you have to bend and
stretch and do all this weird stuff and
it's not super responsive in a lot of ways.
So when -- it requires you to do very
precise movements and it doesn't always
register them. So you're gonna pay $120 to
have a game that's not so awesome and you
have a peripheral that you can't use with
anything else. Like I can completely
justify like a Guitar Hero game because you
have a guitar, it does other stuff.
>> You have a board.
>> So Ricardo, do you remember the rating
you guys actually gave, the game score you
guys gave it?
>> I believe we gave it a 3.5.
>> Oh, no.
>> Ooh. Ow.
>> That's on a scale of ten.
>> And then I have a crazy thing to avoid
and this is more for the folks at home like
this is nuts but I'm not sure how closely
you guys follow games. You all know about
the Nintendo DSi, big deal, right?
>> Yeah, of course.
>> So Nintendo typically does the horrible
surprise to consumers at the beginning of
the year with like hey, you want a new
model of the thing you just bought? But
this year they actually announce a new DSi
for early next year.
>> It's bigger.
>> The larger screen one.
>> Oh, I did hear about that one.
>> So it just came out in Japan. It's got
a bigger screen. It's called the DSLL
because apparently it's got a huge like
senior fan base in Japan and tiny screen
they have some issues, so they're bringing
it out here so.
>> And you know your kid knows about that
so if you try to get away with putting the
DSi under the tree they're gone be like,
>> They have some bundles, right, they
have -- to entice you they have like new
bundles. I think it's like a white and a
blue one with like preloaded games so it's
kind of a value but like bigger screen.
>> Yeah. >> It's a bigger, bulkier
product. I mean there's a lot of great
black Friday deals where you can get start
getting DSis with a bundles game for around
155 bucks instead of this bigger model.
The screen isn't -- and it's not like the
graphics are improved. It's just a bigger
>> Yeah, the bigger screen which is kind of
better for some of the games, but still.
Try and explain that to your kids. Like if
this was an adult gift, you're fine.
>> Because you know how they are. They're
like 13 and they're just like you're the
worst parent ever.
>> Just off the top of your head, any few
quick like action games, hard-core action
games that people might want to check out?
>> That people such as Brian Tong might
want to check out.
>> Well, I mean I love games.
>> Well, I call the commercial for Call of
Duty Modern Warfare 2 actually the other
day and it was like the most anticipated
game in the history of mankind pretty much.
It's the most awesome ever. I was like
>> It made a billion dollars in like two
>> Yeah, biggest entertainment opening
weekend. Entertainment like across movies,
>> That's just nuts. I mean that's a good
one. I like Assassin's Creed 2, Uncharted
>> Yeah, there's some great stuff out
>> But one of the really cool ones that
will appeal even to hard-core gamers,
Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time.
>> That's a PS3 game.
>> You don't find platformers like that
anymore. Nintendo is usually the only one
that makes them but this is like super fun.
>> Yeah, and everybody can play it.
>> Is that PS3 slim, is one of our
recommendations now for this year now that
it's finally cheaper.
>> It was on my wish list even though I
have a PS3.
>> Like and the only tip I'll give people
about the slim is make sure you buy the
right one because they did slip out the 250
there that's $399.
>> Right, totally.
>> And I was at a store and somebody
actually picked up the gray box. Don't get
the gray box. You want the white box
because it's 120 gigs.
>> And don't mistaken it for a George
Foreman grill. It looks like a George
Foreman grill, but it's all right.
>> How about PC games actually because I
just, okay, so I just got a new like
ridiculously tricked-out desktop
replacement laptop and then I was like, I
feel like I'm only using 5% of its capacity
like it's a human brain. Maybe I should
start playing -- I won't play Wow 'cause I
lost my brother to Wow. But I hear that
that dragon one is pretty cool.
>> Dragon Age.
>> Dragon Age.
>> Yeah, it's probably the best on the PC
'cause it's out on everything, but you
know, the developer like primarily started
their work on the PC so it looks amazing.
It's really cool.
>> I have the whole, the HD 15, I'm ready.
>> There's a long list there so you know if
you forgot what he said --
>> I'm gonna become a drumroll player, here
>> Yeah, if you forgot what he said, you
can come by my office. I'll help you out.
>> Okay, thanks. I appreciate that.
>> All right, that's --
>> Thanks Ricardo.
>> Thank you very much. Editor in chief at
>> He's the big cheese.
>> The big cheese, exactly. We're just
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